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Aeonian Sonder

Hinsvar wrote:

Well hello there! I'll mod your map...

...or more like giving general advices. After a little quick look at your map, I decided that it'd be better. Way better for me and you. Well okay, at least just for the Normal diff.

First, the spacing must be consistent with almost no exceptions (you'll know the exceptions later if you map long enough; one of them is when it's just impossible to place notes anywhere because of how the music goes). 00:37:903 (1,2,3) is NOT an exception, for example; you're not allowed to make the spacing inconsistent for the sake of blanketing. Also, you CAN'T make the spacing inconsistent to achieve/create symmetrical patterns.

Still in Normal, 00:00:761 (1,2,3) is very tricking because the spacing is visually the same, yet the difference is very noticeable in terms of the rhythm. 00:00:761 (1,2) are a beat apart from each other, and 00:01:475 (2,3) are half beats apart.

Then, you shouldn't really do something like 00:10:760 (2,3), where you place (3)'s head near (2)'s. It feels like you're forced to return to the spot you previously were on, which doesn't make a good thing since you're not moving a lot from your current spot. (Stacks are obviously not a problem, though.)

Also, you should start to use more curved sliders. For example, you can try making 00:22:189 (3) look like this.

Before I move on further, I think you should emphasize piano notes like 00:03:618 (1) with your custom finish hitsound. That'd be better since the spots won't make you feel weird while playing.

Hmm, then, for 00:34:332 (3,4), try this? Or just make sure (4) doesn't touch (3)'s tail.

00:47:189 (4,5) - Consider making them not touch each other, or at least make (4) overlap (5) exactly on the middle of it. That'd be neater.

The combo pattern is also not consistent, especially after the first break. I think you already know what to do here, so I'll leave that to you.

A little thing that I want to say: 02:26:832 - Why is the combo not gray here? I thought you only use it on the choruses...? And now that I think of it, why do you only use the kiai time on the last chorus? The other choruses are also quite strong, too.

Well, I just want to say that your Normal diff can be made far better than how it is now. For the Hard and Insane diffs, since they're quite okay, I'll return to the usual per-object comments.

I would rather prefer that you just modded regularly AND teach me who to make it better because looking at things like this kind of gave a me a headache trying to solve how to make it more playable.

>Hard
  1. 00:00:761 (1) - There is technically nothing wrong with this, but the flow can be better if this weren't a straight/linear slider. Use something like this? Ok
  2. 00:04:332 (2) - Move the node on the tail to (189,53) for a better flow here? You're obviously not using grip snap, but OK
  3. 00:12:903 (3) - Move to (363,169)? You'll know why when you see it.
  4. 00:12:903 (3,4) - Don't you think they are too close to each other compared to 00:12:189 (1,2,3)? OK
  5. 00:24:332 (3) - Move to (336,183)? I do the x-axis, but can't really do with the y-axis because of distance snap.
  6. 00:36:475 (4,5,6,7) - It's not allowed to use sliders that are silenced since they're extremely confusing, and you shouldn't try to map a silent part with something like this. Just map the vocal or something, and use a far higher volume. (Applies to the similar cases.) Really? I'll ask a BAT when they notice later about it then.
  7. 00:41:118 (2) - Move to (211,143) so 00:40:760 (1,2,3)'s heads will form a triangle? But it's already a triangle...
  8. 00:43:618 (1,3,4) - Try to make them not touch each other? I changed it, but it's kinda hard to because of distance snap.
  9. 00:44:332 (2) - Try this? Looks and flows better. Did something else to the area
  10. 00:53:618 (5,6,1) - The spacing and rhythm here makes this part confusing to play overall... Just saying. I tried...
  11. 01:10:225 (3) - Move to (349,55) for a better flow? Not that I won't, I can't
  12. 01:13:439 (2) - Move to (233,148), for, again, a better flow? Ah...?
  13. 01:27:189 (3,4,5,6) - What's with the spacing inconsistency at the end of the pattern? OK
  14. 01:37:903 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ OK
  15. 01:42:189 (5) - Move to (199,33) for a better blanket? Umm... Distance snap
  16. 02:07:010 (2,3,4,5) - Make them straighter like this? OK
  17. 02:37:010 (6,7,8) - uh wtf what's with the spacing here. It's very unbalanced and will be very hard to read for players. Make the spacing consistent please. OK
  18. 02:45:760 (4,5,1) - Any reason you suddenly decreased the spacing here? Looks odd considering the spacing you use in kiai times. Oh, god, I was think about TRakker - Rootus at the think, so my mind was not in the phrase of making a map.
>Insane
  1. 00:01:653 (2) - Stack to 00:01:832 (3)'s head instead of 00:00:761 (1)'s? Flows better. Nah, pass
  2. 00:07:725 (6,7) - Why not make the spacing bigger? It'd play better instead of forcing the position so 00:07:903 (7) would be stacked below 00:07:368 (4). Make a triangle
  3. 00:36:475 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - What's with this stream? It just... feels forced compared to the song itself. (Applies to the other streams before the choruses.) Well, at least I didn't make a space every four circles like how the song sounds.
  4. 00:53:796 (5) - Move to (240,175) so 00:53:439 (3,4,5) will form a triangle? It'll create a nicer flow too. OK
  5. 01:01:118 (1,2,3,4) - Make them in-line with each other? You know, either move (1,3) to y:200 or (2,4) to y:192. You should know why. OK
  6. 01:10:760 (5) - NC to denote that this is the beginning of a different unique pattern? OK
  7. 01:36:832 (8,10) - Try to make them not touch each other? Pass
  8. 01:37:189 (10,1) - Consider using a single slider shape for these two sliders. You know, make them have the same curve. Trust me, it'd play better. OK
  9. 02:07:903 (1,2) - While this is kinda readable, this kind of rhythm doesn't fit the song, especially that 1/16 slider. In fact, silencing it won't help; it'd be worse since it doesn't give any feedback and is just unfitting. Consider using a single slider like the first chorus. I'll also ask the BAT about this, because I saw this somewhere else, but I don't remember...
  10. 02:26:743 (1,2) - wtf? Oh, weird, how the slider move there...
Well that's it.

Your Insane is pretty good actually. I'm just kinda worried about those 1/8 jumps, though, since it's hard to differ between 3/8 and 1/4 sliders here. Also, avoid placing an object on a previous object's place too much. Try to be more dynamic!

Good luck on the way 8-)
Yay, long post to make this map a little better~
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

Rad- wrote:

Hello, my part from the M4M :p

One thing i can say about the whole mapset is that the greyed combo colors really make the maps more boring, specially since you would do something like that if the map actually had a storyboard or something, this way it feels bland.

There are lots of patterns that ''stop'', it breaks the flow of the map so much, even for this kind of song, because those stops are not at the right places most of the time, try to move around more when mapping.

From 00:37:903 - to 00:59:332 and 01:46:475 - to 02:07:903 , make these kiai times, because its still a chorus. Actually, doing this makes it harder for hidden players


Normal
The whole spacing of this map is too inconsistent, many times too close (or on top of the next objects) and other times too far away. Learn to make a more stable map with proper spacing. Currently something I'm constantly working on.
There are waaay too many sliders like this 00:04:332 (2) in the whole intro, really repetitive Well, it's because I have to make the hitsounds match...
00:35:135 - - Remove this inherited point, because from 00:35:135 - to 00:37:903 - there is a huge silence, and add a Finish to that spinner Why would I want to here "PEW" in the middle of the map instead of matching it with the hitsounds?
00:56:296 (2) - Delete this slider, it starts in a really weird place for a Normal, and make 00:55:046 (1) - this slider reverse, doesnt have to fit the lyrics. all it really matters is to follow the song well, and yes, you might have to delete the inherited points you have there for the hitsounds. And most importantly, place the 00:55:046 (1) slider on x:372 y:60 with end of slider at x:188 y:68. Um... I followed SOME of that, main the slider
00:57:010 (2,3) - Place these objects closer to the previous pattern. MY GOD the timing point you gave me and the slider and circle is SO off
00:57:993 (1) - Move the start of this slider to 00:58:260 (1) Eh?
01:29:332 (5) - NC OK

