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Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan


RIP Talon

"It's like Riot has decided that Zed, Ahri and Fizz are the only assassins allowed to be played, and whenever those assassins are not the only 3 viable assassins, they systematically gut every single one of them until it's Zed/Ahri/Fizz for another fucking World Championship."

fucking true
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Even though I'm a Talon player I don't like him as a champion and I can understand Riot doesn't want him to be a strong pick. A long range point-and-click silence doesn't offer counterplay and is frustrating to play against. If the entire strength of a champion comes from a silence it's probably a badly designed champion. Zed, Ahri and Fizz (even though I think his untargetability is fucking hilarious and OP) have much healthier kits and gameplay for assassins.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
If only Riot knows how to buff champions who aren't played much so those "OP" champs can be countered.

Riot is just stupid. Nerf champ> new picks in lcs> nerf them. Buff never
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Riot already said this was coming several months ago. Nothing new at all.
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan
He won't even be played as a counterpick to squishy mages now (what he has always been supposed to be).

Once the meta shifts again and other assassins return to popularity Talon will literally fall to Urgot-tier.
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
In terms of teamfighting he is still pretty good compared to other assassins
His lane phase will be brutal and he will become a niche pick again but he still has some crazy damage potential. Also he still works decently well against ap mids that rely on a skillshot like Lux/Syndra/Morgana.. if they play it badly.

People need to understand that a silence being the only thing that makes a champion good/viable is a mistake in champion design itself.
Think about it.
Talon definitly needs other changes. Removing the silence was a step into the right decision because it offered no counterplay, which is the definition of an "unhealthy" assassin. His other abilities need some love, including his passive, to make up for his loss of strength.

He might become bad, but comparing him to Urgot is just insane. LOL
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
A point and click silence on a high burst assassin that has stealth is extremely problematic. Relying on having little to no counterplay to be good is incredibly bad design. It's removal was justified.

I like that he can now proc his passive off his E but the problem is your need to have like 2 ping to do it. They should increase the slow duration to .5 or something since .1 is basically nothing.
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
oh lol I thought his E would slow for a whole 1 second
0.1 is nothing yeah
Cyclohexane
osu! Alumni
4,568 posts
Joined May 2009
Cyclohexane
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/leagu ... 9D-johnsen HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
LOL IM DEAD
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
He got off way too easily in my opinion.
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan
What's even funnier was checking his fb page, seeing tons of chinese / taiwanese people accusing him of being racist and at the same time calling him "white trash", "white pig". lol
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura
though the expressions contain "white" anyway, no matter if the other party is black/white/whatever.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Only banned for 3 games while others were banned for a year or something. Cough cough shook cough cough nukeduck cough cough iwd
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
You guys should check out his facebook page though, I almost feel bad for him
Geo
125 posts
Joined March 2013
Geo
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Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
not like I need sleep anyway



anyone?
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic
Alliance played league

jeez didn't knew that one
Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,102 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool
SSW vs AHQ
1:30
5/1

gg
Geo
125 posts
Joined March 2013
Geo
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Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
TSM FANBOY MODE AHHHHH.
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura
As expected from Royal Club :c
Dat Rengar tho
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Last two games were rape :'c
AlneCraft
83 posts
Joined January 2014
AlneCraft
It seems like DP will get DP'ed today
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura

AlneCraft wrote:

It seems like DP will get DP'ed today
lolol

EDG is the big favourite

EDIT : ASIAN RENGAR AGAIN
Nofool
Elite Mapper
1,102 posts
Joined February 2011
Nofool

PyaKura wrote:

EDG is the big favourite
SSB/SSW/NWS are too far ahead ;_;

TPA lost against TSM wtf õ_o.....
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura
I meant against DP lol

And yeah, TPA aren't in their best days. Kinda disappointed :(
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Let's see if Svenskeren gets boo'd tomorrow :D
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura
I seriously hope so
Ibuki Suika
1,254 posts
Joined March 2010
Ibuki Suika





！(╯‵□′)╯︵┻━┻
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
TSM HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEE
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
guys help me I need to figure out why Leona top is not 100% pick/ban yet
she gets so many free tanky stats and with 40% CDR she is a CC machine
with Iceborn Gauntlet it's just impossible to get away from her and she deals so much damage it's not even funny
yes she doesn't have an escape and that might be bad when playing from behind but there are so many champions that are played in the LCS that are bad when behind that it's not an excuse

I tell you like I told you about Zilean a few months ago: Leona top will be a thing soon
roufou
966 posts
Joined September 2011
roufou

BrokenArrow wrote:

guys help me I need to figure out why Leona top is not 100% pick/ban yet
she gets so many free tanky stats and with 40% CDR she is a CC machine
with Iceborn Gauntlet it's just impossible to get away from her and she deals so much damage it's not even funny
yes she doesn't have an escape and that might be bad when playing from behind but there are so many champions that are played in the LCS that are bad when behind that it's not an excuse

I tell you like I told you about Zilean a few months ago: Leona top will be a thing soon
probably cause there simply are better picks, most top laners will just dominate her early, perhaps even picking up kills on her. Main reason why she is prefered as support is because she really doesn't support any damage to kill without help of someone else, and an adc is probably the best source for this

oh, did I mention she has no sustain? good luck against lets say jayce for instance.
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura
Too many champs do well against her. Off the top of my head, Gnar, the uncommon Vayne top, Trundle, Volibear, Riven can't die or will straight out annihilate her. Not to mention she can't benefit from her own innate, which is better used in a duo lane. AP Leona is fun to play and can deal a fair amount of damage but it's not viable.
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
saying there are better picks and then naming Jayce is pretty funny, I give you that
guys stating viable champions can get countered by unviable champions doesn't make any sense, that's like saying Garen is a stronger pick than Renekton

top lane meta isn't about killing each other 1v1 anymore unless you are Nidalee, tp is a thing now
starting cloth 5 or doran's shield will help with her weak early lane phase, just avoid trading too hard

TRUST ME I CAN SEE THE FUTURE
roufou
966 posts
Joined September 2011
roufou
that's kinda the point though, even jayce beats leona hard, what about renek, riven, alistar, maokai, ryze, everyone, irelia, nidalee?
BrokenArrow
2,236 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
i'm not here to discuss, opinion is fact
just wait half a year
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura
And Cloth 5 is not a thing ever since they changed its build path ;_;
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Not sure where "She does a lot of damage" came from.
Her base damage isn't that great and her ratio scalings are even worse.

She has no sustain and at the very best she will turn top into a farm lane with low kill potential which is something you really do not want against the majority of the matchups top. It could work against a couple of matchups if your whole purpose is to deny early game snowballing.

The reason Zilean is so good now is because the game has devolved into this super mega protect the ADC or lose. Nerf adc's effectiveness in the game Zilean goes away.
[-Cloud-]
438 posts
Joined June 2013
[-Cloud-]


Found my new favourite support besides LeBlenk. 8)
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