I agree with your reasoning, that's why I don't have a solid townread on Dake, RB and NH, but there's no reason to get overly paranoid, it'd be pretty bad if we started overly suspecting everyone who looked town right now. Just be vary - keep options open that are technically still possible.Frostings wrote:
Still not sure what to think of Drezi, any scum can easily make a seemingly pro-town post like that
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I got grudges on Drezi last time
does that mean I can voet him too setsuen
does that mean I can voet him too setsuen
It's too late at D1 to do that unless Drezi is seem acting scummy/lurking. TOO BAD. SHOULD HAVE DONE IT 48HR+AGO SLOWPOKE.Sonatora wrote:
I got grudges on Drezi last time
does that mean I can voet him too setsuen
I feel like tn is copying my style of looking town. Unfortunately theo nly person who can be Town readed with that playstyle is me.Drezi wrote:
Even Dake told him to rant less about being voted, and post more content, but he keeps arguing the same point instead.
One of the MOST INVALID ARGUMENT ever if you're not null-scum/scum reading NH. NH did the SAME THING by bargaining that he would remove his vote on me if I stop walling. They call this "SELECTIVE ATTENTION" in Psychology and if NH/Drezi ever flip scum, It would be BENEFICIAL FOR TOWN IF THEY REMMEMBER THIS POST.Drezi wrote:
Also he bargains right away at the same time "Post and I'll consider removing this"..
Here's a nice theory. Scum makes a DUMB town argue with me. Jump on the Setsuen plz stop your wall argument with the dumb town and then once the argument stops and town FINALLY starts scumhunting, they hope that their PAST activity will save them from being scum readed. bc I get the feeling that now that the argument stopped, SOME people have started posting LESSER and LESSER in content.Drezi wrote:
I agree with your reasoning, that's why I don't have a solid townread on Dake, RB and NH, but there's no reason to get overly paranoid, it'd be pretty bad if we started overly suspecting everyone who looked town right now. Just be vary - keep options open that are technically still possible.
Here's the paranoid me saying that you're trying to delay town by not outing reads in hope that YOUR reads can be trusted. The good thing is that there's NO WAY scum can delay town ALL THE WAY until the DL. If they do, town should officially give up. Literally.beeboy123 wrote:
My reads are still being shipped please wait
Ah yes, sry, I was playing EU4 for 13 hours yesterday, so I didn't really check up on this game.
Will post later, when I get around to the computer~~ <3
Will post later, when I get around to the computer~~ <3
COMPLETELY different cases, how can you fail to see that. NH wanted to stop you from walling long before, that was just an additional means to that end.Setsuen wrote:
One of the MOST INVALID ARGUMENT ever if you're not null-scum/scum reading NH. NH did the SAME THING by bargaining that he would remove his vote on me if I stop walling. They call this "SELECTIVE ATTENTION" in Psychology and if NH/Drezi ever flip scum, It would be BENEFICIAL FOR TOWN IF THEY REMMEMBER THIS POST.Drezi wrote:
Also he bargains right away at the same time "Post and I'll consider removing this"..
In tn's case it's coming from nowhere, has no real intention (obviously Sephi would have had to start posting either way), it's just filler with a cautious-stayneutral tone.
And no, even that's invalid, I've just replaced in.. I've read everything in one go, even if I missed something you can't really say that it was intentional, or selective attention.Setsuen wrote:
They call this "SELECTIVE ATTENTION" in Psychology
It's not exactly. Stay neutral. He's bouncing from null townn,null, and null-scum.Drezi wrote:
COMPLETELY different cases, how can you fail to see that. NH wanted to stop you from walling long before, that was just an additional means to that end.
In tn's case it's coming from nowhere, has no real intention (obviously Sephi would have had to start posting either way), it's just filler with a cautious-stayneutral tone.
I would expect him to Overreact like I did in Lupus if he was copying my style but he didn't exactly do it so he was kind of null-town for a moment. But then the posts following it were null-scum.
Also, Sephi HARDLY even posted after that which is why you had to replace in in the first place. That and NH after playing some game with me, SHOULD know that voting me WILL NOT stop me from walling. Seriously. Drezi would YOU vote for me thinking that I will stop walling and arguing just because of your vote on me? The answer is no I'm pretty sure. In fact, the OPPOSITE will happen and MORE walls will happen.
The only thing I would agree is that tn is scummy but I don't like how you're taking suspicion off NH "on the sly""
But you're basically summarising things WAY too much that you're missing out the minor but IMPORTANT bits that would out a scum when combined together. Sure you might have readed everything but I don't think I can trust that you read it THAT carefully especially since SOME people can even forget what they themself stated at the start of the game.Drezi wrote:
And no, even that's invalid, I've just replaced in.. I've read everything in one go, even if I missed something you can't really say that it was intentional, or selective attention.
