That's why I'm so fucking pissed they changed her to begin with. You NEVER picked Leblanc to go into late game. Riot is so damn obsessed with making champions genric versions of each other and useful at all stages of the game it removes any form of interesting niche. Makes the game extremely bland and boring.

If the old Leblanc was still around it would stomp mid laners like Nidalee and Ziggs so hard. Once you hit 6 you can snowball your other lanes and take objectives. The old Leblanc was perfectly viable and fine how she was.

old leblanc Q + R+ W = instant kill

that was the best

PS fuck league of lategame, so boring. I miss the days when M5 would take a tiny advantage and turn it into a 20 minute win. Fuck.

Kanye West wrote:

PS fuck league of lategame, so boring. I miss the days when M5 would take a tiny advantage and turn it into a 20 minute win. Fuck.

Good teams are still capable of doing this.

My longest game was probably 1 hour and an half and it was one of the most bland and excruciating game I have played. Nowadays, an average game is around 40 minutes and by the end of it, you're not even playing for fun anymore, you just want to end it.

http://www.twitch.tv/muegetsen so I'm streaming and whenever I go from champ select to the loading screen I have to re insert league into OBS, anyone know why and if I can fix it?

Kanye West wrote:

PS fuck league of lategame, so boring

more like also turning out to be boring the whole game imo

Kanye West wrote:

PS fuck league of lategame, so boring.

Wouldn't be so bad if Riot didn't homogenize all their champions.
I miss season 1 where you would see these Poppy, Warwick, Mundo and Sions struggling early game because they are trash at that stage just to turn into these beast at the 25 minute mark. Then Warwick and Sion got nerfed because the people playing the early game focused champions couldn't do their jobs.

To be fair, AD Sion is still pretty hilarious in lane because nobody expects that sick amount of lifesteal you get from your ulti

Vulf wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

PS fuck league of lategame, so boring.

Wouldn't be so bad if Riot didn't homogenize all their champions.
I miss season 1 where you would see these Poppy, Warwick, Mundo and Sions struggling early game because they are trash at that stage just to turn into these beast at the 25 minute mark. Then Warwick and Sion got nerfed because the people playing the early game focused champions couldn't do their jobs.

Morello said that as soon as poppy sees competitive play, she's getting nerfed. Oh boy.

Riot's gonna destroy their own game

I read that lol.

Poppy just needs a completely new ulti and passive. You could even buff the rest of her kit to compensate, but her passive and ulti is probably the most broken thing in the game and is a good reason why she is intentionally left where she is.

Frostei wrote:

Riot's gonna destroy their own game

There is time for them to fix things, but I'm not sure with people like Morello on the team. Morello is a big reason why Guild Wars 1 slowly went to shit. If your balance philosophy is to punish good players while making the game easier for the bad ones then you really have no place in the pvp aspect at all. He needs to go design some shitty pvm game because that philosophy is fine there.

Only reason I still play league is because my friends do and even that is starting to dwindle off. I've already moved on to other Moba's like Smite and to a lesser extent dota 2 anyways. LOL

Got 3 afks in my team last game.. I think thats a new reccord for me.

Got 4 few weeks ago, get on my level

La Volpe wrote:

Got 3 afks in my team last game.. I think thats a new reccord for me.

My record is 4 . 2 games , 8 afk. So pls. Let's be friends and say I HATE THIS GAME SOMETIMES.

Vulf wrote:

I read that lol.

Poppy just needs a completely new ulti and passive. You could even buff the rest of her kit to compensate, but her passive and ulti is probably the most broken thing in the game and is a good reason why she is intentionally left where she is.

Frostei wrote:

Riot's gonna destroy their own game

There is time for them to fix things, but I'm not sure with people like Morello on the team. Morello is a big reason why Guild Wars 1 slowly went to shit. If your balance philosophy is to punish good players while making the game easier for the bad ones then you really have no place in the pvp aspect at all. He needs to go design some shitty pvm game because that philosophy is fine there.

Only reason I still play league is because my friends do and even that is starting to dwindle off. I've already moved on to other Moba's like Smite and to a lesser extent dota 2 anyways. LOL

every single post you make


just wait a god damn season and it will be the other way around again. perfect balance wont ever happen,always going to extremes and back. and obviously league is being marketed to the casual/broad spectrum of players,thats why its being made easier.

