Harada Hitomi - Kyoumei No True Force · forum

KSHR

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KSHR 2014-09-12T11:30:39+00:00

Sellenite wrote:
iMage-- wrote:
Gratz!!!
plz no unrank
i hope so ;w;

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KaedekaShizuru

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KaedekaShizuru 2014-09-12T11:33:19+00:00

恭喜哇恭喜哇

Rizia

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Rizia 2014-09-12T11:33:25+00:00

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yf_bmp

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Gratz

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-12T11:44:47+00:00

KSHR wrote:
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Kawaiwkyik wrote:
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打死柚子

yf_bmp wrote:
Gratz

thx~

KaedekaShizuru wrote:
恭喜哇恭喜哇

谢谢~

Narcissu wrote:
哀悼快絕種的4星圖……

sad

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Awaken

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Awaken 2014-09-12T13:58:17+00:00

我草竟然rank这么快我本来还想rank的时候我第一个4modSS夺人生第一个也是可以永远保持的#1

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-12T14:06:40+00:00

Awaken wrote:
我草竟然rank这么快我本来还想rank的时候我第一个4modSS夺人生第一个也是可以永远保持的#1

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Starfy

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Starfy 2014-09-12T14:31:24+00:00

Ranked \;D/
Congratz

Crystal

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Crystal 2014-09-12T14:42:46+00:00

congratz

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-12T16:21:20+00:00

StarForYou wrote:
Ranked \;D/
Congratz

[_Crystal] wrote:
congratz

Thank you ww >.<

Sellenite

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Rizia

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Rizia 2014-09-13T07:47:40+00:00

p3n

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p3n 2014-09-15T18:03:34+00:00

<Unrankable Issue>
Two inherited timing section at 00:37:435 - in wkyik's Insane.

<Concerns / Suggestions>
[General]
It's hard to read objects because of red combo color similar to BG.

[KwaN's Normal]
00:59:036 - The rhythm would sound better if an extra note is added here to follow the drum line.

[wkyik's Insane]
00:16:955 (1) - This whole section is inaudible
00:29:275 (4) - hidden repeat arrow
01:15:356 (5) - The slider reverse is hidden by the score burst of 01:14:876 (3) - . This has not been stated in the Ranking Criteria as a rule, but it'd be better to fix in my opinion.
01:19:516 (3) - if possible, increase readability of this slider
01:29:596 (3) - note should have been in the middle of the playfield?

[True Dance]
00:09:915 (3) - An unnecessary clap.

From the discussion:

About the "true dance" diff (which should at least be called true force to go with the song), the spacing in general is way too big and absolutely erratic (00:08:955 (4,1) - massive jump then 00:09:275 (1,2) - normal spacing then 00:10:235 (6,1) - massive counterflowing jump then 00:10:555 (1,2) - massive flowing jump then 00:10:875 (2,3) - no more jump) so much so that it's impossible to tell rhythms from spacing alone, and and AR 9.5 is very unfitting. The SV changes are random (see 00:08:315 (2,4) - ) and most rhythms are blatantly overmapped (00:09:275 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - etc). I really think that this shouldn't be ranked at all, it's nowhere near good enough for that.

In addition to the suggestions and the unrankable issues, 'True Dance' difficulty needs more input from the modding community before this mapset can be considered for a re-qualification.

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2014-09-15T18:23:03+00:00

SPOILER

osu file format v13

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Replacement of 00:58:876 (4) by a 1/2 slider
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Yukii

9 posts

Joined January 2014

Yukii 2014-09-16T00:25:55+00:00

I just got 117 pp form this song and now i lost my score T_T NUU i didnt notice any problems with the map it was fun :/

Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2014-09-16T01:36:12+00:00

p3n wrote:
<Unrankable Issue>
Two inherited timing section at 00:37:435 - in wkyik's Insane.

oh no!!!! it's my wrong~~~OAO
only fixed unrankable issue...

