what.... how are we supposed to respond to this?Frostings wrote:
ok, I don't think we can gather more information at this point.
I'd like everyone to discuss before I make it official
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you said you where leaning towards zexion so discussion has already happened. Take your time we have 4 days.
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Vote Caunt 2.WhoCares
Zexion (1) - beeboy123
beeboy123 (1) - Zexion
Not voting (3) - GuyInFreezer, DakeDekaane, Frostings
With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.beeboy123 (1) - Zexion
Not voting (3) - GuyInFreezer, DakeDekaane, Frostings
what I find fun is that everyone is leaning towards Zexion but no one votes yet or tries to do something else, want me to step ahead?
better than nothing...DakeDekaane wrote:
what I find fun is that everyone is leaning towards Zexion but no one votes yet or tries to do something else, want me to step ahead?
we aren't going to see a hammer until the 26th at 12:40
Well this isn't going anywhere
LEAP OF FATE
VOTE: ZEXION
LEAP OF FATE
VOTE: ZEXION
Well "faith" works too but I find "fate" more appropriate.
Alright, let's hope for the best. Also Frostings is the other scum.
Vote: Zexion
Vote: Zexion
Unless GIF deceived me 
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Game is paused hold on and dont post
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During the assembly beeboy points his finger at Zexion "I saw him murder CalignoBot last night!" "What i didnt do such a thing", "Look he has a gun!"
"How did that get in there? I SWEAR I DIDNT DO IT, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME", DakeDekaane steps up "Well I guess I should end this". And they throw Zexion off the mountain in the boot camp... wait mountain?
Oh didnt't i tell you? this was a mountainous setup...
"WHAT THE FUCK NOOOOO"
Zexion Vanilla Townie has fell off a mountain D2
GuyInFreezer Vanilla Townie has been endgamed
Frostings Vanilla Townie has been endgamed
DakeDekaane Mafia Roleblocker has survived and won!
beeboy123 Mafia Role Cop has survived and won!
Mafia wins!
"How did that get in there? I SWEAR I DIDNT DO IT, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME", DakeDekaane steps up "Well I guess I should end this". And they throw Zexion off the mountain in the boot camp... wait mountain?
Oh didnt't i tell you? this was a mountainous setup...
"WHAT THE FUCK NOOOOO"
Zexion Vanilla Townie has fell off a mountain D2
GuyInFreezer Vanilla Townie has been endgamed
Frostings Vanilla Townie has been endgamed
DakeDekaane Mafia Roleblocker has survived and won!
beeboy123 Mafia Role Cop has survived and won!
Mafia wins!
Meh.
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Yeah, i thought making a setup where neither town nor scum knows it's mountainous could shift the tides in town's favor specially because scum would be PR hunting, but I guess it didn't work out as intended, giving scum fake claims was fatal error on my part, maybe i tried to hide the mountainous of the setup too much ._.
I was going on a right track but I never could get over frostings mentioning roleblocker out of nowhere.
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Also when Dake mentioned wanting to vote and beeboy saying that there wont be a hammer until deadline I thought it was a scumslip of beeboy showing knowledge that a dake vote wouldnt imply a QH.
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My thoughts on the setup itself:
I want to try and see if a mountainous setup would work without people knowing it was mountainous since most of the time the issues with mountainous is that the lack of PRs (and knowing that there's no PRs) drives town into apathy while scum can just kill the biggest voices in town without worries of being counter attacked by a PR, I thought trying to give town hope and making scum hunt for PRs during the night would balance it, in the end it wasn't a good idea, but well that's why the setup was experimental in the first place, sorry u.u
I want to try and see if a mountainous setup would work without people knowing it was mountainous since most of the time the issues with mountainous is that the lack of PRs (and knowing that there's no PRs) drives town into apathy while scum can just kill the biggest voices in town without worries of being counter attacked by a PR, I thought trying to give town hope and making scum hunt for PRs during the night would balance it, in the end it wasn't a good idea, but well that's why the setup was experimental in the first place, sorry u.u
I couldn't get over Dekaane putting tn at L-1
but I got too caught up in Dekaane + Zexion team or beeboy + GIF team to consider other possibilities
but I got too caught up in Dekaane + Zexion team or beeboy + GIF team to consider other possibilities
Somehow I got away with a QH. Maybe this would have been different if Tn didn't give up and let himself get lynched.
Nice lie
Anyways, GG
Anyways, GG
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Dake+Zexion wouldnt make sense in a white flag environment tho...
also there WAS a role blocker!GuyInFreezer wrote:
I was going on a right track but I never could get over frostings mentioning roleblocker out of nowhere.
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And since you guys wanted them
beeboy123
Fake ClaimSakura wrote:
Salute beeboy123.
Rest, This is a message about your next mission.
You and DakeDekaane are to infiltrate the enemy's camp and destroy them.
This is a top secret mission, should either of you be found out, the mission will result in failure
With your advanced technology gadget, you may scan a person during the night and learn their abilities in essence you are a Mafia Rolecop
You may communicate with your partner in this frequency: -Stuff-, however due to bad jamming you can only talk in here during the pregame and during the night.
If you manage to thin the solider nombers to equal yours and there are no other killer roles alive the mission will be a success.
Good Luck, Soldier!
Sakura wrote:
Welcome soldier.
I know in the last war you were very useful at finding enemies via their footsteps, these abilities may serve useful as you are a Town Tracker and can easily follow a person's footsteps to see who they targeted that night.
You also got your voice and your vote to correctly identify the spies.