Nah, Vulf knows his shit.

f i z i k wrote:

every single post you make


just wait a god damn season and it will be the other way around again. perfect balance wont ever happen,always going to extremes and back. and obviously league is being marketed to the casual/broad spectrum of players,thats why its being made easier.

Well, why is dota nearly perfectly balanced then? And a game being marketed to casual players isn't an excuse for bad game balance.

f i z i k wrote:

every single post you make


just wait a god damn season and it will be the other way around again. perfect balance wont ever happen,always going to extremes and back. and obviously league is being marketed to the casual/broad spectrum of players,thats why its being made easier.

Except that I am a game designer while reddit isn't? Kinda offended you would compare to that mess.

You can market a game to casual players without ruining it for the rest of the player base. I mean that's what league has been doing since pre-season 1. LOL. Any veteran player can tell you the balance of the game has progressively gotten worse every season except for season 2 which was actually pretty good. No one is asking for perfect balance, but the choices riot has made lately have been really really stupid.

With all that aside I was recently flown out to Santa Monica and interviewed for a game designer position at Riot. Whether I got the job or not is unknown. Then again it's only been a few days . LOL

"Hey !

RiotVulf here ! I'm fairly new at Riot, but you can already expect some buffs for our beloved Warwick soon enough !"

Jkjk. Best of luck with that :p

Kanye West wrote:

Well, why is dota nearly perfectly balanced then? And a game being marketed to casual players isn't an excuse for bad game balance.

i cant judge dota since i only played like 5 games or whatever there,but from what i know it seems vastly different from how league works in terms of ressources and stuff. also it wasnt an excuse,its a reasoning. riot cares about money,not about players. they make the most money of the casual players who sit in the lower ranks and not from the good players,so its a smart decision to do what is the best for the masses.

Vulf wrote:

Except that I am a game designer while reddit isn't? Kinda offended you would compare to that mess.

You can market a game to casual players without ruining it for the rest of the player base. I mean that's what league has been doing since pre-season 1. LOL. Any veteran player can tell you the balance of the game has progressively gotten worse every season except for season 2 which was actually pretty good. No one is asking for perfect balance, but the choices riot has made lately have been really really stupid.

With all that aside I was recently flown out to Santa Monica and interviewed for a game designer position at Riot. Whether I got the job or not is unknown. Then again it's only been a few days . LOL

How can you take that serious? It's an analogy to all your posts in here. I agree season 2 was the best but it was also almost as unstable as right now? I remember blazing my way into highest ranks with jungle skarner/maokai when I didnt even play them before but couldn't do shit with my best champs. The game has been meta-focused from the very beginning,idk what makes people believe this can be turned into a game where everything is equal? It won't happen,it's literally impossible now that we are this far. It's not like I like everything riot does,but for me it's whatever and I just cope with it. The game isn't bad for me or it feels super unbalanced,I can deal with a game that has a changing meta,that makes something stronger and something weaker at certain times. Obviously I would love for my favourite champions to be OP so I can play them and win but who cares,if you can't adapt you suck. It's just pissing me off people rage at Riot when this is literally always like this,but now there's so many more people in this game that the voice is becoming louder and louder. Also,if whatever you say about getting a job at riot is true,do you really think it is the smartest decision to talk badly about them? As you said,riot game designers dont know their shit so yeah,enjoy working! :^)

Dota is designed better end of story.

There are ways to make more than 20 champions viable and I've already posted a bunch of those ideas here in this thread It's not impossible. Also the beginning of season 4 had the most variety league has ever had since the end of season 2, but they nerfed a bunch of stuff that forced the 20 champions into the scene. Riot forces the meta with their poor balance decisions.

Turning everything equal is the problem with this game as I said in my previous post that your quoted. I never once said that making things equal is the way to go.. Doing that removes any form of niche champions can have. Like the Leblanc rework for example.

Just because you can deal with bad balance doesn't mean it is right. Kinda selfish to say something like that.

Who cares if I talk bad about Riot? Phreak talked so much shit about them back before he started working for them. LOL

The new Kharthus spotlight

I still don't like how the new Karthus ulti looks.

