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yoshilove
support~ <3
Although it is very old,
There was such a thing.
There was a game to Danmaku the BMS. *Danmaku(Cartridge? Curtain of fire?)
※not Touhou, this is another game.
There is a place that is similar.
(but JP lung)
(An animation was not found in Youtube. )
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm130707
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~VG5M-OBT/otama.html
Although it is very old,
There was such a thing.
There was a game to Danmaku the BMS. *Danmaku(Cartridge? Curtain of fire?)
※not Touhou, this is another game.
There is a place that is similar.
(but JP lung)
(An animation was not found in Youtube. )
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm130707
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~VG5M-OBT/otama.html
I ain't ladyStarz0r wrote:
A better idea on how Touhosu! could work is this:
And no, you don't sound like a man who has ordered a pizza.
/me runs
I really think that the "Starz0r" example is a good idea 
.
But , well ... i think it should be fun if the player press a key to shoot the enemies in rhythm .
For example, the enemy always throw bullet in all the map according to the beatmap ; and the player do the same but only on a vertical line , but, few time the player must press a key to make a powerfull attack (indicated by something like ... color change)
I hope that you understand what I mean
( also , i don't read all pages of the topic, so ... tell me if something better is proposed )
.But , well ... i think it should be fun if the player press a key to shoot the enemies in rhythm .
For example, the enemy always throw bullet in all the map according to the beatmap ; and the player do the same but only on a vertical line , but, few time the player must press a key to make a powerfull attack (indicated by something like ... color change)
I hope that you understand what I mean
( also , i don't read all pages of the topic, so ... tell me if something better is proposed )
looks like peppy is slowly working on this
i really like to support this idea, actually i approve it, but i can't find my stars or votes. i should have at least 2
You get 2 stars when you buy supporter i hate that moda >.> everyone should have the ability to vote...battler077 wrote:
i really like to support this idea, actually i approve it, but i can't find my stars or votes. i should have at least 2
somebody told me that when somebody gives you supporter, the gifter get the votes, not the receiver. that could be the reason
Beat hazard is a pretty fun game. A rhythm bullet hell. I'd love to see it working over here, but how would a ranking system work for that?
Supporting it
Supporting it
Perhaps something like graze points in touhou? Another idea could be to subtract points each time the player's been hit.Heinzen wrote:
Beat hazard is a pretty fun game. A rhythm bullet hell. I'd love to see it working over here, but how would a ranking system work for that?
Supporting it
based on that Touhosu! should be amazingly impossible(difficult)Taadashi wrote:
Perhaps something like graze points in touhou? Another idea could be to subtract points each time the player's been hit.
Well I do expect it to be somewhere close to touhou ranging from beginner to lunatic. Also I expect it to use mods such as hidden or fl to boost the score.battler077 wrote:
based on that Touhosu! should be amazingly impossible(difficult)Taadashi wrote:
Perhaps something like graze points in touhou? Another idea could be to subtract points each time the player's been hit.
People that are supporting the game have the right to vote what happens. It only makes sense, right?marcostudios wrote:
You get 2 stars when you buy supporter i hate that moda >.> everyone should have the ability to vote...
What's your source for that? I can't remember seeing any indication of a dev actually working on this.marcostudios wrote:
looks like peppy is slowly working on this
there is a thread in GD with a video that may depict a bit of Touhosu!. i didnt see it yet because... 1 hr.. nextLuna wrote:
What's your source for that? I can't remember seeing any indication of a dev actually working on this.
battler077 wrote:
there is a thread in GD with a video that may depict a bit of Touhosu!. i didnt see it yet because... 1 hr.. nextLuna wrote:
What's your source for that? I can't remember seeing any indication of a dev actually working on this.
Fastforward to 43:30. Peppy mentioned about "the touhou mode" around 43:58.
