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Nightwish - She Is My Sin

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NatsumeRin
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年3月9日 at 20:30:01

Artist: Nightwish
Title: She Is My Sin
Tags: Wishmaster gothic metal rock
BPM: 153
Filesize: 3236kb
Play Time: 03:09
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.56 stars, 312 notes)
  2. Insane (5 stars, 523 notes)
  3. Normal (3.2 stars, 132 notes)
Download: Nightwish - She Is My Sin
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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...~Nightwish~
all diffs done...ready for modding.
3.1 add 3rd combo color, some other things fixed.
3.5 finally find a timing that makes me comfortable =v=
Saten ruiko
STAR~~
uranuss8600
STAR! ;)
LKs
Wishmaster gothic metal rock 写在source里面
musci track=1.5~2秒

normal+

作为normal+也难了,改为hard,再增加一个normal难度会更好
[00:13:40] no clap. use finish
[00:19:67] add finish
[00;45:06] 声音下降一格,有点大了
[01:03:88] ^
[01:48:28] add a note
[02:12:00] no whistle
[02:38:08] 这里用kiai不太好,因为这里是soft音效
[02:51:20] spacing太近了

insane
建议,或许做图多一点折返式slider会更好
[00:07:91] 之前的渐强音用的不错,这里也用一下
[00:25:59] no clap. use finish
[01:14:56] maybe finish?

all in all 不错的图,我觉得比夏祭做的好啊
star
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

LKs wrote:

Wishmaster gothic metal rock 写在source里面 并不是series或game,觉得不合适
musci track=1.5~2秒 fixed

normal+

作为normal+也难了,改为hard,再增加一个normal难度会更好 有犯懒的因素。。。不过这个作为Hard不会过简单么。。。Edit:恩,还是加了个难度……
[00:13:40] no clap. use finish fixed
[00:19:67] add finish fixed
[00;45:06] 声音下降一格,有点大了 fixed,不过没降那么多= =
[01:03:88] ^ ^
[01:48:28] add a note fixed
[02:12:00] no whistle 这个个人感觉还是whistle更好。。。
[02:38:08] 这里用kiai不太好,因为这里是soft音效 其实insane也是的。。。本意就是高潮一normal高潮二soft。。。
[02:51:20] spacing太近了 fixed

insane
建议,或许做图多一点折返式slider会更好
[00:07:91] 之前的渐强音用的不错,这里也用一下 fixed
[00:25:59] no clap. use finish fixed
[01:14:56] maybe finish? soft的finish插进去不好听。提前用normal感觉怪怪的

all in all 不错的图,我觉得比夏祭做的好啊
star
LKs
OMG..没注意你写的。。
希望多关注一下timing……
timing没问题,offest我感觉不错的。
position of preview point 是不是应该等于[01:29:079]
BPM=153 and resnap all notes(suggestion
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

LKs wrote:

OMG..没注意你写的。。
希望多关注一下timing……
timing没问题,offest我感觉不错的。
position of preview point 是不是应该等于[01:29:079]
BPM=153 and resnap all notes(suggestion
BPM=153后面的音就失准了,原因不详……所以我才比较困扰timing问题。。。毕竟有个零头总觉得会有点别扭。。。
LKs

NatsumeRin wrote:

BPM=153后面的音就失准了,原因不详……所以我才比较困扰timing问题。。。毕竟有个零头总觉得会有点别扭。。。
是吗。。如果是这样的话就不用改
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=13795
来这里问一下
iDwarf
>Requested Timing Mod<

~Overall~
  1. Add "Wishmaster Album" as a source
  2. Delete "wishmaster" tag
  3. I suggest to add 3rd combo color (Gray or Red)
  4. I have +1 or 2 ms

Star~


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Ask for re-mod, if you want Thunderstorm to check your map.
Thunderstorm
requested Mod session
Some suggestions
[Normal]
01:40:841 - spacing (no jumps on normal D:)

[Hard]
Slider tick rate 2?

Rest seems fine

BMP=153.07 (your 153.03)
Offset is fine, but on chorus it mistimising about 10 ms late

That's all

~star
JamesLeao
Insane:
01:28:099 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 我觉得这里那么小声的话,不如弄个slider(建议

Hard:
Fine

Normal:
Fine

没什么很严重的地方,我也不想挑刺,Good Luck
Teara
Nice, nothing major, but take a look at these please :)

Star for a good beatmap

[General]

Delete the .osb

Combo colours~ I personally dislike black/white combo colours, but in this case, try these

white/gray ( makes it a lot easier to see the approach circle. )

Combo1 : 128,128,128
Combo2 : 255,255,255

[Normal]

Reduce slider tick.