Hard
This map also has really bad spacings, and would look more like an Insane map for the BPMs that it has, making your Insane look like an ''Extra'', that means that the difficulty spike is huge. Dang...
00:54:600 (6) - This slider is just too weird, specially with your wrong spacings. Delete it, and add 3 circles at: 00:54:510 (6) 00:54:689 (7) and 00:54:868 (8) , you know how you should place them. I'll ask a BAT
00:56:296 (4) - Delete this circle and place the 00:56:475 (5) - slider there instead, and new circle at 00:57:189 on top of 00:57:368 (6,7) Pass
01:20:403 (4,5,1,2,3) - Patterns like these makes me think this is an Insane. Oh, yeah. spacing
02:37:457 (7,8) - Just, no. Do like in 00:54:600 (6), its too hard to follow it as a Hard difficulty map. And you called it "weird..."
02:54:689 (6) - - Would be better for this slider to start at 02:54:510 to follow the song better, place it closer to the previous object, and maybe add a spinner at the end so the map doesnt end too suddenly. Pass

Insane
01:10:760 (5,6) - Don't think so, make it end at a blue tick and not yellow one. But someone already supported this...
01:12:546 (2) - Add an object here, probably somewhere distant, and another here 01:13:082 (4), maybe on top of 01:13:439 (6). Nothing really there
02:07:903 (1,2) - Distance is too close. Too close or too far? I'm surprised someone said it was too CLOSE.
02:11:832 (8) - Delete and reverse 02:11:475 (7) If you repeat, it doesn't really end at a good place.
02:22:189 (5) - Make it end at a blue tick. Kinda the same real as above. Except it when Chen sings "ke wo yi ran gan jue xing fu wei yi de li you," that "ran" doesn't fall on the blue tick. SO this happened.
02:30:760 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - Extremely bad stream, even the other 2 weren't this bad in spacing and jump. I think I fized it in a previous mod already.
02:37:814 (13) - This wont work, delete it Moved it to the next slider
02:54:332 (9,10) - End in a better way, the slider ends in an uncomfortable position and doesnt follow the song as well as it should.

Overall, you need to practice more mapping to create your own original patterns that would actually work when playing, and of course, play other maps more often to know exactly how to make a proper difficulty spread as well as map better insanes that would be fun to play. But the insane is fun to play~
Thank you for the large help in the hard and normal~
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

[ Joey ] wrote:

Hello! I'm really sorry for the delay on the m4m!

Insane
This is the most difficult 84 bpm song I have ever seen lol I've seen HARDER
00:02:189 - Remove the whistle here, it sounds better Believe me when I say, this but actually sound BETTER with headphones.
00:07:725 (6,7) - I know you are trying to stack these, but the distance just doesn't feel good. Putting 6 at (414, 220) looks better Fized it before coming to this mod.
00:20:046 (10,11,12) - Maintain same distance OK
00:25:582 (10,11,12,13) - I don't hear a reason to add jumps like this. There are no heavy beats I'll put the thought aside for now, and think about it in another mod.
00:29:332 (1) - ctrl + g Pass
00:37:189 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - I like these, but I would prefer them closer together: http://puu.sh/agr3f/28d6b4c0ba.jpg Also the combo runs too high. Cut it in half Why
01:45:760 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - ^ Is your computer like... 1024x768 or something...?
00:38:618 (3) - ctrl + g OK
00:39:332 (5,6,7) - maintain same distance OK
00:42:546 (8,9,10) - The distance in this combo makes it really confusing. Especially this distance: 00:42:903 (9,10) - it's way too far. I highly recommend using distance snap for this combo. VUT
00:54:332 (7,8) - same problem here. It should be more obvious that this is a 1/8 note Actually more like 1/16, but Imma keep it as it is.
00:57:635 (8,9,10) - Doesn't sound like a stream belongs here. Only needs a note here: 00:57:725 Matches back voicing
01:01:118 (1,2,3,4) - Confusing distance snap again What?
01:10:760 (5,6) - Wowww this distance is huge. I highly recommend lowering it Nuuu, someone like it like this~
02:02:903 (9,10) - ^ If people know the some, if should be easy.
02:22:189 (5,6) - ^ No problem here
02:12:725 (2) - eh, I don't see a reason for this Did something with a previous mod.
02:27:010 (2) - this note is in the middle of a slider. probably an accident Yeah, that's right.
02:54:868 - This is better imo; http://puu.sh/agrR4/f67b767abe.jpg But I don't like spinner in my insane maps... It's not fair that someone can get an extra 1000 points because they can spin well like SiLvIa...
I think you should prioritize distance snap more more often, rather than trying to stack in this diff.
Your combos also run a little high
Really fun difficulty, especially for a low bpm song. Eh~

I would mod the rest of the difficulties, but I am really busy with other mods to do at the moment, and your mod was kind of short on mine =/
If I have free time, I'll come back and mod the other diffs.
I hope you understand.
Don't worry. As long as you modded something, I'm very satified.
P o M u T a
Hey Ya!

[General]
  1. why your BG 1023x767? should change 1024x768.
  2. why you used tag ',' ? this is not need imo.
  3. remove widescreen support all diff. because you not used SB.
[Normal]
  1. Normal diff AR6... i think really high this. try AR5.
  2. 00:12:189 (3,4,5) - these overlaps. looks bad. so, normal diff don't overlaps better.
  3. 00:15:046 (1,2) - ^
  4. 00:20:760 (1) - add clap slider head.
  5. 00:21:475 (2) - add clap slider reverse.
  6. 00:35:046 (4) - i want clap.
  7. 02:37:189 (4) - add clap. really fit.
[Hard]
  1. 00:51:475 (6) - add clap.
  2. 02:05:046 (3) - spacing close imo.
  3. 02:24:332 (2) - add clap slider head.
[Insane]
  1. 00:37:189 (13) - add NC..
  2. 01:45:760 (12) - ^
  3. 02:31:475 (13) - ^
map is fine!
also, nice song :D/
good luck -APXH
regards
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

P o M u T a wrote:

Hey Ya!

[General]
  1. why your BG 1023x767? should change 1024x768. It's only one pixel difference...
  2. why you used tag ',' ? this is not need imo. OK
  3. remove widescreen support all diff. because you not used SB. It's not on!! How many people are saying this!?
[Normal]
  1. Normal diff AR6... i think really high this. try AR5. OK
  2. 00:12:189 (3,4,5) - these overlaps. looks bad. so, normal diff don't overlaps better. OK
  3. 00:15:046 (1,2) - ^ OK
  4. 00:20:760 (1) - add clap slider head. OK
  5. 00:21:475 (2) - add clap slider reverse. OK
  6. 00:35:046 (4) - i want clap. You sound so demanding~
  7. 02:37:189 (4) - add clap. really fit. Oops, forgot about that.
[Hard]
  1. 00:51:475 (6) - add clap. How in the world do I miss thing ese!?
  2. 02:05:046 (3) - spacing close imo. OK
  3. 02:24:332 (2) - add clap slider head. OK
[Insane]
  1. 00:37:189 (13) - add NC..
  2. 01:45:760 (12) - ^
  3. 02:31:475 (13) - ^
    Why?...
map is fine!
also, nice song :D/
good luck -APXH
regards
Thank you catching the missing hitsounds and for shooting a star~
Dang, I forgot to thank Hinsvar for the star...
P o M u T a
WHY NC? TOO LONG.
Venellys

-APXH wrote:

P o M u T a wrote:

Hey Ya!