EDIT: I should really preview before posting orz
He's not working on it at the moment. What he said just tells us that it's only in proof-of-concept stage and it'd be a while until this comes into fruition.
love it+possible ideas=be able to shoot the spinners
peppy, i suggest you implement this mode as fast as you can, because a new rhythm game threatens to end your reign of popularity
Their open beta is tomorrow, but their forums isn't available at all - is that normal?Trash Boat wrote:
peppy, i suggest you implement this mode as fast as you can, because a new rhythm game threatens to end your reign of popularity
Yo they spelling 'coming' wrong on their website.Trash Boat wrote:
peppy, i suggest you implement this mode as fast as you can, because a new rhythm game threatens to end your reign of popularity
Volumax is confirmed comming soon.- [ U z z I ] - wrote:
Yo they spelling 'coming' wrong on their website.Trash Boat wrote:
peppy, i suggest you implement this mode as fast as you can, because a new rhythm game threatens to end your reign of popularity
Their forum is available - but no one is there.Myke B wrote:
Their open beta is tomorrow, but their forums isn't available at all - is that normal?
or maybe, you try help instead of telling him to hurry up :/Trash Boat wrote:
peppy, i suggest you implement this mode as fast as you can, because a new rhythm game threatens to end your reign of popularity
also take discussion of that game to the video games forum, not here
Tiem to support.
It's just a ripoff.- [ U z z I ] - wrote:
volumax isnt cute at all. no moe blobs. i dont support it. they just stole catch the beat and flipped it sideways. it also has ugly smoke everywhere. its really very ugly and not fun to look at.
Just...What the hell is this?- [ U z z I ] - wrote:
Yo they spelling 'coming' wrong on their website.Trash Boat wrote:
peppy, i suggest you implement this mode as fast as you can, because a new rhythm game threatens to end your reign of popularity
I'll be able too, to take all peppy's work and change some graphics....
I bet this game will make a veeeery short life (personal opinion). I even tried it (to say it better "I tried to try it") but i couldn't install it cause my graphic card isn't powerful enough...yeah...nice game....
Is there still a chance touhosu is going to made. Im confused from the last few posts on this thread
logon13 wrote:
Is there still a chance touhosu is going to made. Im confused from the last few posts on this thread
Still waiting...
There is, just you wait.logon13 wrote:
Is there still a chance touhosu is going to made. Im confused from the last few posts on this thread
Creating new mode is not easy. Just saying.
Is not necessary the permission of ZUN for create this game mode for osu xD peppy can only take the idea from Touhou and use it for the new game mode, like he did with Osu! Tatakae Ouendan for made osu!. Taking the general idea of a game you can create a new game with your own ideas to improve the game.Stop Trance wrote:
the idea nesecite permission of ZUN, peppy send mensagge to ZUN for copyright, is complicate? yeah D:
The permission of the Copyright of Touhou is necessary if peppy want to add some original stuff of Touhou in osu like characters or another things allowed only in Touhou.
Anyway... this game mode be implemented in osu.... some day, at least that i think ;-;
this thread didnt passed the page 16 yet?
Firstly, saying only +support or arguing over another rhythm game that has nothing to do with Touhosu! is a good way to get this thread locked.
As many people have said, the trick to this mode is keeping both the rhythm game feel of osu! and the insanity of bullet hells. Here is my suggestion: There needs to be the ability to shoot bullets as otherwise people only focus on dodging which has less rhythm and shooting allows you to get score. You can have the character automatically fire (or if you hold fire button) at a rhythm determined by the beatmap. There can be lots of enemies that pop up like fairies and spirits popping up according to the position of the notes in the original beatmap, but can come from edges of the screen too. Having enemies would make sure that people focus on something other than their character, and not just a boss in the center that you have to stay under to get max points. Personally I don't like the idea of grazing giving score (I don't like this in Touhou either >_>) and it makes more sense to have a combo gained by killing enemies. This would be more like a standard touhou stage or standard stage combined with Danmakufu because there would be lots of bullets plus enemies. Also it would be cool to have an 'All Clear' thing on beatmaps after you 1cc them.
