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pishifat
squirrel re:
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Squirrel wrote:

This song is so niceee ~ great choice!! :3
-coughuhmmod from queuecough-
keep in mind this is just my opinion, feel free to disagree!

General
  1. background looks fine, but combo colours don't really match with it that well (imo)
    try to find better ones? (replace green with some dark orange eg or use some white colour, it goes well with the landscape!)will do
Normal
mostly visual stuff, diff looks okay so far :3 -
  1. 00:11:783 (1) - use rotated version of 00:09:937 (3) - maybe? it does look a bit out of place changed
  2. 00:11:783 (1,2,3,4) - a non-zigzag pattern would match the song here better, imo
    cause the part is still rather calm and relaxing, so it'd work better if it flows nicely i like this more the current way :/that way 3 doesn't overlap with 00:15:476 (1) - too!
  3. 00:40:399 (5,2) - hmh, this overlap is meh, as well. >< (just doesn't look good to me, sorry!)
    try to move one of them so they don't overlap? changed
  4. 00:44:091 (4) - you can improve the flow here a lot if you create a circle with 00:43:168 (3) - and 00:45:014 (1) - (try to follow the way the previous slider indicate. this pattern for example looks great, but the actual movement feels unnatural. it'd feel more natural if you use the circle pattern from above or let the sliders move like this - http://puu.sh/9kTF9/e2b5b88231.png c: ) don't really know what you mean. both of those screenshots are broken :(
  5. 01:02:553 (6,1) - I know you just blanketed this, but I'd prefer if you move the circle somewhere else, so it doesn't overlap that much (144|232?)
    it's totally okay, but cause this is the easiest difficulty you should try to make it a tiny little bit easier than the average Normal diff, to make sure that even beginner players don't fail that hard. >: (beginners wanna play your map too..!)
    and overlaps are really hard to read for them. s: changed. i tried to make it easier than most normals but i failed ;-;
  6. 01:10:860 (1,2,3,4) - make this a perfect square? move 2 to 144|240 and 3 to 232|244 :3 changed (and rotated a bit too :3)
overall it looks okay. :3 I don't particulary like the flow, but that's most likely just my taste. ~ xD
anyway, on another note, take a look here - http://puu.sh/9kUIO/9606d246e3.png
It's a screen of most objects in this difficulty (some aren't displayes in the beginning but if you select all and scroll through the whole song the picture doesn't change much), and you should notice that all of them are more or less centered around the center of the playfield. you only use 2/3 of the space you have, which is something you can improve! it gets a bit boring to play if the playfield is larger than the space you use, so try to place more objects on the sides and in the corners! (: well then... didn't even notice that. i know that i miss a lot of notes that are in the top right corner, so i think that's why that one is empty on pretty much all difficulties :P with future mods i'll definitely expand though. if this were mentioned first i might have changed stuff with that in mind but oh well :/

Hard
the same I said above about the placing applies here as well! consider changing some parts so you use more of the playfield!
  1. 00:19:630 - I miss an object here, preferably a slider like 00:20:091 (1) - changed
  2. 00:25:630 (5) - you can emphasize the downbeat on the slidertail better if you split this slider up
  3. 01:12:707 (1,2) - I noticed before and I think there are more slider like this afterwards, too. - they might look better if you snap the red anchor to the blue tick. sliders usually look more "balanced" that way, but that's totally up to you, ofc! :3 i kept those ones there intentionally, but there were a few later that i did fix. i also snapped the mentioned ones to 1/8 so they're a bit more proportional :3
  4. 01:19:399 (2,3,4) - I'm not entirely sure of these anti-jumps fit here. they don't match the beat or the vocals.. so meh. not sure, ask some more people about this, please. c: i thought they fit pretty well for a building up part, but if others say it should be changed, i'll definitely change it
Insane
I can't play this. orz only thing that I can say sth about:
  1. AR looks a bit high to me.. :\ hmh, not sure. ask for more opinions here.. the slow stuff is easier with ar8, but the fast stuff is a lot harder to read :/ i need ar 8.5
  2. 00:36:707 (7) - replace this slider with more objects, maybe? so it follows the beats better seems bad to follow the backbeat and not emphasize the guy screaming :P
  3. 00:51:476 (1) - wow. now this is really confusing. maybe too confusing, buuut keep it for now. <: #buildup
  4. 00:59:322 (9,10) - copy-paste one shape, please! don't use two different ones! :3 got it
can't say much more. hope I was of some help. '_'
If you have any questions regarding the mod catch me ingame or send a pm! if you read this before i contact you, check the third screenshot on the normal diff :3
*squee*

thanks for the mod :3
Don
Hey! From M4M. Sorry late!

General
The offset seems a little off... [insert timing advice later]

Normal
00:04:399 (1) - Perhaps make the spinner start one measure earlier
00:40:399 (5,2) - Maybe change this overlap? It doesn't feel that nice...
01:02:553 (6) - Change it to this, I feel like this is too hard http://puu.sh/9s0p6/e5fcdd3c2f.jpg
01:06:707 (11,1) - Make both of these sliders into one slider.
01:20:091 (3,4,5) - Up the hitsounds a bit please
01:34:860 (5) - Make this into one note to make it easier

Hard
Sliders with multiple repeats feel weird in a hard+. Perhaps make a 1 repeat and a stack of 2?
00:13:630 (4,5) - Blanket
01:09:014 (1,2,3) - I feel like you are omitting too many song pieces here
01:15:476 (3,4) - ^
01:23:207 (4) - Stack of 2
01:25:053 (3) - ^
01:33:937 (1) - Remove NC

Insane
Try AR8.5? Feel like the AR is a bit too high but AR8 is too slow. Long live peppy's updates! Also, fix your spacing. 00:23:784 (3,4,5) - Feels VERY weird to play, and it's easy to avoid. Maybe map something a little harder, I feel like this one is too easy for the song in this mapset as a hardest difficulty.
00:51:476 (1) - Don't stack this on (5), the changing sliderspeed doesn't really have a cue and feels confusing
01:07:168 (1,2) - Perhaps stack three notes under what is now (3)?
01:10:861 (1,2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/9s3eq/3fb21f3524.jpg
01:42:706 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The difficulty of this feels unfitting with the rest of the map, make it easier
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

Don wrote:

Hey! From M4M. Sorry late! np :3

General
The offset seems a little off... [insert timing advice later] :|

Normal
00:04:399 (1) - Perhaps make the spinner start one measure earlier would be inconsistent wtih the other difficulties. makes more sense to start it on a large white tick anyway :P
00:40:399 (5,2) - Maybe change this overlap? It doesn't feel that nice... changed
01:02:553 (6) - Change it to this, I feel like this is too hard http://puu.sh/9s0p6/e5fcdd3c2f.jpg and create a passive slider? rather not :P
01:06:707 (11,1) - Make both of these sliders into one slider. doesn't make much sense to go through a barline with a slider, especially when there's a phrase change
01:20:091 (3,4,5) - Up the hitsounds a bit please changed
01:34:860 (5) - Make this into one note to make it easier wouldn't make sense to have a circle when comparing to the rest of the combo

Hard
Sliders with multiple repeats feel weird in a hard+. Perhaps make a 1 repeat and a stack of 2? # of reverses changes depending on the section it's in. stacks would make things harder
00:13:630 (4,5) - Blanket changed
01:09:014 (1,2,3) - I feel like you are omitting too many song pieces here changed
01:15:476 (3,4) - ^ changed
01:23:207 (4) - Stack of 2 that would make things a lot more difficult, and considering you already said it was too hard... yeah
01:25:053 (3) - ^ ^
01:33:937 (1) - Remove NC NC is to indicate change in reverse #

Insane
Try AR8.5? Feel like the AR is a bit too high but AR8 is too slow. Long live peppy's updates! my wish has come true. changed
Also, fix your spacing. 00:23:784 (3,4,5) - Feels VERY weird to play, and it's easy to avoid. changed Maybe map something a little harder, I feel like this one is too easy for the song in this mapset as a hardest difficulty. yet you say it gets too hard later on :P i think it's just the difference in the song between slow/fast sections. mapping to the music makes that happen
00:51:476 (1) - Don't stack this on (5), the changing sliderspeed doesn't really have a cue and feels confusing NC is the cue
01:07:168 (1,2) - Perhaps stack three notes under what is now (3)? doesn't really work
01:10:861 (1,2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/9s3eq/3fb21f3524.jpg ^
01:42:706 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The difficulty of this feels unfitting with the rest of the map, make it easier because it's the most intense part of the song probably :P
neonat
Normal

The positions and shapes just seems weird at times, like as if there will never be a match in shapes ever in the map. I don't have much to comment about rhythm

Hard

00:55:976 - feels empty here, continue the beat here instead of a gap?
01:18:130 - ^
01:23:207 (4,5) - the beat that starts at 01:23:322 feels hollow if there's a gap between that and 01:23:553 - having a slider there would be nicer
01:25:053 (3,4) - ^
01:26:899 (4,5) - ^
etc. ^
01:33:937 (1) - replace this with the similar rhythm of 01:33:014 (1,2) - the guitar repeats at 01:34:399 - 01:34:630

Insane

00:40:399 (5) - ctrl-j direction has better flow
how about a triplet to lead to the slider, at 01:06:476 and 01:06:591
01:21:014 (3) - the whistle on the end of the slider sounds weird, what sounds better is removing the whistle on the end of slider, have whistle on only the body of the slider, so no whistle on start and end of slider, but body
01:37:168 (1) - end slider at 01:37:514 and have another note at 01:37:629

Good luck
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

neonat wrote:

Normal

The positions and shapes just seems weird at times, like as if there will never be a match in shapes ever in the map. I don't have much to comment about rhythm copy pasting stuff everywhere would be more boring imo :P

Hard

00:55:976 - feels empty here, continue the beat here instead of a gap? changed
01:18:130 - ^ changed
01:23:207 (4,5) - the beat that starts at 01:23:322 feels hollow if there's a gap between that and 01:23:553 - having a slider there would be nicer
changed
01:25:053 (3,4) - ^ changed
01:26:899 (4,5) - ^ changed
etc. ^ changed
01:33:937 (1) - replace this with the similar rhythm of 01:33:014 (1,2) - the guitar repeats at 01:34:399 - 01:34:630 changed

Insane

00:40:399 (5) - ctrl-j direction has better flow changed (not the way you intended probably but meh)
how about a triplet to lead to the slider, at 01:06:476 and 01:06:591 rather keep that how it is
01:21:014 (3) - the whistle on the end of the slider sounds weird, what sounds better is removing the whistle on the end of slider, have whistle on only the body of the slider, so no whistle on start and end of slider, but body the whistle is there to be weird :P that's why it's the only place in the whole map that it's used. whistle on the body is painful to listen to also so i'll keep it how it is
01:37:168 (1) - end slider at 01:37:514 and have another note at 01:37:629 changed

Good luck thanks for the mod :3
xxdeathx
m4m from my queue.

[General]
  1. Have the timing offset start at the same point as your first object, 00:02:553
[Normal]
  1. This looks more like an easy...the spacing is too close and sliders are too slow. It gets hard to read when everything is so close to each other so you should increase the spacing and slider speed.
  2. 00:41:783 (2,3) - drag the end point of (3) out to blanket better
[Hard]
  1. 00:29:322 (4,1) - blanket these
  2. 00:36:707 (7) - no need for so many slider points; they make it look ugly
  3. 00:54:245 (1) - 00:58:860 (3) - ^
  4. 01:05:322 (1,2,3) - the drum is still going on the ticks that are empty. make both the sliders repeat once more and move them closer.
  5. 01:40:860 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  6. 01:48:245 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
  7. 01:19:399 (2) - new combo this because it's so far away
  8. 01:20:091 (1,3) - if you want to blanket this properly, drag the middle point out and the red point closer
  9. 01:48:245 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - the first set is completely stacked and the second is spaced apart, make em consistent
[Insane]
  1. 00:45:938 (4) - get rid of the red slider point, this slider doesn't need it for anything
  2. 00:47:783 (7) - same here. you don't need fancy sliders here. they're not long enough and your other sliders aren't twisted like these two.
  3. 00:52:399 (1,2,3) - this spacing is for 1/2 circles in the first half. the speed of the song just barely changed here, so spacing 1/4 circles like that might still make them look like 1/2 circles. put them closer for the first few seconds and then space them out in a later part once the player is used to them.
  4. 00:55:860 (8,1) - this is too far for a circle to be right after a 1/4 slider
  5. 00:58:168 (2,3,4,5,6) - a 1/8 stream at 130 bpm is a 260 bpm stream, which is too fast and not conventional. people don't do streams of hit circles at 1/8 beat apart if the song is much more than 100 bpm. replace with a 1/8 repeating slider.
  6. 00:58:861 (8) - this slider can look nicer. i don't think you need more than 3 slider points, just a simple curve is enough.
  7. 00:59:553 (10,1) - circle is also way too far for a 1/4 beat
  8. 01:10:861 (1,2) - ^
  9. 01:14:553 (1,2) - ^
  10. 01:18:015 (8,1) - ^
  11. 01:19:399 (2) - new combo to help with the hp drain
  12. 01:21:014 (3,1) - give at least 1/2 beat before a stream
  13. 01:24:592 (4,6) - you can blanket this or at least make sure they don't overlap
  14. 01:44:321 (4,1) - 01:44:782 (3,4) - 01:45:244 (6,1) - 01:45:706 (3,4) - ^
  15. you're a rank <10k player so you made a lot of parts hard but overall this difficulty is gonna be played by 20k-40k players and they don't see stuff like hit circles so far from 1/4 sliders
good luck!
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

xxdeathx wrote:

m4m from my queue.