[General]
  1. remove widescreen support all diff. because you not used SB. It's not on!! How many people are saying this!?
it's off only on insane, the first 2 diff is on.

no kudos
came here because i like the song ^^ star~
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

VeeLaHee104 wrote:

-APXH wrote:

[General]
  1. remove widescreen support all diff. because you not used SB. It's not on!! How many people are saying this!?
it's off only on insane, the first 2 diff is on.

no kudos
came here because i like the song ^^ star~
1. I thought I did put it off... Oh well~
2. If you like the song, then mod it~
truonant
Hello M4M~ from my Mod Queue

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00:19:332 (1) – adding NC could help increase the readability
SPOILER
00:25:046 (7) – NC – helps increase readability
00:37:189 (1) – NC
01:22:189 (7) – NC
01:27:903 (7) – NC
01:33:796 (7) – NC
01:45:760 (12) – NC
02:31:475 (13) – NC

00:20:760 (1,2) – try stacking slider head and circle on top of 00:23:082 (6)
00:32:903 (3) – stack perfectly on slider head of 00:32:189 (1) – (turn off grid snap to fine tune)
00:33:082 (4) – stack perfectly on slider tail of 00:32:189 (1) – (turn off grid snap to fine tune)
00:35:760 (2) – stack perfectly on 00:35:046 (1) – (turn off grid snap to fine tune)
00:57:903 (1) - could be blanketed better - http://puu.sh/ajWM3/cf3ff7a926.jpg - don’t forget to adjust 00:59:153 (4) after
01:18:618 (3) – stack perfectly on 01:16:653 (7) -
01:43:618 (1) – could be blankted better on slider head 01:42:903 (7) –


00:09:332 (1) – could be blanketed better
00:26:475 (1) – blanket on slider tail of 00:25:760 (7) - http://puu.sh/ajYY1/26df311da4.jpg
00:43:618 (1) - could be blanketed better
00:50:760 (5) - ^
02:29:332 (1) - ^
02:35:760 (3) – blanket on 02:36:653 (5) –
02:41:475 (3) - could be blanketed better
02:44:332 (3) - ^
02:50:760 (3) - ^



00:40:046 (2) – could be blanketed better. Use ctrl+G on 00:37:903 (1) to fix - http://puu.sh/ajZFR/50563cc371.jpg
00:52:903 (6) - ^
00:56:118 (2) – blanket slider head of 00:57:189 (3) - http://puu.sh/ajZQy/ee64ab6af8.jpg
01:15:046 (5) - could be blanketed better
01:32:189 (3,4) – Perhaps use sliders that blanket slider tail of 01:30:760 (2) - http://puu.sh/ajZZO/454c97b05c.jpg
02:17:903 (3) - could be blanketed better
02:21:475 (2) - ^ http://puu.sh/ak0mA/0e969128bf.jpg
02:34:332 (2) - ^ use ctrl + g on 02:32:189 (1) to fix - http://puu.sh/ak0rs/3aea32fbcb.jpg
02:39:332 (3) – blanket on slider tail of 02:38:618 (2) –
02:43:618 (1) – blanket on slider head of 02:42:189 (6) -
Mortem
Hi, as requested from my queue.

Normal
01:25:760 (2) - Kinda big jump for this diff. Put it little bit closer to each other. (1) -> (2).
02:41:475 (4) - Same ^^ (3) -> (4).
02:46:475 (3,4) - It's cool but it's too far from each other.
02:47:903 (5,6) - Same - try to make DS like for (4,5).


Hard
00:13:618 (4,5) - Put them little bit closer to each other.
01:22:010 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - HO-HO-HO-HORY SHITTU, this is totally confusing. I can play this without miss but others who's gonna try it may fail, 'cause it's confusing. It's up to you, if you remove it, or leave it like it is. If you want to remove, don't make it so confusing.

Everything else seems fine to me.

Hope that'll helps
If not, then sorry

Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

truonant wrote:

Hello M4M~ from my Mod Queue

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00:19:332 (1) – adding NC could help increase the readability Not really looking for that, but I'll add this to the list of thing I plan on asking a bat.
SPOILER
00:25:046 (7) – NC – helps increase readability
00:37:189 (1) – NC
01:22:189 (7) – NC
01:27:903 (7) – NC
01:33:796 (7) – NC
01:45:760 (12) – NC
02:31:475 (13) – NC

00:20:760 (1,2) – try stacking slider head and circle on top of 00:23:082 (6) OK, but this was a LOT of changing around
00:32:903 (3) – stack perfectly on slider head of 00:32:189 (1) – (turn off grid snap to fine tune) OK, but I'm used to using grid snap
00:33:082 (4) – stack perfectly on slider tail of 00:32:189 (1) – (turn off grid snap to fine tune) Same as above
00:35:760 (2) – stack perfectly on 00:35:046 (1) – (turn off grid snap to fine tune) I'll pass for now
00:57:903 (1) - could be blanketed better - http://puu.sh/ajWM3/cf3ff7a926.jpg - don’t forget to adjust 00:59:153 (4) after It's how it is now
01:18:618 (3) – stack perfectly on 01:16:653 (7) Only has to move the end point one up~
01:43:618 (1) – could be blankted better on slider head 01:42:903 (7) It's fine now


00:09:332 (1) – could be blanketed better OK
00:26:475 (1) – blanket on slider tail of 00:25:760 (7) - http://puu.sh/ajYY1/26df311da4.jpg OK
00:43:618 (1) - could be blanketed better OK
00:50:760 (5) - ^ It's fine now
02:29:332 (1) - ^ OK
02:35:760 (3) – blanket on 02:36:653 (5) OK
02:41:475 (3) - could be blanketed better OK
02:44:332 (3) - ^ OK
02:50:760 (3) - ^ OK



00:40:046 (2) – could be blanketed better. Use ctrl+G on 00:37:903 (1) to fix - http://puu.sh/ajZFR/50563cc371.jpg OK
00:52:903 (6) - ^ OK
00:56:118 (2) – blanket slider head of 00:57:189 (3) - http://puu.sh/ajZQy/ee64ab6af8.jpg You mean the end, right?
01:15:046 (5) - could be blanketed better Not really looking to blanket here
01:32:189 (3,4) – Perhaps use sliders that blanket slider tail of 01:30:760 (2) - http://puu.sh/ajZZO/454c97b05c.jpg OK
02:17:903 (3) - could be blanketed better OK
02:21:475 (2) - ^ http://puu.sh/ak0mA/0e969128bf.jpg OK
02:34:332 (2) - ^ use ctrl + g on 02:32:189 (1) to fix - http://puu.sh/ak0rs/3aea32fbcb.jpg Um... I gues...?
02:39:332 (3) – blanket on slider tail of 02:38:618 (2) OK
02:43:618 (1) – blanket on slider head of 02:42:189 (6) Actually, not looking to blanket this.
It's a good think that you focus on the readability of the beatmap, but try focusing on the flow of people's beatmap. Not saying anything about your modding style, but try not to overdose the mod with just blankets.
Thank you anyways~
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

P o M u T a wrote:

WHY NC? TOO LONG.
Adding to list of thing I'll ask a BAT. (I actually do have the list on my computer)
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

Pjecoo wrote:

Hi, as requested from my queue.

Normal
01:25:760 (2) - Kinda big jump for this diff. Put it little bit closer to each other. (1) -> (2).
02:41:475 (4) - Same ^^ (3) -> (4). But that's what the distance snap did...
02:46:475 (3,4) - It's cool but it's too far from each other. Same reason as above
02:47:903 (5,6) - Same - try to make DS like for (4,5).
It is...

Hard
00:13:618 (4,5) - Put them little bit closer to each other. Distance snap.
01:22:010 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - HO-HO-HO-HORY SHITTU, this is totally confusing. I can play this without miss but others who's gonna try it may fail, 'cause it's confusing. It's up to you, if you remove it, or leave it like it is. If you want to remove, don't make it so confusing. OK

Everything else seems fine to me.

Hope that'll helps
If not, then sorry

Good Luck![/color]
Anything will always been welcome for modding~ It does help, really~
Thank you for your feedback~
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder
Ok, this beatmap has more mod than my other beatmap, despite being submitted 10 days ago...
Churcheell
Hello!

As requested by mail, sorry for the delay :3

Insane

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The main problem i can see here is that the combos are very long and the HP drain is kinda high. They don't really go well together because at parts you fail if you miss a couple of notes. Suggesting the following changes:

HP = 6.5 and:
SPOILER
00:07:903 - NC
00:14:332 - ^
00:19:332 - ^
00:25:046 - ^
00:36:475 - ^
00:37:189 - ^
00:48:260 - ^

You get the idea, most of the combos that go up to about 12 might benefit from a NC inbetween

OR HP = 6
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00:37:189 - Gap is a bit big here given the small timeframe. Close the gap a bit. You can still keep the same pattern but just make the gap a little smaller, or remove a circle on each half of the stream to widen the time gap
02:31:475 - ^

OTHER than that, i think this map is pretty beautiful, well done :D

If you like i can mod the other difficulties, but i'm best at modding harder difficulties. Send me a mail
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

Churcheell wrote:

Hello!