I'm not taking suspicion off NH "on the sly", null-town was my initial read and simply it hasn't changed. You're right I wouldn't try to stop your walling by voting, but him trying to dissuade you from walling did not come off as scummy in my eyes. I might have tried to reason with you to some extent too, like I agree that you should try to phrase your thoughts more concisely. But I'm not gonna open a battlefront here on the issue with your walling, hue.
whooo Drezi looks town!
Keeping my vote? Yes, he didn't defend enough or convinced me to at least unvote him. I didn't vote tn for being a lurker, but for lacking content.
If I'm useless then I don't know what the other bunch of fluff posters are.Frostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
Keeping my vote? Yes, he didn't defend enough or convinced me to at least unvote him. I didn't vote tn for being a lurker, but for lacking content.
fuckingFrostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
unbelievable
you're more useless than a fucking piece of empty bag of chip
You post less. Push attention to people who post lesser than you. Diversion much. For info posting less and pushing attention to other people who post less is scummy while posting a lot and pushing attention who post less is neutral.tn5421 wrote:
Or people that are posting even less than me.
Waiting.beeboy123 wrote:
My reads are still being shipped please wait
Consider this a prod dodge too.
Not liking tn's latest post, but doesnt seem like he would make it so obvious he was scum.
Explain this btw Sonatora. oh and also explain the clusterfuck you want to fix.Sonatora wrote:
fuckingFrostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
unbelievable
you're more useless than a fucking piece of empty bag of chip
@frosting i thought your reason for voting him was cause he gave up, but it doesnt look like it now, so why is your vote on him still?
So much for a true prod dodge post.
Oh yea, cause of DL prod rule, it would be best to post a prod dodge before like sleeping or school etc.
If I post my reads they would probably be torn apart the people and if I FoS any scum there play style will change making me believe they are town.
So did you join the game to hang around and not post anything relevant because of the things you mentioned?
If your reads are so bad that they're torn apart then learn from it, otherwise they won't get better. (Reads are subjective anyway, they can only be torn apart if the reasons you list for the reads are totally illogical/stupid.)
If scum changes their play style because of a FoS then that's something that'll be noticed probably and can be used. Sure sometimes it's better to withhold suspicions, but we still gotta do SOMETHING.. Hell you can even be Setsuen and FoS people randomly (sorry, based on gut) to see what happens
If scum changes their play style because of a FoS then that's something that'll be noticed probably and can be used. Sure sometimes it's better to withhold suspicions, but we still gotta do SOMETHING.. Hell you can even be Setsuen and FoS people randomly (sorry, based on gut) to see what happens
Are you really that unconfident or are you really trying to delay your reads / make us ignore them?beeboy123 wrote:
If I post my reads they would probably be torn apart the people and if I FoS any scum there play style will change making me believe they are town.
Look how mean he isSonatora wrote:
fuckingFrostings wrote:
Also now scumreading DakeDake because he is useless
unbelievable
you're more useless than a fucking piece of empty bag of chip
@Dake : your posts are as useless as beeboy's, except for one read post that you made 5 days ago..
I have no good reason to unvote him yetRaging Bull wrote:
@frosting i thought your reason for voting him was cause he gave up, but it doesnt look like it now, so why is your vote on him still?
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
This is a big ping. You would choose to lynch a townie even after knowing he's a townie? Hurts town "later in the game" is irrelevant if you lynch scum in the first place.Frostings wrote:
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
On a sidenote, I have a big exam coming up on Friday, so I'll be definitely posting less. Feel free to replace if needed.
@NH: How is that weird when we're talking about a Policy Lynch here?Frostings wrote:
I wanted to PL Sona
Well, hello there~
Wellp, I haven't missed much yesterday, except that tn is being inactive again.
Drezi crushed one of Setsuen's arguments which is nice.:
Also I've been rereading ISO's for the past hour (except Setsuen's, cause fuck that) and I really have to say that between all of the lurking and other accusations here, Frostings has just pulled the most scum-like post for my taste.
@Frostings; One shouldn't Policy Lynch out of that kind of idea. That's like saying we always have to PL Setsuen on D1 for retarded walling. Nobody likes it, but it's not an argument for a lynch. Thus your lynch on Sonatora is without any legitimacy. Using Self-vote for the excuse to retain your vote on him till, isn't really acceptable. Do you have any other valid reasons for your vote, or is it plainly Policy Lynch based?
