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I'm thinking you may need to readjust this for 7 players
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one more come on!
one more come on!
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I'm bored
I'm bored
omg Tanz yes
giffy pls
Topic Starter
I was gonna get to this last night but stuff happened so
role PMs are going out. Confirm in thread.
role PMs are going out. Confirm in thread.
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k den
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Confirm. Finals coming soon but I'll try to keep up in my free time.
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Topic Starter
So I see that everyone confirmed.
Let the game begin.
Let the game begin.
Alright let's get this started.
pokes and votes CalignoBot
pokes and votes CalignoBot
I want to get this out there before shit happens, because I see this as a very real possibility:
YOLOshooting is awful. Don't ever ever do it.
YOLOshooting is awful. Don't ever ever do it.
Vote: Gumica
Because wai not.
Because wai not.
Hold on, we don't have a lynch right? Since its nightless and all the stuff...
It's nightless but if you didn't sumbit any actions at night, it will count as no action huehuehuehue
we do have a lynch and votes in case that after all shots are fired people are still standing.
Vote: Sakura
Vote: Sakura
i also think someone should shoot as soon as everyone has posted. else we will jsut sit here awkwardly without doing jackshit.
also before anyone shoots, self vigis should claim to reduce the targetpool.
This is YOLOshooting, and therefore bad.Tanzklaue wrote:
i also think someone should shoot as soon as everyone has posted. else we will jsut sit here awkwardly without doing jackshit.
Except... self-vigs dont know they are self-vigsTanzklaue wrote:
also before anyone shoots, self vigis should claim to reduce the targetpool.
so we have literally nothing to go by except trying to guess our way out?Sakura wrote:
Except... self-vigs dont know they are self-vigsTanzklaue wrote:
also before anyone shoots, self vigis should claim to reduce the targetpool.
well that seems like fun.
i still stand by my word though that the first shot should be fired rather sooner than later. else all we do is RVS-ing and then everyone will goof off until someone shoots.
I suppose the game won't move until someone shoots. I am not suggesting YOLOshooting but... its kinda what will happen.
The game is funny, after all, even if we "catch" a very likely scum and someone has to shoot them, maybe the shooter would end up killing themselves.
Also why are you guys voting? I still don't get it, the lynch only happens if everyone uses up their shot and the game hasn't ended.
The game is funny, after all, even if we "catch" a very likely scum and someone has to shoot them, maybe the shooter would end up killing themselves.
Also why are you guys voting? I still don't get it, the lynch only happens if everyone uses up their shot and the game hasn't ended.
Topic Starter
Because I feel like I need to clarify this:
Lynch mechanic is present but just without the deadline until the specific condition meets. Also, the votes reset upon successful shooting.
Lynch mechanic is present but just without the deadline until the specific condition meets. Also, the votes reset upon successful shooting.
before i go to bed, i'll propose that we vote on who we shoot in the official vote and vote foor the shootee in an official vote, for the most efficient gain of information.
I think you're half asleep when typing now.Tanzklaue wrote:
we vote on who we shoot in the official vote and vote foor the shootee in an official vote
It is extremely bad just on the setup alone. Just planning shots is infinitely better in the long run, but even better than that is planning on who shoots who only after we decide on which two to put on the block.Zexion wrote:
I suppose the game won't move until someone shoots. I am not suggesting YOLOshooting but... its kinda what will happen.
@Mod: Do people flip their correct role or will they always show up as Dayvigs?
I propose we all submit two names and the top two listed will be the shooter and shootee. We'll decide after the two are chosen.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
No strong reads atm.
67% chance of not getting a self vig shooter
78% chance of getting a town shooter
56% chance of getting a not self vig town shooter
56% is kinda ugh
Going to sleep now so percentages might not be accurate
67% chance of not getting a self vig shooter
78% chance of getting a town shooter
56% chance of getting a not self vig town shooter
56% is kinda ugh
Going to sleep now so percentages might not be accurate
Hi
The point is scum can vote for the same town so there's a bigger chance for two town (or one) to be chosen.CalignoBot wrote:
I propose we all submit two names and the top two listed will be the shooter and shootee. We'll decide after the two are chosen.
Thoughts?
Olanning the shots might give you some basic information on whos a daywig and who is a selfwig, butbthis plan can backfire badly if we pick the wrong players.
The first pass is almost never going to turn out good for town, but it's more likely to work out than if we just TROLOLOL shoot because we could force the mafia self-vig to shoot.Chamelo_Th wrote:
HiThe point is scum can vote for the same town so there's a bigger chance for two town (or one) to be chosen.CalignoBot wrote:
I propose we all submit two names and the top two listed will be the shooter and shootee. We'll decide after the two are chosen.
Thoughts?