As requested by mail, sorry for the delay :3

Insane

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The main problem i can see here is that the combos are very long and the HP drain is kinda high. They don't really go well together because at parts you fail if you miss a couple of notes. Suggesting the following changes This map is NOT suppose to be easy for ANYONE. Even WubWoofWolf or SnowWhite.:

HP = 6.5 and:
SPOILER
00:07:903 - NC
00:14:332 - ^
00:19:332 - ^
00:25:046 - ^
00:36:475 - ^
00:37:189 - ^
00:48:260 - ^

You get the idea, most of the combos that go up to about 12 might benefit from a NC inbetween

OR HP = 6
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00:37:189 - Gap is a bit big here given the small timeframe. Close the gap a bit. You can still keep the same pattern but just make the gap a little smaller, or remove a circle on each half of the stream to widen the time gap OK
02:31:475 - ^

OTHER than that, i think this map is pretty beautiful, well done :D

If you like i can mod the other difficulties, but i'm best at modding harder difficulties. Send me a mail
But I modded all your difficulties...
FlobuFlobs
Since i cant mod hard/normals/easy one diff mod :P

insane
  1. AR8,5 should be enough for this Difficulty
  2. 00:38:796 - 00:38:885 - they are doing nothing
  3. 00:49:868 - ^
  4. 00:52:725 - ^
  5. 01:50:225 - 01:50:314 - ^
  6. 01:58:439 - ^
  7. 02:10:225 - 02:10:314 - ^
  8. 02:13:082 - 02:13:171 - ^
  9. 02:21:653 - 02:21:743 - ^
  10. 01:47:368 - 01:47:457 - ^ am i missing something? xD
  11. Use more different circle colour's at the beginninjg, it really hard to read sometimes
  12. 00:12:903 - how about this timline here to emphasize the vocals a bit better?
  13. 00:16:118 (1) - slider here too, same reason as ^
  14. 00:10:403 - ^
  15. 00:37:100 (12) - is there a reason for this big spacing here?
  16. 00:37:903 (1) - ^
  17. 00:54:868 - how about this here? it old one sounds off
  18. 00:55:314 - change this slider like that? otherwise the 2 section would be useless and like this you are emphazising both beats
  19. 01:45:046 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,1) - i dont get this 1/4 spacing, its horrible to play. its destroying this really nice map
  20. 02:30:760 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,1) - just no ^
  21. 02:49:064 (11,1) - Looks like 1/2
  22. Are not fully stacked circles like these 02:32:189 (1,3) - intentional?
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

FlobuFlobs wrote:

Since i cant mod hard/normals/easy one diff mod :P

insane
  1. AR8,5 should be enough for this Difficulty
  2. 00:38:796 - 00:38:885 - they are doing nothing
  3. 00:49:868 - ^
  4. 00:52:725 - ^
  5. 01:50:225 - 01:50:314 - ^
  6. 01:58:439 - ^
  7. 02:10:225 - 02:10:314 - ^
  8. 02:13:082 - 02:13:171 - ^
  9. 02:21:653 - 02:21:743 - ^
  10. 01:47:368 - 01:47:457 - ^ am i missing something? xD There's a beatmap called "Rohi - Kakuzetsu Thanatos." In Pokie's difficulty, there's a sliderslide7 where it's a normal deafault hitsounds combines with some drum. The normal-sliderslide3 is the same concept.
  11. Use more different circle colour's at the beginninjg, it really hard to read sometimes WAT HOW
  12. 00:12:903 - how about this timline here to emphasize the vocals a bit better? OK
  13. 00:16:118 (1) - slider here too, same reason as ^ Eh?
  14. 00:10:403 - ^
  15. 00:37:100 (12) - is there a reason for this big spacing here? DON"T TRUST ANYONE IN THIS EARTH
  16. 00:37:903 (1) - ^
  17. 00:54:868 - how about this here? it old one sounds off Pass
  18. 00:55:314 - change this slider like that? otherwise the 2 section would be useless and like this you are emphazising both beats
  19. 01:45:046 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,1) - i dont get this 1/4 spacing, its horrible to play. its destroying this really nice map
  20. 02:30:760 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,1) - just no ^
  21. 02:49:064 (11,1) - Looks like 1/2
  22. Are not fully stacked circles like these 02:32:189 (1,3) - intentional? Yep
Thank you for your feedback~ I was in Florida, so I couldn't do anything.
Faan
From my modding m4m req sorry for like 5 weeks wait (exaggeration)

Normal:
01:17:903 (1) - DS
01:26:475 (3) - ^
01:32:189 (3) - ^
01:29:332 (1) - ^
01:37:903 (4) - ^ symmetry though
01:47:189 (2) - at the start I thought it was because KIAI you wanted to reduce DS.... then I was wrong
01:55:760 (5) - DS
02:26:832 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - keep in mind this is 'normal"
02:42:189 (6,1) - blanket
02:46:475 (3,4,5,6) - DS better
02:49:332 (1,2) - curve 1 more

Hard:
00:14:332 (5) - slightly off the grid
00:20:046 (8) - maybe NC
00:21:475 (2,3,4) - sure?
00:40:582 (6) - NC instead
00:51:475 (6) - NC
00:55:046 (1) - 392,296 for first point after sharp turn
01:15:046 (1) - ugly overlap
SkinnyJommy
Hi! Here's the mod from my queue

I'm still a little new to modding, so don't expect much

[Insane]

00:01:832 (3) - Move this to blanket the first slider better, you can see it is not in the middle

00:13:618 (6,7) - These notes kind of disrupt the flow of the song here, consider moving somewhere else on the map

00:23:796 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This part is very confusing, consider more spacing on these notes please

00:35:760 (2) - Space this note out a little farther, so people can read it easier, because people will think that you click it right after the first slider, because its right on top of it, if you understand what im saying

00:37:903 Why is there no Kiai time here?

00:40:760 (1) - Really bad spot for this note imo, consider moving it to 216, 148. It flows a lot better here

00:42:546 (8) - There's no reason for this to be a 1/8 slider, but 00:42:903 (9) - should be, just not 8

00:47:903 (6,7) - This is a very awkward sequence here, consider changing this pattenr up a bit

00:52:189 (1) - This shouldn't be so close to 9 because they are the same distance apart on the timeline, if that makes sense, make it more readable with more spacing

00:59:332 (1) - This slider will definitely break people's combos if they havent played your map before, i agree that it should be slowed down, but not by that much, so change the slider velocity to .50, and make it a return slider. ALSO move it to 124, 40 to better blanket 00:58:618 (3) -

00:59:332 (1) - if you do this ^ you will need to add a clap at the head of this slider at 01:00:760

01:45:671 (11,12) - I think this slider gap is a bit to big

01:46:385 (19,1) - This is WAYYYYYY to big of a gap, and placement of 1 makes this extremely difficult to hit, try to keep it in line with the stream, heres an example

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1900070

01:46:475 I believe Kiai time is appropriate here

01:56:118 (5) - spacing issue here, make it a little farther so it's easier to read

02:07:903 (1) - like the same issue as before, its slowed down to much, people would never expect it, so change the SV, and make the note a little longer

02:31:385 (12,13) - the stream gap is to big here

02:32:100 (20,1) - to big of a gap here too

02:32:725 (2) - try to avoid overlapping notes, unless its completely necessary

Well that's it for my mod! Hopefully this helped you a little bit

Really nice song, I like it

GL with this map! :D
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

Faan wrote:

From my modding m4m req sorry for like 5 weeks wait (exaggeration)

Normal:
01:17:903 (1) - DS OK
01:26:475 (3) - ^ It's fine, apparently
01:32:189 (3) - ^ OK
01:29:332 (1) - ^ It's fine, apparently
01:37:903 (4) - ^ symmetry though Huh?
01:47:189 (2) - at the start I thought it was because KIAI you wanted to reduce DS.... then I was wrong Most of the map, if not all is already in distance snap.
01:55:760 (5) - DS Changed
02:26:832 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - keep in mind this is 'normal" OK
02:42:189 (6,1) - blanket OK
02:46:475 (3,4,5,6) - DS better OK
02:49:332 (1,2) - curve 1 more Eh?