Another difficulty brought up is making sure that the autoconverter would be able interesting patterns-- Sakuya Lv9 even suggests not implementing an autoconverter at all. I disagree with Sakuya, as the whole point of extra modes is being able to play all the songs in a different mode. Peppy might as well make an entirely different game if you couldn't use the already created beatmaps. Of course, Touhosu! specific beatmaps would be much better for this mode like other mode specific beatmaps are better for their respective categories.
An example of something sort of like this could be the first boss in 140: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN_aTIWQ81s
Yes this game is really easy and it shoots too slow. Also saying that an idea is bad because it's too easy doesn't make sense because peppy can adjust this very easily by making it have more bullets & there will be multiple difficulty settings for maps anyway.
As many people have said, the trick to this mode is keeping both the rhythm game feel of osu! and the insanity of bullet hells. Here is my suggestion: There needs to be the ability to shoot bullets as otherwise people only focus on dodging which has less rhythm and shooting allows you to get score. You can have the character automatically fire (or if you hold fire button) at a rhythm determined by the beatmap. There can be lots of enemies that pop up like fairies and spirits popping up according to the position of the notes in the original beatmap, but can come from edges of the screen too. Having enemies would make sure that people focus on something other than their character, and not just a boss in the center that you have to stay under to get max points. Personally I don't like the idea of grazing giving score (I don't like this in Touhou either >_>) and it makes more sense to have a combo gained by killing enemies. This would be more like a standard touhou stage or standard stage combined with Danmakufu because there would be lots of bullets plus enemies. Also it would be cool to have an 'All Clear' thing on beatmaps after you 1cc them.
Another difficulty brought up is making sure that the autoconverter would be able interesting patterns-- Sakuya Lv9 even suggests not implementing an autoconverter at all. I disagree with Sakuya, as the whole point of extra modes is being able to play all the songs in a different mode. Peppy might as well make an entirely different game if you couldn't use the already created beatmaps. Of course, Touhosu! specific beatmaps would be much better for this mode like other mode specific beatmaps are better for their respective categories.
An example of something sort of like this could be the first boss in 140: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN_aTIWQ81s
Yes this game is really easy and it shoots too slow. Also saying that an idea is bad because it's too easy doesn't make sense because peppy can adjust this very easily by making it have more bullets & there will be multiple difficulty settings for maps anyway.
Concerning about the combo, there is a game in mobile called shogun (which is kinda similar as touhou) in which in order to gain a multiplier (in this game, it is term as "stealing your enemy's energy") you need to be nearer, but not to close, to the foe's bullets to gain a certain addition to your multiplier in this case one bullet is equal to plus one.
Here's the mechanics I've explained lately presented in the video below:
Just skip to 0:38
Here's the mechanics I've explained lately presented in the video below:
Just skip to 0:38
i just had a wonderful idea about how Touhosu! could be. it's osu! with autoplay, but each hit circle clicked fires a circle wave of danmakus. this also applies for the end(and the start maybe) of the sliders, the slider tics(maybe the reverse arrow too) and the spinners(but only after its cleared, then it will fire danmakus from the centre). i think that the cursor will be also a target to dodge. the speed of the danmaku waves may vary accord to the song. what do you think?
As a (former) Audiosurf player I have to mention a big issue for me which comes with the concept of moving in order to hit/dodge incoming barriers or in this case bullets. It is the simple fact that you have to act before the actual beat occurs, making it kind of failure in the rhythm part of a rhythm game in my opinion. Alternatively the bullets could come in a little bit delayed, so you'd have to move to the beat to dodge them, but this would be pretty weird.
Of course osu! itself is a lot about moving, but you still have to click with the beat, making you somehow part of the music, like if you were playing an instrument.
This is just my humble opinion though and I have to admit that CtB and Audiosurf are pretty successful and therefore enjoyable to some despite this fact.
Of course osu! itself is a lot about moving, but you still have to click with the beat, making you somehow part of the music, like if you were playing an instrument.
