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Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Dota is designed better end of story.

There are ways to make more than 20 champions viable and I've already posted a bunch of those ideas here in this thread It's not impossible. Also the beginning of season 4 had the most variety league has ever had since the end of season 2, but they nerfed a bunch of stuff that forced the 20 champions into the scene. Riot forces the meta with their poor balance decisions.

Turning everything equal is the problem with this game as I said in my previous post that your quoted. I never once said that making things equal is the way to go.. Doing that removes any form of niche champions can have. Like the Leblanc rework for example.

Just because you can deal with bad balance doesn't mean it is right. Kinda selfish to say something like that.

Who cares if I talk bad about Riot? Phreak talked so much shit about them back before he started working for them. LOL
[- Alex -]
77 posts
Joined April 2014
[- Alex -]


The new Kharthus spotlight
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
I still don't like how the new Karthus ulti looks. :(
[- Alex -]
77 posts
Joined April 2014
[- Alex -]

Vulf wrote:

I still don't like how the new Karthus ulti looks. :(
Why not? I don't like because riot remove his book. Now he only have one when he ults.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Doesn't look as Ion cannon as his old one and it's hard to see on certain graphic settings.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
HELIOS HYYYPEE

Good to see TSM's synergy showing up. Locodoco op
those
3,135 posts
Joined November 2010
those
wtf 2 void staves
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
Double penetration.
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic

Kanye West wrote:

Double penetration.
twice the fun
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan
The Amsterdam server change made my ping 10 times worse than it was before, and it already was shitty

I used to be on a stable 80ms (but I'd get terrible neverending lag spikes in at least half of my games)

The lowest I've seen now is 92 and it's NEVER stable, the best situation I had was a game where it "only" spiked between 95 and 130

I made a statistic of my last 10 games, in 8 of them I got an "attempting to reconnect" lasting at least 1 minute + ping spiking between 95 and 300

In 1 of them I've only got huge ping spikes

And in the other one my ping only spiked between 95 and 130
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
They are still working on the server, so you should expect things like that. Get worried when they finish job and your ping get worse. For the moment the only thing you could do is to tracert the server and try VPN for better routings :(.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
La Volpe
434 posts
Joined April 2013
La Volpe

Navizel wrote:

Oh god why.
Tekklorn
233 posts
Joined November 2012
Tekklorn

Navizel wrote:

Dat Doublelift
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic

Navizel wrote:

Pff-Hahahaha
[- Alex -]
77 posts
Joined April 2014
[- Alex -]

Navizel wrote:

10/10 GOTY!
32956
32956
Any players that can duo with me? I'm a great mid lanner :)
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan

32956 wrote:

Any players that can duo with me? I'm a great mid lanner :)
inb4 bronze V
winber1
4,519 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1
nothing is better than challenger. bronze is better than nothing. bronze is better than challenger.

he is our savior
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic

Jordan wrote:

32956 wrote:

Any players that can duo with me? I'm a great mid lanner :)
inb4 bronze V
Dont insult a bronz scrub
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika

winber1 wrote:

nothing is better than challenger. bronze is better than nothing. bronze is better than challenger.

he is our savior
impressed
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan


RESPECT THE DONGER

YOU GOTTA GIVE IT RESPECT
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
League makes people fat
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
ADC itemization changes look interesting. BT looks like shit-tier to me now, the new mana item might be the revival of Ezreal and IE looks like the item to go for. 2 Doran's should be enough for the early sustain. BotrK looks strong as a mid- to lategame lifesteal item, especially on champs like Vayne. BT only looks good on safe champs like Caitlyn to me, but we'll see.
Tako
16 posts
Joined July 2010
Tako
IE Rush all the way! Vayne should be really good atm; she will be hurt really bad if a cait gets ie really fast.
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic
Vayne can deal more damage now. Great!!
Tako
16 posts
Joined July 2010
Tako

Sonatora wrote:

Vayne can deal more damage now. Great!!
She was pretty good at it already tbh. She does benefit a lot from the as buffs tho.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Just got done playing with some Rioters on the new summoners rift.
Map is really awesome, but a lot of the champions look freakin disgusting on it especially the very old ones. Need more VU's to come out faster. =\
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika

Vulf wrote:

Just got done playing with some Rioters on the new summoners rift.
Map is really awesome, but a lot of the champions look freakin disgusting on it especially the very old ones. Need more VU's to come out faster. =\
Is it really that bad? I was thinking about getting on today to check it out but I'm not feeling that heal nerf or the new support + ADC items. Grr.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
It just went on the PBE like an hour ago. Not sure when it's coming to the live servers.