Hard:
00:14:332 (5) - slightly off the grid I'd be more of a problem is it was OFF the grid as a whole
00:20:046 (8) - maybe NC Nah
00:21:475 (2,3,4) - sure? Fixed
00:40:582 (6) - NC instead Pass
00:51:475 (6) - NC Pass
00:55:046 (1) - 392,296 for first point after sharp turn Just redid slider as a whole
01:15:046 (1) - ugly overlap Fixed
Thank you for your feedback~
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

skinnyjimmy wrote:

Hi! Here's the mod from my queue

I'm still a little new to modding, so don't expect much

[Insane]

00:01:832 (3) - Move this to blanket the first slider better, you can see it is not in the middle Because of the stacking of slider 1 and circle 2, it actually moves location when in actual play, if you actually played the map...

00:13:618 (6,7) - These notes kind of disrupt the flow of the song here, consider moving somewhere else on the map It's fine

00:23:796 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This part is very confusing, consider more spacing on these notes please Made it more visible

00:35:760 (2) - Space this note out a little farther, so people can read it easier, because people will think that you click it right after the first slider, because its right on top of it, if you understand what im saying I can read it. Plus, I'm not the best Insane PLAYER, so there are PLENTIFULY amounts of people that can.

00:37:903 Why is there no Kiai time here? Too flashy...

00:40:760 (1) - Really bad spot for this note imo, consider moving it to 216, 148. It flows a lot better here

00:42:546 (8) - There's no reason for this to be a 1/8 slider, but 00:42:903 (9) - should be, just not 8 It's more like 3/4, but whatever

00:47:903 (6,7) - This is a very awkward sequence here, consider changing this pattenr up a bit If you look at slider 3, it kinda looks like a continuation.

00:52:189 (1) - This shouldn't be so close to 9 because they are the same distance apart on the timeline, if that makes sense, make it more readable with more spacing It's a triangle~

00:59:332 (1) - This slider will definitely break people's combos if they havent played your map before, i agree that it should be slowed down, but not by that much, so change the slider velocity to .50, and make it a return slider. ALSO move it to 124, 40 to better blanket 00:58:618 (3) Pass, and yes, I have PLAYED the map.

00:59:332 (1) - if you do this ^ you will need to add a clap at the head of this slider at 01:00:760 You think I would already have known that?

01:45:671 (11,12) - I think this slider gap is a bit to big Could someone tell me that to Lan Wings, then?

01:46:385 (19,1) - This is WAYYYYYY to big of a gap, and placement of 1 makes this extremely difficult to hit, try to keep it in line with the stream, heres an example

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1900070

01:46:475 I believe Kiai time is appropriate here Still to flashy. I usually don't use it until the end, most of the time

01:56:118 (5) - spacing issue here, make it a little farther so it's easier to read Moved

02:07:903 (1) - like the same issue as before, its slowed down to much, people would never expect it, so change the SV, and make the note a little longer I already have this on my list of things to ask a BAT.

02:31:385 (12,13) - the stream gap is to big here OK

02:32:100 (20,1) - to big of a gap here too OK

02:32:725 (2) - try to avoid overlapping notes, unless its completely necessary Well, just be grateful I didn't have the end of the slider NEXT to the circle in sequence.

Well that's it for my mod! Hopefully this helped you a little bit

Really nice song, I like it

GL with this map! :D
Thank you for your feed back~
Seijiro
Hi there :3 Here's my mod from my modding queue requested centuries ago :3 (I know I'm a lot late, sorry)

[Insane]

  1. 00:37:189 (13) - I can accept the little jump, but better put a new combo from here
  2. 00:42:546 (8) - NC also here. You use the same spacing of the current combo, yet the notes haven't it and it's confusing for the player. Adding a NC solves it imo
  3. 01:10:760 (1,2) - Such a jump o.O
  4. 01:12:189 (1) - Since the notes have the same time space between them better remove NC
  5. 01:13:260 (3) - Put here the previous NC
  6. 01:45:760 (12) - You really need a NC here (already explained above)
  7. 02:08:618 (2) - Why so far away from the previous note?
  8. 02:31:475 (13) - Once again you need a NC
  9. Why the black combos? They're really out of place imo
[Hard]

  1. 00:26:475 (1,2) - What's this o.O? You can't do such a jump on a Hard diff
  2. 00:40:582 (6) - The NC goes here and not 00:40:760 (1) here
  3. 00:46:296 (5) - Same ^
  4. 00:59:332 (1) - Every 2 ticks (or decide you how much) decrease the volume
[Normal]

  1. 02:06:475 (1) - It doesn't fit the song imo
That's all from me, see ya ;)
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder
Will get to modding as soon as I find wifi; I'm taking a vacation in Vietnam.
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

[-MrSergio-] wrote:

Hi there :3 Here's my mod from my modding queue requested centuries ago :3 (I know I'm a lot late, sorry)

[Insane]

  1. 00:37:189 (13) - I can accept the little jump, but better put a new combo from here OK. I also applied this to the other times
  2. 00:42:546 (8) - NC also here. You use the same spacing of the current combo, yet the notes haven't it and it's confusing for the player. Adding a NC solves it imo From which slider to which slider?
  3. 01:10:760 (1,2) - Such a jump o.O Try telling that to Hollow Wings
  4. 01:12:189 (1) - Since the notes have the same time space between them better remove NC I thought it was originally confusing. I think someone already pointed out that, though.
  5. 01:13:260 (3) - Put here the previous NC
  6. 01:45:760 (12) - You really need a NC here (already explained above) Did that already
  7. 02:08:618 (2) - Why so far away from the previous note? I ask the BAT
  8. 02:31:475 (13) - Once again you need a NC OK
  9. Why the black combos? They're really out of place imo I have that for now; I'll make a decision when I get home from vacation.
[Hard]

  1. 00:26:475 (1,2) - What's this o.O? You can't do such a jump on a Hard diff Oh, how did that happen in the first place?
  2. 00:40:582 (6) - The NC goes here and not 00:40:760 (1) here I put the new combo here mainly because of "bass?"
  3. 00:46:296 (5) - Same ^ ^
  4. 00:59:332 (1) - Every 2 ticks (or decide you how much) decrease the volume Pass. I don't like having the sound of the spinner in such nice songs, or any of my beatmaps in general.
[Normal]

  1. 02:06:475 (1) - It doesn't fit the song imo How so?
That's all from me, see ya ;)
Thank you for your feedback~
SoGa
Hi from SoGa's Modding Queue

[General]

  1. No Prob.
[Normal]

  1. 00:43:618 (1,2) - Fix Blancket?
  2. 01:46:475 (1) - x:152 y:128

    Good
[Hard]

  1. 00:44:868 (3) - Stack?
  2. 02:32:189 (1,2,3,4) - Not flow
  3. 02:43:975 (2) - Ctrl + G ?
[Insane]

  1. 02:41:475 (3,5) - Ctrrl + G?

    Nothing more
Sry for this poor mod. :? :? :(
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

SoGa wrote:

Hi from SoGa's Modding Queue

[General]

  1. No Prob.
[Normal]

  1. 00:43:618 (1,2) - Fix Blancket? OK
  2. 01:46:475 (1) - x:152 y:128 OK

    Good
[Hard]

  1. 00:44:868 (3) - Stack? Distance snap won't let me.
  2. 02:32:189 (1,2,3,4) - Not flow
  3. 02:43:975 (2) - Ctrl + G ? OK
[Insane]

  1. 02:41:475 (3,5) - Ctrrl + G? Nah

    Nothing more
Sry for this poor mod. :? :? :(
All mods are welcomed, even it it's just one thing~
Thank you for the feedback~
Hollow Wings
from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

Chinese song? one star in advance www

General

  1. combo color 2 and 3 r too similiar, plz change one for easier reading sets

Insane

  1. 00:00:761 (1,3) - perfect this blanket
  2. 00:04:510 (3,5) - blanket
  3. 00:10:225 (3,5) - ^, maybe check these detail or nazi issues by urself
  4. 00:25:046 (7) - nc
  5. 00:27:903 (5,6) - don't overlap 6's arrow
  6. 02:24:332 (3,5) - same as above
  7. rhythms' good to me, thou composings' too random. just map and mod more map, and see other normal or even pro mappers how they deal with their composing in organizations

Hard

  1. 00:21:653 (3,4) - stack at 00:19:510 (6,7) - and move 00:21:475 (2) - to make a regular triangle here
  2. 01:33:975 (7,8) - avoid this overlap
  3. 02:33:260 (6,7) - maybe blanket
  4. almost same words in insane diff

Normal

  1. 01:39:332 (5,1) - don't overlap that arrow
  2. 01:52:189 (1,2) - nearly touched, maybe spread them
"你的世界“ is actually "your world" in English, and "into your world" is "进入你的世界" in Chinese lol

good luck
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

Hollow Wings wrote:

from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

Chinese song? one star in advance www Yay~

General

  1. combo color 2 and 3 r too similiar, plz change one for easier reading sets So... Much... Work...