This is just my humble opinion though and I have to admit that CtB and Audiosurf are pretty successful and therefore enjoyable to some despite this fact.
just in case, get an idea from the rave party version of this skin
t/45689?hilit=konata
t/45689?hilit=konata
The rules in Touhosu! is you must shoot the enemy in time with the beat and if you got shot or shot the enemy offbeat is considered a miss or 100/50 and the mods are just the same as other modes.
Peppy said something about it in his presentation
son he had already confirmed touhosu long before that japan expo in franceSynxx3 wrote:
Peppy said something about it in his presentation
Confirmed yes, but in our lifetime, Maybe?deadbeat wrote:
son he had already confirmed touhosu long before that japan expo in franceSynxx3 wrote:
Peppy said something about it in his presentation
Thread was created 5 yrs ago... I dont think its going to happen
Like the posts directly above state...peppy already confirmed this will be in osu! one day.TheLPerSteve wrote:
Thread was created 5 yrs ago... I dont think its going to happen
I know he did, but his last post on this thread was also 5 yrs ago (i've only read the first page of this topic,so excuse me if he replied again)Maxis wrote:
Like the posts directly above state...peppy already confirmed this will be in osu! one day.TheLPerSteve wrote:
Thread was created 5 yrs ago... I dont think its going to happen
Im not really sure if he still want to apply this, and when yes when.
seasonS_old
yes fkn please!
Since I didn't feel like reading 17 pages to see What has, or has not been suggested, some of my ideas might already be suggested.
Anyway,here's my take on it!
Bullet spawning
Combo / Scoring
Lifebar
Bombs
Mods
Misc
Thanks to everyone who managed to read my enormous wall of text.
I've probably spend way too much time on this then I should, but it was fun thinking of all the game mechanics, so time well spend I guess.
Feel free to criticize/expand on my ideas.
Anyway,here's my take on it!
Bullet spawning
SPOILER
Hitcircles
-Bullets spawn in the top quarter of the screen, based on horizontal position
-Random amount of bullets (Depending on diffeculty)
-Random bullet direction (full 360°?)
-Varying bullet speeds (margin based on BPM)
-Streams Shoot a bullet aimed at your current position,
Sliders
-Spawns an enemy on the start and the end of every slider (Again, top quarter of the screen)
-Enemies move at a set speed (based on BPM)
-Enemies move randomly throughout the top half of the screen (and go off-screen after a set amount of time (based on diffeculty))
-Enemies have a different attack pattern (and sprite) based on hitsound (random, aimed, in a circle, straight down, ect.)
-Reversearrows shoot a bullet at your current position (Like streams)
Spinners
-Shoots bullets in a spiral from the center of the screen
-Turning speed based on BPM
-Amount of bullet streams and bullet density per stream based on diffeculty
-Fades in so you have time to react (fade-in speed based on approach rate)
-Bullets spawn in the top quarter of the screen, based on horizontal position
-Random amount of bullets (Depending on diffeculty)
-Random bullet direction (full 360°?)
-Varying bullet speeds (margin based on BPM)
-Streams Shoot a bullet aimed at your current position,
Sliders
-Spawns an enemy on the start and the end of every slider (Again, top quarter of the screen)
-Enemies move at a set speed (based on BPM)
-Enemies move randomly throughout the top half of the screen (and go off-screen after a set amount of time (based on diffeculty))
-Enemies have a different attack pattern (and sprite) based on hitsound (random, aimed, in a circle, straight down, ect.)