[General]
  1. Have the timing offset start at the same point as your first object, 00:02:553 doesn't really matter but k
[Normal]
  1. This looks more like an easy...the spacing is too close and sliders are too slow. It gets hard to read when everything is so close to each other so you should increase the spacing and slider speed. increased (was a pain)
  2. 00:41:783 (2,3) - drag the end point of (3) out to blanket better blanketted
[Hard]
  1. 00:29:322 (4,1) - blanket these did
  2. 00:36:707 (7) - no need for so many slider points; they make it look ugly changed
  3. 00:54:245 (1) - 00:58:860 (3) - ^ that one's to emphasize something i couldn't map on a 1/4 tick.
  4. 01:05:322 (1,2,3) - the drum is still going on the ticks that are empty. make both the sliders repeat once more and move them closer. changed
  5. 01:40:860 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
  6. 01:48:245 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ keeping this one to avoid having streams
  7. 01:19:399 (2) - new combo this because it's so far away nothign really wrong with that :P keeping it
  8. 01:20:091 (1,3) - if you want to blanket this properly, drag the middle point out and the red point closer changed
  9. 01:48:245 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - the first set is completely stacked and the second is spaced apart, make em consistent ctrl+h'd this section earlier and forgot about the custom stack -.- changed
[Insane]
  1. 00:45:938 (4) - get rid of the red slider point, this slider doesn't need it for anything rip sliders
  2. 00:47:783 (7) - same here. you don't need fancy sliders here. they're not long enough and your other sliders aren't twisted like these two.
  3. 00:52:399 (1,2,3) - this spacing is for 1/2 circles in the first half. the speed of the song just barely changed here, so spacing 1/4 circles like that might still make them look like 1/2 circles. put them closer for the first few seconds and then space them out in a later part once the player is used to them. moved a bit
  4. 00:55:860 (8,1) - this is too far for a circle to be right after a 1/4 slider i think that's fine
  5. 00:58:168 (2,3,4,5,6) - a 1/8 stream at 130 bpm is a 260 bpm stream, which is too fast and not conventional. people don't do streams of hit circles at 1/8 beat apart if the song is much more than 100 bpm. replace with a 1/8 repeating slider changed it for the sake of DTers, but there's a few maps that have 260+ streams in them with lower bpms :P likehttps://osu.ppy.sh/b/177916
  6. 00:58:861 (8) - this slider can look nicer. i don't think you need more than 3 slider points, just a simple curve is enough. keeping that one. the extra slider points are just to maintain a curve after the red anchor
  7. 00:59:553 (10,1) - circle is also way too far for a 1/4 beat circles after 1/4 sliders are pretty easy to hit. any objects i hit when testplaying aren't these :P
  8. 01:10:861 (1,2) - ^
  9. 01:14:553 (1,2) - ^
  10. 01:18:015 (8,1) - ^
  11. 01:19:399 (2) - new combo to help with the hp drain hp goes down like 5% not too necessary
  12. 01:21:014 (3,1) - give at least 1/2 beat before a stream not that necessary
  13. 01:24:592 (4,6) - you can blanket this or at least make sure they don't overlap changed
  14. 01:44:321 (4,1) - 01:44:782 (3,4) - 01:45:244 (6,1) - 01:45:706 (3,4) - ^ uh.. these don't overlap o.o
  15. you're a rank <10k player so you made a lot of parts hard but overall this difficulty is gonna be played by 20k-40k players and they don't see stuff like hit circles so far from 1/4 sliders i made it a month ago when i was 15k actually :P and considering it's the hardest difficulty in the map, it should be... well... hard :3
good luck! ty :3
Okoratu


General

  1. hoi here's the thing i told you about irc
  2. Idk if albums are allowed to go in sources now but this does it
  3. I like this song.
  4. could use some more tags, idk
  5. CRTL+SHIFT+A pls.

Insane

  1. Expected one diff to be kind of "double" bpm style was disappointed in that regard
  2. first things first 00:50:553 (5,1,1) - with your current stack leniency these stack ingame and i don't really think they have to do there's plenty of time to read these. if you nerf it from currently 7 to 6 or 5 (doesn't really matter i think) this is avoided.
  3. 00:19:168 (1) - i don't really understand this slider's red anchor as the sound is not really different to the others
  4. 00:19:860 - i kind of expected you to have an object here because of the way you mapped the same sounds in 00:33:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - with an circle and 1/2 sliders. I also think an additional circle would be nice for the build up here.
  5. 00:24:476 (4,5,6) - this should be at least trying to have the same distance to the previous object imo (my only problem with this is that 00:23:784 (3) - has to be held down for quite some time and thus you could be mistakenly thinking that 00:24:476 (4) - was some kind of other rhythm)
  6. 00:39:245 - all you could think about adding here would be a circle anyway because the following downbeat kind of demands a circle - just adding this here
  7. 01:08:553 (6) - , 01:12:245 (7) - i don't really like how you simplify that rhythm with these 2 sliders and keep it closer to what really is there in 01:10:284 (5,6,7) - , 01:13:976 (7,8,9) - , 01:15:822 (5,6,7) - , 01:17:668 (6,7,8) - , i'd welcome it if you used something similar to that in these 2 cases because the sound landing on the red ticks there is so dominant compared to the rest
  8. 01:21:014 (3) - i like this slider this is a damn fine slider
  9. 01:27:015 (7) - if you look at all the other sliders in your map you will notice how this one appears to be out of place, should maybe change its shape a bit
  10. 01:34:745 - you skip the loudest sound in that whole stream combo...???
  11. 01:36:245 (5,6) - you pointed that out to me and do it yourself gg

Hard

  1. not that good at hards
  2. 00:17:322 (4) - it would probably be pretty easy to hitsound that slidertick if you want to do that
  3. 00:19:860 - i already told you that i don't really like that, didn't i
  4. 00:27:476 (2,3) - is this a blanket? it could very well be one
  5. 00:39:476 (3,4,5,6,1) - would set the Beat Snap Divisor to 1/1 and go to Compose -> create Polygon circles in order to make this absolutely even (i suspect that you placed them manually, i'm not 100% sure though)
  6. 00:42:245 (2,3) - the same slider rotated by a bit could be cooler here
  7. 00:52:630 (2,3) - how2blanket
  8. 01:03:360 - what
  9. 01:06:707 (4,1) - i do think that this blanket could be a bit better also unnecessary green lines all over this
  10. 01:20:091 (1,2) - whyy are these not the same kind of slider?
  11. 01:33:476 (2,2) - + 01:33:014 (1,1) - would be cool if you could avoid these overlaps
  12. 01:42:706 (1,2,3,4) - are all of these different sliders lol
  13. 01:48:245 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - i see no reason for these not to use the same idea

Normal

  1. ehrm any reason for other combo colours in the normal?
  2. 00:08:091 (1,2) - how2blanket
  3. 00:22:860 (1,2) - asdf
  4. 00:46:860 (5) - does this anchor leave the grid, also this could possibly touch the hp bar in the standard skin
  5. 01:26:091 (2) - maybe try to have the red anchor in the slidertick to represent 01:26:553 - a bit better through a turn in the slider like you did in 00:30:245 (1) -
  6. 01:31:168 (2) - this red anchor makes no sense it should be on the slidertick in 01:32:091 - to have it turn correctly

hope this makes sense, remove unnecessary green lines from the lower diffs while you're at this
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

Okoratu wrote:



General

  1. hoi here's the thing i told you about irc hoi
  2. Idk if albums are allowed to go in sources now but this does it i'll ask a batperson about it then
  3. I like this song. music is cool
  4. could use some more tags, idk idk any either ;-;
  5. CRTL+SHIFT+A pls. oops -.-

Insane

  1. Expected one diff to be kind of "double" bpm style was disappointed in that regard wouldn't fit with the diff spread very well unfortunately :/ i'm bad at mapping those anyway
  2. first things first 00:50:553 (5,1,1) - with your current stack leniency these stack ingame and i don't really think they have to do there's plenty of time to read these. if you nerf it from currently 7 to 6 or 5 (doesn't really matter i think) this is avoided. doned
  3. 00:19:168 (1) - i don't really understand this slider's red anchor as the sound is not really different to the others i think i had it there because it's in the same combo as the drum sampleset stuff. changed tho
  4. 00:19:860 - i kind of expected you to have an object here because of the way you mapped the same sounds in 00:33:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - with an circle and 1/2 sliders. I also think an additional circle would be nice for the build up here. changed
  5. 00:24:476 (4,5,6) - this should be at least trying to have the same distance to the previous object imo (my only problem with this is that 00:23:784 (3) - has to be held down for quite some time and thus you could be mistakenly thinking that 00:24:476 (4) - was some kind of other rhythm) made them closer (along with the same sort of thing a few seconds later)
  6. 00:39:245 - all you could think about adding here would be a circle anyway because the following downbeat kind of demands a circle - just adding this here. if i tried to follow vocals here, i'd have to follow them the whole bar, and that doesn't work very well when he talks on the offbeats so much :/ i had vocals more mapped before, but it sounds really awkward
  7. 01:08:553 (6) - , 01:12:245 (7) - i don't really like how you simplify that rhythm with these 2 sliders and keep it closer to what really is there in 01:10:284 (5,6,7) - , 01:13:976 (7,8,9) - , 01:15:822 (5,6,7) - , 01:17:668 (6,7,8) - , i'd welcome it if you used something similar to that in these 2 cases because the sound landing on the red ticks there is so dominant compared to the rest changed
  8. 01:21:014 (3) - i like this slider this is a damn fine slider daaaaaaaamn fiiiiiine
  9. 01:27:015 (7) - if you look at all the other sliders in your map you will notice how this one appears to be out of place, should maybe change its shape a bit i hate that slider
  10. 01:34:745 - you skip the loudest sound in that whole stream combo...??? but.. jump.. and.. ;-; (changed to something super fancy now tho so i like)
  11. 01:36:245 (5,6) - you pointed that out to me and do it yourself gg yeahdfasdf

Hard

  1. not that good at hards
  2. 00:17:322 (4) - it would probably be pretty easy to hitsound that slidertick if you want to do that tbh i like the default one :P
  3. 00:19:860 - i already told you that i don't really like that, didn't i ur a bully ;-;
  4. 00:27:476 (2,3) - is this a blanket? it could very well be one it is now
  5. 00:39:476 (3,4,5,6,1) - would set the Beat Snap Divisor to 1/1 and go to Compose -> create Polygon circles in order to make this absolutely even (i suspect that you placed them manually, i'm not 100% sure though) doned
  6. 00:42:245 (2,3) - the same slider rotated by a bit could be cooler here i did something
  7. 00:52:630 (2,3) - how2blanket i don't know how i did that but i did
  8. 01:03:360 - what ticks are stupid
  9. 01:06:707 (4,1) - i do think that this blanket could be a bit better also unnecessary green lines all over this yes and one of those is a yellow line calm down
  10. 01:20:091 (1,2) - whyy are these not the same kind of slider? my control, c, and v buttons are broken
  11. 01:33:476 (2,2) - + 01:33:014 (1,1) - would be cool if you could avoid these overlaps that would be cool
  12. 01:42:706 (1,2,3,4) - are all of these different sliders lol what is a slider
  13. 01:48:245 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - i see no reason for these not to use the same idea 123 coming from the right, so custom stack, and 567 coming from the left, so regular stack :/

Normal

  1. ehrm any reason for other combo colours in the normal? let me tell you a story about how i forgot to enable custom combo colors -.-
  2. 00:08:091 (1,2) - how2blanket was before i changed SV
  3. 00:22:860 (1,2) - asdf fvvvvvvv
  4. 00:46:860 (5) - does this anchor leave the grid, also this could possibly touch the hp bar in the standard skin by 1 pixel on both -.-
  5. 01:26:091 (2) - maybe try to have the red anchor in the slidertick to represent 01:26:553 - a bit better through a turn in the slider like you did in 00:30:245 (1) - the red anchor is on the blue tick stuff that i can't map on a normal difficulty
  6. 01:31:168 (2) - this red anchor makes no sense it should be on the slidertick in 01:32:091 - to have it turn correctly you're a red anchor you still are

hope this makes sense, remove unnecessary green lines from the lower diffs while you're at this didded
Timorisu
Request from my queue

[Normal]

00:09:937 (3) - Blanket slightly off

00:17:322 (3) - Kind of a weird wave, try http://puu.sh/9GuA8/bddc293302.jpg

00:30:245 (1) - Blanket around two is slightly off, move the end down a bit

00:43:168 (3) - Blanket's off too

01:29:322 (1,2) - Probably personal but I don't think these fit to be honest

Nice diff

[Hard]

00:09:476 (4) - A normal curved slider will do here

00:27:476 (2) - ^

00:39:476 (3,4,5,6,1) - This circle is kinda off, CTRL+Shift+D is your friend

00:47:783 (5) - A normal curved slider will do here too

00:50:553 (1) - A straight slider would fit better :L

01:02:553 (3,4) - ^

01:21:014 (3) - Blanket around 1 is slightly off

01:36:245 (3) - x:312 y:220

01:45:245 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - I'd make these a circle with CTRL+Shift+D too (and then rotate the thing by 45° so it ends up like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1745867)

[Insane]

00:11:322 (5) - Place this somewhere so that the previous and next object are at the same distance snap, x:192 y:180 for example

00:17:322 (4) - Curve this a bit more (maybe)

00:25:630 (7) - Parallel slider to 6 going down would be neater http://puu.sh/9Gvrz/25df3f56c1.jpg

00:54:707 (4) - The red point is really unnecessary :L

01:07:168 (1) - This part is... eh. In my honest opinion you shouldn't depend so much in sliderjumps in streams but rather stick to normal distance snap and cirlce streams. I currently do not see something in this build up suggesting any jumps while streaming.

01:21:014 (3) - A 1/1 repeat slider would do tbh

01:23:322 (8) - Blanket is slightly off

01:31:976 (5) - ^

01:33:015 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Read up on RJ's delicious slider thread, make a loop slider, and convert it to a stream (via Compose menu), will look much neater!

01:39:937 (4) - Blanket's off

Ye that's about it

Oh and album belongs in tags
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

Timorisu wrote:

Request from my queue

[Normal]

00:09:937 (3) - Blanket slightly off so slightly :/

00:17:322 (3) - Kind of a weird wave, try http://puu.sh/9GuA8/bddc293302.jpg did; rotated

00:30:245 (1) - Blanket around two is slightly off, move the end down a bit fixed ;-;

00:43:168 (3) - Blanket's off too blankets are overrated

01:29:322 (1,2) - Probably personal but I don't think these fit to be honest if someone else suggests something, i'll change it. i'm butchering the melody on 1/4 ticks already so mapping there hurts

Nice diff aww

[Hard]

00:09:476 (4) - A normal curved slider will do here don't ask how that got there

00:27:476 (2) - ^ changed...somewhat. no more red anchor

00:39:476 (3,4,5,6,1) - This circle is kinda off, CTRL+Shift+D is your friend uh... that's how it was made... o.o

00:47:783 (5) - A normal curved slider will do here too changed in same way as the other one

00:50:553 (1) - A straight slider would fit better :L prefer to keep this how it is. slightly weird slider for SV/spacing change

01:02:553 (3,4) - ^ ^

01:21:014 (3) - Blanket around 1 is slightly off is it? is it really? k yes it is -.-

01:36:245 (3) - x:312 y:220 breaks distance snap, but i did changed to do something similar to get the flow that had

01:45:245 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - I'd make these a circle with CTRL+Shift+D too (and then rotate the thing by 45° so it ends up like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1745867&#41; fancy af

[Insane]

00:11:322 (5) - Place this somewhere so that the previous and next object are at the same distance snap, x:192 y:180 for example

00:17:322 (4) - Curve this a bit more (maybe) it's copy/paste of 00:15:476 (1) - :/

00:25:630 (7) - Parallel slider to 6 going down would be neater http://puu.sh/9Gvrz/25df3f56c1.jpg neato

00:54:707 (4) - The red point is really unnecessary :L best way i could find to indicate next object being at such an angle :/

01:07:168 (1) - This part is... eh. In my honest opinion you shouldn't depend so much in sliderjumps in streams but rather stick to normal distance snap and cirlce streams. I currently do not see something in this build up suggesting any jumps while streaming. there's only one sort of stream in this section and it's four objects, so i really don't know what this is talking about o.o

01:21:014 (3) - A 1/1 repeat slider would do tbh but would it be rising?