This plan inherently makes getting chosen a huge risk for the mafia, so they're going to want to edge out of it as best they can. It's better this way rather than choosing who's shooting who right away because the case where the mafia vig is asked to shoot someone results in absolutely no pressure (outside of shooting his partner, but eh).
I don't see how it's any different than how wagons work fundamentally.
I don't see how it's any different than how wagons work fundamentally.
sorry, being both tired and sick = nonsense writing.Sakura wrote:
I think you're half asleep when typing now.Tanzklaue wrote:
we vote on who we shoot in the official vote and vote foor the shootee in an official vote
the gist of the post is that we vote on a guy we shoot and the guy who will do the shooting. basically what CB said. it's the msot sensible way of doing things in this game.
Topic Starter
Flip will include correct information.
Well, lurking like this is even worse than CB's plan, so I guess we should go with it then.
3 posts in since my post 27 hours ago.
almost 48 hours into the game and just half the players even bothered to show up and say hi.
yea i have better things to do than waiting for lurkers to never talk.
repalcing out.
almost 48 hours into the game and just half the players even bothered to show up and say hi.
yea i have better things to do than waiting for lurkers to never talk.
repalcing out.
I guess we should go for CB's plans for the game to move forward. I don't really have any better ideas
Currently not liking neither Tanz nor CBot tbh.
I've learned to be wary of people trying to control town like I did back in Madoka.
Also i did say i was going to be permanently V/LA u.u
I've learned to be wary of people trying to control town like I did back in Madoka.
Also i did say i was going to be permanently V/LA u.u
So i should probably spice this game up a bit
sakura I know what you're going to do don't do it
Sakura if I was trying to control town, wouldn't I be trying to brute force it through instead of asking for discussion first?
Too late
The game is somewhat depressing.
How about YOLOShooting to create some fun? :')
Topic Starter
CalignoBot, Town 1-shot Day Vigilante, was shot.
Grace period lasts until 24 hours from this post.
Grace period lasts until 24 hours from this post.
1/3 chance of being a self vig now
we need to force people to shoot. Making people voluntarily yoloshoot wont do us any good.
we need to force people to shoot. Making people voluntarily yoloshoot wont do us any good.
also fuck I feel like we need to kill sakura
Well I already used my shot anyway so i'm like a VT now.
okay i actually meant that replacing out thingie but apparently nobody took it seriously so fuck it.
i don't know if scum sakura would be retarded enough to think this was a ood idea, but the thought of town sakura being this downright stupid makes me think that this is a very yolo scum play.
has anyone here any objections with me shooting sakura?
this also might be a bait from a self-dayvig scum sakura to kill her in order to protect her teammate, though that would be a disaster to happen. overall i'm just very confused because shooting cb like that (or anyone really) is so very sakura unlike and so very, very stupid.
i don't know if scum sakura would be retarded enough to think this was a ood idea, but the thought of town sakura being this downright stupid makes me think that this is a very yolo scum play.
has anyone here any objections with me shooting sakura?
this also might be a bait from a self-dayvig scum sakura to kill her in order to protect her teammate, though that would be a disaster to happen. overall i'm just very confused because shooting cb like that (or anyone really) is so very sakura unlike and so very, very stupid.
we can't leave the lose end though. THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD HAVE VOTED ON SHOOTER AND SHOOTEE SO PEOPLE WE THINK ARE TOWNUSE THEIR SHOTS UP AND WE DON'T END UP JUST VIGGING THE GUY WHO SHOT LAST THE ENTIRE GAME UNTIL SCUM WINS.
the point here is? that you want mercy?Sakura wrote:
Well I already used my shot anyway so i'm like a VT now.
Sakura literally why. Your suspicion on CB was pretty much nothing... you didn't even let CB reply... (the Too Late! probably meant she already submited the shot)... also I hate stuff based on other games!
Well anyways I didn't expect YOLOShooting even if I said it. The fact she shot CB makes me think she just wanted to shut up a strong town player so yeah, sounds like scum.
Well anyways I didn't expect YOLOShooting even if I said it. The fact she shot CB makes me think she just wanted to shut up a strong town player so yeah, sounds like scum.
the only things i can hold up as positive for sakura is that she admitted to the shot.
still, we can't possibly let her live, because what if she is scum bunking on a safe pass?
and then, in case that sakura isn't scum, we have to shoot the guy who shot sakura because fuck he might have abused that massive fuck up.
you initiated a spiral of doom for whatever side you're on sakura. you basically eliminated almsot any chance of this game being solved in a logical manner.
still, we can't possibly let her live, because what if she is scum bunking on a safe pass?
and then, in case that sakura isn't scum, we have to shoot the guy who shot sakura because fuck he might have abused that massive fuck up.
you initiated a spiral of doom for whatever side you're on sakura. you basically eliminated almsot any chance of this game being solved in a logical manner.
zexion sounding like scum to me. thoughts on that?
explanation for my suspicion is that he first cautiously says that we should yoloshoot, then condemns the yoloshooter for doing so. opportunism at its best.