-Reversearrows shoot a bullet at your current position (Like streams)
Spinners
-Shoots bullets in a spiral from the center of the screen
-Turning speed based on BPM
-Amount of bullet streams and bullet density per stream based on diffeculty
-Fades in so you have time to react (fade-in speed based on approach rate)
Combo / Scoring
SPOILER
-Enemies that are killed will spawn a proportionate amount of point pickups (that drop down)
-Amount of points dropped is based on enemy type and how long it took you to kill it
-You get a very small amount af points for every bullet that misses you within a certain area around you (area is based on diffeculty and combo)
-Combo builds up when you kill an enemy (also nets you some points)
-Combo breaks if you get hit
-The higher the combo, the more damage you do (incerments whenever you would get a comboburst)
-Amount of points dropped is based on enemy type and how long it took you to kill it
-You get a very small amount af points for every bullet that misses you within a certain area around you (area is based on diffeculty and combo)
-Combo builds up when you kill an enemy (also nets you some points)
-Combo breaks if you get hit
-The higher the combo, the more damage you do (incerments whenever you would get a comboburst)
Lifebar
SPOILER
-Drains slowly over time
-Drains when you are hit
-Fills up if you kill an enemy
-Fills up a little bit when collecting points
-Drains when you are hit
-Fills up if you kill an enemy
-Fills up a little bit when collecting points
Bombs
SPOILER
-Bombs spawn in a random location whenever there is a pause moment in the song
-Start out with 1 bomb
-Bombs stack up to 3
-When used, a bomb will destroy all enemys and bullets currently on screen (no points awarded)
-Start out with 1 bomb
-Bombs stack up to 3
-When used, a bomb will destroy all enemys and bullets currently on screen (no points awarded)
Mods
SPOILER
Easy mode
-3 Lives
-Slower lifedrain
-More life recovery
-Less bullets
-Less enemy health
-Slower enemies
-Longer fade-in for spinners
No fail
-Self explanatory
Half time
-Self explanatory
Hardrock
-Opposite of easy mode
Sudden death
-Can't get hit
Perfect
-Can't get hit
-Collect all point drops
-Kill all enemies before they go off-screen
-No bombs
Speedup/Nightcore
-Self explanatory
Hidden
-Bullets dissappear in a certain radius around your character
-Area increases with combo
Flashlight
-Can only see a certain area around you
-Area decreases with combo
Relax
-Auto targeting
Auto pilot
- Score drops "home in" on you
Auto
-Self explanatory
-3 Lives
-Slower lifedrain
-More life recovery
-Less bullets
-Less enemy health
-Slower enemies
-Longer fade-in for spinners
No fail
-Self explanatory
Half time
-Self explanatory
Hardrock
-Opposite of easy mode
Sudden death
-Can't get hit
Perfect
-Can't get hit
-Collect all point drops
-Kill all enemies before they go off-screen
-No bombs
Speedup/Nightcore
-Self explanatory
Hidden
-Bullets dissappear in a certain radius around your character
-Area increases with combo
Flashlight
-Can only see a certain area around you
-Area decreases with combo
Relax
-Auto targeting
Auto pilot
- Score drops "home in" on you
Auto
-Self explanatory
Misc
SPOILER
-Accuracy is based on enemies spawned vs enemies killed & bullets shot vs enemies hit
-Everything marked as "random" should be fixed per beatmap/diffeculty for consistany and fairness.
-Everything marked as "random" should be fixed per beatmap/diffeculty for consistany and fairness.
Thanks to everyone who managed to read my enormous wall of text.
I've probably spend way too much time on this then I should, but it was fun thinking of all the game mechanics, so time well spend I guess.
Feel free to criticize/expand on my ideas.
I'm surprised this idea is still alive. It would be a nice thing to have indeed.
I don't know about having enemies in the game. I mean it's supposed to be about the rhythm. There's plenty of actual touhou games if you want to fight boss battles and they usually take much longer than the average TV Size map.
I don't know about having enemies in the game. I mean it's supposed to be about the rhythm. There's plenty of actual touhou games if you want to fight boss battles and they usually take much longer than the average TV Size map.
good ^u^
Heh. Still up for this.
I doubt it. Touhou and osu aren't exactly compatible.