Insane

  1. 00:00:761 (1,3) - perfect this blanket Actually, it looks fine in actual play:
  2. 00:04:510 (3,5) - blanket OK
  3. 00:10:225 (3,5) - ^, maybe check these detail or nazi issues by urself Fixed
  4. 00:25:046 (7) - nc Pass
  5. 00:27:903 (5,6) - don't overlap 6's arrow OK
  6. 02:24:332 (3,5) - same as above OK
  7. rhythms' good to me, thou composings' too random. just map and mod more map, and see other normal or even pro mappers how they deal with their composing in organizations

Hard

  1. 00:21:653 (3,4) - stack at 00:19:510 (6,7) - and move 00:21:475 (2) - to make a regular triangle here OK
  2. 01:33:975 (7,8) - avoid this overlap OK
  3. 02:33:260 (6,7) - maybe blanket attempted try to make it a blanket.
  4. almost same words in insane diff

Normal

  1. 01:39:332 (5,1) - don't overlap that arrow OK
  2. 01:52:189 (1,2) - nearly touched, maybe spread them I spread them out, but not by a lot because of distance snap.
"你的世界“ is actually "your world" in English, and "into your world" is "进入你的世界" in Chinese lol Actually, I've been battling my head about this. I got the English title from this Wikipedia article. However, if I get noticed by a Chinese speaking XAT, I'll try asking if they can give a re-check.

good luck
Thank you for your feedback.
Is your own queue still open? Not the one I got this mod from, your own.
DizzeY
Good day from rakutenshi mod que~
[Insane]
00:19:332 (7) - NC
00:23:618 (1) - Stack with (3)
00:47:189 (3) - Replace with circles
01:16:118 (5,6) - Turn into 1 slider
[Hard]
00:34:332 (5,1) - Blanket
00:40:403 (6) - add a circle
00:44:868 (3) - Stack with (1) slider's end
00:54:600 (6) - Curve
02:14:689 (6) - Stack with (1)
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

TheDizzeY wrote:

Good day from rakutenshi mod que~
[Insane]
00:19:332 (7) - NC
00:23:618 (1) - Stack with (3)
00:47:189 (3) - Replace with circles
01:16:118 (5,6) - Turn into 1 slider
[Hard]
00:34:332 (5,1) - Blanket Well, I made it blanket the end of slider 5 because of distance snap.
00:40:403 (6) - add a circle
00:44:868 (3) - Stack with (1) slider's end OK
00:54:600 (6) - Curve
02:14:689 (6) - Stack with (1)
Thank you for the feedback~
DeletedUser_1574070
[Insane]

01:32:010 (10) - put this on 140:220, it might help feel the note 'pulled'
01:34:689 (12) - try this. it might have better flow http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1995941
01:58:260 (3) - try ctrl+G?
02:05:046 (7) - again
02:53:439 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - i think antijump is more suitable for the atmosphere of the song.

[Hard]
00:20:046 (8,9,10) - should shape like 00:19:332 (5,6,7) -
01:23:618 (1) - 228:220
01:38:618 (3,4,5) - try this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1995949
02:39:332 (3) - a circle is needed before imo... if u put circle on 02:39:332 (3) - , u might change the position of this slider. remember
02:51:832 (4) - drastic antijump need ncs

GL
Shohei Ohtani
edgy signatures for the best of the best

Insane:
00:01:653 (2,3) - This spacing is super weird to start off with since it's so big.
00:07:546 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - This is probably gonna set up how the rest of this mod is gonna go so uh. . . uh, yeah. When dealing with slow music, the way to make it enjoyable isn't to overmap it. That would be bad. Bad bad. What you need to do is give it momentum without having players feeling like they're playing a much faster map. I always like to link people this map when I'm talking about that: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/97488. The map is super jumpy, yeah, but I never feel rushed to do anything. I never feel like it's overmapped and that I'm working harder than I should be. With this map, I'm working much harder than I should. Because of this statement, I won't point out jump issues unless they're either incredibly crucial, or i feel i need to point it out. But mostly, I want you to take it on your part to look at the map and evaluate how to not make it seem harder than it should be.
00:19:332 (7,8,9) - Patterns like this usually don't work unless there's some vocal cue for the sudden jump back.
00:20:046 (10) - a
00:37:903 - You know, the slider speed here isn't that bad. So it looks like your verses are the issue in this map. Granted, it still isn't great, but it makes a little more sense.
00:42:546 (8,9) - but y the extension
00:54:332 (7) - The odd thing about this extension is that you're spacing out the note after farther than the note before.
00:57:635 (8,9,10) - Not really neccesary
00:59:421 (1) - nope. nah. ni. it doesn't even really go with the music tbh so
01:24:153 (2) - Overlaps like this usually don't look very nice and make the map look very cluttered.
01:32:010 (10,1) - are you just like screwing with me now or
02:06:118 (10,11,1) - go ahead and play this in the editor and tell me that that plays nicely. because it probably doesn't.
02:54:689 (10) - there's not really syllables here so don't emphasize it if they don't exist.

Are there strokes of genius in this map? Sure. The choruses can be very nice at times with the higher sv and stuff, but the main issue is that the map tries too hard to be too. . . for lack of better word, hard :P.

Hard:
00:30:225 (2,3) - no i was enjoying the consistent spacing pls no
00:48:618 (6,7) - Is there any way you could re-adjust this to make it more readable?
01:04:332 (2,3,4) - Suddenly down to lower spacing than the beginning?
01:40:403 (6,1) - go ahead and play this in the editor and tell me that it plays well
02:02:010 (3,4) - have a re-thought processing of this spacing and justify why you did this, and if you can't do it logically, then change it :P
02:54:689 (6) - Same as insane

Normal:
00:30:046 (4) - NC
As a general comment, a lot of people don't like having stacks in beginner diffs. I don't see what the problem is, but be aware of it and possibly change it.

if 95% of mappers could just remember that insane diffs don't have to be jump fests than 95% of mappers would be better mappers.
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

Kloyd wrote:

[Insane]

01:32:010 (10) - put this on 140:220, it might help feel the note 'pulled' Pass
01:34:689 (12) - try this. it might have better flow http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1995941 Pass
01:58:260 (3) - try ctrl+G? OK
02:05:046 (7) - again Half-pass
02:53:439 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - i think antijump is more suitable for the atmosphere of the song. This is jumpy?