31321

osu file format v13

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PreviewTime: 47995
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SampleSet: Soft
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Title:Kyoumei No True Force
TitleUnicode:共鳴のTrue Force
Artist:Harada Hitomi
ArtistUnicode:原田ひとみ
Creator:Sellenite
Version:wkyik's Insane
Source:精霊使いの剣舞
Tags:Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance opening Awaken Kawaiwkyik Fycho Minakami Yuki IamKwaN
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316,328,64796,2,0,P|360:308|408:276,1,85,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,192,65116,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,144,65276,1,10,0:0:0:0:
292,144,65436,1,0,0:0:0:0:
391,288,65596,6,0,P|456:292|524:192,2,170,0|10|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,144,66396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
316,236,66556,2,0,P|320:284|304:360,1,85,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,364,66876,5,0,0:0:0:0:
108,348,67036,1,2,0:0:0:0:
44,256,67196,1,8,0:0:0:0:
212,381,67356,5,0,0:0:0:0:
93,363,67516,1,2,0:0:0:0:
22,262,67676,1,0,0:0:0:0:
164,232,67836,6,0,P|192:188|204:128,1,85,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,48,68156,1,0,0:0:0:0:
52,92,68316,1,0,0:0:0:0:
56,116,68396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
60,140,68476,1,10,0:0:0:0:
228,152,68636,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,48,68796,5,0,0:0:0:0:
64,160,68956,1,8,0:0:0:0:
252,272,69116,1,10,0:0:0:0:
68,180,69276,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,288,69436,6,0,P|252:364|244:412,1,85,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,252,69756,2,0,P|364:176|372:128,1,85,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,324,70076,1,0,0:0:0:0:
268,308,70236,1,0,0:0:0:0:
456,224,70396,1,8,0:0:0:0:
352,288,70556,6,0,P|340:344|336:376,1,85,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
456,224,70876,1,0,0:0:0:0:
252,208,71036,2,0,P|203:239|178:258,2,85,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,71516,1,0,0:0:0:0:
284,364,71676,1,10,0:0:0:0:
320,144,71836,1,0,0:0:0:0:
456,224,71996,6,0,P|352:200|268:188,1,170,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,236,72476,2,0,P|176:288|168:332,1,85,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,364,72796,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,176,72956,2,0,P|268:124|260:80,1,85,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,56,73276,5,0,0:0:0:0:
84,160,73436,1,2,0:0:0:0:
188,236,73596,2,0,L|284:224,1,85,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,188,73916,1,0,0:0:0:0:
468,292,74076,1,0,0:0:0:0:
364,368,74236,2,0,L|268:356,1,85,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,340,74556,5,0,0:0:0:0:
96,364,74716,1,0,0:0:0:0:
188,236,74876,1,10,0:0:0:0:
96,364,75036,2,0,P|104:304|104:248,1,85,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,152,75356,2,0,P|188:212|188:268,2,85,0|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,56,75836,5,0,0:0:0:0:
296,136,75996,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,44,76156,1,10,0:0:0:0:
264,228,76316,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,160,76476,2,0,L|48:152|-8:144,1,85,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,268,76796,1,8,0:0:0:0:
264,228,76956,1,2,0:0:0:0:
104,160,77116,6,0,P|88:224|84:364,1,170,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,372,77596,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,228,77756,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,268,77916,1,2,0:0:0:0:
184,160,78076,2,0,P|192:108|192:64,1,85,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,52,78396,5,0,0:0:0:0:
376,140,78556,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,228,78716,1,8,0:0:0:0:
376,140,78876,1,2,0:0:0:0:
440,224,79036,6,0,L|432:372,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,360,79276,2,0,L|345:258,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
267,177,79516,2,0,L|263:248,1,50.9999984436036,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,312,79676,6,0,P|184:320|144:324,1,85,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,228,79996,2,0,P|316:220|356:216,1,85,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,228,80316,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,300,80476,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,124,80636,1,8,0:0:0:0:
460,228,80796,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,288,80956,6,0,P|204:280|104:276,1,170,4|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,96,81436,2,0,P|308:104|408:108,1,170,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,228,81916,2,0,P|464:288|464:352,1,85,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,368,82236,5,0,0:0:0:0:
280,288,82396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
460,228,82556,1,10,0:0:0:0:
312,300,82716,5,0,0:0:0:0:
400,144,82876,1,2,0:0:0:0:
416,328,83036,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,192,83196,1,8,0:0:0:0:
476,240,83356,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,328,83516,6,0,P|236:356|116:348,1,170,4|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,268,83996,2,0,P|64:220|72:168,1,85,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,156,84316,2,0,P|196:108|188:56,2,85,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,256,84796,6,0,P|224:308|352:296,1,170,4|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
412,268,85276,2,0,P|408:208|404:168,1,85,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,88,85596,2,0,P|244:148|248:188,1,85,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,260,85916,1,2,0:0:0:0:
224,336,86076,6,0,P|176:328|52:332,1,170,4|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,236,86556,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,348,86716,2,0,P|260:352|335:350,1,85,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,304,87036,1,10,0:0:0:0:
392,196,87196,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,296,87356,5,12,0:0:0:0:
152,232,87516,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,88,87676,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,152,87836,1,12,0:0:0:0:
360,192,88156,5,0,0:0:0:0:
171,253,88316,1,12,0:0:0:0:
288,93,88476,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,290,88636,1,0,0:0:0:0:
171,130,88796,1,12,0:0:0:0:
200,96,89116,5,12,0:0:0:0:
320,264,89276,1,6,0:0:0:0:
24,32,89596,1,12,0:0:0:0:

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-16T02:38:47+00:00

OMG

Koiyuki

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Koiyuki 2014-09-16T02:48:40+00:00

p3n wrote:
[True Dance]
00:09:915 (3) - An unnecessary clap. sounds not good, i keep it

From the discussion:
About the "true dance" diff (which should at least be called true force to go with the song), the spacing in general is way too big and absolutely erratic (00:08:955 (4,1) - massive jump then 00:09:275 (1,2) - normal spacing then 00:10:235 (6,1) - massive counterflowing jump then 00:10:555 (1,2) - massive flowing jump then 00:10:875 (2,3) - no more jump) so much so that it's impossible to tell rhythms from spacing alone, and and AR 9.5 is very unfitting. The SV changes are random (see 00:08:315 (2,4) - ) and most rhythms are blatantly overmapped (00:09:275 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - etc). I really think that this shouldn't be ranked at all, it's nowhere near good enough for that.
hmm, I post my own opinion on that, 00:07:995 (1,2,3,4) - as an example, although there are sv changes, but it's not unreadable and sv dont change very fiercely, also, they are slider 1/4 jumps, which is much easier to reach than 1/4 circle jump. The flow is not very hard to get since it's an really Extra diff.

About the diff name, I dont know if you have watched the anime... also the anime has 'blade dance' in its title, I think the diff naming as 'true dance' is not only fit the song also fit the diff itself, which shows it's really hard than Extra.

About overmap, I admit that I have used some 1/4 streams and 3/4 slider jumps and other, but they all fit the song imo, also let the map with more plentiful rhythm, they are fine imo.

In addition to the suggestions and the unrankable issues, 'True Dance' difficulty needs more input from the modding community before this mapset can be considered for a re-qualification.

Also thanks for modding, p3n!
If it needs more modding, I will let it has better quality, although I think it's good and fun for playing now

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-16T03:46:55+00:00

p3n wrote:
<Unrankable Issue>
Two inherited timing section at 00:37:435 - in wkyik's Insane. fixed

<Concerns / Suggestions>
[General]
It's hard to read objects because of red combo color similar to BG. actually i set color depend on the anime character‘s hair color，and i very like this.Although kasa tell me this，but actually i is easy to see or play，many can fc and even ss

In addition to the suggestions and the unrankable issues, 'True Dance' difficulty needs more input from the modding community before this mapset can be considered for a re-qualification. actually i am also a modder，i am responsible to say this diff is very good enough even if my skill is not good as a BAT，but i kinda like this

Thanks for suggestion，p3n！
fixed unrankable issue in insane and some stuff in normal
updated

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-16T05:28:30+00:00

clam2

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captin1

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captin1 2014-09-16T05:43:06+00:00

True Dance is really fun, I'm sorry that those comments were made about it. I would consider the map quite good as is, although would prefer to see AR 9.3 on there instead, would feel more comfortable imo.