Wellp, I haven't missed much yesterday, except that tn is being inactive again.
Drezi crushed one of Setsuen's arguments which is nice.:
because Setsuen can (omitted). Anyways Drezi is prooving to be a lot more townlike with his scepticism and investigative posts.Setsuen wrote:
Your argument is horrible and lurking is only PART of the reason why they are scum. If you can't understand that just start sheeping instead of arguing.
Also I've been rereading ISO's for the past hour (except Setsuen's, cause fuck that) and I really have to say that between all of the lurking and other accusations here, Frostings has just pulled the most scum-like post for my taste.
@Frostings; One shouldn't Policy Lynch out of that kind of idea. That's like saying we always have to PL Setsuen on D1 for retarded walling. Nobody likes it, but it's not an argument for a lynch. Thus your lynch on Sonatora is without any legitimacy. Using Self-vote for the excuse to retain your vote on him till, isn't really acceptable. Do you have any other valid reasons for your vote, or is it plainly Policy Lynch based?
Aaaaaaaaaand I've posted the wrong quote, lol. Gomenasai ^_^'
Setsuen wrote:
Sephi being replaced isn't going to change anything for your info. If He's scum Drezi is just going to continue the bad performance with LESS lurking only.
As much as a policy lynch on Sona is a waste of a lynch. It doesn't make me think Frostling is scum as he has been pushing this for awhile.
Just a question, would you guys want BRBP to be alive and screw town later or kill him before he lays his eggs?
Same as with Frostings, Navizel. You've got no superhuman abilities to the future.
to read the future*
the fuck is wrong with my writting today -.-
the fuck is wrong with my writting today -.-
Town
NoHitter
Setsuen
Sonatora
Null
Dake
SNB
Scum
Gumica - Other than his mostly non-productive arguments with Setsuen he has played pretty defensive this game.
Navi - Doing nothing + asking for prods earlier made me think he wants to force mod kills so he could win easily.
TN - Small things like coming in, saying hi and leaving. And using others inactivity as an excuse to being inactive.
No null-scum/town as no on is conf town and it should be easy to figure out who I think is scum vs null-scum based on my previous/upcoming posts. Not a lot has happened which is one of the main reasons why I held back on my reads.
NoHitter
Setsuen
Sonatora
Null
Dake
SNB
Scum
Gumica - Other than his mostly non-productive arguments with Setsuen he has played pretty defensive this game.
Navi - Doing nothing + asking for prods earlier made me think he wants to force mod kills so he could win easily.
TN - Small things like coming in, saying hi and leaving. And using others inactivity as an excuse to being inactive.
No null-scum/town as no on is conf town and it should be easy to figure out who I think is scum vs null-scum based on my previous/upcoming posts. Not a lot has happened which is one of the main reasons why I held back on my reads.
Drezi:
Because the policy lynch doesn't make sense. It's one thing to base a pl on a possibly suspicious activity e.g. Lynch all lurker, lynch all liars, etc. but it's another to do it whether or not someone is town or scum.
Because the policy lynch doesn't make sense. It's one thing to base a pl on a possibly suspicious activity e.g. Lynch all lurker, lynch all liars, etc. but it's another to do it whether or not someone is town or scum.
Im surprised you want to lynch town than push for one of your null scum read.Frostings wrote:
I have no good reason to unvote him yetRaging Bull wrote:
@frosting i thought your reason for voting him was cause he gave up, but it doesnt look like it now, so why is your vote on him still?
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
Where? Iirc, he only voted after Sonatora self voted and i dont think he pushed for it.beeboy123 wrote:
As much as a policy lynch on Sona is a waste of a lynch. It doesn't make me think Frostling is scum as he has been pushing this for awhile.
Idk hows that related. Does that mean you want to PL Sonatora? Cause it seems that way. FOS NavizelNavizel wrote:
Just a question, would you guys want BRBP to be alive and screw town later or kill him before he lays his eggs?
'bout time beeboy.
I'm suspicious about Drezi and Gumica; they are posting good posts, so I'll assume either one of them is playing their scum role very well (watch me get lynched next night because of this post, gg).
I'm suspicious about Drezi and Gumica; they are posting good posts, so I'll assume either one of them is playing their scum role very well (watch me get lynched next night because of this post, gg).
Oh also FoS Navi & HoS Frostings.
Another possible scumteam here?
Yes, I know Sona was in my early null-scum read, but his latest (stupid) behaviour has been (dumb and) townish enough, and anyway this policy lynch shit is just unnecessary and eccentric.
Another possible scumteam here?