01:23:322 (8) - Blanket is slightly off yes. yes it is.

01:31:976 (5) - ^ asdfasdf

01:33:015 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Read up on RJ's delicious slider thread, make a loop slider, and convert it to a stream (via Compose menu), will look much neater! delicious

01:39:937 (4) - Blanket's off fgdgsfgfgsdfg

Ye that's about it

Oh and album belongs in tags kay ty :3
Nozhomi
Well, from your phantom request on my modding queue :D. I'm not sure if I can do a so good mod like your but pdjfspdfjp let's go !
Please reply to this mod saying what you didn't fix (and what you did) and why to improve my futur mods.
If you've any question, ask me in-game.

- Insane :
  1. 00:25:168 (6,7)- Blanket them looks bad like this.
  2. 01:13:976 (7,8,9)- This overlap looks bad and not really fun to play. Would more see something like this : http://puu.sh/9IiRP/44495d83d4.jpg.
  3. 01:39:706 (3,4)- Improve this blanket.
  4. 01:25:053 (5,6,7)- Flow looks weird here. Maybe try this http://puu.sh/9Ijps/5f59da6e8c.jpg ?
- hard :
  1. 00:09:476 (4,5)- Blanket ?
  2. 00:44:091 (4,5)- Would CTRL+G to improve flow.
  3. 01:48:245 (1,2,3)- Here you use a DS like 01:18:707 (2,3,4)- but with 1/4. That's quite strange you don't agree ? Myabe stack them like (5,6,7) just after.
- Normal :
  1. 00:28:399 (4,5,1)- Blanket them.
  2. 01:27:937 (4,1)- I know you what you do here, but like this you break a little flow between them. It's maybe not so important but prefer point it.

A mapset far beyond my poor modding ability. Can't find many mistake or bad thing (i'm sorry ;w;).
Well just hope it'll help you, and good luck.
Topic Starter
pishifat

Nozhomi wrote:

Well, from your phantom request on my modding queue :D. I'm not sure if I can do a so good mod like your but pdjfspdfjp let's go !
Please reply to this mod saying what you didn't fix (and what you did) and why to improve my futur mods. of course :3
If you've any question, ask me in-game.

- Insane :
  1. 00:25:168 (6,7)- Blanket them looks bad like this. got rid of the curve entirely
  2. 01:13:976 (7,8,9)- This overlap looks bad and not really fun to play. Would more see something like this : http://puu.sh/9IiRP/44495d83d4.jpg. got rid of the overlap. didn't do what's in the puush tho
  3. 01:39:706 (3,4)- Improve this blanket. did
  4. 01:25:053 (5,6,7)- Flow looks weird here. Maybe try this http://puu.sh/9Ijps/5f59da6e8c.jpg ? changed
- hard :
  1. 00:09:476 (4,5)- Blanket ? why am i so bad at this
  2. 00:44:091 (4,5)- Would CTRL+G to improve flow. i've got 4 higher up cuz there's some weird change in pitch in the music there, so keeping it
  3. 01:48:245 (1,2,3)- Here you use a DS like 01:18:707 (2,3,4)- but with 1/4. That's quite strange you don't agree ? Myabe stack them like (5,6,7) just after. changed the thing at 01:18:707 (2,3,4)- instead (which was supposed to be on 01:19:399 (2,3,4) - o.o)
- Normal :
  1. 00:28:399 (4,5,1)- Blanket them. asdf
  2. 01:27:937 (4,1)- I know you what you do here, but like this you break a little flow between them. It's maybe not so important but prefer point it. fixed with rotationythings

A mapset far beyond my poor modding ability. Can't find many mistake or bad thing (i'm sorry ;w;). that's teh goal so i'm not too sad :3
Well just hope it'll help you, and good luck. ty :3
Kibbleru
Modding this for kinshara

[General]
  1. Tickrate 4 fits better for this song i think. but at least i know it definitely should not be tickrate 1
  2. Combo color inconsistency
[Insane]
  1. 00:37:630 - whistle?
  2. 00:52:515 (2) - overmapped? you don't have a note here 00:52:515 (2) -
  3. 01:07:630 - you REALLY shouldn't miss these sounds... they're pretty strong and they give the base beat. if you're missing them, you don't give players the sense of the base beat.
    01:08:091 -
    01:09:476 -
  4. actually.. the main rhythm is playing on the red and white ticks... why are you mapping in the blue ticks?? why is there so many objects mapped on the off beats?!?!
  5. 00:58:860 - just a bit of a suggestion, how bout slow the sv here :P i think it fits well
  6. 01:06:707 (6,3) - overlap looks a bit messy.
  7. 01:33:475 (5,5) - consider NC here too to express the base sound
[Hard]
  1. 01:33:476 (2,2) - space these out a bit
  2. 00:57:245 (3,2) - ^
  3. 00:37:168 - there needs to be something here
  4. 01:21:707 - i don't really think the normal whistle fits well. sounds a bit... out of place?
[Normal]
  1. btw for all your diffs 00:20:091 - i don't really get why you're suddenly using drum sampleset when there arent actually any drums playing in the music...
  2. 00:26:091 - add something. anything
  3. 00:37:168 - ^
  4. 00:51:476 (1) - maybe nc just for the sake of readability (newbier people often find it hard to read when you stack stuff like this)
  5. 01:21:707 - same as in hard but ur choice
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

Kibbleru wrote:

Modding this for kinshara wasn't even expecting a mod anymore, that's cool :D

[General]
  1. Tickrate 4 fits better for this song i think. but at least i know it definitely should not be tickrate 1 changed to 2. if i did 4... this happens in the beginning
  2. Combo color inconsistencyfixed
[Insane]
  1. 00:37:630 - whistle? oops
  2. 00:52:515 (2) - overmapped? you don't have a note here 00:52:515 (2) - removed
  3. 01:07:630 - you REALLY shouldn't miss these sounds... they're pretty strong and they give the base beat. if you're missing them, you don't give players the sense of the base beat.
    01:08:091 -
    01:09:476 -
  4. actually.. the main rhythm is playing on the red and white ticks... why are you mapping in the blue ticks?? why is there so many objects mapped on the off beats?!?! mapping the guitar, which is more rhythmically variable, seems like a better idea than mapping the bass, which is just pounding on every white tick. i'd rather not just spam 1/4 to fit in both the guitar and bass, so i chose guitar. test players haven't had too much trouble, but i'd be willing to change later if others had a problem with it
  5. 00:58:860 - just a bit of a suggestion, how bout slow the sv here :P i think it fits well sure, why not
  6. 01:06:707 (6,3) - overlap looks a bit messy. changed
  7. 01:33:475 (5,5) - consider NC here too to express the base sound sure
[Hard]
  1. 01:33:476 (2,2) - space these out a bit done
  2. 00:57:245 (3,2) - ^ ^
  3. 00:37:168 - there needs to be something here wasn't anything here on insane either. i think it's fine since the slider there ends at the end of the guitar phrase
  4. 01:21:707 - i don't really think the normal whistle fits well. sounds a bit... out of place? i'd take any different sound suggestions there. i just wanted something that was loud and different from the rest of the percussion hitsounds. (so out of place was the intention i guess :P)
[Normal]
  1. btw for all your diffs 00:20:091 - i don't really get why you're suddenly using drum sampleset when there arent actually any drums playing in the music... change in sampleset to show that this part is different than the rest of it. if there's any htisounds that would fit better, i'd change
  2. 00:26:091 - add something. anything i liked the space, but multiple people pointed it out, so changed :/
  3. 00:37:168 - ^ ^
  4. 00:51:476 (1) - maybe nc just for the sake of readability (newbier people often find it hard to read when you stack stuff like this) did
  5. 01:21:707 - same as in hard but ur choice asdf
Maruyu
lolgs (lol + logs, get it...?)
23:34 pishifat: hey, i'm later than expected, but here :3
23:34 Yuzu-: Uh
23:34 Yuzu-: ye sure we can do it now
23:34 pishifat: wasn't home for a while after i messaged you the first time
23:34 pishifat: cool
23:34 pishifat: i don't even have a mouse now
23:34 pishifat: so this will be challenging
23:34 Yuzu-: im kinda tired but I guess now's fine
23:35 Yuzu-: Whenever we can start
23:35 pishifat: don't even have the map on this computer lol..
23:36 pishifat: k
23:36 pishifat: ready
23:36 Yuzu-: Well first
23:37 Yuzu-: first timing point should be around 00:04:399 (just because there's a spinner here, and it's fine, else it'd be at 00:08:091)
23:38 pishifat: uhm
23:38 pishifat: is there a reason to have it there
23:38 pishifat: seems like it would make sense to have it before the first object...
23:38 Yuzu-: just to be clear
23:38 Yuzu-: we're on normal
23:38 Yuzu-: first
23:38 pishifat: i've got a spinner on all difficulties there anyway :P
23:38 Yuzu-: k
23:39 pishifat: but yeah, i can do that, don't relaly see what the point is tho
23:39 Yuzu-: A timing point is supposed to map a beat
23:39 Yuzu-: So the first beat isn't at 00:04:399 (1) , but it's fine to stay there since you have your first object there
23:40 pishifat: alright
23:40 pishifat: i'll move it there last
23:40 pishifat: since i've got that on all difficulties to do
23:40 Yuzu-: also, note that you do have a beat on your timing point
23:40 Yuzu-: but it's low, so just put it there
23:40 Yuzu-: It's not needed but it helps clean up
23:41 pishifat: k
23:41 Yuzu-: 00:08:091 (1,2,3) -
23:41 Yuzu-: pretty sure you've heard something about that 3 up there
23:41 Yuzu-: right?
23:42 pishifat: what you mean
23:42 Yuzu-: It's hidden in the timeline
23:42 Yuzu-: and in game it's way up there
23:42 pishifat: it's not blocked by the health bar or anything tho :/
23:42 Yuzu-: Yeah
23:42 pishifat: i'd be fine moving it down
23:43 Yuzu-: it's fine as it is, but you could make it better
23:43 Yuzu-: Just try rotating counter clockwise and repositioning
23:43 Yuzu-: and create linear flow between 00:09:937 (3,4) -
23:43 Yuzu-: Should look fine
23:43 pishifat: was thinking of that yeah
23:44 Yuzu-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1784391
23:44 pishifat: i'd rather have 4 line up with the curve of 3
23:44 pishifat: but yeah it'll be moved around tehre
23:45 Yuzu-: 00:20:091 - 00:22:860 If the purpose of the drums here is to reinforce the guitar
23:45 Yuzu-: or whatever it's called
23:46 Yuzu-: You could just increase volume and add some whistles
23:46 Yuzu-: drums don't really make sense here
23:46 pishifat: someone else commented on that too
23:46 pishifat: i'm probably gonna just make lower pitch versions of the soft sampleset and use them there
23:47 Yuzu-: I'd say just increase volume and whistles, that'd be fine
23:47 pishifat: if lower pitch stuff doesn't sound good i'll do that
23:50 Yuzu-: 00:33:014 (3) - This reverse slider isn't bad, but I'd prefer to place a circle here to really impose the NC
23:51 pishifat: impose the NC
23:51 pishifat: what you mean
23:51 Yuzu-: Well, it's the big white tick
23:51 Yuzu-: the song kind of changes there
23:52 Yuzu-: so it's a strong beat
23:52 Yuzu-: you should map it with a circle
23:52 pishifat: well i'd agree if there were a strong beat in the music there :P
23:52 pishifat: the change in music comes at 00:34:399 (1) - cuz that's where the guitar appears
23:52 Yuzu-: The fact that the song changes a bit makes it an important beat
23:53 Yuzu-: and note that it changes there and actually allows for the guitar to fade in
23:54 pishifat: i'll see how it sounds then
23:54 Yuzu-: 00:34:399 - 00:37:630 - same thing with drums
23:55 pishifat: yeah already marked that
23:55 Yuzu-: Tell me when I can proceed
23:55 pishifat: any time
23:55 Yuzu-: 00:45:014 (1,2,3,4) - these
23:56 Yuzu-: let's say 1 has a certain volume
23:56 Yuzu-: 2 has less volume, and 3 and four have more
23:56 Yuzu-: This is an awful line of thought ;w;
23:57 Yuzu-: anyway, since 2 has less volume, and is less noticeable, I believe that you could instead create a slider replacing 00:45:014 (1,2) - and leave 00:45:937 (3,4) -
23:57 pishifat: um
23:57 pishifat: wat o.o
23:57 pishifat: i'd really rather leave those as is
23:57 pishifat: i see
23:57 pishifat: since this part is where it's building up more
23:58 pishifat: so making it the same style as the previous section would break that
23:58 Yuzu-: cuz it's like the volume decreases from 1 to 2
23:58 Yuzu-: so you could make a slider to describe that change, and then go with the 2 circles to suddenly change that
23:59 pishifat: trying it now
23:59 pishifat: don't like it as much as the way it was before, sorry :P
23:59 Yuzu-: Well sure c:
00:02 Yuzu-: 01:02:553 (6) - I see what you tried here, but if you listen closely there's no beat on red tick, and the beat you want to map is definitely on the previous white tick
00:03 Yuzu-: Also, I don't find the slider to very appealing, you might want to consider another shape IF you're keeping it
00:03 pishifat: i'd really rather not leave the space between those empty though
00:03 pishifat: i'll silence the slider end though as to not confuse with the song's rhythm
00:03 Yuzu-: that will do just fine
00:04 Yuzu-: consider a shape change then
00:04 pishifat: making the flat part curved upward seems to do pretty well
00:05 Yuzu-: 01:29:322 (1,2) - Ah, these two
00:05 pishifat: so yeah changed
00:05 Yuzu-: They're... very long.
00:05 pishifat: yes... yes they are
00:06 Yuzu-: If you're not going to change, I'd at least recommend reducing 01:31:168 (2) - 's duration by 1/2
00:07 Yuzu-: the white tick is significantly stronger than red tick
00:08 pishifat: i think with a previous mod i made it too long
00:08 pishifat: and didn't notice
00:08 pishifat: so changed :P
00:08 Yuzu-: finally
00:08 Yuzu-: 01:48:245 (3,4,5,6) -
00:08 Yuzu-: 01:49:629 (6) - ending in a blue tick isn't really a problem, but just to keep people off your back for some reason
00:08 Yuzu-: you could remake 01:48:245 (3,4,5,6) - into a spinner
00:09 pishifat: i don't really think it's a big deal. you won't even be able to tell since there's no notes after to screw with polarity
00:09 pishifat: and spinners wouldn't really fit in that kind of place imo
00:09 Yuzu-: True
00:10 Yuzu-: Well, keep that in mind for next mods
00:10 pishifat: you're the first to mention it :P but if more people do i'll consider
00:11 Yuzu-: On to hard
00:11 pishifat: k
00:13 Yuzu-: 00:09:937 - This tick shouldn't end up on the tail of a slider, it's kind of strong
00:13 Yuzu-: now, you can't just place a circle, so best would be placing a slider
00:14 pishifat: i see what you mean
00:14 pishifat: and can do
00:14 Yuzu-: and to not mess with the shape of your starting notes, you could simply remove the reverse, move the slider 1/1 farther and place a circle on the empty spot
00:14 Yuzu-: Stacking it
00:15 pishifat: i'll probably rotate the starting notes
00:15 pishifat: to avoid the stack
00:15 Yuzu-: if you can make it work then do c:
00:16 Yuzu-: 00:10:860 (6,7,1) - this is a tricky thing
00:16 Yuzu-: because it kind of zig zags a bit
00:16 Yuzu-: but in the end looks bad to me, because isn't symmetrical to 00:09:937 (5) -
00:16 pishifat: uh... i think that's fine
00:17 pishifat: really not that hard lol
00:17 Yuzu-: it isn't
00:17 pishifat: and it emphasizes the pitch drop by having 1 below it instead of flowing perfectly
00:17 pishifat: i'll move over 1 to make it a perfect triangle
00:17 pishifat: if that's what you mean
00:18 Yuzu-: no, it's a net of bad triangles there
00:18 Yuzu-: in my opinion just the circles there mark the pitch drop
00:19 Yuzu-: hmm
00:19 pishifat: a net of bad triangles
00:19 pishifat: dunno what you're referring to :|
00:19 Yuzu-: looking at all of the possible triangles there they're not all perfect
00:21 Yuzu-: without losing too much time with this
00:22 Yuzu-: I'd say that you should forget that blanket from 00:09:937 (5) - and place the two circles in a way that they're equally distant to both slider
00:22 pishifat: not sure what your perfect triangle is, but i'd probably change that first one you mentioend to look like 00:15:476 (1,2,3) -
00:22 pishifat: since that is much closer to a proper triangle
00:22 Yuzu-: and also making both sliders the same, but symmetrical helps
00:23 pishifat: i'd do that if they weren't part of different phrases in the music :/
00:23 pishifat: making them symmetrical would make them appear to be part of the same section when they're not as indicated by the comboing
00:23 Yuzu-: Well, okay
00:24 Yuzu-: you can leave it I guess, just my opinion
00:24 pishifat: i'll change it to be like the other triangle, so not completely leaving it
00:24 Yuzu-: okay c:
00:25 Yuzu-: 00:17:322 (4) - This is also huge, and takes the big white tick in the end
00:25 Yuzu-: problem isn't being huge, it looks good
00:26 Yuzu-: but that being clickable would be good because of the change
00:26 pishifat: based on teh way i've got it i'm putting more emphasis on 00:20:091 (1) -
00:26 pishifat: which is why i started the combo there
00:26 pishifat: so changing wouldn't be very benefitcial
00:27 Yuzu-: still, NC problem remains
00:27 Yuzu-: 00:19:630 (5) - nc should be here for the same reasons as in normal
00:27 Yuzu-: The guitar fades in here, and 00:19:630 (5) - is the start
00:28 pishifat: i think we're listening to different sounds
00:28 pishifat: cuz guitar is pretty clear on 00:20:091 (1) -
00:29 Yuzu-: Yes it does, but the truth is that the song changes in the big white tick
00:29 Yuzu-: the pitch goes down in preparation for the guitar
00:29 Yuzu-: and since you won't place an object to NC there 00:19:630 (5) - should carry it
00:30 Yuzu-: it is in part to keep your NC'ing consistent as well
00:30 pishifat: yeah..yeahokay i'll do it :3
00:31 pishifat: noticed that i had the same thing later
00:31 pishifat: but NC on where 5 is
00:31 Yuzu-: 00:23:783 (2) - This one, the tail is significantly stronger than the tail, which means that replacing this with two circles would be the best
00:31 Yuzu-: tail > head
00:31 Yuzu-: my bad xD
00:32 pishifat: it's higher pitch
00:32 pishifat: not really significantly stronger
00:32 pishifat: i've got the same thing on all 3 difficulties there i think and it's fine how it is :P
00:32 Yuzu-: Well, okay
00:33 pishifat: would ruin the emphasis i have with circles on 00:24:707 (3,4) - too, so that's why not changing
00:33 Yuzu-: 00:43:168 (3) - It's not really bad
00:34 Yuzu-: but personally I like when sliders just lead into other objects perfectly/almost perfectly
00:34 Yuzu-: it's kind of sending the cursor under 00:44:091 (4) -
00:34 pishifat: did that since 4 is a really high pitch noise
00:35 pishifat: i'll change it tho, it doesn't look too good
00:36 Yuzu-: 01:15:476 (3,4,5,6) - This curve feels a bit weird
00:37 pishifat: yes it does
00:37 pishifat: gonna move things
00:37 Yuzu-: moving 01:15:014 (2) - down is perfect to help
00:41 Yuzu-: kiai rhythm could be changed
00:42 Yuzu-: all those blue tick circles could feel better
00:42 Yuzu-: let me get something
00:42 pishifat: something
00:42 pishifat: k
00:49 Yuzu-: I honestly don't know how to go over this one
00:49 Yuzu-: http://puu.sh/9XaCe/647b287960.jpg This is the best I got for me, idk how you want to do it but
00:49 Yuzu-: that 2 slider on a blue tick after 1 feels extremely well to me
00:50 pishifat: having doubles like that
00:50 pishifat: doesn't feel right at all :/
00:50 Yuzu-: your rhythm is fine
00:50 Yuzu-: it's more simple
00:50 Yuzu-: I just had to throw in the suggestion c:
00:50 pishifat: lol
00:50 Yuzu-: hehe
00:51 Yuzu-: rest looks fine
00:51 pishifat: :D
00:52 Yuzu-: Well, it's getting late for me
00:52 Yuzu-: Do you mind if I finish insane on forum?
00:52 pishifat: go for it
00:52 Yuzu-: ok, let me post the chat logs then
00:52 pishifat: you don't have to do insane if you don't want to
00:53 pishifat: irc mods take longer than forum mods it seems lol
00:53 Yuzu-: xD
00:53 Yuzu-: No, I'll do it
00:53 Yuzu-: I don't like leaving things mid way
00:53 Yuzu-: first thing tomorrow