00:41:245 (3) - Should start on the red tick? (00:41:049)
00:59:281 (2) - New combo? maybe
gdeath
timing is enough fine.
i just come to shoot my star for you since jamesleao already modded it.
Arusha Shuna
Request Accepted

Normal
00:13:016 (4) - make it in-line w/ 00:12:232 (3)
00:23:994 (2) - move 1 tiny grid left
00:38:893 (1) - make this slider symmetry
00:53:008 (5) - move 1 tiny grid right
01:44:762 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - :3 nice mapping for normal diff
Hard
00:59:281 (2) - symmetry
02:18:284 (3) - move to the previous red tick? it follows the vocal better
Insane
8-)

A fine beatmap :D
STAR!
Leorda
NI HAO!

[General]
1) Source?

[Normal]
~Timing~
00:01:744 (T) - Snap the green timing section here
00:03:704 (T) - ^
00:04:880 (T) - ^
00:06:841 (T) - ^
01:14:866 (T) - ^
01:16:434 (T) - ^
01:25:844 (T) - ^
01:33:882 (T) - ^
01:35:254 (T) - ^
01:40:155 (T) - ^
01:41:625 (T) - ^
01:46:428 (T) - ^
01:47:800 (T) - ^
01:52:505 (T) - ^
01:54:172 (T) - ^


~Hitsound~
00:24:778 (1) - Add a finish hitsound
00:57:713 (1) - Add a finish hitsound at the start of slider
01:03:986 (1) - ^
01:07:122 (1) - ^
01:13:396 (3) - ^
01:22:805 (1) - Add a finish hitsound
01:32:215 (1) - Add a finish hitsound at the start of slider
01:44:762 (1) - Add a finish hitsound

[Hard]
~Timing~
00:01:744 (T) - Snap the green timing section here
00:03:704 (T) - ^
00:04:880 (T) - ^
00:06:841 (T) - ^
00:23:504 (T) - ^
01:07:024 (T) - ^
01:16:434 (T) - ^
01:25:844 (T) - ^
01:28:099 (T) - ^
01:28:295 (T) - ^
01:28:491 (T) - ^
01:28:687 (T) - ^
01:28:883 (T) - ^
01:33:882 (T) - ^
01:35:254 (T) - ^
01:40:155 (T) - ^
01:41:625 (T) - ^
01:46:428 (T) - ^
01:47:800 (T) - ^
01:52:505 (T) - ^
02:03:483 (T) - ^
02:03:876 (T) - ^
02:04:268 (T) - ^
02:04:660 (T) - ^
02:05:052 (T) - ^
02:06:718 (T) - ^
02:16:030 (T) - ^
02:23:871 (T) - ^
02:25:440 (T) - ^
02:34:850 (T) - ^
02:36:614 (T) - ^
02:37:398 (T) - ^
02:38:084 (T) - ^
03:03:177 (T) - ^


~Hitsound~
00:16:937 (1) - Add a finish hitsound at the start of slider
01:22:805 (1) - ^
01:25:942 (1) - ^
01:26:530 (2) - ^
01:27:118 (3) - ^
01:32:215 (1) - ^
01:35:352 (1) - ^
01:38:489 (1) - ^
01:40:057 (3) - Add a finish hitsound
02:06:718 (1) - Add a finish hitsound at the start of slider
02:23:969 (3,4,5,6) - Add a finish hitsound
02:28:674 (1) - Add a finish hitsound at the start of slider
02:31:811 (1) - Add a finish hitsound
02:34:948 (1) - ^
02:35:536 (3) - ^
02:44:357 (1) - ^
02:47:494 (6) - Add a finish hitsound at the start of slider
02:53:767 (1) - ^
02:56:904 (1) - Add a finish hitsound


[Insane]
~Timing~
00:01:744 (T) - Snap the green timing section here
00:03:704 (T) - ^
00:04:880 (T) - ^
01:14:866 (T) - ^
01:16:434 (T) - ^
01:28:099 (T) - ^
01:28:295 (T) - ^
01:28:491 (T) - ^
01:28:687 (T) - ^
01:28:883 (T) - ^
01:33:882 (T) - ^
01:35:254 (T) - ^
01:40:155 (T) - ^
01:41:625 (T) - ^
01:46:428 (T) - ^
01:47:800 (T) - ^
01:52:505 (T) - ^
02:03:483 (T) - ^
02:03:876 (T) - ^
02:04:268 (T) - ^
02:04:660 (T) - ^
02:05:052 (T) - ^
02:06:718 (T) - ^
02:12:893 (T) - ^
02:16:030 (T) - ^
02:23:871 (T) - ^
02:25:440 (T) - ^
02:34:850 (T) - ^
02:36:614 (T) - ^
02:37:398 (T) - ^
02:38:084 (T) - ^