Vulf wrote:

I still don't like how the new Karthus ulti looks.

Why not? I don't like because riot remove his book. Now he only have one when he ults.

Doesn't look as Ion cannon as his old one and it's hard to see on certain graphic settings.

HELIOS HYYYPEE

Good to see TSM's synergy showing up. Locodoco op

wtf 2 void staves

Double penetration.

Kanye West wrote:

Double penetration.

twice the fun

The Amsterdam server change made my ping 10 times worse than it was before, and it already was shitty

I used to be on a stable 80ms (but I'd get terrible neverending lag spikes in at least half of my games)

The lowest I've seen now is 92 and it's NEVER stable, the best situation I had was a game where it "only" spiked between 95 and 130

I made a statistic of my last 10 games, in 8 of them I got an "attempting to reconnect" lasting at least 1 minute + ping spiking between 95 and 300

In 1 of them I've only got huge ping spikes

And in the other one my ping only spiked between 95 and 130

They are still working on the server, so you should expect things like that. Get worried when they finish job and your ping get worse. For the moment the only thing you could do is to tracert the server and try VPN for better routings .

Navizel wrote:

Oh god why.

Navizel wrote:

Dat Doublelift

Navizel wrote:

Pff-Hahahaha

Navizel wrote:

10/10 GOTY!

Any players that can duo with me? I'm a great mid lanner

32956 wrote:

Any players that can duo with me? I'm a great mid lanner

inb4 bronze V

nothing is better than challenger. bronze is better than nothing. bronze is better than challenger.

he is our savior

Jordan wrote:

32956 wrote:

Any players that can duo with me? I'm a great mid lanner

inb4 bronze V

Dont insult a bronz scrub

winber1 wrote:

nothing is better than challenger. bronze is better than nothing. bronze is better than challenger.

he is our savior

impressed

RESPECT THE DONGER

YOU GOTTA GIVE IT RESPECT

ADC itemization changes look interesting. BT looks like shit-tier to me now, the new mana item might be the revival of Ezreal and IE looks like the item to go for. 2 Doran's should be enough for the early sustain. BotrK looks strong as a mid- to lategame lifesteal item, especially on champs like Vayne. BT only looks good on safe champs like Caitlyn to me, but we'll see.

IE Rush all the way! Vayne should be really good atm; she will be hurt really bad if a cait gets ie really fast.

Vayne can deal more damage now. Great!!

Sonatora wrote:

Vayne can deal more damage now. Great!!

She was pretty good at it already tbh. She does benefit a lot from the as buffs tho.

Just got done playing with some Rioters on the new summoners rift.
Map is really awesome, but a lot of the champions look freakin disgusting on it especially the very old ones. Need more VU's to come out faster. =\

Vulf wrote:

Just got done playing with some Rioters on the new summoners rift.
Map is really awesome, but a lot of the champions look freakin disgusting on it especially the very old ones. Need more VU's to come out faster. =\

Is it really that bad? I was thinking about getting on today to check it out but I'm not feeling that heal nerf or the new support + ADC items. Grr.

It just went on the PBE like an hour ago. Not sure when it's coming to the live servers.

The color scheme of the new map doesn't mix very well with the older champions who have brighter colors. The new Karthus fits perfectly, but when you put something like Sion on there it looks terrible. lol

lmao sion looks like a homeless man gg

xD

Hika wrote:

lmao sion looks like a homeless man gg

He just needs a rework really badly. That champion design is straight up shit atm. Hopes are up for 2014.

Sion rework and VU will be 2014.

I feel like when he gets his rework, he'll look much more scarier than before.
I'd rather go with noooooooooooo.

Yeah but Sion looks terrible anyways no matter which version of SR he's on xD

My first "perfect game" in ranked lol

All I want for patch 4.10 is to see champions that aren't played anymore in competitive scene. Especially champions in bot lane since they changed a lot of things in that lane. A comeback for Sona maybe?

Yup, I think poke lanes will be more dominant on 4.10 again. Lifesteal got more expensive and the new support item makes champs like Sona, Lulu and Karma pretty strong.