Vote: Sakura
Vote: Tanzklaue
bold is for the person that gets shot, cursive for the person that shoots.
explanation for my suspicion is that he first cautiously says that we should yoloshoot, then condemns the yoloshooter for doing so. opportunism at its best.
Vote: Sakura
Vote: Tanzklaue
bold is for the person that gets shot, cursive for the person that shoots.
But even if she was scum, she lost her shot so she isn't really much of a threat... unless of course, all our not self-shooters area dead and... yeah we could really fuck up. I still don't get Sakura's logic of shooting CB...
CB flipping normal vig is really bad. We could end up shooting ourselves the worst moment.
CB flipping normal vig is really bad. We could end up shooting ourselves the worst moment.
this post reeks.Zexion wrote:
But even if she was scum, she lost her shot so she isn't really much of a threat... unless of course, all our not self-shooters area dead and... yeah we could really fuck up. I still don't get Sakura's logic of shooting CB...
CB flipping normal vig is really bad. We could end up shooting ourselves the worst moment.
whether or not she can still shoot is something not relevant to her alignment. we can't risk having scum live and manipulate town.
"Hey guys! Don't kill my partner!"Tanzklaue wrote:
this post reeks.Zexion wrote:
But even if she was scum, she lost her shot so she isn't really much of a threat... unless of course, all our not self-shooters area dead and... yeah we could really fuck up. I still don't get Sakura's logic of shooting CB...
CB flipping normal vig is really bad. We could end up shooting ourselves the worst moment.
whether or not she can still shoot is something not relevant to her alignment. we can't risk having scum live and manipulate town.
You can't be serious. I obviously said that because in this game killing can literally backfire to you, in any normal game I would have pushed a lynch right away.
No it means i was wrong, and so im pretty ok with dying.Tanzklaue wrote:
the point here is? that you want mercy?Sakura wrote:
Well I already used my shot anyway so i'm like a VT now.
Since im quite useless now.
I'm pretty fine with Tanz shooting me since i was wrong about CB guess im probably wrong about Tanz too
So i'm thinking that maybe Gumpyy or Zexion... who else was in this game?
So i'm thinking that maybe Gumpyy or Zexion... who else was in this game?
on that note Nyquill's probably town too.
Ah well those are my current reads
(Town > Scum) Tanz > Nyquill >>> people > Gumpyy > Zexion
Now that i got that out of the way, feel free to kill me whenever.
Ah well those are my current reads
(Town > Scum) Tanz > Nyquill >>> people > Gumpyy > Zexion
Now that i got that out of the way, feel free to kill me whenever.
Also for those wondering why i shot CB, it was a gut read, but no one was doing anything and it didn't seem like anyone wanted to do anything so at least you should be thanking me for bringing this town out of apathy.
I am unable to thank such a rash decision, considering how little CB posted to make that assumption.
Besides, why I am scum again? Just by pointing out a possibility?
Besides, why I am scum again? Just by pointing out a possibility?
Because this post sounds like you already know i'm town.Zexion wrote:
But even if she was scum, she lost her shot so she isn't really much of a threat... unless of course, all our not self-shooters area dead and... yeah we could really fuck up. I still don't get Sakura's logic of shooting CB...
CB flipping normal vig is really bad. We could end up shooting ourselves the worst moment.
No, I would suspect you to be town rather than a scum, simply because you'd have nothing to gain by shooting this early. If you really are scum and did this, then that was a retarded move altogether (because you'd be forced into random townshooting, hoping you wouldn't get shot). However, if you were playing your cards in a way to gain sympathy of players, like you're getting it from me right now, then it was a gamble. it works with me tho, ayy 
So we're left of with (assuming Sakura's town) 3 townvigs?
So we're left of with (assuming Sakura's town) 3 townvigs?
Are you srs? i do the most stupid thing i've done in mafia and people townread me for it?
Is that so? If you're mafia... what did you gain by shooting CB then?
it's osu mafia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Sakura wrote:
Are you srs? i do the most stupid thing i've done in mafia and people townread me for it?
@Sakura: where does the gumpy read hail from? he hasn't said jack shit until now.
She gains:Gumica wrote:
Is that so? If you're mafia... what did you gain by shooting CB then?
-A potential feepass ("Sakura can't possibly be this stupid!")
-A confused town
-The attention being completely drawn from the second scum
-Manipulation on further reads (everything she says now could be invalidated imediately if she flips scum and we had to rethink everything)
there are reasons for such behaviour. I do agree though that it is very Sakura-unlike to be quite this sloppy in execution and gameplan, since she likes perfect wins and there are a dozen more fun ways to fuck over town in this one that yoloshooting and admitting to it.
i also came to the conclusion that letting the most town-read person shoot sakura is quite silly.
so
Vote: Zexion
i feel like letting the most scummy palyer shoot makes way more sense, so the lose end isn't a guy that people actually think is town.
objections?
so
Vote: Zexion
i feel like letting the most scummy palyer shoot makes way more sense, so the lose end isn't a guy that people actually think is town.
objections?
also
@mod: does maf know who the town selfshot vigs are?