~Hitsound~
00:16:937 (1) - Add a finish hitsound at the start of slider
00:20:073 (1) - ^
00:38:893 (1) - ^
01:22:805 (1) - ^
01:25:942 (1) - Add a finish hitsound
01:26:530 (3) - ^
01:35:352 (1) - Add a finish hitsound at the start of slider
02:28:674 (1) - ^


Not bad
STAR
SamiPale
mod迟了不好意思,既然timing好了我就挑一下好了


Normal
01:26:530(1) - 你想(1)在play的时候站在正中间的话,就把他移下1 grid(gird lv2)
01:46:918(x) - Add a circle
01:47:898(x) - Add a circle
上面的两个circle要加就一起加

Hard
note没snap好
01:53:387(1) - 同Normal

Insane
note没snap好
02:56:904(x) - Add a circle
02:57:296(x) - Add a circle
03:02:393(1) - 同Hard


SPOILER
要挑刺的确是有不少可以挑的,总体感觉玩得就像自己是个人工节拍器
fartownik
Capitalize the title.

[Insane]

03:06:314 (1,2,3) - IMO it's too loud. The finish is enough in this case, please lower the volume. Do the same in [Hard] too.

I don't know about the timing at all, sadly it might be off. Ask someone good in timing to check it.
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin
all fixed except for the many green timing sections....
because most of them are just for hitsounds, so i just resnap sections around kiai time.
Breeze
只用红色部分是我觉得你应该改的,其他都只是建议

[Timing]
  1. BPM : 153.05
  2. Offset : 878
    记得resnap all note,还有让timing section对准时间线(至少让kiai设置的对准)
[General]
  1. osb文件没有用,请删掉再full-submit
  2. 我觉得没必要使用audio lead-in,当然要用的话也没问题
[Normal]
  1. 00:45:161 (1,3,5,7) - 这里的clap放在(2,4,6)和7的结尾比较合适,我给你的timing已经把长白线对准鼓声,对着鼓声所在白线下clap不会错的,不过也只是建议,你这么放clap听起也顺
  2. 00:54:573 (1-6) - 这里就是对准长白线,然后每2条白线的clap,这个就很好
  3. 01:05:946 (3) - 加clap?
  4. 01:29:074 (T) - 在这个timing section之前设一个和这个音量设置一样的timing section,不过不用设KIAI,因为有音量变化
  5. 01:33:887 (T) - 为什么这里要降低音量呢?
  6. 01:35:357 (1-6) - 这里clap有点乱...以01:35:749为开始,每隔2条白线放一个clap,即:
    01:35:749 (1), 01:36:534 (2), 01:37:318 (3), 01:38:102 (4), 01:38:887 这里没note,不放clap或者设SB clap, 01:39:671 (5)
  7. 01:41:632 (1...) - 这一串从(2开始加clap : )
[Hard]
  1. Slider Tick Rate : 2
  2. 00:08:298 (3,4) - 这里slider结尾的clap听着不是那么顺 :/
  3. 01:33:897 (T) - 仍然不知道为什么这里要降低音量
  4. 02:18:495 (4) - 往左边一格(lv3)
    有些地方clap我也建议每隔2条白线放一个,不过这难度按背景重音加clap的方法也很不错
[Insane]
  1. 02:06:338 (10-11) - 这2个clap太奇怪了,去掉吧
nice map
改好后PM我,差不多可以pubble了 : )
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

Breeze wrote:

只用红色部分是我觉得你应该改的,其他都只是建议

[Timing]
  1. BPM : 153.05
  2. Offset : 878
    记得resnap all note,还有让timing section对准时间线(至少让kiai设置的对准)
我觉得这个BPM & offset 更不合适……试了很多次,都不行。

[General]
  1. osb文件没有用,请删掉再full-submit fixed
  2. 我觉得没必要使用audio lead-in,当然要用的话也没问题
减到了1秒