[Insane]

  1. 00:24:476 (4), 00:24:707 (5,6) - the red ticks that you mapped here have no sound attached to them. Just use a 1/1 slider from 00:24:706 to 00:25:168 and delete 00:24:476 (4)
  2. 00:31:168 (4,5) - ^
  3. 01:11:207 (2,3,4,5) - I found this to be confusing to myself, I'd CTRL + G 3 and 4
S-Sugoi! owo

byezies, gl <3
Topic Starter
pishifat

Yuzu- wrote:

lolgs (lol + logs, get it...?)
23:34 pishifat: hey, i'm later than expected, but here :3
23:34 Yuzu-: Uh
23:34 Yuzu-: ye sure we can do it now
23:34 pishifat: wasn't home for a while after i messaged you the first time
23:34 pishifat: cool
23:34 pishifat: i don't even have a mouse now
23:34 pishifat: so this will be challenging
23:34 Yuzu-: im kinda tired but I guess now's fine
23:35 Yuzu-: Whenever we can start
23:35 pishifat: don't even have the map on this computer lol..
23:36 pishifat: k
23:36 pishifat: ready
23:36 Yuzu-: Well first
23:37 Yuzu-: first timing point should be around 00:04:399 (just because there's a spinner here, and it's fine, else it'd be at 00:08:091)
23:38 pishifat: uhm
23:38 pishifat: is there a reason to have it there
23:38 pishifat: seems like it would make sense to have it before the first object...
23:38 Yuzu-: just to be clear
23:38 Yuzu-: we're on normal
23:38 Yuzu-: first
23:38 pishifat: i've got a spinner on all difficulties there anyway :P
23:38 Yuzu-: k
23:39 pishifat: but yeah, i can do that, don't relaly see what the point is tho
23:39 Yuzu-: A timing point is supposed to map a beat
23:39 Yuzu-: So the first beat isn't at 00:04:399 (1) , but it's fine to stay there since you have your first object there
23:40 pishifat: alright
23:40 pishifat: i'll move it there last
23:40 pishifat: since i've got that on all difficulties to do
23:40 Yuzu-: also, note that you do have a beat on your timing point
23:40 Yuzu-: but it's low, so just put it there
23:40 Yuzu-: It's not needed but it helps clean up
23:41 pishifat: k
23:41 Yuzu-: 00:08:091 (1,2,3) -
23:41 Yuzu-: pretty sure you've heard something about that 3 up there
23:41 Yuzu-: right?
23:42 pishifat: what you mean
23:42 Yuzu-: It's hidden in the timeline
23:42 Yuzu-: and in game it's way up there
23:42 pishifat: it's not blocked by the health bar or anything tho :/
23:42 Yuzu-: Yeah
23:42 pishifat: i'd be fine moving it down
23:43 Yuzu-: it's fine as it is, but you could make it better
23:43 Yuzu-: Just try rotating counter clockwise and repositioning
23:43 Yuzu-: and create linear flow between 00:09:937 (3,4) -
23:43 Yuzu-: Should look fine
23:43 pishifat: was thinking of that yeah
23:44 Yuzu-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1784391
23:44 pishifat: i'd rather have 4 line up with the curve of 3
23:44 pishifat: but yeah it'll be moved around tehre
23:45 Yuzu-: 00:20:091 - 00:22:860 If the purpose of the drums here is to reinforce the guitar
23:45 Yuzu-: or whatever it's called
23:46 Yuzu-: You could just increase volume and add some whistles
23:46 Yuzu-: drums don't really make sense here
23:46 pishifat: someone else commented on that too
23:46 pishifat: i'm probably gonna just make lower pitch versions of the soft sampleset and use them there
23:47 Yuzu-: I'd say just increase volume and whistles, that'd be fine
23:47 pishifat: if lower pitch stuff doesn't sound good i'll do that
23:50 Yuzu-: 00:33:014 (3) - This reverse slider isn't bad, but I'd prefer to place a circle here to really impose the NC
23:51 pishifat: impose the NC
23:51 pishifat: what you mean
23:51 Yuzu-: Well, it's the big white tick
23:51 Yuzu-: the song kind of changes there
23:52 Yuzu-: so it's a strong beat
23:52 Yuzu-: you should map it with a circle
23:52 pishifat: well i'd agree if there were a strong beat in the music there :P
23:52 pishifat: the change in music comes at 00:34:399 (1) - cuz that's where the guitar appears
23:52 Yuzu-: The fact that the song changes a bit makes it an important beat
23:53 Yuzu-: and note that it changes there and actually allows for the guitar to fade in
23:54 pishifat: i'll see how it sounds then
23:54 Yuzu-: 00:34:399 - 00:37:630 - same thing with drums
23:55 pishifat: yeah already marked that
23:55 Yuzu-: Tell me when I can proceed
23:55 pishifat: any time
23:55 Yuzu-: 00:45:014 (1,2,3,4) - these
23:56 Yuzu-: let's say 1 has a certain volume
23:56 Yuzu-: 2 has less volume, and 3 and four have more
23:56 Yuzu-: This is an awful line of thought ;w;
23:57 Yuzu-: anyway, since 2 has less volume, and is less noticeable, I believe that you could instead create a slider replacing 00:45:014 (1,2) - and leave 00:45:937 (3,4) -
23:57 pishifat: um
23:57 pishifat: wat o.o
23:57 pishifat: i'd really rather leave those as is
23:57 pishifat: i see
23:57 pishifat: since this part is where it's building up more
23:58 pishifat: so making it the same style as the previous section would break that
23:58 Yuzu-: cuz it's like the volume decreases from 1 to 2
23:58 Yuzu-: so you could make a slider to describe that change, and then go with the 2 circles to suddenly change that
23:59 pishifat: trying it now
23:59 pishifat: don't like it as much as the way it was before, sorry :P
23:59 Yuzu-: Well sure c:
00:02 Yuzu-: 01:02:553 (6) - I see what you tried here, but if you listen closely there's no beat on red tick, and the beat you want to map is definitely on the previous white tick
00:03 Yuzu-: Also, I don't find the slider to very appealing, you might want to consider another shape IF you're keeping it
00:03 pishifat: i'd really rather not leave the space between those empty though
00:03 pishifat: i'll silence the slider end though as to not confuse with the song's rhythm
00:03 Yuzu-: that will do just fine
00:04 Yuzu-: consider a shape change then
00:04 pishifat: making the flat part curved upward seems to do pretty well
00:05 Yuzu-: 01:29:322 (1,2) - Ah, these two
00:05 pishifat: so yeah changed
00:05 Yuzu-: They're... very long.
00:05 pishifat: yes... yes they are
00:06 Yuzu-: If you're not going to change, I'd at least recommend reducing 01:31:168 (2) - 's duration by 1/2
00:07 Yuzu-: the white tick is significantly stronger than red tick
00:08 pishifat: i think with a previous mod i made it too long
00:08 pishifat: and didn't notice
00:08 pishifat: so changed :P
00:08 Yuzu-: finally
00:08 Yuzu-: 01:48:245 (3,4,5,6) -
00:08 Yuzu-: 01:49:629 (6) - ending in a blue tick isn't really a problem, but just to keep people off your back for some reason
00:08 Yuzu-: you could remake 01:48:245 (3,4,5,6) - into a spinner
00:09 pishifat: i don't really think it's a big deal. you won't even be able to tell since there's no notes after to screw with polarity
00:09 pishifat: and spinners wouldn't really fit in that kind of place imo
00:09 Yuzu-: True
00:10 Yuzu-: Well, keep that in mind for next mods
00:10 pishifat: you're the first to mention it :P but if more people do i'll consider
00:11 Yuzu-: On to hard
00:11 pishifat: k
00:13 Yuzu-: 00:09:937 - This tick shouldn't end up on the tail of a slider, it's kind of strong
00:13 Yuzu-: now, you can't just place a circle, so best would be placing a slider
00:14 pishifat: i see what you mean
00:14 pishifat: and can do
00:14 Yuzu-: and to not mess with the shape of your starting notes, you could simply remove the reverse, move the slider 1/1 farther and place a circle on the empty spot
00:14 Yuzu-: Stacking it
00:15 pishifat: i'll probably rotate the starting notes
00:15 pishifat: to avoid the stack
00:15 Yuzu-: if you can make it work then do c:
00:16 Yuzu-: 00:10:860 (6,7,1) - this is a tricky thing
00:16 Yuzu-: because it kind of zig zags a bit
00:16 Yuzu-: but in the end looks bad to me, because isn't symmetrical to 00:09:937 (5) -
00:16 pishifat: uh... i think that's fine
00:17 pishifat: really not that hard lol
00:17 Yuzu-: it isn't
00:17 pishifat: and it emphasizes the pitch drop by having 1 below it instead of flowing perfectly
00:17 pishifat: i'll move over 1 to make it a perfect triangle
00:17 pishifat: if that's what you mean
00:18 Yuzu-: no, it's a net of bad triangles there
00:18 Yuzu-: in my opinion just the circles there mark the pitch drop
00:19 Yuzu-: hmm
00:19 pishifat: a net of bad triangles
00:19 pishifat: dunno what you're referring to :|
00:19 Yuzu-: looking at all of the possible triangles there they're not all perfect
00:21 Yuzu-: without losing too much time with this
00:22 Yuzu-: I'd say that you should forget that blanket from 00:09:937 (5) - and place the two circles in a way that they're equally distant to both slider
00:22 pishifat: not sure what your perfect triangle is, but i'd probably change that first one you mentioend to look like 00:15:476 (1,2,3) -
00:22 pishifat: since that is much closer to a proper triangle
00:22 Yuzu-: and also making both sliders the same, but symmetrical helps
00:23 pishifat: i'd do that if they weren't part of different phrases in the music :/
00:23 pishifat: making them symmetrical would make them appear to be part of the same section when they're not as indicated by the comboing
00:23 Yuzu-: Well, okay
00:24 Yuzu-: you can leave it I guess, just my opinion
00:24 pishifat: i'll change it to be like the other triangle, so not completely leaving it
00:24 Yuzu-: okay c:
00:25 Yuzu-: 00:17:322 (4) - This is also huge, and takes the big white tick in the end
00:25 Yuzu-: problem isn't being huge, it looks good
00:26 Yuzu-: but that being clickable would be good because of the change
00:26 pishifat: based on teh way i've got it i'm putting more emphasis on 00:20:091 (1) -
00:26 pishifat: which is why i started the combo there
00:26 pishifat: so changing wouldn't be very benefitcial
00:27 Yuzu-: still, NC problem remains
00:27 Yuzu-: 00:19:630 (5) - nc should be here for the same reasons as in normal
00:27 Yuzu-: The guitar fades in here, and 00:19:630 (5) - is the start