Yes, I know Sona was in my early null-scum read, but his latest (stupid) behaviour has been (dumb and) townish enough, and anyway this policy lynch shit is just unnecessary and eccentric.
Where dem reads?
I'm asking for prods because I want activity. Activity = longer deadline and more discussions to find the scums.beeboy123 wrote:
Navi - Doing nothing + asking for prods earlier made me think he wants to force mod kills so he could win easily.
hi rb and snbNavizel wrote:
Read beeboy's ISO and apparently, he's not ok with lynching someone for bad play (Sonatora's) but he's fine with killing tn because of his inactivity. I don't get the non-mods thing. Probably nonPRs?
basically I'm thinking of Sonatora + beeboy scumteam. I'm fine with PL Sonatora but I'm better with lynching a conf-scum.
Thinking it better, I can also ride the Frostings bandwagon /o/
Going back on this, it seems like you know hes town already.Frostings wrote:
I have no good reason to unvote him yetRaging Bull wrote:
@frosting i thought your reason for voting him was cause he gave up, but it doesnt look like it now, so why is your vote on him still?
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
That sounded more like past tense read than command reed. Idk about that. Im neutral in that for now.Navizel wrote:
hi rb and snbNavizel wrote:
Read beeboy's ISO and apparently, he's not ok with lynching someone for bad play (Sonatora's) but he's fine with killing tn because of his inactivity. I don't get the non-mods thing. Probably nonPRs?
Because it is past tense.
Oh, whats that hi thing then?
Just want you guys to know that I posted something regarding Sonatora and beeboy which means policy lynching Sonatora isn't for lulz. Then again, that's my last option.
Voting now while I still got time.
Vote: Frostings
Vote: Frostings
Dodging prod since I'm studying
also Vote: Frostings
Bandwahgon
also Vote: Frostings
Bandwahgon
this guy
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.08
[3] Frostings -- Raging Bull, NoHitter, Sonatora (L-4)
[3] tn5421 -- Navizel, DakeDekaane, Drezi (L-4)
[1] Raging Bull -- Setsuen
[1] Sonatora -- Frostings
[0] beeboy123 --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Gumica --
[0] Navizel --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Setsuen --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- beeboy123, Gumica, Static Noise Bird, tn5421
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Friday, September 19th at 6:00 PM CST (GMT-6).
[3] Frostings -- Raging Bull, NoHitter, Sonatora (L-4)
[3] tn5421 -- Navizel, DakeDekaane, Drezi (L-4)
[1] Raging Bull -- Setsuen
[1] Sonatora -- Frostings
[0] beeboy123 --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Gumica --
[0] Navizel --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Setsuen --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- beeboy123, Gumica, Static Noise Bird, tn5421
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Friday, September 19th at 6:00 PM CST (GMT-6).
choo choo
Vote: Frostings
You're the next tn
Vote: Frostings
You're the next tn
I expect Frostings to respond within 24hours to explain himself. :^)
Oh, makes more sense.Navizel wrote:
Just want you guys to know that I posted something regarding Sonatora and beeboy which means policy lynching Sonatora isn't for lulz. Then again, that's my last option.
We still have quite a lot time for analyzing, but... wait. There's a train already going on? Don't leave me out, guys!
Vote: Frostings
Yes, actually I would PL a town. It's only D1, about three or four people scumread Sona and he already started talking about giving up. He basically refused to give his reads until RB pretty much forced him to. Even AFTER people townread him because of his terrible play, he STILL wanted to lynch himself. Sure we could try scum hunting, which I'm not suggesting we shouldn't do, but if we don't get anywhere then I'm suggesting Sona as an option. We could try letting Sona live for D2~D3 but obviously he isn't going to contribute and be pretty much useless.NoHitter wrote:
This is a big ping. You would choose to lynch a townie even after knowing he's a townie? Hurts town "later in the game" is irrelevant if you lynch scum in the first place.Frostings wrote:
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
Don't get me wrong, I'm not tunneling on Sona, I've been trying to find potential scum as well, but Sona isn't in my town read.
Posting more in a sec...
Gumica wrote:
Also I've been rereading ISO's for the past hour (except Setsuen's, cause fuck that) and I really have to say that between all of the lurking and other accusations here, Frostings has just pulled the most scum-like post for my taste.
@Frostings; One shouldn't Policy Lynch out of that kind of idea. That's like saying we always have to PL Setsuen on D1 for retarded walling. Nobody likes it, but it's not an argument for a lynch. Thus your lynch on Sonatora is without any legitimacy. Using Self-vote for the excuse to retain your vote on him till, isn't really acceptable. Do you have any other valid reasons for your vote, or is it plainly Policy Lynch based?