[Normal]
  1. 00:45:161 (1,3,5,7) - 这里的clap放在(2,4,6)和7的结尾比较合适,我给你的timing已经把长白线对准鼓声,对着鼓声所在白线下clap不会错的,不过也只是建议,你这么放clap听起也顺 这里没改
  2. 00:54:573 (1-6) - 这里就是对准长白线,然后每2条白线的clap,这个就很好 谢谢= =
  3. 01:05:946 (3) - 加clap? 没加,这里作为slider可以顿一下,折射到taiko里是9hits黄条,都无伤。
  4. 01:29:074 (T) - 在这个timing section之前设一个和这个音量设置一样的timing section,不过不用设KIAI,因为有音量变化 fixed
  5. 01:33:887 (T) - 为什么这里要降低音量呢? 改掉了
  6. 01:35:357 (1-6) - 这里clap有点乱...以01:35:749为开始,每隔2条白线放一个clap,即:
    01:35:749 (1), 01:36:534 (2), 01:37:318 (3), 01:38:102 (4), 01:38:887 这里没note,不放clap或者设SB clap, 01:39:671 (5)
    采用的是o o o x o o x o这个节奏,接的折返slider恰好是x o o所以感觉有点乱?但是并不打算改成千篇一律的节奏形式。
  7. 01:41:632 (1...) - 这一串从(2开始加clap : )
改了1:46:227(2)这个音为clap,前面维持的节奏同上。

[Hard]
  1. Slider Tick Rate : 2 fixed。这样在各模式上都更顺。
  2. 00:08:298 (3,4) - 这里slider结尾的clap听着不是那么顺 :/ 没动,尽管我也觉得有点但是全normal更糟糕。。。
  3. 01:33:897 (T) - 仍然不知道为什么这里要降低音量 fixed
  4. 02:18:495 (4) - 往左边一格(lv3) 没动,维持和(6)对称位,(3)是我故意往左拉了一格的。
    有些地方clap我也建议每隔2条白线放一个,不过这难度按背景重音加clap的方法也很不错
[Insane]
  1. 02:06:338 (10-11) - 这2个clap太奇怪了,去掉吧
和之前(4-5)是对应音,没有动

nice map
改好后PM我,差不多可以pubble了 : )
Breeze
Timing看来还需要专业点的人再看看
请比较在行timing的人check下我再pubble把 : )
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

Breeze wrote:

Timing看来还需要专业点的人再看看
请比较在行timing的人check下我再pubble把 : )
恩,还有两个外面的timing request,再等等好了……
试了很多都觉得别扭。。。或许我该分段调BPM么= =。。。
youngdow
Rin is my sin //ㅁ//
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

youngdow wrote:

Rin is my sin //ㅁ//
wwwwwww
Vanmonky
As your request.

Read this first for the icon explanation.
- [?] Asking for a second thought.
- [!] Fatal error. You have to fix this for sure.
- [No icon] Only a suggestion.

[General]
1. BPM: 153 | Offset: 1,235. Remember to resnap all notes. [!]
2. Move "Wishmaster" from tags to Source. It's the album of this song.
3. Delete .osb file from map's folder.

[Normal]
Nice. Will be better if you map all the song. I love it.

[Hard]
Good.

[Insane]
02:52:193 (1) - It looks like 1/4 stream for me. I know it's a pattern, but it's distracting me. Well, maybe it's just me. But, I don't know what people will say, I just want to say what I need to tell. Move it somewhere.
02:57:290 (1) - ^
Star. Call me back for pubble.
Diasios
BPM: 153 || Offset: 1245 (resnap all notes)

Nice map :P
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

VanMoNky wrote:

As your request.

Read this first for the icon explanation.
- [?] Asking for a second thought.
- [!] Fatal error. You have to fix this for sure.
- [No icon] Only a suggestion.

[General]
1. BPM: 153 | Offset: 1,235. Remember to resnap all notes. [!] find a new timing, the main change is BPM reset at 3:03:182, 153 is not exactly, i still think it's about 153.02. anyway it should work fine now.
2. Move "Wishmaster" from tags to Source. It's the album of this song. http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24765 Album title doesn't belong to "source"
3. Delete .osb file from map's folder. = =but i don't have it in my folder

[Normal]
Nice. Will be better if you map all the song. I love it. thanks but i think a normal should not be that long..

[Hard]
Good.

[Insane]
02:52:193 (1) - It looks like 1/4 stream for me. I know it's a pattern, but it's distracting me. Well, maybe it's just me. But, I don't know what people will say, I just want to say what I need to tell. Move it somewhere.
02:57:290 (1) - ^
Star. Call me back for pubble.
Vanmonky

NatsumeRin wrote:

As your request.

Read this first for the icon explanation.
- [?] Asking for a second thought.
- [!] Fatal error. You have to fix this for sure.
- [No icon] Only a suggestion.