00:28 pishifat: i think we're listening to different sounds
00:28 pishifat: cuz guitar is pretty clear on 00:20:091 (1) -
00:29 Yuzu-: Yes it does, but the truth is that the song changes in the big white tick
00:29 Yuzu-: the pitch goes down in preparation for the guitar
00:29 Yuzu-: and since you won't place an object to NC there 00:19:630 (5) - should carry it
00:30 Yuzu-: it is in part to keep your NC'ing consistent as well
00:30 pishifat: yeah..yeahokay i'll do it :3
00:31 pishifat: noticed that i had the same thing later
00:31 pishifat: but NC on where 5 is
00:31 Yuzu-: 00:23:783 (2) - This one, the tail is significantly stronger than the tail, which means that replacing this with two circles would be the best
00:31 Yuzu-: tail > head
00:31 Yuzu-: my bad xD
00:32 pishifat: it's higher pitch
00:32 pishifat: not really significantly stronger
00:32 pishifat: i've got the same thing on all 3 difficulties there i think and it's fine how it is :P
00:32 Yuzu-: Well, okay
00:33 pishifat: would ruin the emphasis i have with circles on 00:24:707 (3,4) - too, so that's why not changing
00:33 Yuzu-: 00:43:168 (3) - It's not really bad
00:34 Yuzu-: but personally I like when sliders just lead into other objects perfectly/almost perfectly
00:34 Yuzu-: it's kind of sending the cursor under 00:44:091 (4) -
00:34 pishifat: did that since 4 is a really high pitch noise
00:35 pishifat: i'll change it tho, it doesn't look too good
00:36 Yuzu-: 01:15:476 (3,4,5,6) - This curve feels a bit weird
00:37 pishifat: yes it does
00:37 pishifat: gonna move things
00:37 Yuzu-: moving 01:15:014 (2) - down is perfect to help
00:41 Yuzu-: kiai rhythm could be changed
00:42 Yuzu-: all those blue tick circles could feel better
00:42 Yuzu-: let me get something
00:42 pishifat: something
00:42 pishifat: k
00:49 Yuzu-: I honestly don't know how to go over this one
00:49 Yuzu-: http://puu.sh/9XaCe/647b287960.jpg This is the best I got for me, idk how you want to do it but
00:49 Yuzu-: that 2 slider on a blue tick after 1 feels extremely well to me
00:50 pishifat: having doubles like that
00:50 pishifat: doesn't feel right at all :/
00:50 Yuzu-: your rhythm is fine
00:50 Yuzu-: it's more simple
00:50 Yuzu-: I just had to throw in the suggestion c:
00:50 pishifat: lol
00:50 Yuzu-: hehe
00:51 Yuzu-: rest looks fine
00:51 pishifat: :D
00:52 Yuzu-: Well, it's getting late for me
00:52 Yuzu-: Do you mind if I finish insane on forum?
00:52 pishifat: go for it
00:52 Yuzu-: ok, let me post the chat logs then
00:52 pishifat: you don't have to do insane if you don't want to
00:53 pishifat: irc mods take longer than forum mods it seems lol
00:53 Yuzu-: xD
00:53 Yuzu-: No, I'll do it
00:53 Yuzu-: I don't like leaving things mid way
00:53 Yuzu-: first thing tomorrow

[Insane]

  1. 00:24:476 (4), 00:24:707 (5,6) - the red ticks that you mapped here have no sound attached to them. Just use a 1/1 slider from 00:24:706 to 00:25:168 and delete 00:24:476 (4) made the ends of sliders quieter so it sounds more natural. didnt want to get rid of them completely
  2. 00:31:168 (4,5) - ^
  3. 01:11:207 (2,3,4,5) - I found this to be confusing to myself, I'd CTRL + G 3 and 4 nobody likes antijumps ;-; changed this to something else
S-Sugoi! owo

byezies, gl <3 thanks babe <3
Ringating
I know I probably shouldn't say this, but :roll:
Topic Starter
pishifat

Ringating wrote:

I know I probably shouldn't say this, but :roll:
that's really not cool. you shouldn't say something so offensive about considering how much he got hurt after that one time when he . seriously not cool. die pls
Ringating
non mawd

steamy logs
15:57 - 『Ringating』: 00:58:861 (5,6,7,1) -
15:57 - 『Ringating』: seems like it should follow guitar
15:57 - 『Ringating』: yet doesn't
15:57 - pishizor.: is this legit
15:57 - 『Ringating』: yes
15:57 - pishizor.: what diff
15:57 - 『Ringating』: ionsane
15:57 - 『Ringating』: -o
15:58 - 『Ringating』: not 1 btw
15:58 - 『Ringating』: just highlighted too much
15:58 - pishizor.: i see
15:58 - pishizor.: it is like
15:58 - pishizor.: on blue tick
15:59 - pishizor.: must delete SV change first
15:59 - 『Ringating』: end of 5 should be beginning of 6
15:59 - pishizor.: i think ur high
15:59 - pishizor.: http://gyazo.com/bc0d0cc984856e93b358926e4f62b687
15:59 - pishizor.: that's guitar
16:00 - 『Ringating』: http://gyazo.com/b37e6372bf6ecb0d2f8643ba57c22735
16:00 - pishizor.: with each note change on start of tick
16:00 - pishizor.: yes
16:00 - pishizor.: except keeping 1
16:00 - 『Ringating』: 6 starts on end of old 5
16:00 - pishizor.: hmm
16:00 - pishizor.: i misinterpreted originally
16:00 - pishizor.: as make 5
16:01 - pishizor.: go to where 6 started before
16:01 - 『Ringating』: i see
16:01 - 『Ringating』: u were right about the high part tho #420blazedtoshit
16:02 - pishizor.: le changed
also on the hard diff 01:33:014 (1,2,1,2) - seems like it should be similar to 01:40:860 (1,2,3,4) - (including the lack of middle NC)
Topic Starter
pishifat

Ringating wrote:

non mawd

steamy logs
15:57 - 『Ringating』: 00:58:861 (5,6,7,1) -
15:57 - 『Ringating』: seems like it should follow guitar
15:57 - 『Ringating』: yet doesn't
15:57 - pishizor.: is this legit
15:57 - 『Ringating』: yes
15:57 - pishizor.: what diff
15:57 - 『Ringating』: ionsane
15:57 - 『Ringating』: -o
15:58 - 『Ringating』: not 1 btw
15:58 - 『Ringating』: just highlighted too much
15:58 - pishizor.: i see
15:58 - pishizor.: it is like
15:58 - pishizor.: on blue tick
15:59 - pishizor.: must delete SV change first
15:59 - 『Ringating』: end of 5 should be beginning of 6
15:59 - pishizor.: i think ur high
15:59 - pishizor.: http://gyazo.com/bc0d0cc984856e93b358926e4f62b687
15:59 - pishizor.: that's guitar
16:00 - 『Ringating』: http://gyazo.com/b37e6372bf6ecb0d2f8643ba57c22735
16:00 - pishizor.: with each note change on start of tick
16:00 - pishizor.: yes
16:00 - pishizor.: except keeping 1
16:00 - 『Ringating』: 6 starts on end of old 5
16:00 - pishizor.: hmm
16:00 - pishizor.: i misinterpreted originally
16:00 - pishizor.: as make 5
16:01 - pishizor.: go to where 6 started before
16:01 - 『Ringating』: i see
16:01 - 『Ringating』: u were right about the high part tho #420blazedtoshit
16:02 - pishizor.: le changed
also on the hard diff 01:33:014 (1,2,1,2) - seems like it should be similar to 01:40:860 (1,2,3,4) - (including the lack of middle NC)
best mod yet. two changes that took stupidly long to actually implement
Gaia
Hi from my queue
Not exactly my type of music but I did promise that I'd mod it so here goes..

[General]
Suggenstion at around 00:45:014 - since the music gets louder here why not crescendo your hitsounds ? maybe by like 3% each time or something?
derp nice sb though I didn't notice the bg changed color till I finished modding

[Normal]
Check ur DS with AIMod
00:17:322 (3) - best if it reflects 00:15:476 (1) -
00:20:091 (1) - hitsounds a bit loud
00:34:399 (1) - ^
00:45:014 (1) - ^ and change to top one? http://puu.sh/a0dHJ/89d9c8c04c.jpg
00:50:553 (3,1,1) - center these
Not much to say here, quite nicely done

[Hard]
00:36:707 (6,1) - blanket
00:52:399 (1) - not enough emphasis on this note
01:34:860 (1,1) - blanket

[Insane]
01:39:937 (4) - Ctrl +G
meh good job [:

Map wise you've done a nice job, I don't see any problems with the rhythms either.. so sry for a short ass mod lmao
Hitsounds tho I think there's room for improvement. I guess just listen to cinema/auto and hear for urself? (I'm pretty bad at it too tho)
anyways im out pce
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

Gaia wrote:

Hi from my queue
Not exactly my type of music but I did promise that I'd mod it so here goes.. woo

[General]
Suggenstion at around 00:45:014 - since the music gets louder here why not crescendo your hitsounds ? maybe by like 3% each time or something? did something like that. should be better now with a change to the first volume
derp nice sb though I didn't notice the bg changed color till I finished modding lol

[Normal]
Check ur DS with AIMod don't know how that moved over like 5 pixels -.-
00:17:322 (3) - best if it reflects 00:15:476 (1) - changed this to something different since old way was gross
00:20:091 (1) - hitsounds a bit loud haven't gotten around to changing those yet. was planning to already
00:34:399 (1) - ^
00:45:014 (1) - ^ and change to top one? http://puu.sh/a0dHJ/89d9c8c04c.jpg this was supposed to be at 30% :/
00:50:553 (3,1,1) - center these did
Not much to say here, quite nicely done awwshucks:3

[Hard]
00:36:707 (6,1) - blanket not supposed to be a blanket :P would destroy the distance snap
00:52:399 (1) - not enough emphasis on this note can't do much with this. best way i've found to emphasize would be a stack (like in normal/insane), but then the new SV/DS would be unreadable :/ i'll definitely change it if i can find something that works though
01:34:860 (1,1) - blanket same as other one. 3/4 slider to circle wouldn't play very nicely with that spacing :P

[Insane]
01:39:937 (4) - Ctrl +G breaks the kind of flow i was going for, so rather not :/
meh good job [:

Map wise you've done a nice job, I don't see any problems with the rhythms either.. so sry for a short ass mod lmao
Hitsounds tho I think there's room for improvement. I guess just listen to cinema/auto and hear for urself? (I'm pretty bad at it too tho) already had plans for hitsound changes. i know i'm bad with them lol
anyways im out pce
sullyjhf
Yo, from my Modding Queue

[Normal]
Consider lowering the approach rate a tiny bit

00:17:322 (3) - Excellent slider and use of the slider tick btw :D

00:33:014 (3,1) - Blanket this slider a bit better
(move first point to x:256 y:156
second point to x:296 y:188
final point to x:360 y:188
seems to do it quite nicely however if you find it looks better elsewhere then do that instead).