Koiyuki

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Koiyuki 2014-09-16T05:47:41+00:00

Thanks captin! Change ar to 9.3 is ok

~~although I prefer ar9.5 haha~~
@sellenite help me to change ar to 9.3

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-16T05:54:29+00:00

changed to ar 9.3
i am glad to see it is still a very good diff.

Nymph

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Nymph 2014-09-16T06:12:18+00:00

ok rebubbled.

Crystal

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Crystal 2014-09-16T12:10:17+00:00

omg

Atrue

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Atrue 2014-09-16T14:13:15+00:00

After IRC mod..Ok~ Time to get it qualified.

Congratulations!
Re-Qualified~

irc log

2014-09-16 21:08 Atrue: 我还是打打低难度
2014-09-16 21:09 Atrue: 反正之前大家都看过了应该问题不太大
2014-09-16 21:09 Sellenite: 打不动啦
2014-09-16 21:09 Sellenite: 我觉得这diff很不错啊
2014-09-16 21:09 Atrue: 跳还不错,初步感觉
2014-09-16 21:11 Atrue: 突然出现的ar3 233
2014-09-16 21:11 Sellenite: 233
2014-09-16 21:11 Atrue: 不错啊，不过我可能还有点小建议~
2014-09-16 21:13 Sellenite: 好啊
2014-09-16 21:13 Sellenite: 没问题
2014-09-16 21:13 Atrue: （上个厕所QAQ
2014-09-16 21:13 Atrue: 抱歉啦
2014-09-16 21:13 Sellenite: 柚子这个真的神diff，没好说的
2014-09-16 21:13 Sellenite: QAQ
2014-09-16 21:13 Atrue: 恩、
2014-09-16 21:20 Atrue: gogogo
2014-09-16 21:20 Sellenite: go
2014-09-16 21:20 Atrue: 其实柚子的diff有地方可以说，不过似乎也是有意为之
2014-09-16 21:21 Sellenite: 哪里
2014-09-16 21:22 Atrue: 一会说~
2014-09-16 21:23 Atrue: 飞秋没啥问题，不过好像有些地方碰血条了= =
2014-09-16 21:23 Sellenite: 是吗..
2014-09-16 21:23 Atrue: 这个能改还是改。。就挪一点的事。。
2014-09-16 21:23 Sellenite: 不过p3n就指出那个unrank而已
2014-09-16 21:24 Atrue: 是的
2014-09-16 21:24 Atrue: 不是unrank的问题（其实估计他没检查到
2014-09-16 21:24 Sellenite: 嘛要改的话我问问飞球
2014-09-16 21:28 Atrue: 低难度没啥要说的~
2014-09-16 21:29 Sellenite: 恩
2014-09-16 21:29 Atrue: metadata应该没啥问题吧QAQ
2014-09-16 21:29 Sellenite: 没问题
2014-09-16 21:29 Sellenite: melo修过了
2014-09-16 21:30 Atrue: okie~
2014-09-16 21:30 Sellenite: 就只要最高难度要改一下？
2014-09-16 21:30 Atrue: 我看看,其实没准不用改
2014-09-16 21:31 Sellenite: 恩
2014-09-16 21:34 Atrue: 01:16:156 (3) - 最高难度
2014-09-16 21:34 Atrue: 这里还是碰血条啊
2014-09-16 21:35 Sellenite: 我帮他移近点？
2014-09-16 21:35 Sellenite: 大概在哪个坐标
2014-09-16 21:35 Atrue: 我看看怎么搞法
2014-09-16 21:35 Atrue: 简单往下一点就差不多
2014-09-16 21:36 Sellenite: 93,126可以吗
2014-09-16 21:37 Atrue: 好
2014-09-16 21:37 Sellenite: ok
2014-09-16 21:39 Sellenite: 01:14:236 (11) - 其实这个有没有问题
2014-09-16 21:39 Atrue: 00:48:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - 其实我的建议是这几个间距小一点跟前边的强音做对比
2014-09-16 21:39 Atrue: 这里毕竟还是弱
2014-09-16 21:39 Sellenite: 是啊我跟老m说了