Mainly because osu is full of whiners who can't handle retrying a bit
Mainly because osu is full of whiners who can't handle retrying a bit
I can handle retrying
In this video
peppy said that touhosu is done but needs more developing before pubblishing
peppy said that touhosu is done but needs more developing before pubblishing
he actually more or less confirmed touhosu before that expo. and has done so a few times since then :p
where have you seen it?seasonS wrote:
Is it really?Heftig wrote:
It's coming at the beginning of next year!
I know Volumax has already showed us the progress on their danmaku mode. And I'm surprised it's coming since I haven't seen any progress.
Chirimu-Chan
It's already confirmed to come, and I'm really curious to this mode
Can't wait to see it
Can't wait to see it
This is a dream come true.
Oh peppy why are you so pure and generous, you awesome dude.
Can't wait for it to be integrated into the game!
Oh peppy why are you so pure and generous, you awesome dude.
Can't wait for it to be integrated into the game!
Anybody got news on Touhosu?Railander wrote:
Is it really?seasonS wrote:
It's coming at the beginning of next year!
I know Volumax has already showed us the progress on their danmaku mode. And I'm surprised it's coming since I haven't seen any progress.
Something? Anyone? Please?
Oh gawd... If it's really happening i'm gonna have no life anymore.
Love you peppy.
Love you peppy.
Still waiting for this to happen, will (probably) quit standard for it.
Any updates? .... please?
Any updates? .... please?
Live thread!
This will come along with osu! next?
If I had to guess, probably. Would make the most sense.Trash Boat wrote:
This will come along with osu! next?
Is the name Touhosu! final?
peppy wrote:
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
I hope someone puts at least a concept image about the final product!
TOUHOSU HYPE
the year is still young my friendNetinus wrote:
2015 and touhosu not exist...
You guys are starting to remind of the bitcoin communitydrum drum wrote:
the year is still young my friendNetinus wrote:
2015 and touhosu not exist...
Peppy should hire ZUN for thisNetinus wrote:
2015 and touhosu not exist...
It's not like money is an issue for this right? RIGHT?[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
Peppy should hire ZUN for this
Why -LeeP- why do you have to read my post-LeeP- wrote:
It's not like money is an issue for this right? RIGHT?
ok, here goes
Let''s start a campaign for people to throw money instead of stars
So now this turned into the kickstarter community.
at least it isnt the punchstarter one 
im going to play touhou while waiting
is this a new mode?
if so. in the future we will going to have Touhosu! mappers, Touhosu! BNs, anything lol
if so. in the future we will going to have Touhosu! mappers, Touhosu! BNs, anything lol
I don´t really think a danmaku fits in a rhythm game like osu!, it seems really weird to me.
there was a video depicting a possible idea for touhosu!, the bullet waves were very accurate, so I guess it could be something like that
Mind linking said video?Trash Boat wrote:
there was a video depicting a possible idea for touhosu!, the bullet waves were very accurate, so I guess it could be something like that
There was a really good one I played before on the computer (which lets you pick a song and start playing), I uninstalled it since it is only a trial versionFrcV wrote:
I don´t really think a danmaku fits in a rhythm game like osu!, it seems really weird to me.
and that was like 3 years ago
the idea works but ranking it complicates the whole thing even more especially when you have 30k+ beatmaps out there
the guys who started this post wasn't even sure if peppy would take this seriously in the first place but it is definitely coming to osu! and the number of supporters (stars) keep increasing everyday
Maybe something similar to Beat Hazard? The bullets fired go with the beat of the song, and the intensity of the song, also depends on how strong your bullets are.
That's what I'd guess. I'd be so hyped if it was like BeatHazard and if you could map it the way I have it in my mind (place bullets from the angles, how many, blah blah)-[Drew]- wrote:
Maybe something similar to Beat Hazard? The bullets fired go with the beat of the song, and the intensity of the song, also depends on how strong your bullets are.
Oh god, I'm TOTALLY supporting this.
Just imagine playing touhosu with friends. It's PoFV all over again :^)
Just imagine playing touhosu with friends. It's PoFV all over again :^)