All updated~

Rechecked, Kantan and Futsuu may be little harder but because of rhythm so I think it's fine.

Bubbled!~

After discussing with mapper , we decide to change the title and make the pattern more simple on kantan.

Re-bubbled!

[General]
Personally I see no real reason in changing the sound volume at the Kiai time. Just keep it constant at 80~85% (because 90% sounds too loud imo) through the whole map. The only exception is 01:27:898 - because that is fine to decrease the volume.

[Kantan]
00:09:731 (9,10,11) - I really don't feel like this plays well or comfortable for newer players because that pretty feels fast with kd k where the 2nd k is 1/2. I really consider removing 00:09:731 (9). That makes it better.
00:23:064 (24) - Same issue as above.
00:42:064 (45) - That's only a suggestion by me but you could remove this note because you have xxx xxx xxx which decrease the "effect" you have of the three notes in a row. Also you emphasize with 00:41:398 (44) the vocal way better. As said, it's not so bad but my suggestion for that.
00:52:731 (57,58) - Actually I was about to suggest 00:52:064 (56,57,58,59,60) changing to d d d pattern but I think it's enough when you remove (57) here. And do (58) as d, it's the same sound like 00:52:064 (56).
00:59:398 (65) - Unlike 01:01:398 (69) (65) sounds weird with k. I recommend to change for d.
01:05:398 (75,76,77,78,79,80) - That feels too harsh, especially ddk at the begin. Please consider using this pattern: http://puu.sh/bEcZv/97fdff252c.png (If you want to keep 01:06:064 as k that's fine too)
01:10:064 (83) - Same like 00:59:398 (65).
01:26:564 (106) - That's fully up to you if you want to change the rhythm here but making this simplier would be nice if you move this to 01:27:398.

[Futsuu]
You may want to keep 1.20x for SV in this Difficulty because of the BPM.
00:25:731 (47,53,59) - xxx xxx xxx xxx... feels very repetitive to play and leaves less space to emphasize things in the music. I suggest to remove that. It has more effect when you play x x xxx x x xxx instead of xxx xxx xxx xxx. And 00:26:731 (49,50,51) / 00:29:398 (55,56,57) are good for three notes because of the cymbal sound here.
00:36:064 - 00:41:398 - Same here.
00:49:064 (100) - I'd leave this out since this part is calmer and doesn't need to be filled up with more and more notes.
00:51:398 (104) - d? To make the following note more "lighter" in sound.
00:54:398 (110) - I personally find this circle doesn't contribiute much here and should be removed. But that's more my personal sight and isn't something what is bad in general.
01:04:398 (131) - ^
01:07:731 (139) - d? That looks better to follow imo.
01:15:064 (156) - Same like 00:54:398 (110).
01:17:731 (162) - The part from 01:14:731 - 01:19:898 - is very very tricky and you should give the player a short break to take a breathe or.. whatever. Well, they should use this break to bundle their concentration for the last part of the map and that would helps a lot. remove 01:17:731 (162).
01:19:064 (165) - You can do this with that one too, that wouldn't hurt tbh.

[Muzukashii]
00:14:898 (54,65,77) - Some more break time makes this not so exhausting and doesn't really breaks the rhythm here. It's consistent, easy to "unterstand" the purpose of the break here. When you remove them then this should make it way better to play and to follow.
00:35:064 (30,31) - To hold the Big K sound you use on 00:34:731 (28,32) I highly suggest removing (30) and making (31) as Big K.
00:49:898 (89,90,91) - You have used on 00:47:231 (79,80,81) dkd which wasn't so bad at all but why didn't you used it here then?
00:59:064 (128) - I'd wish from you removing this to prevent that combo line being so long.
01:05:564 (153) - Move to 01:05:231. That currently sounds not so well with the vocals, you mapped it like "mmmmmmm" but the music is more like "mm-mm-mm". I hope you understand what I mean. lol
01:09:731 (170) - Same like 00:59:064 (128).
01:22:898 (223,235) - Same like 00:14:898 (54,65,77).