The color scheme of the new map doesn't mix very well with the older champions who have brighter colors. The new Karthus fits perfectly, but when you put something like Sion on there it looks terrible. lol
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
lmao sion looks like a homeless man gg
Drowned Crow
84 posts
Joined May 2013
Drowned Crow
xD
Tako
16 posts
Joined July 2010
Tako

Hika wrote:

lmao sion looks like a homeless man gg
He just needs a rework really badly. That champion design is straight up shit atm. Hopes are up for 2014.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Sion rework and VU will be 2014. :)
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
I feel like when he gets his rework, he'll look much more scarier than before.
I'd rather go with noooooooooooo.
Tekklorn
233 posts
Joined November 2012
Tekklorn
Yeah but Sion looks terrible anyways no matter which version of SR he's on xD
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan


My first "perfect game" in ranked lol
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
All I want for patch 4.10 is to see champions that aren't played anymore in competitive scene. Especially champions in bot lane since they changed a lot of things in that lane. A comeback for Sona maybe?
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
Yup, I think poke lanes will be more dominant on 4.10 again. Lifesteal got more expensive and the new support item makes champs like Sona, Lulu and Karma pretty strong.
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic

Vulf wrote:

Just got done playing with some Rioters on the new summoners rift.
Map is really awesome, but a lot of the champions look freakin disgusting on it especially the very old ones. Need more VU's to come out faster. =\
Does it run faster? Any performance or gameplay improvement? What's tge overall feel of the map?
Sapphiire_old_1
1,301 posts
Joined July 2013
Sapphiire_old_1
i havent played this game for like over a month now xD got a burnout , might come back with the new SR
[- Alex -]
77 posts
Joined April 2014
[- Alex -]

SoG Tava wrote:

i havent played this game for like over a month now xD got a burnout , might come back with the new SR
Welcome to League of Legends.

THE DOTA 2 EXPANSION . PAM PAM PAM.
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

SoG Tava wrote:

i havent played this game for like over a month now xD got a burnout , might come back with the new SR
Welcome to League of Legends.

THE DOTA 2 EXPANSION . PAM PAM PAM.
ha-ha-ha

Not that I'm disappointed in this update, but it feels like Riot just changed it for the better

Or at least that's what I think
[- Alex -]
77 posts
Joined April 2014
[- Alex -]

Sonatora wrote:

ha-ha-ha

Not that I'm disappointed in this update, but it feels like Riot just changed it for the better

Or at least that's what I think
Is only a VU they say. The map will play like the old one.
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger

Navizel wrote:

League makes people fat
He bought a basketball, he made it official on tumblr.

Also Lulu seems really strong right now it's crazy like she got ninja buffed or something.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Tekklorn wrote:

Yeah but Sion looks terrible anyways no matter which version of SR he's on xD
True, but my point is bright colored champions do not mix well with the new color scheme of the new map. Even stuff like Yasuo and Vi stand out like a sore thumb. Looks awkward.

They should just go back and dull some colors on some champions.

Sonatora wrote:

Does it run faster? Any performance or gameplay improvement? What's tge overall feel of the map?
FPS seems slightly higher on my end. I've always had 60+.
Old SR with vsync off = 290 -300
New SR with vsync off = 300+

So people with lower end PC's shouldn't lag.