What post is scummy? My PL reason on Sona?
I'm not sure I understand. Lynching because of bad behavior is not an argument for a lynch? If someone lurks, some people would consider lynching them. If someone trolls all game, we would lynch them. This isn't different
I played with Sona in basically every mafia game I've joined here, it pretty much always happens.Gumica wrote:
Same as with Frostings, Navizel. You've got no superhuman abilities to the future.
Raging Bull wrote:
Im surprised you want to lynch town than push for one of your null scum read.
But I don't think Sona is town... Please don't manipulate my posts.
"Sona's usual town play" is more meant to mean: even if Sona were town this game. Doesn't necessarily mean he is or isn't
In one game BRBP, a VT, pretty much single handedly lost town the game by being alive until the endgame, posting absolute nonsense. It was because town was afraid of PL...Raging Bull wrote:
Idk hows that related. Does that mean you want to PL Sonatora? Cause it seems that way. FOS NavizelNavizel wrote:
Just a question, would you guys want BRBP to be alive and screw town later or kill him before he lays his eggs?
PLEASE try harder. Do you ever post insightful content or do you always sheep every game?DakeDekaane wrote:
Thinking it better, I can also ride the Frostings bandwagon /o/
Raging Bull wrote:
Going back on this, it seems like you know hes town alreadyFrostings wrote:
I have no good reason to unvote him yet
I wanted to PL Sona D1 because his usual town behavior hurts town later in the game
read above
It's 2 am, I have an 8:30 class tomorrow and I wrote all that on my phone
Please congratulate me
Please congratulate me
half of that probably doesn't even make sense
I'm so tired zzzz
I'm so tired zzzz
Your past games aren't basis for your vote. I won't accept the reason for vote a past game.
As for the Sonatora, he stopped that behaviour. People stopped suspecting Sephibro/Drezi, when he stopped lurking, so...
As for the Sonatora, he stopped that behaviour. People stopped suspecting Sephibro/Drezi, when he stopped lurking, so...
I'm not sheeping anyone, I could like vote immediately and only go for what certain person says, I'm doing my own conclusions based on what I read, that and a bit of OMGUS.
Sonatora may be a good candidate for PL, but I think we should go for who is scummier.
Sonatora may be a good candidate for PL, but I think we should go for who is scummier.
aka Frostings - tn
I hope some town remember that newbie mafia where Nav+Cts won as scum bc Cth avoided the lynch D1............Gumica wrote:
Your past games aren't basis for your vote. I won't accept the reason for vote a past game.
As for the Sonatora, he stopped that behaviour. People stopped suspecting Sephibro/Drezi, when he stopped lurking, so...
Stopping behaviour =/= not scum in fact, I would suspect them more until they prove that they can hold that behaviour for a VERY LONG TIME.
How about you comment about Frosting instead of other stuff.Setsuen wrote:
I hope some town remember that newbie mafia where Nav+Cts won as scum bc Cth avoided the lynch D1............Gumica wrote:
Your past games aren't basis for your vote. I won't accept the reason for vote a past game.
As for the Sonatora, he stopped that behaviour. People stopped suspecting Sephibro/Drezi, when he stopped lurking, so...
Stopping behaviour =/= not scum in fact, I would suspect them more until they prove that they can hold that behaviour for a VERY LONG TIME.
@frosting Okay fine then. Why do you want to PL a null than to push a scum read? If you want to base it on past games, well this set up most likely has different towns and BRBP isnt here. Im not PLing someone who already improved their behavior.
@sonatora, fix what clusterfuck?
Raging Bull wrote:
Im not PLing someone who already improved their behavior.
Sonatora wrote:
I'm not trolling there.
I really wanted to get lynched off but I have to fix this clusterfuck first
I don't know if this is improving behavior...
Also Sona is ignoring every question directed towards him
I'm still not removing my vote yet...
Congrats.Frostings wrote:
Please congratulate me
(I will post some real content tomorrow as I don't really have time for that today, sorry.)
(Actually, the movie that I have to watch by tomorrow is only 183 minutes long, so I might be here in around 3,5 hours.)