[Oni]
00:38:064 (65,66,67,68,69) - I find this kinda unnatural to play tbh. I would perfer it to make this into seperated triplets like 00:40:231 (79,80,81,82,83,84). Move 00:38:148 (66) to 00:37:981 and let me know what do you think about this.
01:05:398 (230,235) - To emphasize the vocals better - because I think they are really significant - changing them to k is a good idea.

[JuDa's Oni]
I'd recommend to rename it into "JuDa's Inner Oni" since the density and Triplet/Stream usage here is noticeable higher than in Oni.
00:00:065 (1) - I really find this spinner misplaced at its use. It doesn't really feel like "starting" the map much, you should remove it.
00:53:981 (2,3) - CTRL+G them, kdk sounds much better to the vocals.

I have some doubts in Kantan and Futsuu to be honest.. firstly I will wait for your answer.

Stefan wrote:

[General]
Personally I see no real reason in changing the sound volume at the Kiai time. Just keep it constant at 80~85% (because 90% sounds too loud imo) through the whole map. The only exception is 01:27:898 - because that is fine to decrease the volume.

keep, it's up to Nardo.

[JuDa's Oni]
I'd recommend to rename it into "JuDa's Inner Oni" since the density and Triplet/Stream usage here is noticeable higher than in Oni. uum, No change. This mapping is Oni for me.
00:00:065 (1) - I really find this spinner misplaced at its use. It doesn't really feel like "starting" the map much, you should remove it. Sure.
00:53:981 (2,3) - CTRL+G them, kdk sounds much better to the vocals. Sounds good, fixed~

Thanks for mod

http://puu.sh/bEToK/d856d40d11.osu

Stefan wrote:

[General]
Personally I see no real reason in changing the sound volume at the Kiai time. Just keep it constant at 80~85% (because 90% sounds too loud imo) through the whole map. The only exception is 01:27:898 - because that is fine to decrease the volume. I think it is suitable because the increase in hitsound volume could result in a better emphasis of the kiai.

[Kantan]
00:09:731 (9,10,11) - I really don't feel like this plays well or comfortable for newer players because that pretty feels fast with kd k where the 2nd k is 1/2. I really consider removing 00:09:731 (9). That makes it better. fixed
00:23:064 (24) - Same issue as above. I would like to keep it since the next notes land on the white lines.
00:42:064 (45) - That's only a suggestion by me but you could remove this note because you have xxx xxx xxx which decrease the "effect" you have of the three notes in a row. Also you emphasize with 00:41:398 (44) the vocal way better. As said, it's not so bad but my suggestion for that. I feel like something is missing after deleting the note. No change here.
00:52:731 (57,58) - Actually I was about to suggest 00:52:064 (56,57,58,59,60) changing to d d d pattern but I think it's enough when you remove (57) here. And do (58) as d, it's the same sound like 00:52:064 (56). The current pattern could introduce a good impact in the pre-kiai. It is not difficult with the 2/1 spacing.
00:59:398 (65) - Unlike 01:01:398 (69) (65) sounds weird with k. I recommend to change for d. As it has the same vocal pitch as 01:01:398 (68) - , k would be better imo.
01:05:398 (75,76,77,78,79,80) - That feels too harsh, especially ddk at the begin. Please consider using this pattern: http://puu.sh/bEcZv/97fdff252c.png (If you want to keep 01:06:064 as k that's fine too) A 4/1 break is already given before the 1/1 ddk to allow sufficient time for preparation. As the pattern could fit both the vocal and the music, I would like to keep it.
01:10:064 (83) - Same like 00:59:398 (65). same as above.
01:26:564 (106) - That's fully up to you if you want to change the rhythm here but making this simplier would be nice if you move this to 01:27:398. I prefer keeping it for fitting the music better.