[General]
1. BPM: 153 | Offset: 1,235. Remember to resnap all notes. [!] find a new timing, the main change is BPM reset at 3:03:182, 153 is not exactly, i still think it's about 153.02. anyway it should work fine now.
Well, it's okay if you feel so.. I'm afraid the pubble or even bubble will popped cause this timing. Did you use BPM Analyzer? Don't trust it so much.
2. Move "Wishmaster" from tags to Source. It's the album of this song. http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24765 Album title doesn't belong to "source"
Oh, well, okay I accept it.
3. Delete .osb file from map's folder. = =but i don't have it in my folder
But I have it in my folder..

[Normal]
Nice. Will be better if you map all the song. I love it. thanks but i think a normal should not be that long..

[Hard]
Good.

[Insane]
02:52:193 (1) - It looks like 1/4 stream for me. I know it's a pattern, but it's distracting me. Well, maybe it's just me. But, I don't know what people will say, I just want to say what I need to tell. Move it somewhere.
02:57:290 (1) - ^
Star. Call me back for pubble.
Well, it's okay now. Proto bubbled.
Lybydose
popping proto-bubble for now

I came here to check the timing but I only get a 7KB file when I download it. Try doing a full resubmission.
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

Lybydose wrote:

popping proto-bubble for now

I came here to check the timing but I only get a 7KB file when I download it. Try doing a full resubmission.
re full-submitted.
Lybydose
*sigh*

BPM: 153 Offset: 1243

This covers the entire map up until the end. This song does not keep totally perfect time, but it's obviously following a 153 BPM metronome. With your timing I was hitting slightly early at the beginning of the song and slightly late towards the end.

You'll need more sections to cover the end:

BPM: 153 Offset: 183,963
BPM: 153 Offset: 184,343
BPM: 153 Offset: 184,735 (this last one is just setting the metronome right)
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

Lybydose wrote:

*sigh*

Current timing: BPM 153.01 Offset:1243

BPM: 153 Offset: 1243 after tests, i still think it's about 153.01-153.02, not perfectly 153, and for offset, 1243 is little early for me...but i see most of you tend to get a offset between 1240-1245 so i decided to take this offset

This covers the entire map up until the end. This song does not keep totally perfect time, but it's obviously following a 153 BPM metronome. With your timing I was hitting slightly early at the beginning of the song and slightly late towards the end.

You'll need more sections to cover the end:

BPM: 153 Offset: 183,963
BPM: 153 Offset: 184,343
BPM: 153 Offset: 184,735 (this last one is just setting the metronome right)
i don't think this is needed...believe me.
Tonoko
Rin is my sin :oops: 忘记来了

我主要在意的是 "是否美观好看"

hard
01:44:571 这个似乎后移到01:44:767 好一点
03:07:885 (1,2,3,4) - 最后这4个应该是一组的 把这几个的形状弄对称一点吧 现在怪怪的...

insane
01:14:554 这个感觉是和后面的4个为一组而不是前面的,combo改一改吧.可以的话可以把这个放到中间或者中间顶部 后面的4个跳围绕这个排列.
02:23:588 ^
03:02:410 (1) - 上移一点点 :P

:P rin 好厉害
Topic Starter
NatsumeRin

Tonoko wrote:

Rin is my sin :oops: 忘记来了

我主要在意的是 "是否美观好看"

hard
01:44:571 这个似乎后移到01:44:767 好一点 没变……我试了几次,感觉还是现在这样我听着顺些。。
03:07:885 (1,2,3,4) - 最后这4个应该是一组的 把这几个的形状弄对称一点吧 现在怪怪的... 改掉了= =

insane
01:14:554 这个感觉是和后面的4个为一组而不是前面的,combo改一改吧.可以的话可以把这个放到中间或者中间顶部 后面的4个跳围绕这个排列. 按小节线排的new combos,而且这样更遵循“jump需要new combo特别标出”
02:23:588 ^ 同上
03:02:410 (1) - 上移一点点 :P 这个位置也是samipale教我的= =实际打时这样会重合在正中心,而Edit里放在正中打时则会偏一点……~

:P rin 好厉害
谢谢= =~~
Lizbeth
Insane
01:28:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this sound good with normal hitsounds and find it more playable.. but is just a commet, do whatever u want
01:53:786 (10) - add repeat
01:28:101 - this timing section is on top of a note

Hard
02:06:726 - this timing section is on top of a note

Normal
I find this too hard for a norml diff. consider decreasing overal diff and slider velocity a bit. and make circle size bigger
01:41:630 - this timing section is on top of a note

good luck =)
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