This is a prod dodge
Posting content tommorow
on mobile
Posting content tommorow
on mobile
I haven't played games here in so long that I don't always remember to check every day.Setsuen wrote:
You post less. Push attention to people who post lesser than you. Diversion much. For info posting less and pushing attention to other people who post less is scummy while posting a lot and pushing attention who post less is neutral.tn5421 wrote:
Or people that are posting even less than me.
watFrostings wrote:
Yes, actually I would PL a town. It's only D1, about three or four people scumread Sona and he already started talking about giving up. He basically refused to give his reads until RB pretty much forced him to. Even AFTER people townread him because of his terrible play, he STILL wanted to lynch himself. Sure we could try scum hunting, which I'm not suggesting we shouldn't do, but if we don't get anywhere then I'm suggesting Sona as an option. We could try letting Sona live for D2~D3 but obviously he isn't going to contribute and be pretty much useless.NoHitter wrote:
This is a big ping. You would choose to lynch a townie even after knowing he's a townie? Hurts town "later in the game" is irrelevant if you lynch scum in the first place.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not tunneling on Sona, I've been trying to find potential scum as well, but Sona isn't in my town read.
Posting more in a sec...
are you serious?
Wtf guys, we totally shouldn't lynch Frostings here. I had been nullreading him and leaning towards town now, since he explained the situation, and what he said is just what I was thinking on my own too - before his explanation, so really, I don't get why you're freaking out over that PL vote. Sona is not a conf town to me just because that giving up stuff, and even Frostings said that it's simply an "until better candidate appears" vote.
If you're scumreading him, sure but THIS shouldn't be the main reason.
Why the hell would we lynch Frost when we have TN here, who didn't even bother to adress my post against him, and still hasn't posted anything relevant.
Hell I'd sooner Lynch SNB, like seriously I sooo don't like this post:
Yes, I'm defending Frostings, because this is a stupid wagon on him, with a stupid reason.
If you're scumreading him, sure but THIS shouldn't be the main reason.
Why the hell would we lynch Frost when we have TN here, who didn't even bother to adress my post against him, and still hasn't posted anything relevant.
Hell I'd sooner Lynch SNB, like seriously I sooo don't like this post:
Yeah this is totally subjective, but the way he just jumped on the wagon and phrased this, and posted only fluff since then just pushed my null-scum read further.Static Noise Bird wrote:
We still have quite a lot time for analyzing, but... wait. There's a train already going on? Don't leave me out, guys!
Vote: Frostings
Yes, I'm defending Frostings, because this is a stupid wagon on him, with a stupid reason.
And scum has nothing to gain by trying to push a PL, it's not even like a scum partner needed saving or anything, scum can just join any wagon and lynch off a scummy townie, why would they pull shit like this.
Tn literally just came here said 2, 1 line posts and is probably gone for 24 hours.
vote: TN
vote: TN
It's like you didn't even read the rest of that posttn5421 wrote:
watFrostings wrote:
Yes, actually I would PL a town. It's only D1, about three or four people scumread Sona and he already started talking about giving up. He basically refused to give his reads until RB pretty much forced him to. Even AFTER people townread him because of his terrible play, he STILL wanted to lynch himself. Sure we could try scum hunting, which I'm not suggesting we shouldn't do, but if we don't get anywhere then I'm suggesting Sona as an option. We could try letting Sona live for D2~D3 but obviously he isn't going to contribute and be pretty much useless.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not tunneling on Sona, I've been trying to find potential scum as well, but Sona isn't in my town read.
Posting more in a sec...
are you serious?
Please try harder if you want to scumpaint me
quick reads right now, because I gotta head off soon
town - Setsuen, Gumica, Drezi
null-town - Navizel, RB
null - SNB, NH, Sona (Sona is gonna move to nullscum if he keeps ignoring everyone's questions)
null-scum - beeboy, Dake
scum - tn
town - Setsuen, Gumica, Drezi
null-town - Navizel, RB
null - SNB, NH, Sona (Sona is gonna move to nullscum if he keeps ignoring everyone's questions)
null-scum - beeboy, Dake
scum - tn
@frosting, i havent forgotten about sonatora. Thats why i asked him the clusterfuck question. And his behavior changed because he no longer wants to lynch himself. But you still didnt answer my question. Why do you want to push for a null read lynch than a null scum lynch?
@drezi, PLing someone can be a good reason for scum to push for a lynch since scum would usually find it harder to try to lynch someone they see is scum,wwhen scum themselves know they are lynching town.
Tn makes it way too obvious as scum, so he doesnt convince me.
@drezi, PLing someone can be a good reason for scum to push for a lynch since scum would usually find it harder to try to lynch someone they see is scum,wwhen scum themselves know they are lynching town.
Tn makes it way too obvious as scum, so he doesnt convince me.
You know, you arent really helping. Can you post your reads and explain why you read them as such?
Oh how nice.
From sakura games
um..... should we just PL? I don't see TN's slot not being lynched this game after the I am scum comment.
Idk anymore
Being obvious scum is not a reason not to lynch, if isn't making use of it to make reads or anything.. if he keeps doing this as town he's playing against his wincon, so..