[Futsuu]
You may want to keep 1.20x for SV in this Difficulty because of the BPM. Okay.
00:25:731 (47,53,59) - xxx xxx xxx xxx... feels very repetitive to play and leaves less space to emphasize things in the music. I suggest to remove that. It has more effect when you play x x xxx x x xxx instead of xxx xxx xxx xxx. And 00:26:731 (49,50,51) / 00:29:398 (55,56,57) are good for three notes because of the cymbal sound here. fixed
00:36:064 - 00:41:398 - Same here. Retained as snare sounds are present.
00:49:064 (100) - I'd leave this out since this part is calmer and doesn't need to be filled up with more and more notes. fixed
00:51:398 (104) - d? To make the following note more "lighter" in sound. fixed
00:54:398 (110) - I personally find this circle doesn't contribiute much here and should be removed. But that's more my personal sight and isn't something what is bad in general. Retained for the prominent cymbal.
01:04:398 (131) - ^ Similar to ^ , I made it for the snare this time.
01:07:731 (139) - d? That looks better to follow imo. Keeping it as k could maintain the snare consistency.
01:15:064 (156) - Same like 00:54:398 (110). same as above.
01:17:731 (162) - The part from 01:14:731 - 01:19:898 - is very very tricky and you should give the player a short break to take a breathe or.. whatever. Well, they should use this break to bundle their concentration for the last part of the map and that would helps a lot. remove 01:17:731 (162). Removed 01:19:064 - instead.
01:19:064 (165) - You can do this with that one too, that wouldn't hurt tbh. fixed

[Muzukashii]
00:14:898 (54,65,77) - Some more break time makes this not so exhausting and doesn't really breaks the rhythm here. It's consistent, easy to "unterstand" the purpose of the break here. When you remove them then this should make it way better to play and to follow. fixed
00:35:064 (30,31) - To hold the Big K sound you use on 00:34:731 (28,32) I highly suggest removing (30) and making (31) as Big K. changed 00:35:231 (31) - to D.
00:49:898 (89,90,91) - You have used on 00:47:231 (79,80,81) dkd which wasn't so bad at all but why didn't you used it here then? I prefer keeping the ddk since the vocal pitch pattern is different.
00:59:064 (128) - I'd wish from you removing this to prevent that combo line being so long. fixed
01:05:564 (153) - Move to 01:05:231. That currently sounds not so well with the vocals, you mapped it like "mmmmmmm" but the music is more like "mm-mm-mm". I hope you understand what I mean. lol I think I got what you mean. Fixed.
01:09:731 (170) - Same like 00:59:064 (128). fixed
01:22:898 (223,235) - Same like 00:14:898 (54,65,77). Deleted 01:22:898 - only.

[Oni]
00:38:064 (65,66,67,68,69) - I find this kinda unnatural to play tbh. I would perfer it to make this into seperated triplets like 00:40:231 (79,80,81,82,83,84). Move 00:38:148 (66) to 00:37:981 and let me know what do you think about this. It seems better. Fixed.
01:05:398 (230,235) - To emphasize the vocals better - because I think they are really significant - changing them to k is a good idea. Changed 01:06:064 (235) - to k only as the vocal pitch at 01:05:398 (230) - is rather low.

I have some doubts in Kantan and Futsuu to be honest.. firstly I will wait for your answer.

Thanks for your mod~

Updated.

Made some little changes to Kantan/Futsuu/Muzukashii, making them more enjoyable for their level.

Qualified!

oh my god that took me five minutes to find out how to qualify orz

Stefan wrote:

oh my god that took me five minutes to find out how to qualify orz

loool
congratz anyway

Congratz!

Congratz Nardo :3

For QAT: Referring to official webiste, the source is supposed to be IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 (after romanisation, IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ = Infinite Stratos)
Since you didn't want to list all the singers, you used Infinite Stratos Cast for artist. You should include official name of the anime instead of "Infinite Stratos", so it would be "IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ Cast", but since it is from 2nd anime, it should probably be "IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 Cast", but you'll have to consult it with QAT member, if you should use IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ Cast or IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 Cast in artist. For a romanisation, it would be "Infinite Stratos Cast" or "Infinite Stratos 2 Cast)

Referring to official soundtrack's case, the title is supposed to be BEAUTIFUL SKY [TVSIZE 5人ver.] and romanised BEAUTIFUL SKY [TVSIZE 5nin ver.]