Vulf wrote:

Just got done playing with some Rioters on the new summoners rift.
Map is really awesome, but a lot of the champions look freakin disgusting on it especially the very old ones. Need more VU's to come out faster. =\

Does it run faster? Any performance or gameplay improvement? What's tge overall feel of the map?

i havent played this game for like over a month now xD got a burnout , might come back with the new SR

SoG Tava wrote:

i havent played this game for like over a month now xD got a burnout , might come back with the new SR

Welcome to League of Legends.

THE DOTA 2 EXPANSION . PAM PAM PAM.

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

SoG Tava wrote:

i havent played this game for like over a month now xD got a burnout , might come back with the new SR

Welcome to League of Legends.

THE DOTA 2 EXPANSION . PAM PAM PAM.

ha-ha-ha

Not that I'm disappointed in this update, but it feels like Riot just changed it for the better

Or at least that's what I think

Sonatora wrote:

ha-ha-ha

Not that I'm disappointed in this update, but it feels like Riot just changed it for the better

Or at least that's what I think

Is only a VU they say. The map will play like the old one.

Navizel wrote:

League makes people fat

He bought a basketball, he made it official on tumblr.

Also Lulu seems really strong right now it's crazy like she got ninja buffed or something.

Tekklorn wrote:

Yeah but Sion looks terrible anyways no matter which version of SR he's on xD

True, but my point is bright colored champions do not mix well with the new color scheme of the new map. Even stuff like Yasuo and Vi stand out like a sore thumb. Looks awkward.

They should just go back and dull some colors on some champions.

Sonatora wrote:

Does it run faster? Any performance or gameplay improvement? What's tge overall feel of the map?

FPS seems slightly higher on my end. I've always had 60+.
Old SR with vsync off = 290 -300
New SR with vsync off = 300+

So people with lower end PC's shouldn't lag.

Navizel wrote:

All I want for patch 4.10 is to see champions that aren't played anymore in competitive scene. Especially champions in bot lane since they changed a lot of things in that lane. A comeback for Sona maybe?

Bot will probably seem some changes
Mid will stay the same though I doubt Leblanc will be must pick/ban much in the competitive play. Idk broken mobility going to be broke.
jungle will stay roughly the same
Top will see some changes and will probably go back to doran shield start every game.

Early game sustain nerf hit top lane pretty hard which I'm fine with. Giving almost everyone super sustain early up there was stupid anyways.

They just need to get rid of percent based damage on tanks, it's completely stupid to the point where Shyvana, Reneketon and Jax and main picks for top lane.

Though I don't know much so don't listen to me :>

None of those are actual tanks though. Tanky yes but not tanks. True tanks are stuff like Leona, Maokai, Shen and Nautilus.

Bruiser/Fighters whatever people call them now aren't problematic with their percent damage alone. Heck a lot of them would be near unplayable without it (Warwick).

Shyvana, Jax and Renekton are problematic in their own ways.

Does Shyvana need to have innate armor/magic res for free on her passive? No
Will she be viable and still a good pick without it? Yes

Does Jax's counter strike need to do all of what it does? Deal damage, increased damage for how many auto's he blocks, reduce damage (immune to auto's) and CC a target? No
Will Jax still be viable if his counter strike lost a portion of it's damage entirely? Yes

Does Renektons Ult need to deal damage while giving him a bunch of health? No
Will Renekton still be viable and still a good pick without it? Maybe

Bruisers are a problem because of stuff like all that. Just a horribly designed role for any Moba to be honest.

You either deal damage or you tank. You can't have both. This also applies to more dps oriented roles as well.

Maybe they need to rework some heroes to be more like dota. Early/mid game damage dealers and late game tanks/supports.

I think Urgot was actually a good champion that got nerfed way too hard.

Urgot is a by-product of Riots "nerf into oblivion and deal with later" garbage they like to do to champions.

I would love for Riot to incorporate some of Dota and even Smites balance philosophies into their game. Smite recently reworked almost every bruiser in the game because just like in league they were tanky and dealt a lot of damage while having a fuck load of unnecessary CC. Their kits were overloaded just like a lot of bruisers in league are. Even after all the nerfs the bruisers are still good except other stuff has windows to actually kill or get away from them if they are fed.

Not only did that make the game healthier, but it brought some of the weaker bruisers back into play because they could actually compete with the others.