As for the PL stuff, as you could see it from both wagons, it's really easy to just join one of them, I still don't think initiating a PL as scum is such a big gain. It's a null tell in itself as far as I'm concerned.
And it isn't even a true PL, because the vote had a scummyness aspect to it aswell, not just pure "lynch useless player". It makes perfect sense to vote someone (and be okay with lynching them, unless a better case presents itself) who might be scum, but if not than we don't lose as much since their behavior is hurtful to town anyway.. (like TN right now?...) Rather than someone who is making sense, but drew some suspicion, a mislynch would hurt a lot more in that case.
As for the PL stuff, as you could see it from both wagons, it's really easy to just join one of them, I still don't think initiating a PL as scum is such a big gain. It's a null tell in itself as far as I'm concerned.
And it isn't even a true PL, because the vote had a scummyness aspect to it aswell, not just pure "lynch useless player". It makes perfect sense to vote someone (and be okay with lynching them, unless a better case presents itself) who might be scum, but if not than we don't lose as much since their behavior is hurtful to town anyway.. (like TN right now?...) Rather than someone who is making sense, but drew some suspicion, a mislynch would hurt a lot more in that case.
sorry, prod dodging..
I'll post explanation to reads and stuff tomorrow, need sleep now
I'll post explanation to reads and stuff tomorrow, need sleep now
So we're divided on the ones who think tn is scum and the ones who thinks Frostings is.
And tbh I find a bit weird SNB jumping on Frostings' wagon, what made you join the wagon after looking a lot of people on it?
And tbh I find a bit weird SNB jumping on Frostings' wagon, what made you join the wagon after looking a lot of people on it?
I never thought i see this day.
prod Setsuen
prod Setsuen
Hi. Going to post after school. Sorry.
Welp everyone prod dodge-ing. Well i still prefer Frosting lynch than tn.
I've been null-scum reading them from the very start, remember. Lately it's been even worse.DakeDekaane wrote:
And tbh I find a bit weird SNB jumping on Frostings' wagon, what made you join the wagon after looking a lot of people on it?
Sure, my wagon-jumping post sounded really bad etc. omg, sorry about that.
Game is too boring. How hard can it be for town to lynch. Since town isn't going to do anything, I'm not going to either. If town is planning on letting scum mislead them into MLing a town in the last 3days before DL, town deserve to lose for stupidity. I have better things to do such as watching shows than doing a Perpetual MyLo activity rerun. Also, since I last posted, NO decent info have been given out so I don't even need to comment on anything except for pure stupidity.Raging Bull wrote:
I never thought i see this day.
prod Setsuen
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After reviewing BEFORE my last post 30hrs ago:
also @Frosting
"I'm still not removing my vote yet" is literally one of the stunts I would pull as mafia in EpicMafia. Although my forum mafia playstyle is different from my EM playstyle, I have found strange similarity between my scum play in EM and the scum play by mafia in forum mafia which is also why I FOSed Nyquil in ChaosInDummyville soooo easily.
Also anyone using it to town read DD need to cross it off bc I smell something scummy about it. Obv you need to look VERY deeply into the HIDDEN intention behind what he typed.DakeDekaane wrote:
I'm not sheeping anyone, I could like vote immediately and only go for what certain person says, I'm doing my own conclusions based on what I read, that and a bit of OMGUS.
Sonatora may be a good candidate for PL, but I think we should go for who is scummier.
Also I expect a LIST of possible scum team combination from these people:
1.Gumica
2.beeboy123
3.Navizel
4.NoHitter
10/10 if we lynch off Scum D1 and I survive N1, the game will be close to solved via super paranoid POE and this info.
Scum combination should have 3People in it bc 2ppl scum team are literally unheard of in a 12P game.
Now state every single possible scum team you four. Or Else.
1.Gumica
2.beeboy123
3.Navizel
4.NoHitter
10/10 if we lynch off Scum D1 and I survive N1, the game will be close to solved via super paranoid POE and this info.
Scum combination should have 3People in it bc 2ppl scum team are literally unheard of in a 12P game.
Now state every single possible scum team you four. Or Else.
Something you would do if you were scum doesn't mean shitSetsuen wrote:
also @Frosting
"I'm still not removing my vote yet" is literally one of the stunts I would pull as mafia in EpicMafia. Although my forum mafia playstyle is different from my EM playstyle, I have found strange similarity between my scum play in EM and the scum play by mafia in forum mafia which is also why I FOSed Nyquil in ChaosInDummyville soooo easily.