[Hard]
00:20:046 (8,9,10) - should shape like 00:19:332 (5,6,7) OK
01:23:618 (1) - 228:220 OK
01:38:618 (3,4,5) - try this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1995949 OK
02:39:332 (3) - a circle is needed before imo... if u put circle on 02:39:332 (3) - , u might change the position of this slider. remember
02:51:832 (4) - drastic antijump need ncs Pass

GL
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

CDFA wrote:

edgy signatures for the best of the best

Insane:
00:01:653 (2,3) - This spacing is super weird to start off with since it's so big.
00:07:546 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - This is probably gonna set up how the rest of this mod is gonna go so uh. . . uh, yeah. When dealing with slow music, the way to make it enjoyable isn't to overmap it. That would be bad. Bad bad. What you need to do is give it momentum without having players feeling like they're playing a much faster map. I always like to link people this map when I'm talking about that: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/97488. The map is super jumpy, yeah, but I never feel rushed to do anything. I never feel like it's overmapped and that I'm working harder than I should be. With this map, I'm working much harder than I should. Because of this statement, I won't point out jump issues unless they're either incredibly crucial, or i feel i need to point it out. But mostly, I want you to take it on your part to look at the map and evaluate how to not make it seem harder than it should be. I changed 10, but this is coming from a person who ctrl+c, ctrl+v, reverses and flips a whole phrase of a chorus of a beatmap and doesn't know how to snap timing points correctly.
00:19:332 (7,8,9) - Patterns like this usually don't work unless there's some vocal cue for the sudden jump back.
00:20:046 (10) - a A what?
00:37:903 - You know, the slider speed here isn't that bad. So it looks like your verses are the issue in this map. Granted, it still isn't great, but it makes a little more sense.
00:42:546 (8,9) - but y the extension I changed 8, but learn how to spell why properly...
00:54:332 (7) - The odd thing about this extension is that you're spacing out the note after farther than the note before.
00:57:635 (8,9,10) - Not really neccesary
00:59:421 (1) - nope. nah. ni. it doesn't even really go with the music tbh so Changed spacing
01:24:153 (2) - Overlaps like this usually don't look very nice and make the map look very cluttered.
01:32:010 (10,1) - are you just like screwing with me now or making you know how us mappers with SO much experience but no ranked maps feel with a BAT gets a mapped ranked with SO MANY COMPLAINS FLOODING IN THE COMMENTS of the beatmap.
02:06:118 (10,11,1) - go ahead and play this in the editor and tell me that that plays nicely. because it probably doesn't. What computer do you own...
02:54:689 (10) - there's not really syllables here so don't emphasize it if they don't exist.

Are there strokes of genius in this map? Sure. The choruses can be very nice at times with the higher sv and stuff, but the main issue is that the map tries too hard to be too. . . for lack of better word, hard :P.

Hard:
00:30:225 (2,3) - no i was enjoying the consistent spacing pls no Fixed
00:48:618 (6,7) - Is there any way you could re-adjust this to make it more readable? Fixed
01:04:332 (2,3,4) - Suddenly down to lower spacing than the beginning? Fixed
01:40:403 (6,1) - go ahead and play this in the editor and tell me that it plays well What computer do you own...
02:02:010 (3,4) - have a re-thought processing of this spacing and justify why you did this, and if you can't do it logically, then change it :P Changed, something happened to the spacing during the making
02:54:689 (6) - Same as insane

Normal:
00:30:046 (4) - NC
As a general comment, a lot of people don't like having stacks in beginner diffs. I don't see what the problem is, but be aware of it and possibly change it.

if 95% of mappers could just remember that insane diffs don't have to be jump fests than 95% of mappers would be better mappers. Yeah, but there's a reason why people can't possibly FL Amamiya Yuko, [ HalLoWeeN ], or AngelHoney's maps.
Ok, thank you for your time~
The Girls
Hi Nana~ from Nana's Mod Queue

[Normal]
  1. Just saw you've gotten BAT mods....but still, I'm weary about the DS that comes up in AiMod.
[Hard]
  1. 00:05:046 (3) - I don't think long linear sliders are fitting for the song. Consider something smoother. Even a slight curve to the slider would benefit the mood of the song.
  2. 00:10:774 (4) - ^
  3. 00:26:475 (1) - Fix Blanket.
  4. 00:36:475 (4) - Like this. What you at the moment doesn't fit the song.
  5. 00:57:546 (7) - Just copy and reverse (4). Looks odd as it is now.
  6. 01:07:189 (2, 3) - ugly overlay. Try this
  7. 01:20:403 - I would remap this entire area. Circle spams that are just within the DS between each other but with no underlining pattern damages the quality of the your map.
  8. 01:33:618 - SPace these evenly compared to the DS previous
[Insane]
  1. 00:00:761 (1) - I went thru a bit of your map already. Not sure why this is the way it is. If you are trying to blanket. The edge is off.
  2. 00:05:046 (5) - Blanket.
  3. 00:10:760 (5) - ^
  4. 00:12:546 (3) - Looks better if you continue with the flow like this.
  5. 00:37:189 (1) - This is probably an unnecessary jump. Overall, some of your jumps just don't fit the song I think. If you break this up the way you did, it makes the map choppy for a smooth ballad.
  6. 01:11:385 (2) - This has like no ranked appeal. Its not fun to lose your combo to jumps that are unreasoanble.
  7. 01:17:189 (9) - Ctrl + G for flow. You switch from windmill/alternating ovals to choppy slider breaks. Hurts the smoothness of the song.
  8. 02:37:189 (11) - Reverse curve of the slider. for better flow.
  9. 02:41:475 (3) - Ctrl + G
  10. 02:42:189 (5) - ^
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

The Girls wrote:

Hi Nana~ from Nana's Mod Queue

[Normal]
  1. Just saw you've gotten BAT mods....but still, I'm weary about the DS that comes up in AiMod. I would be worried about the distance for the Normal and the Hard. On top of that, despire all me effort to change, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE MESSAGE.
[Hard]
  1. 00:05:046 (3) - I don't think long linear sliders are fitting for the song. Consider something smoother. Even a slight curve to the slider would benefit the mood of the song. OK
  2. 00:10:774 (4) - ^ OK
  3. 00:26:475 (1) - Fix Blanket. It blankets the end of the previous slider
  4. 00:36:475 (4) - Like this. What you at the moment doesn't fit the song. OK
  5. 00:57:546 (7) - Just copy and reverse (4). Looks odd as it is now. How?
  6. 01:07:189 (2, 3) - ugly overlay. Try this Oh, didn't know that happened.
  7. 01:20:403 - I would remap this entire area. Circle spams that are just within the DS between each other but with no underlining pattern damages the quality of the your map. Well, blame SM.
  8. 01:33:618 - SPace these evenly compared to the DS previous OK
[Insane]
  1. 00:00:761 (1) - I went thru a bit of your map already. Not sure why this is the way it is. If you are trying to blanket. The edge is off. Refer to my feedback from Hollow Wings.
  2. 00:05:046 (5) - Blanket. OK
  3. 00:10:760 (5) - ^ OK
  4. 00:12:546 (3) - Looks better if you continue with the flow like this. How?
  5. 00:37:189 (1) - This is probably an unnecessary jump. Overall, some of your jumps just don't fit the song I think. If you break this up the way you did, it makes the map choppy for a smooth ballad. Well, at least I didn't divide it fourths...
  6. 01:11:385 (2) - This has like no ranked appeal. Its not fun to lose your combo to jumps that are unreasoanble. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/100348 *Cough* *Cough* There's no difference.
  7. 01:17:189 (9) - Ctrl + G for flow. You switch from windmill/alternating ovals to choppy slider breaks. Hurts the smoothness of the song.
  8. 02:37:189 (11) - Reverse curve of the slider. for better flow. There were modders who told my to switch this between, so I just got sick of hearing it.
  9. 02:41:475 (3) - Ctrl + G
  10. 02:42:189 (5) - ^
Thank you for your feedback and time~
Cloudchaser
Hi, M4M request from my queue!

General
  1. Your current BG size is 1023x767 which it isn't rankeable by the rules. It must be 1024x768.
  2. Make shorter your combos, it's kinda difficult to read while playing. Try putting NC in downbeats.
Insane
  1. Make shorter your combos, it's kinda difficult to read while playing. Try putting NC in downbeats.
  2. Circles or notes CAN'T be silenced, it needs to be audible to all people. Use volume 20% instead of 10% or 5%.
  3. 00:19:332 - NC here
  4. 00:25:046 - Here too
  5. 01:11:475 (2,1) - This 1/8 jump is really unnecessary, also break the your flow.
  6. 01:16:475 (1) - NC
  7. 01:22:189 (1) - ^
  8. 01:27:903 (1) - ^
  9. 01:33:618 (1) - ^
  10. 01:36:475 (1) - ^
  11. 01:39:332 (1) - ^
  12. 02:07:903 (1,2) - The transition of these notes is kinda awkward because of the different SVs. Consider this point!