@mod: does maf know who the town selfshot vigs are?
Lol, I already posted about how trying to kill someone can backfire, that's why we can't inmmediatly get rid of obvscums.Sakura wrote:
Because this post sounds like you already know i'm town.Zexion wrote:
But even if she was scum, she lost her shot so she isn't really much of a threat... unless of course, all our not self-shooters area dead and... yeah we could really fuck up. I still don't get Sakura's logic of shooting CB...
CB flipping normal vig is really bad. We could end up shooting ourselves the worst moment.
I have no problems with shooting Sakura if that's what you want, also I do not think Mafia knows who the self vigs are.
Where is Gumpy anyway
That's exactly why.Tanzklaue wrote:
@Sakura: where does the gumpy read hail from? he hasn't said jack shit until now.
@mod: prod gumpy pls
So you would've rather me have shooted without saying that I would shoot?
That might be an issue if people don't have this forum open permanently because... wellTanzklaue wrote:
@mod: prod gumpy pls
There seem to be some permission issues.
Topic Starter
No.Tanzklaue wrote:
also
@mod: does maf know who the town selfshot vigs are?
Already have.Tanzklaue wrote:
@mod: prod gumpy pls
And then people fall into inactivity again anyway :U
i never said that, nor did anyone else. all i said is that it's the only redeeming factor for what you did.Sakura wrote:
So you would've rather me have shooted without saying that I would shoot?
>The only
Well I got some reads from what I did, but if you're happy shooting me for killing CBot then i won't mind, even if it's scum shooting me since they know i'm town >.>
I was probably right that I shouldn't have joined this after all.
Well I got some reads from what I did, but if you're happy shooting me for killing CBot then i won't mind, even if it's scum shooting me since they know i'm town >.>
I was probably right that I shouldn't have joined this after all.
and people forgot me, again.
Well, I was going to say "How about we let Sakura alive?" but oh, the redirect.
I'd choose Navizel bc his post style or Zexion bc why did you convince Tanz to shoot Sakura when he was aiming at you?
Well, I was going to say "How about we let Sakura alive?" but oh, the redirect.
I'd choose Navizel bc his post style or Zexion bc why did you convince Tanz to shoot Sakura when he was aiming at you?
Zexion wrote:
also I do not think Mafia knows who the self vigs are.
GuyInFreezer, in setup specific wrote:
* Mafia will know whether their shots will backfire or not, but town won't.
The reason I want to keep Sakura alive is that she is practically "useless" now. no offense, tho.
If all the shot happened and there's scum left we can lynch her later.
If all the shot happened and there's scum left we can lynch her later.
But if i were scum it'd be the town's job to kill me regardless of me being useless or not, idc either way, seems like me not being able to focus on mafia has really cramped my style anyway, besides people not wanting to do anything i yolo shot to spice things up, and now people want me dead, and we'll end up with 2 dead towns.
ugh can't be bothred anymore sorry for the inconvenience
Not everyone is inclined to shoot you. Like CTh said, you're useless now.
sakura is the only person we can shoot with still having hope of winning this.
sakura is useless, and that's the main reason that she is the one who should be shot, preferably by who you lot think is the most scummy player in the game currently. that way we either:
a) only kill one townie, then proceed to let the next highest scumread shoot the guy who shot sakura
b) kill a scum sakura, have a confirmed town in the gy who shot sakura, two vigs still up and running and can coordinate further in order to not let these two vigs shoot out the other.
c) scum panics and random shoots one of us, leaving sakura as conf town since she can neither be the shooting scum nor be the suicide scum
this way, we hold open all options. we can't risk losing 2 vigs again today; it would be synonymus with losing the game. that's why sakura is the prime target for the next shot, regardless of whether you believe her to be a dumb town or a dumb scum.
sakura is useless, and that's the main reason that she is the one who should be shot, preferably by who you lot think is the most scummy player in the game currently. that way we either:
a) only kill one townie, then proceed to let the next highest scumread shoot the guy who shot sakura
b) kill a scum sakura, have a confirmed town in the gy who shot sakura, two vigs still up and running and can coordinate further in order to not let these two vigs shoot out the other.
c) scum panics and random shoots one of us, leaving sakura as conf town since she can neither be the shooting scum nor be the suicide scum
this way, we hold open all options. we can't risk losing 2 vigs again today; it would be synonymus with losing the game. that's why sakura is the prime target for the next shot, regardless of whether you believe her to be a dumb town or a dumb scum.