This game would be boring if it was perfectly balanced.

Karma is still a champion oh okay wow

BrokenArrow wrote:

This game would be boring if it was perfectly balanced.

Doesn't need to be nor will it ever be. Not an excuse to ignore things and be lazy though.

i want to say that AHRI IS THA BEST!!!!!! <3

Is it me or is Essence Reaver really strong on Jayce with a full stacked Muramana? I just played a game as him and I went 15-2

Im on EUW
Ign :AgitoPsyren
Tier: Plat V

Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question

Navizel wrote:

Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question

wtf people actually buy the former???????????

for Nocturne and the likes, yes

and on Twitch too

it's just weird when I see people use it though, those two are understandable but some people like to use it on xin and fiora like what
i mean i don't know if it's good to use on them or not but eh

Also Lucian.

Hika wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question

wtf people actually buy the former???????????

I always buy Youmuu's on Riven. She is already really mobile and with Youmuu's she's even more mobile. It also gives a little crit chance, which is nice.

Navizel wrote:

Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question

Pretty nice on Twitch and Quinn, if youre ahead of course, otherwise I'd prefer LW. Not sure about the other AD carries, just seems to not scale well with alot of them, possible draven? Havent played him much but the movement speed with his w , and attack speed would be nice for him I guess.

ReVeNg3r wrote:

ordinary day in elo hell

I know the feel...

ReVeNg3r wrote:

ordinary day in elo hell

Lol troll or troll.

I'm in my promo's to platinum owo. I hope all goes well.

Gl, It's not hard to get, just focus & carry your games

A few hours ago Riot decided to fuck up during a ranked game.

Surprisingly, the enemy team lagged just as hard as we did and we were always closer to dragon when we did lag so we made a comeback just stealing dragon every time it spawned. The server was too unstable during the game and I was hoping I'd get into my promos, but I ended up with 98LP. Troll. Very much troll.

rito pls

Hika wrote:

A few hours ago Riot decided to fuck up during a ranked game.

Surprisingly, the enemy team lagged just as hard as we did and we were always closer to dragon when we did lag so we made a comeback just stealing dragon every time it spawned. The server was too unstable during the game and I was hoping I'd get into my promos, but I ended up with 98LP. Troll. Very much troll.

rito pls

tell your team to buy banner of command and win that way.

Why does everyone call Riot, 'Rito'? I see it everywhere. o_O

Kinda looking forward to patch 4.11
http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com ... h-forecast

Better jungle tank itemization (that will probably be abused by bruisers).
Nerfs to Kayle (gut the shit out of that ulti pls).

My PBE account is ready!

Vulf wrote:

Kinda looking forward to patch 4.11
http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com ... h-forecast

Better jungle tank itemization (that will probably be abused by bruisers).
Nerfs to Kayle (gut the shit out of that ulti pls).

My PBE account is ready!

I'm all for it if it means different items for my Maokai. =)

I just want to play Maokai ap mid..... To broken.

Pretty sure it said jungle specific item and champion buffs. God forbid they give something like top lane shyvana better tank itemization.

I'm pretty sure they could actually unerf Warmogs since they buffed the crap out of the % damage on bork.

I just hope they don't nerf Yasuo too hard Kayle ult can get gutted for all I care she's just fun to play IMO without the ult anyway. But I think they're just looking at just jung tank items and they're trying to stay away from non junglers picking them up from what I read.

Not worried about laners picking them up if they are jungle specific.

Problem is if a tank jungler can benefit from it a bruiser jungler can equally if not abuse it more. This is why SoAG got nerfed to shit.
Which is why I'm really curious on how they are going to approach this because I don't have the slightest idea. xD

There should be a PBE patch later today.

I would love to get on the PBE and see what they do to Yas and Kayle, I main both of them so I'm nervous D:

Vulf wrote:

Not worried about laners picking them up if they are jungle specific.

Problem is if a tank jungler can benefit from it a bruiser jungler can equally if not abuse it more. This is why SoAG got nerfed to shit.
Which is why I'm really curious on how they are going to approach this because I don't have the slightest idea. xD

There should be a PBE patch later today.

Probably by nerfing bruisers to oblivion tbh.

OMG I DID IT! I'M PLATINUM ASDFGHJKL