2014-09-16 21:39 Sellenite: 他说保持
2014-09-16 21:40 Atrue: ah我换diff了,到了ex
2014-09-16 21:40 Sellenite: 这很小间距了啊QAQ
2014-09-16 21:40 Sellenite: 已经缩了一半了
2014-09-16 21:40 Sellenite: 以前更大...
2014-09-16 21:41 Sellenite: 是个X星标，修完就被I了
2014-09-16 21:41 Atrue: 好好
2014-09-16 21:41 Atrue: 你自己晓得就好
2014-09-16 21:42 Sellenite: 恩
2014-09-16 21:43 Atrue: 01:19:036 (1,2,3) - 柚子我想吐槽的地方是这里间距拉近一点好读
2014-09-16 21:43 Sellenite: 这个好像是p3n说过
2014-09-16 21:43 Sellenite: 我看看
2014-09-16 21:44 Sellenite: http://puu.sh/bBkyw/a6e347bb10.png
2014-09-16 21:45 Sellenite: 好像是不同的方面
2014-09-16 21:45 Sellenite: 不过玩的时候没什么问题，很容易读
2014-09-16 21:45 Atrue: 好好好~ww
2014-09-16 21:45 Sellenite: 可能柚子想跳一下吧，我觉得挺爽的
2014-09-16 21:45 Atrue: 恩
2014-09-16 21:46 Atrue: 难度可能偏向难了一点,跟diff的其他部分比起来
2014-09-16 21:46 Atrue: 好,老飞秋的图
2014-09-16 21:46 Sellenite: spread没问题吧？
2014-09-16 21:46 Atrue: 我觉得好几个地方打血条了啊
2014-09-16 21:46 Atrue: spread没问题
2014-09-16 21:46 Sellenite: hard到insane
2014-09-16 21:46 Sellenite: ok
2014-09-16 21:46 Sellenite: 提一下我看看能不能我自己改
2014-09-16 21:47 Atrue: 没问题,这个spread我觉得还是在合理范围内的
2014-09-16 21:48 Atrue: 00:57:596 (3) - 
2014-09-16 21:48 Atrue: 略高了一点
2014-09-16 21:48 Sellenite: 啊我这边打台风
2014-09-16 21:48 Sellenite: 经常断网
2014-09-16 21:48 Sellenite: 刚刚有没有说什么？
2014-09-16 21:48 Atrue: 没有
2014-09-16 21:48 Atrue: 00:57:596 (3) - 
2014-09-16 21:49 Atrue: 这个略高了一点
2014-09-16 21:49 Sellenite: 37,72？
2014-09-16 21:49 Sellenite: 上面那个
2014-09-16 21:50 Atrue: 好像flow就有变化了..问问他把
2014-09-16 21:50 Sellenite: 好的
2014-09-16 21:51 Atrue: (我也在问
2014-09-16 21:51 Atrue: ww
2014-09-16 21:52 Sellenite: ww
2014-09-16 21:53 Sellenite: 放到40,56了
2014-09-16 21:53 Atrue: 恩
2014-09-16 21:54 Atrue: 恩其他的还有一处我跟fy说了,他看看怎么搞
2014-09-16 21:54 Atrue: 好应该没啥了
2014-09-16 21:54 Atrue: 我看看有没有漏掉的什么东西
2014-09-16 21:55 Sellenite: 好的
2014-09-16 21:55 Sellenite: 01:19:036 (1) - 这个？
2014-09-16 21:56 Atrue: 这个他说算啦
2014-09-16 21:56 Sellenite: 我很少收到关于血条的摸。。还以为是没什么问题
2014-09-16 21:56 Atrue: 那也就算啦
2014-09-16 21:56 Sellenite: 233
2014-09-16 21:56 Atrue: 其实rc没说,从道理上说碰血条也是不严谨啊
2014-09-16 21:56 Sellenite: 其实碰血条会有什么问题？
2014-09-16 21:57 Sellenite: 玩的时候..
2014-09-16 21:57 Sellenite: 我好像没什么感觉。。
2014-09-16 21:57 Atrue: 让人看着不舒服,没有其他感觉
2014-09-16 21:57 Atrue: 就好像,你出界了,然后还能点到
2014-09-16 21:57 Atrue: 你就觉得没啥问题
2014-09-16 21:58 Atrue: 血条本身对于击打也是一小点干扰吧
2014-09-16 21:58 Atrue: 亮亮的跟note交到一起的感觉
2014-09-16 21:58 Sellenite: 哦哦。。知道啦
2014-09-16 22:02 Atrue: 没啥问题了,我看看准备re
2014-09-16 22:02 Sellenite: 现在up了？
2014-09-16 22:03 Atrue: 恩传吧
2014-09-16 22:05 Sellenite: 恩可以了
2014-09-16 22:05 Sellenite: 检查下ww
2014-09-16 22:07 Atrue: `ok