Other than that it seems pretty good!

[Hard]
00:17:322 (4) - Again I want to start off by saying this is a really cool use of the slider tick :)

00:22:168 (8) - Change this into a single note at 00:22:168 and a slider from 00:22:399 to 00:22:629

00:47:783 (5) - make this start hitsound the same as 00:49:630 (2)

01:04:399 (3) - Move close to the repeating slider

01:19:399 (2,3,4) - Spread these apart a little?

01:23:207 (4,5) - Make these closer together
01:25:053 (3,4) - ^
01:26:899 (4,5) - ^
01:30:591 (4,5) - ^
01:32:437 (4,5) - ^
01:34:860 (1,1) - ^

[Insane]
00:50:553 (5) - Consider moving this to the right a bit so it's not 100% overlapping this 00:51:476 (1)

01:01:630 (1,2) - Make these more of a stacked double rather than being so far apart
01:02:092 (3,4) - ^
01:04:630 (7,8) - Because having these two like this makes it feel odd

01:19:399 (2,3,4) - I thought this was a stream on my first play

01:21:014 (3) - This slider looks strange but it fits so you could change it's shape if you wanted to

01:22:745 (5) - Move this so it's on the red tick and also make it closer to this 01:22:284 (4) It feels strange where it is at the moment

Generally a lot of your notes go out of the playing field, you could bring them in a smidge to please the BATs but I think it's fine how it is.

Nice first map to kick off my modding queue, not my type of music but the map was still fun to play :)
Good Luck!
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

sullyjhf wrote:

Yo, from my Modding Queue yo

[Normal]
Consider lowering the approach rate a tiny bit used to be a 9,7,5 spread, but i changed insane to 8.5 so lowered this to 4.5

00:17:322 (3) - Excellent slider and use of the slider tick btw :D :3

00:33:014 (3,1) - Blanket this slider a bit better didn't use your coordinates since they break distance snap a little, but yeah i fixed it
(move first point to x:256 y:156
second point to x:296 y:188
final point to x:360 y:188
seems to do it quite nicely however if you find it looks better elsewhere then do that instead).

Other than that it seems pretty good! woo

[Hard]
00:17:322 (4) - Again I want to start off by saying this is a really cool use of the slider tick :) :3

00:22:168 (8) - Change this into a single note at 00:22:168 and a slider from 00:22:399 to 00:22:629 rather keep the reverse slider in there since there's a triplet sort of thing with pitches (like an a->b->a pattern), but i noticed i actually had the reverse in the wrong place, so it was inconsistent with insane. long story short i changed something lol

00:47:783 (5) - make this start hitsound the same as 00:49:630 (2) changed

01:04:399 (3) - Move close to the repeating slider that's where it is with every other repeating slider. 1.2x spacing just like everything else o.o

01:19:399 (2,3,4) - Spread these apart a little? antijumps work pretty well tehre for emphasis from waht i've seen. testplayers haven't misread it and i like it so i'm keeping it :P

01:23:207 (4,5) - Make these closer together these are distance snapped so it would be kind of weird to have different spacing for each one. the map's only 130bpm and there's not a gap between them really so it shouldn't be a big issue :P
01:25:053 (3,4) - ^
01:26:899 (4,5) - ^
01:30:591 (4,5) - ^
01:32:437 (4,5) - ^
01:34:860 (1,1) - ^

[Insane]
00:50:553 (5) - Consider moving this to the right a bit so it's not 100% overlapping this 00:51:476 (1) that's the point of it though :P emphasizes the build up a lot more like that

01:01:630 (1,2) - Make these more of a stacked double rather than being so far apart would contradict with the other anti-jump type stacks i've got. if i were to make those into jumps, they would have to be really large and bad for readibility :/
01:02:092 (3,4) - ^
01:04:630 (7,8) - Because having these two like this makes it feel odd

01:19:399 (2,3,4) - I thought this was a stream on my first play same as hard

01:21:014 (3) - This slider looks strange but it fits so you could change it's shape if you wanted to best slider 2014

01:22:745 (5) - Move this so it's on the red tick and also make it closer to this 01:22:284 (4) It feels strange where it is at the moment guitar stuff is on offbeats, just like the last section. i changed the location of htis though since it may have been hard to read at that distance

Generally a lot of your notes go out of the playing field, you could bring them in a smidge to please the BATs but I think it's fine how it is. did that for normal and hard. for insane, i assume if you can play it that kind of stuff isn't a problem :P

Nice first map to kick off my modding queue, not my type of music but the map was still fun to play :) nobody likes this music on osu ;-; thanks for the mod though :3
Good Luck!
Venellys
hi, from V&V's modding queue

[Normal]
  • 00:25:630 (5) - smooth like the next slider for good flowing.
    00:27:476 (2,5) - overlap
    01:15:476 (2,4) - stack slider's tail
[Hard]
  • 00:13:630 (4,1) - stack to avoid overlap like this
    01:11:553 (2,3) - make blanket here, if no, sharpen the slider.
    01:31:168 (1) - this slider is too sharp for this flow, smooth like the slider on 01:29:322 (1) -
sorry if my mod is small or helpless, too perfect for a newbie modder..... good luck~
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

VeeLaHee104 wrote:

hi, from V&V's modding queue

[Normal]
  • 00:25:630 (5) - smooth like the next slider for good flowing. moved 1 down and to the left so it does that
    00:27:476 (2,5) - overlap not really significant since you can't see it ingame :P
    01:15:476 (2,4) - stack slider's tail oops. fixed
[Hard]
  • 00:13:630 (4,1) - stack to avoid overlap like this moved 1,2,3 lower
    01:11:553 (2,3) - make blanket here, if no, sharpen the slider. blanketted
    01:31:168 (1) - this slider is too sharp for this flow, smooth like the slider on 01:29:322 (1) - yeah, changed
sorry if my mod is small or helpless, too perfect for a newbie modder..... good luck~ fixed most things, so was useful :P
jyu
Hi, from queue :3
dat title

mostly shitty suggestions. and pardon my bad english

[Insane]

  • 00:23:784 (3) - not a problem though, but i thought this was a straight slider. only suggestion, but maybe you can make this slider flow upward like this :
    SPOILER

    and it also makes the flow more challenging idk
    00:36:707 (7) - the song makes me want to click on something. only suggestion, but why not make it into a series of circles? i think it's kinda fun for insane
    00:48:707 (1) - add finish? kinda suits the hitsound pattern at 00:46:861 (5,6) -
    00:52:514 - the hitsound is barely audible for me :cry: and at this part the song goes really loud and it makes me want to hear louder hitsounds. i suggest to make the hitsound louder 60%-70%
    01:00:706 - to 01:06:706 - ^
    01:02:553 (5) - fits the song better if you switch finish with whistle
    01:03:707 (2) - add whistle at slider's tail?
    01:35:552 (3) - ^
    01:37:629 (2) - add whistle?
    01:46:398 (1,2) - add whistle at slider's tail?
    01:48:245 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - it feels much cooler if you add whistles

    hella this is a fun insane. you might want to improve the aesthetics a bit. but since that area is really biased, so i choose not to focus on that. as long as the map plays well
[Hard]

  • 00:48:707 (1) - only suggestion, add finish at slider's head? kinda fits these two 00:46:860 (3,4) -
    00:51:476 (1) - why would you nc this? idk since it's hard diff, i think people will notice the change in sv even without nc
    00:52:514 - same like insane. why's the hitsound so quite :cry:
    00:53:322 (3) - add whistle? same hitsound pattern like insane diff
    00:56:783 - add a circle?
    00:57:014 (2) - add whistle?
    01:00:707 (2) - ^
    01:04:399 (3) - ^
    01:05:322 (1,2,3) - ^
    01:11:783 (3) - only suggestion for slider's shape idk maybe you want to re-arrange the next pattern if you follow
    01:35:783 (2) - add whistle at slider's head?
    01:36:706 (4) - add whistle?
    01:38:552 (3) - add whistle at slider's head? idk it kinda fits the song more, and i see that you already add whistles at every 1st and 3rd white line. but it feels kinda weird when you don't add whistle at 2nd and 4th white line especially when the song clearly indicates the strong hitsound at those points, so yeah
    01:39:475 (2) - ^
    01:40:398 (4) - ^
    01:43:168 (2) - ^
    01:44:091 (4) - ^
    01:44:091 (4,1) - small spacing issue
    01:45:014 (3,7) - add whistle?
    01:46:860 (2,5) - ^

    ok idk if my hitsound suggestions would help, but yeah
[Normal]

  • 00:33:014 (3) - only suggestion. you might have to adjust the next pattern if you follow
    SPOILER

    copypaste 00:32:091 (2) - ->ctrl+H -> rotate by 45 degree anti-clockwise -> ctrl+G
    00:46:860 (5) - why not make the hitsound pattern the same like hard and insane? i like it better. add finish at 00:46:860 - 00:47:322 - and whistle at 00:47:783 -
    00:52:514 - same like hard and insane about the hitsound volume :cry:
    00:52:860 (2) - add whistle at slider's tail?
    00:55:168 (5) - add whistle?
    00:57:014 (3) - ^
    01:00:707 (2) - ^
    01:04:399 (2) - ^
    01:35:322 - to 01:48:245 - it really feels weird when you don't add whistle at 2nd and 4th white line :cry: same reason like hard. i strongly suggest you to remove whistle from 1st and 3rd white line and add them at 2nd and 4th white line. also apply for hard and insane
good mapset :3 might be better if you improved the pattern structure. especially in insane, everything is really abstract. but well, it's up to you
goodluck~
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

AlpacaCokelat wrote:

Hi, from queue :3 :3
dat title title length world record right here

mostly shitty suggestions. and pardon my bad english

[Insane]

  • 00:23:784 (3) - not a problem though, but i thought this was a straight slider. only suggestion, but maybe you can make this slider flow upward like this : sure. fits well
    SPOILER

    and it also makes the flow more challenging idk
    00:36:707 (7) - the song makes me want to click on something. only suggestion, but why not make it into a series of circles? i think it's kinda fun for insane i am a fan
    00:48:707 (1) - add finish? kinda suits the hitsound pattern at 00:46:861 (5,6) - was sounding kind of empty
    00:52:514 - the hitsound is barely audible for me :cry: and at this part the song goes really loud and it makes me want to hear louder hitsounds. i suggest to make the hitsound louder 60%-70% increased most stuff past the beginning by like 10%
    01:00:706 - to 01:06:706 - ^
    01:02:553 (5) - fits the song better if you switch finish with whistle correct
    01:03:707 (2) - add whistle at slider's tail? you're too good at this
    01:35:552 (3) - ^ asdf
    01:37:629 (2) - add whistle? asdf
    01:46:398 (1,2) - add whistle at slider's tail? asdf
    01:48:245 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - it feels much cooler if you add whistles did it on the 1,2,3,4 slider stuffs. the stream already has it on the white ticks so yeah

    hella this is a fun insane. you might want to improve the aesthetics a bit. but since that area is really biased, so i choose not to focus on that. as long as the map plays well don't really know how i would improve visuals since i like how it is. if someone else mentions stuff to help that though i'd definitely change
[Hard]
i applied all hitsound things so i'm not gonna comment on every single one :P
  • 00:48:707 (1) - only suggestion, add finish at slider's head? kinda fits these two 00:46:860 (3,4) -
    00:51:476 (1) - why would you nc this? idk since it's hard diff, i think people will notice the change in sv even without nc i dont even know
    00:52:514 - same like insane. why's the hitsound so quite :cry:
    00:53:322 (3) - add whistle? same hitsound pattern like insane diff ]
    00:56:783 - add a circle? added
    00:57:014 (2) - add whistle?
    01:00:707 (2) - ^
    01:04:399 (3) - ^
    01:05:322 (1,2,3) - ^
    01:11:783 (3) - only suggestion for slider's shape idk maybe you want to re-arrange the next pattern if you follow wasn't liking the old angle too much anyway.
    01:35:783 (2) - add whistle at slider's head?
    01:36:706 (4) - add whistle?
    01:38:552 (3) - add whistle at slider's head? idk it kinda fits the song more, and i see that you already add whistles at every 1st and 3rd white line. but it feels kinda weird when you don't add whistle at 2nd and 4th white line especially when the song clearly indicates the strong hitsound at those points, so yeah
    01:39:475 (2) - ^
    01:40:398 (4) - ^
    01:43:168 (2) - ^
    01:44:091 (4) - ^
    01:44:091 (4,1) - small spacing issue scumbag distance snap
    01:45:014 (3,7) - add whistle?
    01:46:860 (2,5) - ^

    ok idk if my hitsound suggestions would help, but yeah very yeah
[Normal]
same thing about hitsound stuffs as hard
  • 00:33:014 (3) - only suggestion. you might have to adjust the next pattern if you follow i like
    SPOILER

    copypaste 00:32:091 (2) - ->ctrl+H -> rotate by 45 degree anti-clockwise -> ctrl+G
    00:46:860 (5) - why not make the hitsound pattern the same like hard and insane? i like it better. add finish at 00:46:860 - 00:47:322 - and whistle at 00:47:783 -
    00:52:514 - same like hard and insane about the hitsound volume :cry:
    00:52:860 (2) - add whistle at slider's tail?
    00:55:168 (5) - add whistle?
    00:57:014 (3) - ^
    01:00:707 (2) - ^
    01:04:399 (2) - ^
    01:35:322 - to 01:48:245 - it really feels weird when you don't add whistle at 2nd and 4th white line :cry: same reason like hard. i strongly suggest you to remove whistle from 1st and 3rd white line and add them at 2nd and 4th white line. also apply for hard and insane all hitsounds are now consistent yay
good mapset :3 might be better if you improved the pattern structure. especially in insane, everything is really abstract. but well, it's up to you
goodluck~ ty for the fantastic mod
[-Sophie-]_old
From my moe queue
Not my type of song..
[Hard]
Fine!
[Insane]
Fine!
Topic Starter
pishifat
re?

[-Sophie-] wrote:

From my moe queue
Not my type of song..
[Hard]

Fine!
[Insane]
Fine!
well... thanks for checking at least. i can't give kudosu for just showing me a screenshot of aimod though :/ especially since there's nothing wrong hard having those DS breaks
Seijiro
Mod request from my modding queue :)

[General]

- Remove Widescreen Support: you don't have a SB for your Beatmap ;)

The diffs were fine for me :)
Let me suggest few things: How do you think about adding crescent volume for the first spinner? And what about some "sliderslide" hitsounds for Normal's long sliders?