On the CD case, there are used 【 and 】 instead of [ and ], so it might also need a consultation.

Wafu wrote:

For QAT: Referring to official webiste, the source is supposed to be IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 (after romanisation, IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ = Infinite Stratos)
Since you didn't want to list all the singers, you used Infinite Stratos Cast for artist. You should include official name of the anime instead of "Infinite Stratos", so it would be "IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ Cast", but since it is from 2nd anime, it should probably be "IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 Cast", but you'll have to consult it with QAT member, if you should use IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ Cast or IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 Cast in artist. For a romanisation, it would be "Infinite Stratos Cast" or "Infinite Stratos 2 Cast)

Referring to official soundtrack's case, the title is supposed to be BEAUTIFUL SKY [TVSIZE 5人ver.] and romanised BEAUTIFUL SKY [TVSIZE 5nin ver.]

On the CD case, there are used 【 and 】 instead of [ and ], so it might also need a consultation.

;A; meta disqualify

Congratz Nardo senpai !

Wafu wrote:

For QAT: Referring to official webiste, the source is supposed to be IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 (after romanisation, IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ = Infinite Stratos)
Since you didn't want to list all the singers, you used Infinite Stratos Cast for artist. You should include official name of the anime instead of "Infinite Stratos", so it would be "IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ Cast", but since it is from 2nd anime, it should probably be "IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 Cast", but you'll have to consult it with QAT member, if you should use IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ Cast or IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 Cast in artist. For a romanisation, it would be "Infinite Stratos Cast" or "Infinite Stratos 2 Cast)

Referring to official soundtrack's case, the title is supposed to be BEAUTIFUL SKY [TVSIZE 5人ver.] and romanised BEAUTIFUL SKY [TVSIZE 5nin ver.]

On the CD case, there are used 【 and 】 instead of [ and ], so it might also need a consultation.

Well,I had asked KSHR about the title issue for this song
This this the source where he gave me and the conclusion about the title

I also searched the another source of this song http://vgmdb.net/album/42229
The parentheses from these website are the current one.
Just want to explain it for QAT who will unqualify it. This issue needs more discussion .

;w;
Congrazt!

qoot8123 wrote:

Well,I had asked KSHR about the title issue for this song
This this the source where he gave me and the conclusion about the title

I also searched the another source of this song http://vgmdb.net/album/42229
The parentheses from these website are the current one.
Just want to explain it for QAT who will unqualify it. This issue needs more discussion .

Shops and databases are not reliable. (e.g. iTunes often alters the song/artist name, especially for east Asian artists)
vgmdb and many other databases are not reliable. We should hold the official sources > unofficial.
The romanised artist and title is here for a reason. Infinite Stratos Cast is already romanised, so it should be IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ Cast or IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 Cast.

Same as title is stylized wrong. [ and ] is not ( and ) as stated on official soundtrack's CD: http://puu.sh/bFHKr/9acf3fc73e.jpg
And source should be IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2, since it is original name, Infinite Stratos 2 is already way we should romanise it. If you just pass through http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/is2/ as it is official website, you can see they are calling the anime IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2. Just look at the website title in your browser, or click on "book" tab, you will see it is all named like this, not Infinite Stratos 2.

I would not say this needs discussion, I explained it as much as possible, it is just wrong as it is since official sources are different and I already explained it. Any unofficial source is not reliable. Lantis is also not reliable - they listed different song name than the soundtrack listed it. They released it under this name, same as many shops and publishers do, they just wrote it different on website, but after the CD was released - They cannot change released thing. It was released under BEAUTIFUL SKY [TVSIZE 5人ver.], so it is supposed to stay like that.

Wafu wrote:

qoot8123 wrote:

Well,I had asked KSHR about the title issue for this song
This this the source where he gave me and the conclusion about the title

I also searched the another source of this song http://vgmdb.net/album/42229
The parentheses from these website are the current one.
Just want to explain it for QAT who will unqualify it. This issue needs more discussion .