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-16T14:18:33+00:00

thanks 黄书~

Kayano

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Kayano 2014-09-16T14:20:15+00:00

Sellenite wrote:
thanks 黄书~

你色盲吗明明是绿书 /me runs

KaedekaShizuru

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KaedekaShizuru 2014-09-16T14:24:17+00:00

requalityおめでとう~

Pururut

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Pururut 2014-09-16T15:38:52+00:00

玛德哭了 SS美丽

Sellenite wrote:
Pururut wrote:
玛德哭了 SS美丽
我也生了一肚子闷气

哭哭于是我打了个7x100

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Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-16T15:40:53+00:00

Pururut wrote:
玛德哭了 SS美丽

我也生了一肚子闷气

Awaken

858 posts

Joined February 2012

Awaken 2014-09-16T15:55:30+00:00

我草这rerank我还是没赶上草4mod 我已经哭出来88888

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-16T15:56:35+00:00

Awaken wrote:
我草这rerank我还是没赶上草4mod 我已经哭出来88888

哭哭

Satellite

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Satellite 2014-09-16T18:00:54+00:00

Regrats :3

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-17T00:20:40+00:00

Satellite wrote:
Regrats :3

thanks support ＝w＝

Meg

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Meg 2014-09-17T00:43:55+00:00

Re-omedeto

Melophobia

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Melophobia 2014-09-17T02:13:13+00:00

p3n wrote:
'True Dance' difficulty needs more input from the modding community before this mapset can be considered for a re-qualification.

Nymph wrote:
ok rebubbled.

????????

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-17T02:37:09+00:00

@melo

p3n wrote:
About the "true dance" diff (which should at least be called true force to go with the song), the spacing in general is way too big and absolutely erratic (00:08:955 (4,1) - massive jump then 00:09:275 (1,2) - normal spacing then 00:10:235 (6,1) - massive counterflowing jump then 00:10:555 (1,2) - massive flowing jump then 00:10:875 (2,3) - no more jump) so much so that it's impossible to tell rhythms from spacing alone, and and AR 9.5 is very unfitting. The SV changes are random (see 00:08:315 (2,4) - ) and most rhythms are blatantly overmapped (00:09:275 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - etc). I really think that this shouldn't be ranked at all, it's nowhere near good enough for that.