    Won't bother you with NCs haha this diff seems so funny to play.
Hard
  1. 00:22:189 (5,1) - Fix the distance of these notes.
  2. 00:35:939 (2) - NC because rhythm changes.
  3. 01:04:689 (4,5) - Stack better this note
  4. 01:06:475 (1) - I suggest you move the slider's tail a bit down to make a better flow.
  5. 01:30:582 (2,3) - Can you make something like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2054729
  6. 01:45:760 (5) - NC for same reason of above><
  7. 01:58:260 (2,3,4) - Did you change the DS intentionally here? Use the same than the rest of the diff
  8. 02:31:475 (1) - NC
Normal
  1. 00:06:475 (1) - NC, because it was too long.
  2. 00:35:225 (1) - Move this spinner to the next blue point, it's difficult for a beginner that sudden spinner.
  3. 00:57:993 (1) - ^
  4. 01:20:760 (3) - Improve the flow placing this note like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2054766 and obviously, fix the other notes as well!
  5. 01:47:189 (2,4) - polish the blankets http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2054775 ; http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2054776
  6. 01:55:760 (1) - NC here because the pattern was too long
  7. 02:01:117 (5) - NC because downbeat
  8. 02:29:421 (1) - You know what would I say here!
  9. 02:34:332 (2) - Polish this blanket better!
My best wishes to your map! :3
Topic Starter
Aeonian Sonder

Cloudchaser wrote:

Hi, M4M request from my queue!

General
  1. Your current BG size is 1023x767 which it isn't rankeable by the rules. It must be 1024x768.
  2. Make shorter your combos, it's kinda difficult to read while playing. Try putting NC in downbeats.
Insane
  1. Make shorter your combos, it's kinda difficult to read while playing. Try putting NC in downbeats.
  2. Circles or notes CAN'T be silenced, it needs to be audible to all people. Use volume 20% instead of 10% or 5%.
  3. 00:19:332 - NC here
  4. 00:25:046 - Here too
  5. 01:11:475 (2,1) - This 1/8 jump is really unnecessary, also break the your flow. OK
  6. 01:16:475 (1) - NC
  7. 01:22:189 (1) - ^
  8. 01:27:903 (1) - ^
  9. 01:33:618 (1) - ^
  10. 01:36:475 (1) - ^
  11. 01:39:332 (1) - ^
  12. 02:07:903 (1,2) - The transition of these notes is kinda awkward because of the different SVs. Consider this point!

    Won't bother you with NCs haha this diff seems so funny to play.
Hard
  1. 00:22:189 (5,1) - Fix the distance of these notes. Added two notes to make it "less awkward."
  2. 00:35:939 (2) - NC because rhythm changes.
  3. 01:04:689 (4,5) - Stack better this note
  4. 01:06:475 (1) - I suggest you move the slider's tail a bit down to make a better flow. Made it uncurved
  5. 01:30:582 (2,3) - Can you make something like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2054729 OK
  6. 01:45:760 (5) - NC for same reason of above><
  7. 01:58:260 (2,3,4) - Did you change the DS intentionally here? Use the same than the rest of the diff I can't even...
  8. 02:31:475 (1) - NC
Normal
  1. 00:06:475 (1) - NC, because it was too long.
  2. 00:35:225 (1) - Move this spinner to the next blue point, it's difficult for a beginner that sudden spinner.
  3. 00:57:993 (1) - ^
  4. 01:20:760 (3) - Improve the flow placing this note like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2054766 and obviously, fix the other notes as well! OK
  5. 01:47:189 (2,4) - polish the blankets http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2054775 ; http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2054776 OK
  6. 01:55:760 (1) - NC here because the pattern was too long
  7. 02:01:117 (5) - NC because downbeat
  8. 02:29:421 (1) - You know what would I say here!
  9. 02:34:332 (2) - Polish this blanket better! OK
My best wishes to your map! :3
Thank you for you feedback~
Natsu
M4M from my Queue

General:

  1. About your black combo colour there is current a discussion about it : p/3368166 , also I feel that colour doesn't fit your BG
  2. your bg have weird dimensions, 1023x767 ---> 1024x768
  3. Tick rate 2 fit this song best!
Insane:

  1. 00:05:046 (5) - try to don't end sliders in stanzas, since the one at 00:06:475 - should be mapped as a circle or slider head, due to that place is where a new section in the music/vocals is starting
  2. 00:10:225 why are you ignoring this drum, but mapping the same one in 00:10:582
  3. 00:11:832 (7) - why no whistles? since you added one in 00:13:260 (5) - which is similar to the one that I'm pointing
  4. 00:12:903 (4) - ^
  5. 00:16:475 (5) - exactly the same as 00:05:046
  6. 00:18:260 (2,3) - this kind of manual stacks doesn't play good, since them look like antijumps, when them are not >:
  7. 00:37:100 (12,1) - I'm not really a fan of this stream jumps in this calm song >: (there are other cases)
  8. 00:42:546 (8) - a single circle will fit the music better, since there is nothing in the tail of this slider (there are a lot of other cases)
  9. 00:59:332 (1) - well this slider is really unexpected, 0.50 sv will work better, when thest playing I broke combo cause of this
  10. 01:36:832 (8,10) - are these kinds of overlaps on purpose? since them doesn't look nice, to be honest
  11. 01:45:046 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same with stream jumps, plus the straight shape make them feel too fast for the song
  12. 02:06:118 (10,11) - this 1/8 jumps really don't fit this kind of song IMO
  13. 02:07:903 (1,2) - atleast use different colours for slowdowns and speed up , since this unreadable D:, plus tick rate 1 don't help too much here
  14. 02:12:725 (2) - this should be in 1/8 according to the music
  15. 02:30:760 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - same opinion about other streams, probably having curve shapes and not stream jumps wil fit better this song
  16. 02:37:546 (12,13) - this 1/8 jumps are really surprising, since they look like 1/4 spacing
  17. 02:11:475 (7) - 02:12:903 (3) - those slider are really weird to play, due to where you snap the end, is better if you keep them in 1/8
  18. 02:54:689 (10) - this object is almost inaudible, if there is nothing in the music, the don't map it :c
Hard:

  1. OD +1
  2. 00:22:189 (5,6,7,1) - not a really fan of this, since is kinda not nice when playing, not a big prob tho!
  3. 00:28:975 this beat is kinda important to be ignored >:
  4. 00:34:332 (5,1,2,3) - why the overlaps? space this properly
  5. 01:21:296 (3,6) - your diff is going really clean, but some overlaps like this one are not nice IMO
  6. 01:38:618 (3,4) - ^
  7. 01:46:475 (1,2,3) - make the spacing consistent here?
  8. 01:49:332 (1,2,3) - ^
  9. 02:14:689 (6,1) - is this manual stack on purpose? since look not nice (maybe just me)
  10. 02:26:832 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - spacing?
  11. 02:30:760 (4,5,6,7,1) - I prefer how this was done before, this look kinda difficult for a hard diff
  12. 02:37:457 (7) - what is this slider following? is really confused, it should start in 02:37:546
  13. 02:54:689 same as insane, make this audible or remove it, will be better
Normal:

  1. 00:12:903 (4,5) - if posible try to don't overlap objects like this, just cuz doesn't look nice
  2. 00:13:618 (5,1) - this kind of patterns will be really confused to play for new players, try to avoid using antijumps and stacks as posible, (since you don't have an easy diff)
  3. 00:34:332 (3,4) - this 1/4 pattern probably will be not acceptable, since the transition slider/circle at this gap in the timeline will be really hard to play for newplayers
  4. 00:54:332 (8,1) - just for example this one is ok, since the transition is slider to slider
  5. 00:37:903 (1) - probaby too soon after a spinner
  6. 00:45:046 (2,3,4) - spacing
  7. 00:55:046 (1,2,3) - ^
  8. well your spacing is really inconsistent in this diff and this is the ¨easy¨ diff in the set, even if labeled as ¨Normal¨ you must keep the spacing the same all the way
  9. 01:12:903 (1) - same as 00:37:903
  10. 01:46:475 (1) - ^
  11. 01:53:439 (2,3) - I prefer if you remove , but maybe just me , actually I'm kinda unsure about this one
  12. 01:56:832 (8,9) - don't use different gaps in stacks, use all 1/2 or al 1/4, but not both, cuz this will be really confused to play for a newbie
  13. 02:32:189 (1) - probably too soon after a spinner
  14. 02:37:189 (4,1) - same about stacks as 01:56:832
  15. 02:54:689 (5) - same as the other diff
I think you can work more on insane and normal >:, anyways GL
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