Navizel wrote:

All I want for patch 4.10 is to see champions that aren't played anymore in competitive scene. Especially champions in bot lane since they changed a lot of things in that lane. A comeback for Sona maybe?
Bot will probably seem some changes
Mid will stay the same though I doubt Leblanc will be must pick/ban much in the competitive play. Idk broken mobility going to be broke.
jungle will stay roughly the same
Top will see some changes and will probably go back to doran shield start every game.

Early game sustain nerf hit top lane pretty hard which I'm fine with. Giving almost everyone super sustain early up there was stupid anyways.
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger
They just need to get rid of percent based damage on tanks, it's completely stupid to the point where Shyvana, Reneketon and Jax and main picks for top lane.

Though I don't know much so don't listen to me :>
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
None of those are actual tanks though. Tanky yes but not tanks. True tanks are stuff like Leona, Maokai, Shen and Nautilus.

Bruiser/Fighters whatever people call them now aren't problematic with their percent damage alone. Heck a lot of them would be near unplayable without it (Warwick).

Shyvana, Jax and Renekton are problematic in their own ways.

Does Shyvana need to have innate armor/magic res for free on her passive? No
Will she be viable and still a good pick without it? Yes

Does Jax's counter strike need to do all of what it does? Deal damage, increased damage for how many auto's he blocks, reduce damage (immune to auto's) and CC a target? No
Will Jax still be viable if his counter strike lost a portion of it's damage entirely? Yes

Does Renektons Ult need to deal damage while giving him a bunch of health? No
Will Renekton still be viable and still a good pick without it? Maybe

Bruisers are a problem because of stuff like all that. Just a horribly designed role for any Moba to be honest.

You either deal damage or you tank. You can't have both. This also applies to more dps oriented roles as well.
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
Maybe they need to rework some heroes to be more like dota. Early/mid game damage dealers and late game tanks/supports.

I think Urgot was actually a good champion that got nerfed way too hard.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Urgot is a by-product of Riots "nerf into oblivion and deal with later" garbage they like to do to champions.

I would love for Riot to incorporate some of Dota and even Smites balance philosophies into their game. Smite recently reworked almost every bruiser in the game because just like in league they were tanky and dealt a lot of damage while having a fuck load of unnecessary CC. Their kits were overloaded just like a lot of bruisers in league are. Even after all the nerfs the bruisers are still good except other stuff has windows to actually kill or get away from them if they are fed.

Not only did that make the game healthier, but it brought some of the weaker bruisers back into play because they could actually compete with the others.
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
This game would be boring if it was perfectly balanced.
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
Karma is still a champion oh okay wow
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

BrokenArrow wrote:

This game would be boring if it was perfectly balanced.
Doesn't need to be nor will it ever be. Not an excuse to ignore things and be lazy though.
FluffyTeddy
43 posts
Joined June 2013
FluffyTeddy
i want to say that AHRI IS THA BEST!!!!!! <3 8-)
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Is it me or is Essence Reaver really strong on Jayce with a full stacked Muramana? I just played a game as him and I went 15-2
[Agito]
6 posts
Joined August 2013
[Agito]
Im on EUW
Ign :AgitoPsyren
Tier: Plat V
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika

Navizel wrote:

Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question
wtf people actually buy the former???????????
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
for Nocturne and the likes, yes

and on Twitch too
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
it's just weird when I see people use it though, those two are understandable but some people like to use it on xin and fiora like what
i mean i don't know if it's good to use on them or not but eh
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
Also Lucian.
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Hika wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question
wtf people actually buy the former???????????
I always buy Youmuu's on Riven. She is already really mobile and with Youmuu's she's even more mobile. It also gives a little crit chance, which is nice.
ReVeNg3r
660 posts
Joined August 2010
ReVeNg3r
ordinary day in elo hell
[Agito]
6 posts
Joined August 2013
[Agito]

Navizel wrote:

Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question
Pretty nice on Twitch and Quinn, if youre ahead of course, otherwise I'd prefer LW. Not sure about the other AD carries, just seems to not scale well with alot of them, possible draven? Havent played him much but the movement speed with his w , and attack speed would be nice for him I guess.
[- Alex -]
77 posts
Joined April 2014
[- Alex -]

ReVeNg3r wrote:

ordinary day in elo hell

I know the feel...
Witch Mercy
474 posts
Joined August 2011
Witch Mercy

ReVeNg3r wrote:

ordinary day in elo hell
Lol troll or troll.
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I'm in my promo's to platinum owo. I hope all goes well.
Feast
289 posts
Joined June 2013
Feast
Gl, It's not hard to get, just focus & carry your games :P
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
A few hours ago Riot decided to fuck up during a ranked game.