although
sv changed，hard to read.but this just a rhythm game，when you here the bgm，is surely easy to hear that here SV had been changed
jump，oh i see everywhere you point it is actually really worth the jump
overmap，overmap shouldn't be rank at all？i don't get this mean

bubbled or requalified,i had talk with bats，not much issue at all
why not bubbled or requalified

those

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those 2014-09-17T02:52:21+00:00

Sellenite wrote:
overmap shouldn't be rank at all？

Correct! Like you mentioned, it's a rhythm game. If you're not using the song's rhythms and instead, creating your own, it's not really a rhythm game then, is it

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2014-09-17T02:56:14+00:00

those wrote:
Correct! Like you mentioned, it's a rhythm game. If you're not using the song's rhythms and instead, creating your own, it's not really a rhythm game then, is it

overmap = unrank stuff

Melophobia

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Melophobia 2014-09-17T18:57:49+00:00

Sellenite wrote:
@melo
p3n wrote:
About the "true dance" diff (which should at least be called true force to go with the song), the spacing in general is way too big and absolutely erratic (00:08:955 (4,1) - massive jump then 00:09:275 (1,2) - normal spacing then 00:10:235 (6,1) - massive counterflowing jump then 00:10:555 (1,2) - massive flowing jump then 00:10:875 (2,3) - no more jump) so much so that it's impossible to tell rhythms from spacing alone, and and AR 9.5 is very unfitting. The SV changes are random (see 00:08:315 (2,4) - ) and most rhythms are blatantly overmapped (00:09:275 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - etc). I really think that this shouldn't be ranked at all, it's nowhere near good enough for that.
although
sv changed，hard to read.but this just a rhythm game，when you here the bgm，is surely easy to hear that here SV had been changed
jump，oh i see everywhere you point it is actually really worth the jump
overmap，overmap shouldn't be rank at all？i don't get this mean

bubbled or requalified,i had talk with bats，not much issue at all
why not bubbled or requalified

Learn to read. p3n deemed that the difficulty still needed more opinions from modders, not you. It doesn't matter at all that YOU think they're fine.
Additionally, BGM doesn't help at all when it comes to speed changes. Can you explain how we can previse speed changes just by listening to the BGM?

overmap shouldn't be rank at all？

That's going too far, overmapping is fine as long as it makes sense and it's as minor as random triplets which we all do nowadays. The problem is, you made random streams which aren't indicated by the song at all. 00:52:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - for example. As an experienced mapper/modder, I think it should never be pretermitted.

Koiyuki

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Koiyuki 2014-09-18T02:18:11+00:00

Seems I need to reply something.

1, Everyone has his own opinion on BGM, the SV change may not conform to your opinion, but conform to my understand of the song. I have discussed with KSHR and explained about the SV change, he thought 0.75x is not necessary but 1.5x is pretty nice, and he understand what I want to show in the True Dance.

Also, I get two extreme ideas from the diff get qualified. Some love the diff and feel fun playing, they enjoy this map, on the other side, some hates this because of random jump and sv changes and streams. I understand what players think about this.

2, It's my first time to map such a jumpy map, I'm not very experienced mapper so it does have some problems, something like overmap, random jump balabala, but it seems to be accepted by the QATs because like frosty, KSHR and captin, they left their score on the map. Also thanks to melo's advice, I will try to map better map after this, since I'm also a newbie touch mapping for less than 1 year.

3, 00:52:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - about this, when I mapped this, I was not according to the beats but another sound track. Yeah, it seemed to be a bad choice, but now seems to be acceptable. Thanks for pointing out this, I will handle it better in other maps.

If other members of QATs decide the True Dance diff is still having a long way to go, feel free to remove this diff. I dont want the problem in my diff causing mapper's time to get requalified.

Hopes that wont cause misunderstanding.

Really thanks.

Toy

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Toy 2014-09-18T04:11:28+00:00

I mean I think True Dance plays fine, I haven't had any problems with it.

xxdeathx

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xxdeathx 2014-09-18T04:33:15+00:00