Well, that's all :)
Good Luck ;)
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

[-MrSergio-] wrote:

Mod request from my modding queue :)

[General]

- Remove Widescreen Support: you don't have a SB for your Beatmap ;) uh... there is a storyboard o.o

The diffs were fine for me :)
Let me suggest few things: How do you think about adding crescent volume for the first spinner? sure, why not And what about some "sliderslide" hitsounds for Normal's long sliders? if i were to follow the hitsound pattern there, there wouldn't be hitsounds on the ticks anyway, so not too necessary
Well, that's all :)
Good Luck ;)
Myxo



  • General
  1. 01:33:014 - It's not a must-fix, but I would definitely end the kiai here already. What follows seems like a less emphasized transition from the kiai-part to the following one, that doesn't have the beat fromt the kiai.
  2. 01:35:322 - Umm, I might not get it, but what purpose has this uninherited timing section? The BPM / Offset doesn't change, neither does the metre.
  3. When I look at this (awesome) storyboard, the most obvious idea comes in my mind: You could have used different combo colours in different sections of the map, for example two or three tones of blue until 00:52:399 and from there on more brown / red combo colours. If you are bored and don't know what to do then try this out, it will look amazing :)


  • Normal
  1. I'm a bit worried about your density in some sections of this diff. In the calm sections at the beginning, you mapped to white ticks only, which is very good. Then, starting here 00:52:399 you were mapping to red ticks a lot more. 01:07:168 - Here you went back to white-tick mapping, because it's a rather basic transition-section leading to the chorus. What bothers me is the chorus itself: You've only mapped to white ticks in that section, although it is definitely the most emphasized and aggressive section in the song. To me, it feels like you wanted to keep the white-tick mapping throughout the whole song but just didn't know how to do it in this section 00:52:399, because some red-tick beats were too strong to ignore them. Now there are two methods that could fix this problem:
    1. First one would be to reduce the density of notes in this part 00:52:399, to make the whole diff rely on white-tick mapping very much. The advantage would be that it would make this diff easier, which wouldn't hurt since it's the easiest diff of the mapset. The disadvantages would be that this section would have rather weird rhythm then and it's just not cool :)
    2. Or the second solution: Add notes in the kiai to make the density higher and just make the map more balanced. Disadvantage is obviously that the diff would get pretty hard, especially for an easiest diff of the mapset. But since this is 130 BPM, some more red-tick mapping in the kiai shouldn't be too difficult to handle for the newbies. Advantage would be that it would make the diff much more interesting and balanced.
    I hope you decided for solution #2. Now, how to do this: Following the drums wouldn't make much sense, since there is an emphasized drum beat at every red tick. But, you could notice that the main instrument has an emphasized beat always at the red tick before the big white line, for example here 01:23:553 + 01:25:399 + 01:27:245. If you would add circles at these spots, it would sound super-nice! You don't have to do it on every of these beats, but every second one or something like that would also work.
  2. 00:32:091 (2,3) - I really like how you used curved sliders and smooth flow in the calm sections, and red-anchor-sliders with drop-offs in the aggressive parts. This transition here breaks your smooth flow a bit though, so you might want to change it. For example: http://puu.sh/a9uhT/27e5b113f4.jpg
  3. 00:58:860 (7) - Minor, but if you rotate this slider a bit to the left, the transition to the following objects will improve imo. http://puu.sh/a9uHF/080b26a844.jpg
  4. 01:02:553 (6) - This rhythm could be improved. 01:03:014 seems to be a rather emphasized guitar beat, while there isn't really anything important at 01:03:245, so a 1/1-slider would do the job. http://puu.sh/a9tPy/90f1175dc7.jpg
  5. 01:48:245 (3) - The end really sounds different from the section before, so this could use a NC.


  • Hard
  1. 00:13:630 (4,5) - Minor, but currently these look like they are supposed to be copy-pasted and flipped versions of each other, which they aren't. It makes them look a bit untidy.
  2. 00:36:707 (6) - Uhh, in my opinion this slidershape doesn't represent the scream very well (and looks a bit sloppy made in general). I know those multiple-white-anchorpoint sliders are getting common again, but something like this http://puu.sh/a9v4z/299df4c058.jpg would look better and fit the song more.
  3. 00:50:553 (1) - Hmm, I don't think this rhythm fits here. Since you follow the vocals, and they clearly end at 00:51:014, the slider should go on until this point. http://puu.sh/a9vXW/923dae2277.jpg
  4. 01:01:630 (1,2,3) - Minor, but the placement of these looks a bit random. The 1/4-sliders clearly belong together, so it would be nice if you created a sort of pattern with them, for example http://puu.sh/a9w5Q/173fc55b6b.jpg - It would also improve the movement here a bit.
  5. 01:06:707 (4) - In the Hard diff I wouldn't simplify the rhythm like this. A 3/4-slider, silenced like in the Insane, sounds much better here. You also did that at 01:34:860, so changing it here would make it more consistent. http://puu.sh/a9tYi/ddc3c0dc7e.jpg
  6. 01:10:860 (1,2,3) - Those sound a bit too empty compared to the measures before (01:07:168 (1,2,3,4,5) + 01:09:014 (1,2,3,4,5) + the rest of the section) although it is basically the same rhythm, so I'd recommend you to map on all 1/2 beats here for consistency.
  7. 01:21:014 (3) - This slider looks a bit random, especially for what it represents in the music. The sound effect would be better represented if most of this slidershape would be a curve, like this http://puu.sh/a9vq9/81e2634588.jpg
  8. 01:45:014 (3,4) - Is the lower spacing intentional? It looks rather random if you ask me.
  9. 01:48:245 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Simplifying constant 1/4-beats, where every beat sounds the same, to triplets seems weird and unlogical. Either do it all with 1/4-repeatsliders or decide for something like this http://puu.sh/a9vHS/0d911dde27.jpg to emphasize the end more or something similiar that covers all beats.


  • Insane
  1. I'd definitely go with HP8. It would make playing this diff twice as awesome as before. First of all, you also chose pretty high HP-drain settings for the Normal & Hard diff. Secondly, and more important, this is a very aggressive song, so HP8 feels much more appropriate. You might worry about the calm section until the middle of the map, but there is nothing to worry about. You won't fail even when you miss two objects in a row, and you would expect players of this difficulty level not to miss more objects in such a calm section. It just has an awesome effect seeing the HP-bar going down so far and then jumping back up, especially in the calm section.
  2. Second and probably more personal setting would be AR9. I know that I'm the only one who said this yet, but I want you to view this from a different point of view: In this section 01:21:937 the density of notes is very high. Also, the slider velocity is really high (2 x 1,4 = 2,8), which makes the sliders feel way to fast for AR8,5. Imagine how you would map a 260BPM song; It would probably be like this section. It would have a similiar slider velocity, it would have similiar spacing and similiar rhythm. You might worry now about the calm section again, but in my opinion higher AR doesn't make a calm section less playable ; Instead, it adds much to the atmosphere this section provides. When hearing it, you are getting prepared for the fast part of the song, you sort of really expect it to happen. To summarise it: When I first played this map, I did tons of sliderbreaks in the kiai-section because I didn't expect them to be so fast. When I tested it with AR9, it played all fine.
  3. 00:13:630 (3,4) - It would be nice to have 1,7x spacing between these as well, it would give this pattern 00:13:629 (3,4,5,6,1) more structure.
  4. 00:19:168 (1) - If seems strange that you ignored this beat 00:19:629, because that's where the guitar starts to play the constant 1/2-beats. This rhythm would sound better: http://puu.sh/a9wwg/d0bf69fbf2.jpg
  5. 00:21:015 (6) - A combo of 10 seems a bit much for a calm section like this. Adding an NC here would be a good solution, especially since your pattern changes here as well (since the head of 00:21:015 (6) breaks the perfect curve 00:20:092 (2,3,4,5))
  6. 00:35:783 (5) - I'd add a NC for the same reason as 00:21:015
  7. 01:01:629 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It might be personal preference, but having these doubles with a relatively high 1/4-spacing in connection with jumps in between them plays a bit less smoothly than your other patterns, if you understand what I mean. To make your diff more accessible for the generic players, you might change these to 1/4-sliders. http://puu.sh/a9wTd/c420e6ff6c.jpg
  8. 01:03:015 (7) - SV-changes are likely to be misread when they are not NCd, atleast it's common to NC those. Therefore you should probably NC this object.
  9. 01:06:707 (6) - Same.
  10. 01:07:976 (4) - This would definitely play better if you use Ctrl+G, since it would create a more oval movement which works well together with big spacing like this. Also (!minor!) this slidershape could be a bit less regular, since you always used more special slidershapes for these sliders (for example 01:09:822 (3) + 01:15:361 (4)), and something like this http://puu.sh/a9xiQ/39228fa8dd.jpg would just complement the other sliders better.
  11. 01:08:438 (5,6,7) - Nice idea I suppose, but the angle from (5) to (6) feels a bit overdone if you ask me, so something like this would improve the flow: http://puu.sh/a9xpk/d05ea333b5.jpg
  12. 01:21:014 (3) - The whistle at the end sounds really random and doesn't seem to have a purpose.

I explained some things in a little wall of text to make it really clear and show all advantages / disadvantages. I hope you don't mind reading through that. If you have any further question about that, ask ingame.
I can't describe how much I love this song and the map tho! Good luck :)
Topic Starter
pishifat
re

Desperate-kun wrote:


  • General
  1. 01:33:014 - It's not a must-fix, but I would definitely end the kiai here already. What follows seems like a less emphasized transition from the kiai-part to the following one, that doesn't have the beat fromt the kiai. gonna have to decline because musically, it doesn't make much sense. the sort of "sections" are divided into 8 bars (marked by bookmarks here), so if i were to cut this one short and make it 6 bars, it would be leaving 2 bars off of the end of the phrase. they would then be grouped with the next 8 bar phrase, which is yaknow not good.
  2. 01:35:322 - Umm, I might not get it, but what purpose has this uninherited timing section? The BPM / Offset doesn't change, neither does the metre. for whatever reason, there's a 1/1 bar stuck right in the middle of the song, so the downbeat was off by a white tick after that point without the new timing tick. i've decided to add a new section that just changes the metre to 1/1 for that bar then switches back to 4/4 since it's actually right and it may clear up confusion (or cause more -.-)
  3. When I look at this (awesome) storyboard, the most obvious idea comes in my mind: You could have used different combo colours in different sections of the map, for example two or three tones of blue until 00:52:399 and from there on more brown / red combo colours. If you are bored and don't know what to do then try this out, it will look amazing :) i always edit with combo colors off so i never even thought about that. will do


  • Normal
  1. I'm a bit worried about your density in some sections of this diff. In the calm sections at the beginning, you mapped to white ticks only, which is very good. Then, starting here 00:52:399 you were mapping to red ticks a lot more. 01:07:168 - Here you went back to white-tick mapping, because it's a rather basic transition-section leading to the chorus. What bothers me is the chorus itself: You've only mapped to white ticks in that section, although it is definitely the most emphasized and aggressive section in the song. To me, it feels like you wanted to keep the white-tick mapping throughout the whole song but just didn't know how to do it in this section 00:52:399, because some red-tick beats were too strong to ignore them. Now there are two methods that could fix this problem:
    1. First one would be to reduce the density of notes in this part 00:52:399, to make the whole diff rely on white-tick mapping very much. The advantage would be that it would make this diff easier, which wouldn't hurt since it's the easiest diff of the mapset. The disadvantages would be that this section would have rather weird rhythm then and it's just not cool :)
    2. Or the second solution: Add notes in the kiai to make the density higher and just make the map more balanced. Disadvantage is obviously that the diff would get pretty hard, especially for an easiest diff of the mapset. But since this is 130 BPM, some more red-tick mapping in the kiai shouldn't be too difficult to handle for the newbies. Advantage would be that it would make the diff much more interesting and balanced.
    I hope you decided for solution #2. Now, how to do this: Following the drums wouldn't make much sense, since there is an emphasized drum beat at every red tick. But, you could notice that the main instrument has an emphasized beat always at the red tick before the big white line, for example here 01:23:553 + 01:25:399 + 01:27:245. If you would add circles at these spots, it would sound super-nice! You don't have to do it on every of these beats, but every second one or something like that would also work. went with option 2. the reason why i put everything on whtie ticks here was that the main melody is on blue ticks most of the time, which are pretty much forbidden in a normal
  2. 00:32:091 (2,3) - I really like how you used curved sliders and smooth flow in the calm sections, and red-anchor-sliders with drop-offs in the aggressive parts. This transition here breaks your smooth flow a bit though, so you might want to change it. For example: http://puu.sh/a9uhT/27e5b113f4.jpg rip blanket
  3. 00:58:860 (7) - Minor, but if you rotate this slider a bit to the left, the transition to the following objects will improve imo. http://puu.sh/a9uHF/080b26a844.jpg looks good.
  4. 01:02:553 (6) - This rhythm could be improved. 01:03:014 seems to be a rather emphasized guitar beat, while there isn't really anything important at 01:03:245, so a 1/1-slider would do the job. http://puu.sh/a9tPy/90f1175dc7.jpg gonna have to deny here. in most instances it maeks sense to have an object on that kind of a beat, but here, having a slider end would just make it emphasized less since the player still isn't clicking on the beat. the sharp turn makes it so that the player has to do something on the emphasized part though, which i think is more suitable. having two 1/2 sliders also just makes for object congestion, which isn't great
  5. 01:48:245 (3) - The end really sounds different from the section before, so this could use a NC. true


  • Hard
  1. 00:13:630 (4,5) - Minor, but currently these look like they are supposed to be copy-pasted and flipped versions of each other, which they aren't. It makes them look a bit untidy. should be better now
  2. 00:36:707 (6) - Uhh, in my opinion this slidershape doesn't represent the scream very well (and looks a bit sloppy made in general). I know those multiple-white-anchorpoint sliders are getting common again, but something like this http://puu.sh/a9v4z/299df4c058.jpg would look better and fit the song more. same slider i had in insane actually. i don't know why i made them different like that
  3. 00:50:553 (1) - Hmm, I don't think this rhythm fits here. Since you follow the vocals, and they clearly end at 00:51:014, the slider should go on until this point. http://puu.sh/a9vXW/923dae2277.jpg this will probably make the transition between slow/fast sections easier too
  4. 01:01:630 (1,2,3) - Minor, but the placement of these looks a bit random. The 1/4-sliders clearly belong together, so it would be nice if you created a sort of pattern with them, for example http://puu.sh/a9w5Q/173fc55b6b.jpg - It would also improve the movement here a bit. didn't even notice how stupid those angles were
  5. 01:06:707 (4) - In the Hard diff I wouldn't simplify the rhythm like this. A 3/4-slider, silenced like in the Insane, sounds much better here. You also did that at 01:34:860, so changing it here would make it more consistent. http://puu.sh/a9tYi/ddc3c0dc7e.jpg yeah. i added that 3/4 slider there somewhat recently, so i wasn't thinking about consistency with that earlier part
  6. 01:10:860 (1,2,3) - Those sound a bit too empty compared to the measures before (01:07:168 (1,2,3,4,5) + 01:09:014 (1,2,3,4,5) + the rest of the section) although it is basically the same rhythm, so I'd recommend you to map on all 1/2 beats here for consistency. yus
  7. 01:21:014 (3) - This slider looks a bit random, especially for what it represents in the music. The sound effect would be better represented if most of this slidershape would be a curve, like this http://puu.sh/a9vq9/81e2634588.jpg changed and rotated slightly. the straight-upness doesn't look very good imo
  8. 01:45:014 (3,4) - Is the lower spacing intentional? It looks rather random if you ask me. don't know how that got there. i used the create polygon thing for those o.o
  9. 01:48:245 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Simplifying constant 1/4-beats, where every beat sounds the same, to triplets seems weird and unlogical. Either do it all with 1/4-repeatsliders or decide for something like this http://puu.sh/a9vHS/0d911dde27.jpg to emphasize the end more or something similiar that covers all beats. did the second one.


