Hey.
As everybody knows, in new ranking criteria a map MUST NOT have an username in custom name.
I personally think this idea is wrong. For example-hardest diff in mapset is usually insane or extra, but what, if there are many very hard diffs in mapset? For example http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40344
I know, that this map dont have an easy/normal/hard diff, but if it had, how would it be ranked? I think map diffspread will look like this
-easy
-normal
-hard
-insane
To this point it looks pretty normal. But this map have more diffs, every is extra.
-angelhoney's extra
-collab extra
-extra
-lucifer's extra
-blue dragon's (custom diff name)
Look, how sh*tty would it look, if it was sumbitted now.
i think diffs SHOULD include names, like 0108, or for example my nick, Nemesis, what not only points who is creator of it, but also means "enemy" so player knows it will be hard.
Sorry if my arguments are good enough, but seriously, bring it back D:

It's not a rule though, I'm pretty sure it's just a guideline and things will be handled on a case-by-case basis. You can still use custom difficulty names as long as they can't be perceived as potentially offensive.

What about 0108's? Its a shame they cant be named like that

Its my 100th post by the way, yayy!

[Nemesis] wrote:

What about 0108's? Its a shame they cant be named like that

I don't think I saw anything in that thread about not allowing those types of names.
Yuzu-'s proposed change is:

A difficulty's name must indicate its level of difficulty, with the exception of the hardest level of difficulty in a set. The mapset's hardest difficulty may use an appropriate custom difficulty name, unrelated to an username. Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player. Marathon maps with a single difficulty may use free naming. Potentially rude or offensive difficulty names are NOT allowed.

which still allows custom names as long as none are rude/offensive.
Edit: oh wait I just saw the part about the username. But Stefan said later in the thread that the general guideline is that no rude/offensive names can be used. Pretty sure username difficulties will be fine.

what's the difference between 0108 and 0108's extra except for 's extra?
what's so bad about 's extra that it completely ruins the diffname?
the only difference is that 's extra actually tells you that the map will be very difficult without you having to look at the star rating or playing the map.
and by "you" i mean a person that has no idea what 0108 or nogard or angelhoney or whatever means.

I'm pretty sure that right now, only the hardest diff can have a custom name without the difficulty ("insane", "extra", etc) in it, and it can or cannot include a username.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/196028 - True Dance is made by Minakami Yuki (not Sellenite, the mapset owner) but you'd have to look at the beatmap description to know that. Anybody who just downloads the map and sees it in game will assume that it's Sellenite's diff.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/157168 - Chloe's Black Bullet was unranked because he used the custom name "Black Bullet" for the second hardest diff in the set (currently the Insane). If anything, that name should have gone to the hardest diff, Hanzversible's Extra.

I don't know about this one https://osu.ppy.sh/b/311660 Fycho's S.M.L. because Skystar is the username title for the second hardest difficulty. Maybe it was before the star rating system change, (and they considered Skystar) to be the hardest diff, but this could serve as precedent for allowing custom/username diffs.

However, I know for sure https://osu.ppy.sh/b/91258?m=0 (Super Stream from Infinite Stratos) was way before the star rating overhaul, but they couldn't have considered AngelHoney to be a harder diff than Insane, yet it was still allowed its name.

Now with the facts out of the way, this is my opinion: I'm against any change to the current system, because if we were gonna allow username diffs for the insanes/extras, someone will make the argument that their hard should be allowed to have such a name too, and then normal and easy. I'd much rather maintain the idea of usernames being cool and edgy for those extremely hard diffs (not even insanes, because some of them aren't hard by comparison), but there's no clear cutoff for which you can make an argument in favor of "difficulties harder than this can be named with a username", so the best choice is to only limit that to the hardest difficulty.

* State the exact rule you do not agree with (do not focus on the new rules as an overall "bad" thing).
* State why you do not agree with it. Make sure you have a better reason than "I don't like it" or "that's not how I roll".
* State how you would reword or change the rule in order to make it work better for the good of the community.

Also peppy stated already that difficulties with just an username are totally unrankable. Difficulties must be labelled according to the level they represent, out of the hardest difficulty which can use a custom name. Marathons are also exceptions.

Denied.

In fact Difficulty names should be creative if custom. And using the own username isn't creative. Imagine something like "Stefan - Mystyk - Kyshiro - Alumetorz" as E/N/H/I spread. That's awful. Also abbreviations like "0108" or "AHO" are bad because that would allow weird and completely unknown names like "Stef" (for my case).


Just to make it more clear why that's bad.

Stefan wrote:

In fact Difficulty names should be creative if custom. And using the own username isn't creative. Imagine something like "Stefan - Mystyk - Kyshiro - Alumetorz" as E/N/H/I spread. That's awful. Also abbreviations like "0108" or "AHO" are bad because that would allow weird and completely unknown names like "Stef" (for my case).

Just to make it more clear why that's bad.

Plus they don't even name the difficulty which is another reason why.