Surprisingly, the enemy team lagged just as hard as we did and we were always closer to dragon when we did lag so we made a comeback just stealing dragon every time it spawned. The server was too unstable during the game and I was hoping I'd get into my promos, but I ended up with 98LP. Troll. Very much troll.

rito pls
noneed_old
546 posts
Joined April 2010
noneed_old

Hika wrote:

A few hours ago Riot decided to fuck up during a ranked game.

Surprisingly, the enemy team lagged just as hard as we did and we were always closer to dragon when we did lag so we made a comeback just stealing dragon every time it spawned. The server was too unstable during the game and I was hoping I'd get into my promos, but I ended up with 98LP. Troll. Very much troll.

rito pls
tell your team to buy banner of command and win that way.
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna
Why does everyone call Riot, 'Rito'? I see it everywhere. o_O
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Kinda looking forward to patch 4.11
http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com ... h-forecast

Better jungle tank itemization (that will probably be abused by bruisers).
Nerfs to Kayle (gut the shit out of that ulti pls).

My PBE account is ready! :)
Justykanna
1,090 posts
Joined April 2011
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Kinda looking forward to patch 4.11
http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com ... h-forecast

Better jungle tank itemization (that will probably be abused by bruisers).
Nerfs to Kayle (gut the shit out of that ulti pls).

My PBE account is ready! :)
I'm all for it if it means different items for my Maokai. =)
[- Alex -]
77 posts
Joined April 2014
[- Alex -]
I just want to play Maokai ap mid..... To broken.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Pretty sure it said jungle specific item and champion buffs. God forbid they give something like top lane shyvana better tank itemization.

I'm pretty sure they could actually unerf Warmogs since they buffed the crap out of the % damage on bork.
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger
I just hope they don't nerf Yasuo too hard :( Kayle ult can get gutted for all I care she's just fun to play IMO without the ult anyway. But I think they're just looking at just jung tank items and they're trying to stay away from non junglers picking them up from what I read.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Not worried about laners picking them up if they are jungle specific.

Problem is if a tank jungler can benefit from it a bruiser jungler can equally if not abuse it more. This is why SoAG got nerfed to shit.
Which is why I'm really curious on how they are going to approach this because I don't have the slightest idea. xD

There should be a PBE patch later today.
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger
I would love to get on the PBE and see what they do to Yas and Kayle, I main both of them so I'm nervous D:
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West

Vulf wrote:

Not worried about laners picking them up if they are jungle specific.

Problem is if a tank jungler can benefit from it a bruiser jungler can equally if not abuse it more. This is why SoAG got nerfed to shit.
Which is why I'm really curious on how they are going to approach this because I don't have the slightest idea. xD

There should be a PBE patch later today.
Probably by nerfing bruisers to oblivion tbh.
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OMG I DID IT! I'M PLATINUM ASDFGHJKL

Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf

Kanye West wrote:

Probably by nerfing bruisers to oblivion tbh.
In a way that would help at least make them more favorable, but It won't be enough to bring tank junglers back because people would just keep playing Kha'Zix, Elise, and Lee sin over them. I know Lee Sin is a bruiser, but I doubt they will touch him after the shit storm on reddit when they wanted to rework him a few months ago.

Anyways not all bruisers are an issue it's the ones that have overloaded kits in combo with tank junglers having shitty itemization (some with terrible clear speeds) in the jungle. Maokai, Amumu, and Nautilus are more than capable of competing with the more balanced (weaker) bruisers junglers like Warwick, Volibear, and Udyr. Problem is stuff like Vi and Lee do everything a tank jungler wants to do but way better.