Shops and databases are not reliable. (e.g. iTunes often alters the song/artist name, especially for east Asian artists)
vgmdb and many other databases are not reliable. We should hold the official sources > unofficial.
The romanised artist and title is here for a reason. Infinite Stratos Cast is already romanised, so it should be IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞ Cast or IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2 Cast.

Same as title is stylized wrong. [ and ] is not ( and ) as stated on official soundtrack's CD: http://puu.sh/bFHKr/9acf3fc73e.jpg
And source should be IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2, since it is original name, Infinite Stratos 2 is already way we should romanise it. If you just pass through http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/is2/ as it is official website, you can see they are calling the anime IS＜インフィニット・ストラトス＞2. Just look at the website title in your browser, or click on "book" tab, you will see it is all named like this, not Infinite Stratos 2.

I would not say this needs discussion, I explained it as much as possible, it is just wrong as it is since official sources are different and I already explained it. Any unofficial source is not reliable. Lantis is also not reliable - they listed different song name than the soundtrack listed it. They released it under this name, same as many shops and publishers do, they just wrote it different on website, but after the CD was released - They cannot change released thing. It was released under BEAUTIFUL SKY [TVSIZE 5人ver.], so it is supposed to stay like that.

http://www.lantis.jp/

^This is from Lantis that has released the OST. Therefore this one also should be considered as official. Apparently only CD case shows a label with 【】 just for better appearance.

Also if this gets disqualified over this metadata issue, it's totally my bad. I wonder why there is difference between an official web site and CD case.

KSHR wrote:

http://www.lantis.jp/

^This is from Lantis that has released the OST. Therefore this one also should be considered as official. Apparently only CD case shows a label with 【】 just for better appearance.

Also if this gets disqualified over this metadata issue, it's totally my bad. I wonder why there is difference between an official web site and CD case.

Well.. the problem is that Source and Artist is wrong too. It uses romanised artist and source, but not the japanese one, so romanised artist is not used here for no reason.
The difference is here, because different person was stylizing that text on case and different person was adding it to website. On the whole case, there was ( and ) used many times, so we should make difference between ( and [.

Don't take it offensively, I just want to have this correct. I'd say we should hold how it was printed. Those who write informations like this on website mostly overlook these details. Anyway, if it is [ or ( is not that much deals as using the romanised artist instead of using japanese.

Wafu wrote:

KSHR wrote:

http://www.lantis.jp/

^This is from Lantis that has released the OST. Therefore this one also should be considered as official. Apparently only CD case shows a label with 【】 just for better appearance.

Also if this gets disqualified over this metadata issue, it's totally my bad. I wonder why there is difference between an official web site and CD case.

Well.. the problem is that Source and Artist is wrong too. It uses romanised artist and source, but not the japanese one, so romanised artist is not used here for no reason.
The difference is here, because different person was stylizing that text on case and different person was adding it to website. On the whole case, there was ( and ) used many times, so we should make difference between ( and [.

Don't take it offensively, I just want to have this correct. I'd say we should hold how it was printed. Those who write informations like this on website mostly overlook these details. Anyway, if it is [ or ( is not that much deals as using the romanised artist instead of using japanese.

I already explained why "Infinite Stratos Cast" is used in the artist field in my forum pm which I sent qoot. Also both an original language and romanization are allowed under the current ranking criteria.
About a label, I have a concern. How do we get CD cases for future maps? The safe way is only buying a CD in my opinion. Others are maybe illegal .
Ofc don't take this offensively as well. I just wrote my opinion.

I read your explaination and I didn't say anything against it. Romanised artist and normal artist name is here so it is used, not ignored, that's the point. If it is illegal, then only for the one who uploaded it, if you can see it somewhere, you didn't make anything illegal.

And to be honest, how do you safely get the mp3? Only by buying the soundtrack. So who uploaded the song should have the case and can know the true title and all the other metadata.

Grats nardo

Thanks for all of your support