You win when one of the spies has been correctly lynched forcing the other spy to surrender.
"DakeDekaane"
Fake ClaimSakura wrote:
Salute DakeDekaane.
Rest, This is a message about your next mission.
You and beeboy123 are to infiltrate the enemy's camp and destroy them.
This is a top secret mission, should either of you be found out, the mission will result in failure
With your electronic jammer you can disrupt any enemy device they may carry, in essence you are a Mafia Roleblocker
You may communicate with your partner in this frequency: -Stuff- , however due to bad jamming you can only talk in here during the pregame and during the night.
If you manage to thin the solider nombers to equal yours and there are no other killer roles alive the mission will be a success.
Good Luck, Soldier!
Sakura wrote:
Welcome Soldier.
Since you were in charge of the jails, you may use your jail key to put people inside the electronic lock for a night, disabling them from going anywhere and also preventing them from being killed, however the electronic system is severely damage and it will only last 1 night, so you are a Town 1-Shot Jailkeeper
You also got your voice and your vote to correctly identify the spies.
You win when one of the spies has been correctly lynched forcing the other spy to surrender.
I thought it was Dekaane Zexion team, and Dekaane was trying to pretend scumreading his partner to cause confusion and make town vote beeboySakura wrote:
Dake+Zexion wouldnt make sense in a white flag environment tho...
I totally should have voted Dekaane in the end, I didn't want to risk it though since we had beeboy's Cop claim
Rule of thumb: never give out fakeclaims in advertised normal game.
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Welp i'll take that in mind in the future, probably wont be running any closed mountainous for a while (or ever...), being closed gives scum full credibility with fake claims, GiF almost had it when he noticed that it didnt make sense for a white flag environment for everyone to be ganging up on Zexion, but oh well :3
Too bad nobody quitted or leaved
I wish Sakura can rehost the same setup
I wish Sakura can rehost the same setup
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I also find it odd that this post wasn't found suspicious:
But considering I knew who was scum, probably i saw it as a scumslip or something.DakeDekaane wrote:
what I find fun is that everyone is leaning towards Zexion but no one votes yet or tries to do something else, want me to step ahead?
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I can rehost another normal, but it certainly wont be the same setup, i could host an open mountainous tho, but ppl usually don't like it.Sonatora wrote:
Too bad nobody quitted or leaved
I wish Sakura can rehost the same setup
As scum, I had fun but yeah, the fake claims were OP. Maybe make it a true mountainous (closed) would have been better, but I think White Flag somehow balanced it a bit.
Also I already was seeing the game lost after beeboy hammering tn, but I guess it was pure luck, and yes, that post was really bad LOL.
Also I already was seeing the game lost after beeboy hammering tn, but I guess it was pure luck, and yes, that post was really bad LOL.
Not gonna lie I thought the same thing XDDakeDekaane wrote:
Also I already was seeing the game lost after beeboy hammering tn, but I guess it was pure luck, and yes, that post was really bad LOL.
I would've been on his ass all day if it wasn't for the tracker crumb/claim.
Also, you guys should've been able to figure out that the town had no power with y'all's roles and fakeclaims.
Also, you guys should've been able to figure out that the town had no power with y'all's roles and fakeclaims.
I just instantly assumed there was 1-2 PRs among town and stopped thinking about it.GuyInFreezer wrote:
I would've been on his ass all day if it wasn't for the tracker crumb/claim.
Also, you guys should've been able to figure out that the town had no power with y'all's roles and fakeclaims.
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In a normal scenario i'd give town 1-2 PRs and scum prob 1 to counter them and that's about it. But well guess giving scum fake claims was way too OP (considering mod given fake claims are safe to claim without fear of CC).
Jailkeeper wouldn't break too much the game due scum blocked/town protected, but Tracker did, maybe Doctor?
A fake doctor claim would do nothing in a white flag set up I don't think any scum would use it.
Cop and doc are way too OP in 7p WF to be even thought about putting them in the setup.
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My original plan with the fake claims:
Since scum could either roleblock someone or role cop someone they know that someone roleblocked couldn't have gone anywhere and VTs couldnt go anywhere too, so my idea was that they'd use their own purposes to fake claim instead of risking getting outed by a possible town PR, i really... never expected scum to fake claim a guilty with the tracker fake claim.
Since scum could either roleblock someone or role cop someone they know that someone roleblocked couldn't have gone anywhere and VTs couldnt go anywhere too, so my idea was that they'd use their own purposes to fake claim instead of risking getting outed by a possible town PR, i really... never expected scum to fake claim a guilty with the tracker fake claim.
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So basically Tracker was supposed to say that the person they roleblocked went nowhere, while jailkeeper was supposed to say they targeted the person they roleblocked, but stuff doesnt always work out as you think and i learned a lot from modding this game.
tehe~
Let's stop blaming ourselves and burn the reviewer of this game instead.
(mutiny)
(mutiny)
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Hey pieguy they are looking for youGuyInFreezer wrote:
Let's stop blaming ourselves and burn the reviewer of this game instead.
(mutiny)
*runs*
Why Sakura why.
You even had to give them safeclaims so they could just troll.
I hate every single one od you guys.
You even had to give them safeclaims so they could just troll.
I hate every single one od you guys.
*brings torches and giant forks*GuyInFreezer wrote:
Let's stop blaming ourselves and burn the reviewer of this game instead.
(mutiny)
What bothered me the most was the absolute lack of any defenses from my side. ;(
Scum thought yo were a cop