Itemization is a good start and hopefully they can make something that isn't favorable on stuff like Vi and Lee because that will just create more problems.
Eren Yaeger
122 posts
Joined September 2013
Eren Yaeger
Hopefully they won't run with the idea of having so many tank stats = % more MS like they were talking about in the comments, that would just make things stupid for champs like lee sin who would just get super tanky and still do damage with something like a last whisper.
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
I read that last night and facepalmed so hard. LOL

In order for something like that to work without being heavily abused by a bruiser it would literally have to give no stats outside of the passive/machete passive.
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic

Vulf wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

Probably by nerfing bruisers to oblivion tbh.
In a way that would help at least make them more favorable, but It won't be enough to bring tank junglers back because people would just keep playing Kha'Zix, Elise, and Lee sin over them. I know Lee Sin is a bruiser, but I doubt they will touch him after the shit storm on reddit when they wanted to rework him a few months ago.

Anyways not all bruisers are an issue it's the ones that have overloaded kits in combo with tank junglers having shitty itemization (some with terrible clear speeds) in the jungle. Maokai, Amumu, and Nautilus are more than capable of competing with the more balanced (weaker) bruisers junglers like Warwick, Volibear, and Udyr. Problem is stuff like Vi and Lee do everything a tank jungler wants to do but way better.

Itemization is a good start and hopefully they can make something that isn't favorable on stuff like Vi and Lee because that will just create more problems.
Nerf Kha'Zix and Lee Sin is a pretty bad idea. Once they got massively nerfed, they are useless. Once they are buffed, they are too OP. An unstable kit. I presume
Vulf
17 posts
Joined November 2009
Vulf
Kha'zix just got nerfed and Lee sin is immune so...
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Oh cool, looks like Maokai got a small buff to his ult in the PBE. His ult is now attached to Maokai. Instead of being cast on an area and sticking there. Now it's following him as he moves around
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
DFG Maokai masterrace
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic
It's Maokai Time!!!

Maokai is love
[- Alex -]
77 posts
Joined April 2014
[- Alex -]
I play Maokai since beta (since season 3-4 actually)

RITO PLS , we need the dream , Maokai ap new meta.

And welcome to hell P r o m i s e s . Gl.
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
But guys, AD Maokai's been OP the whole time...

Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
This is the only way to play Maokai.

Blaziken
611 posts
Joined June 2011
Blaziken
I just bought a GT 630 for price of a video game on the highstreet and now I can max this game. I should of done this sooner... >_>
BrokenArrow
2,237 posts
Joined June 2010
BrokenArrow
I want to get a new graphic card too but then my processor would be too bad and slow everything down and in order to get one I'll need a new mainboard and to get enough power for all that I need a better power adapter but I lack money so fuck everything
am I the only one with this kind of problems ;_;
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi
Im on a CRT 17'
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic

Fabi wrote:

Im on a CRT 17'
CRT are for hipsters

Fight me.
Navizel
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Joined April 2011
Navizel
WTF 2 REKKLES?
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BrokenArrow wrote:

I want to get a new graphic card too but then my processor would be too bad and slow everything down and in order to get one I'll need a new mainboard and to get enough power for all that I need a better power adapter but I lack money so fuck everything
am I the only one with this kind of problems ;_;
I have the exact same problem
TrinitehFoarse
68 posts
Joined February 2014
TrinitehFoarse
FIRST PENTAAAAAAH!
Witch Mercy
474 posts
Joined August 2011
Witch Mercy

BrokenArrow wrote:

I want to get a new graphic card too but then my processor would be too bad and slow everything down and in order to get one I'll need a new mainboard and to get enough power for all that I need a better power adapter but I lack money so fuck everything
am I the only one with this kind of problems ;_;
I had this for problem for like 5 to 6 plus years.
Then I finally manned up and saved up some money from my part time jobs and built my current comp.
Life is good now >w<
AutoMedic
1,166 posts
Joined April 2014
AutoMedic
Hey guys, I'm planning to map Pentakill - Lightbringer once my current project is done
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