If I were town, I wouldn't be posting lengthy walls every post unless it was necessary. But you're doing it, and that doesn't mean you aren't town
@RB Despite my null-scum reads on others, I still didn't have a good enough reason to unvote Sona. I would lynch a null-read who didn't post shit over a null-scum read which I may have read as such because of one or two posts
explanations of my reads in a sec
TOWN
Setsuen - he's consistent with all his other town plays from previous games, and no scum in their right mind would post walls of that magnitude for so long
Gumica - I can see the town drive in his posts, his posts are consistent, nothing stands out for me from him
Drezi - went from null to town because this post. If he was scum, there is no advantage of posting this
NULL-TOWN
Navizel - same points as Gumica, will probably go to townread if he remains consistent
RB - despite scumreading me, he's still trying to scumhunt I guess. Town if he keeps doing so
NULL
SNB, NH - still don't know about these guys yet...
Sona - explained
NULL-SCUM
beeboy, Dake - both these guys' posts are actually terrible. Reading through the last two pages of their ISO you get barely any information from them
SCUM
tn - lurking, random vote and unvote on Sephi, posts don't contribute to anything. If he somehow flips town I don't know what to say....
Setsuen - he's consistent with all his other town plays from previous games, and no scum in their right mind would post walls of that magnitude for so long
Gumica - I can see the town drive in his posts, his posts are consistent, nothing stands out for me from him
Drezi - went from null to town because this post. If he was scum, there is no advantage of posting this
NULL-TOWN
Navizel - same points as Gumica, will probably go to townread if he remains consistent
RB - despite scumreading me, he's still trying to scumhunt I guess. Town if he keeps doing so
NULL
SNB, NH - still don't know about these guys yet...
Sona - explained
NULL-SCUM
beeboy, Dake - both these guys' posts are actually terrible. Reading through the last two pages of their ISO you get barely any information from them
SCUM
tn - lurking, random vote and unvote on Sephi, posts don't contribute to anything. If he somehow flips town I don't know what to say....
You don't lose much as scum by stopping a lynch D1 you also gain a lot from not following a wagon since if you flip town Drezi will look innocent for trying to defend you and if Drezi flips scum people will believe you are scum due to the relationship the 2 of you had. Unless it is MyLo or LyLo you can't say that stopping or slowing down a lynch makes someone town.Frostings wrote:
Drezi - went from null to town because this post. If he was scum, there is no advantage of posting this
All of your scum reads are due to people not posting content. did anything posted so far feel odd to you?
No idea who would be working with who at this point in the game sorry :/Setsuen wrote:
Now state every single possible scum team you four. Or Else.
Can anyone with < 5 day old reads please update us with your current thoughts on the game.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.09
[5] Frostings -- Raging Bull, NoHitter, Sonatora, DakeDekaane, Static Noise Bird (L-2)
[4] tn5421 -- Navizel, Drezi, beeboy123, Frostings
[1] Raging Bull -- Setsuen
[0] beeboy123 --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Gumica --
[0] Navizel --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Setsuen --
[0] Sonatora --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Gumica, tn5421
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Friday, September 19th at 9:00 AM CST (GMT-6). 9 hours reduced due to prods.
Gumica, NoHitter, and Sonatora have been prodded.
I will not replace tn5421 yet, but if he doesn't post within 12 hours, I will look for a replacement. This will not affect the deadline.
[5] Frostings -- Raging Bull, NoHitter, Sonatora, DakeDekaane, Static Noise Bird (L-2)
[4] tn5421 -- Navizel, Drezi, beeboy123, Frostings
[1] Raging Bull -- Setsuen
[0] beeboy123 --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Gumica --
[0] Navizel --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Setsuen --
[0] Sonatora --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Gumica, tn5421
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Friday, September 19th at 9:00 AM CST (GMT-6). 9 hours reduced due to prods.
Gumica, NoHitter, and Sonatora have been prodded.
I will not replace tn5421 yet, but if he doesn't post within 12 hours, I will look for a replacement. This will not affect the deadline.
Town
Setsuen
RB
Null-Town
NH
Null
Sona
Dake
Navi
Null-Scum
beeboy
Frostings
Scum
Drezi OR Gumica. I can't tell which one, but they both probably are not. I'll expect tn or Frostings to be either one's partner.
Oh yeah, that leads to the most important read:
Lurkfuck
tn
Setsuen
RB
Null-Town
NH
Null
Sona
Dake
Navi
Null-Scum
beeboy
Frostings
Scum
Drezi OR Gumica. I can't tell which one, but they both probably are not. I'll expect tn or Frostings to be either one's partner.
Oh yeah, that leads to the most important read:
Lurkfuck
tn