  • Insane
  1. I'd definitely go with HP8. It would make playing this diff twice as awesome as before. First of all, you also chose pretty high HP-drain settings for the Normal & Hard diff. Secondly, and more important, this is a very aggressive song, so HP8 feels much more appropriate. You might worry about the calm section until the middle of the map, but there is nothing to worry about. You won't fail even when you miss two objects in a row, and you would expect players of this difficulty level not to miss more objects in such a calm section. It just has an awesome effect seeing the HP-bar going down so far and then jumping back up, especially in the calm section. did
  2. Second and probably more personal setting would be AR9. I know that I'm the only one who said this yet, but I want you to view this from a different point of view: In this section 01:21:937 the density of notes is very high. Also, the slider velocity is really high (2 x 1,4 = 2,8), which makes the sliders feel way to fast for AR8,5. Imagine how you would map a 260BPM song; It would probably be like this section. It would have a similiar slider velocity, it would have similiar spacing and similiar rhythm. You might worry now about the calm section again, but in my opinion higher AR doesn't make a calm section less playable ; Instead, it adds much to the atmosphere this section provides. When hearing it, you are getting prepared for the fast part of the song, you sort of really expect it to happen. To summarise it: When I first played this map, I did tons of sliderbreaks in the kiai-section because I didn't expect them to be so fast. When I tested it with AR9, it played all fine. changed to 8.8. the beginning section seems a little too fast at 9 (and i know 8.8 isn't much different but i like it more :3)
  3. 00:13:630 (3,4) - It would be nice to have 1,7x spacing between these as well, it would give this pattern 00:13:629 (3,4,5,6,1) more structure. yes. yes it would
  4. 00:19:168 (1) - If seems strange that you ignored this beat 00:19:629, because that's where the guitar starts to play the constant 1/2-beats. This rhythm would sound better: http://puu.sh/a9wwg/d0bf69fbf2.jpg i must have terrible hearing. the beat is no longer ignored, but i didn't do anything like your screenshot
  5. 00:21:015 (6) - A combo of 10 seems a bit much for a calm section like this. Adding an NC here would be a good solution, especially since your pattern changes here as well (since the head of 00:21:015 (6) breaks the perfect curve 00:20:092 (2,3,4,5)) did these here and the other spot it happens
  6. 00:35:783 (5) - I'd add a NC for the same reason as 00:21:015
  7. 01:01:629 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It might be personal preference, but having these doubles with a relatively high 1/4-spacing in connection with jumps in between them plays a bit less smoothly than your other patterns, if you understand what I mean. To make your diff more accessible for the generic players, you might change these to 1/4-sliders. http://puu.sh/a9wTd/c420e6ff6c.jpg would get confusing with the previous rhythm using 1/4 sliders. i've got it so that all 1/4 sliders are 1/4 distance from the next note, so using doubles here works best. distance spacing between the two patterns was the same so i was hoping it would be easy enough to read
  8. 01:03:015 (7) - SV-changes are likely to be misread when they are not NCd, atleast it's common to NC those. Therefore you should probably NC this object.
  9. 01:06:707 (6) - Same. i thought they were fine, but adding NCs on those doesn't hurt so why not
  10. 01:07:976 (4) - This would definitely play better if you use Ctrl+G, since it would create a more oval movement which works well together with big spacing like this. Also (!minor!) this slidershape could be a bit less regular, since you always used more special slidershapes for these sliders (for example 01:09:822 (3) + 01:15:361 (4)), and something like this http://puu.sh/a9xiQ/39228fa8dd.jpg would just complement the other sliders better. did something completely different here. ctrl+g-ing makes spacing screwed up because flow is... umm... too smooth? i dunno how i would explain it. makes the next suggestion irrelevant tho
  11. 01:08:438 (5,6,7) - Nice idea I suppose, but the angle from (5) to (6) feels a bit overdone if you ask me, so something like this would improve the flow: http://puu.sh/a9xpk/d05ea333b5.jpg
  12. 01:21:014 (3) - The whistle at the end sounds really random and doesn't seem to have a purpose. nobody likes the whistle ;-; it's really there just to be loud and cover up the crappy cut in the song i have there. you could say cut it better, but... there are reasons why that's not possible (there's other cuts in teh song that you probably can't notice, but without the whistle, this one is obvious). anyway i'll get a better hitsound sample to replace it with.

I explained some things in a little wall of text to make it really clear and show all advantages / disadvantages. I hope you don't mind reading through that. of course not :3 If you have any further question about that, ask ingame.
I can't describe how much I love this song and the map tho! Good luck :) ty for the megamod :3
Myxo

pishifat wrote:

  1. 01:35:322 - Umm, I might not get it, but what purpose has this uninherited timing section? The BPM / Offset doesn't change, neither does the metre. for whatever reason, there's a 1/1 bar stuck right in the middle of the song, so the downbeat was off by a white tick after that point without the new timing tick. i've decided to add a new section that just changes the metre to 1/1 for that bar then switches back to 4/4 since it's actually right and it may clear up confusion (or cause more -.-) OMG It's so embarassing that I didn't notice that. I've been looking at this thing for ages, asking myself why it exists. Duh
  2. 01:21:014 (3) - The whistle at the end sounds really random and doesn't seem to have a purpose. nobody likes the whistle ;-; it's really there just to be loud and cover up the crappy cut in the song i have there. you could say cut it better, but... there are reasons why that's not possible (there's other cuts in teh song that you probably can't notice, but without the whistle, this one is obvious). anyway i'll get a better hitsound sample to replace it with. The cut isn't obvious if you don't know it exists. I don't even hear it when just listening to the song without hitobjects
Thanks for the detailed reply :)
Topic Starter
pishifat

Desperate-kun wrote:

The cut isn't obvious if you don't know it exists. I don't even hear it when just listening to the song without hitobjects
i did a good job of faking it then :3 even so, i'd like to have a hitsound there that stands out to transition into the kiai... just don't know what yet :/

also where i said 1/1 i meant 1/4 -.-
Cerulean Veyron
Hi, From my Modding Form. Oh, you modded my formuu :333

[> Normal <]
  1. 00:25:629 (5) - Curve this slider for symmetry with the next curved slider, and a bit of Blanket on the circle (3).
  2. 00:27:476 (2,5) - Bad overlap, or on purpose?
  3. 00:34:860 (2) - Unsharpen this slider, since it's between some soften/curved sliders.
  4. 00:46:860 (5) - This slider is almost under the healthbar. Try moving it somewhere else(not talking about a jump, okay?)
  5. 00:50:553 (3,1,1) - I think stacking like this is sometimes boring, make a triangle formation here.
  6. 00:51:476 (1) - Remove NC, The song track is still the same.
  7. 01:05:322 (4,1) - Same as 00:27:476 (2,5) -
  8. 01:09:937 (4) - , 01:12:706 (5) - Stack?
  9. - Great diff anyway! no suggestions.
[> Hard <]
  1. 00:56:091 (1,2,3,4) - Make a square or diamond formation, also, Curve the slider (4).
  2. 00:58:860 (3) - I suggest to keep this slider curve instead of sharp-curved slider for blanket.
  3. 01:07:399 (2) - Move this circle to x:396|y:304, it's kinda close from the current one, but this will flow a triangle formation.
  4. 01:08:553 (5,5) - Stack?
  5. 01:10:860 (1,2,3,4) - Weird flow here, just move the slider (4) down, for a zig-zag flow.
  6. 01:21:014 (3,2) - A little overlap there.
  7. 01:34:860 (1) - Remove NC, The song track is likely the same.
  8. 01:44:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Nice pattern, but such pure hits like this might tire players. Remove some circles and add at least one or two sliders.
  9. 01:49:629 (4,5,6,7) - Make this as a 1/4 slider, You never did this on the other parts.
  10. - Another great diff! no suggestions..
[> Insane <]
  1. 00:09:015 (2,3) - A jump on start of track? you've made a diamond here, but just make a square instead.
  2. 00:15:015 (6,1,2) - Weird spacing here.
  3. 00:51:476 (1) - Same reason on the previous diff. Remove NC 'cause it's still the same track.
  4. 01:06:707 (1) - ^
  5. 01:07:515 (3,5,6) - Overlap, Make a triangle here like what you did on other parts.
  6. 01:13:976 (7,8) - Likely and overlap, move them away for blanket, and a bit of jump.
  7. - Again~ no suggestion.

I was wondering in this song track's chorus on 01:21:937 -, The Track's BPM changed here, around 260BPM. You can keep the current BPM if you want. This is just my suggestion.
Good Luck!
Topic Starter
pishifat
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Gray Veyron wrote:

Hi, From my Modding Form. Oh, you modded my formuu :333 :3

[> Normal <]
  1. 00:25:629 (5) - Curve this slider for symmetry with the next curved slider, and a bit of Blanket on the circle (3). was supposed to be parallel... but i did something else that fit better :3
  2. 00:27:476 (2,5) - Bad overlap, or on purpose? dsf
  3. 00:34:860 (2) - Unsharpen this slider, since it's between some soften/curved sliders. 00:36:707 (5) - was supposed to be sharp actually
  4. 00:46:860 (5) - This slider is almost under the healthbar. Try moving it somewhere else(not talking about a jump, okay?) moved a little lower
  5. 00:50:553 (3,1,1) - I think stacking like this is sometimes boring, make a triangle formation here. stacking is the best way for emphasis, otherwise it would be the same as the rest of the early section :/
  6. 00:51:476 (1) - Remove NC, The song track is still the same.
  7. 01:05:322 (4,1) - Same as 00:27:476 (2,5) - changed slightly. still a bit of an overlap, but it was supposed to be there :P
  8. 01:09:937 (4) - , 01:12:706 (5) - Stack? uhkay
  9. - Great diff anyway! no suggestions.
[> Hard <]
  1. 00:56:091 (1,2,3,4) - Make a square or diamond formation, also, Curve the slider (4). shape is fine as is imo, but i realized that the previous slider that's a reflection of 4 was curved, so i uncurved it. it's meant to be straight :P
  2. 00:58:860 (3) - I suggest to keep this slider curve instead of sharp-curved slider for blanket. eh
  3. 01:07:399 (2) - Move this circle to x:396|y:304, it's kinda close from the current one, but this will flow a triangle formation. fine imo. not meant to be a triangle really
  4. 01:08:553 (5,5) - Stack? such a large gap that it's not really necessary
  5. 01:10:860 (1,2,3,4) - Weird flow here, just move the slider (4) down, for a zig-zag flow. i thought it was fine, but did that anyway
  6. 01:21:014 (3,2) - A little overlap there. can't exactly do anything about that :P
  7. 01:34:860 (1) - Remove NC, The song track is likely the same. SV change
  8. 01:44:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Nice pattern, but such pure hits like this might tire players. Remove some circles and add at least one or two sliders. supposed to be the exact opposite of 01:42:706 (1,2,3,4) -
  9. 01:49:629 (4,5,6,7) - Make this as a 1/4 slider, You never did this on the other parts. asdf
  10. - Another great diff! no suggestions..
[> Insane <]
  1. 00:09:015 (2,3) - A jump on start of track? you've made a diamond here, but just make a square instead. did...something
  2. 00:15:015 (6,1,2) - Weird spacing here. made 1 further away
  3. 00:51:476 (1) - Same reason on the previous diff. Remove NC 'cause it's still the same track. on an sv change like that? o.o
  4. 01:06:707 (1) - ^ ^
  5. 01:07:515 (3,5,6) - Overlap, Make a triangle here like what you did on other parts. not really that significant. you'll never see it ingame since you're looking more towards 4, which is on the other side of the screen
  6. 01:13:976 (7,8) - Likely and overlap, move them away for blanket, and a bit of jump. wut. they're 1/4 away from each other, so a blanket would be really weird
  7. - Again~ no suggestion.

I was wondering in this song track's chorus on 01:21:937 -, The Track's BPM changed here, around 260BPM. You can keep the current BPM if you want. This is just my suggestion. pretty sure it's teh same bpm. the guitar thing i'm following hasn't changed from the previous section (except that it's louder), so doubling bpm wouldn't make much sense
Good Luck! ty :3
Fuuyu
Sorry for the Late Reply From . . xLoupGarou's Modding Queue


Mod Starts Here
[General]

*Mp3 --> File Link

What I did?
-Audio Boost by 150%
-Changed your audio bitrate from 160 to 192 kbps
-Improved your frequency to 48 kHz

*BG --> Clear

[Normal]
01:48:245 (1,2,3,4) - Suggestion


[Hard]
00:14:553 (5) - Move ( x:368 y:84 )
00:15:476 (1) - Move ( x:208 y:132 )
00:15:937 (2) - Move ( x:112 y:156 )
00:30:245 (1) - Move ( x:256 y:192 )
00:31:630 (3) - Move ( x:352 y:240 )
00:32:091 (4) - Move ( x:220 y:276 )
00:33:014 (5) - Move ( x:156 y:96 )
00:40:399 (5) - Move ( x:410 y:254 )
00:40:860 (6) - Move ( x:316 y:296 )
01:20:553 (2) - Re-Shape . .

Good Luck~
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