Did someone just say 'Don't focus on accuracy'?? How the hell people want to become good at rhythm if they don't focus on accuracy?
wtf are you even sayingthedamntrain wrote:
Reading AR9.6/10.3 implies you actually read the circles, not just react to them. As for the part about speed, of course you can disagree, but once you hit your wall it'll be the only thing keeping you. You can't have good acc if you can't keep up with the map. Strange I should have to explain this even to a ~150 rank player : ) )Woobowiz wrote:
Gonna have to disagree with everything there buddy....
Also, you can't "learn" DT, it's just the song that's playing faster....there's nothing really to learn besides knowing it plays 1.5x speed.
It's better to just ignore it.... I'm not sure what they are trying to argue and why they are trying to boast (keyword "trying").bewaredrev wrote:
wtf are you even saying
osu! should be renamed to "ADHD/RSI simulator 2014"Rawn wrote:
Did someone just say 'Don't focus on accuracy'?? How the hell people want to become good at rhythm if they don't focus on accuracy?
Someone doesn't understand how ppv2 works.thedamntrain wrote:
Don't focus on accuracy.
DTs play in a very different style than non-DT plays of equivalent difficulty, and they entail different ARs. You absolutely do need to "learn" DT in the same sense that you have to "learn" 0108 maps or Skystar maps or HR. It's a different style of play with different emphasized patterns and a different cadence.Woobowiz wrote:
Also, you can't "learn" DT, it's just the song that's playing faster....there's nothing really to learn besides knowing it plays 1.5x speed.
I don't think it's what he's saying, but I do think it makes a lot of sense, just maybe not the way you're thinking of it. Reading higher ARs has as much to do with accuracy as it does aim.TheVileOne wrote:
I don't think this makes a lot of sense.
Perhaps I should have expressed it this way;NarrillNezzurh wrote:
Someone doesn't understand how ppv2 works.thedamntrain wrote:
Don't focus on accuracy.
thedamntrain wrote:
Perhaps I should have expressed it this way;
Focusing on speed early on is much more beneficial to you in the long run compared to accuracy, because it enables you to play maps that are inherently more difficult while still remaining in your comfort zone, ie. the range of difficulty that you can achieve good accuracies at. Focusing on accuracy and getting near SS scores will give you a faster short-term rank increase, but it's better to just push your limits.
Honestly, if anyone can take advice from you, you'd be the last person to listen to.thedamntrain wrote:
Focusing on speed early on is much more beneficial to you in the long run compared to accuracy, because it enables you to play maps that are inherently more difficult while still remaining in your comfort zone, ie. the range of difficulty that you can achieve good accuracies at. Focusing on accuracy and getting near SS scores will give you a faster short-term rank increase, but it's better to just push your limits.
You can train both at the same time, and you should be training both at the same time. Neither is any more long or short term than the other, but it's far more damaging to you as a player to have lots of speed and no accuracy than lots of accuracy and no speed, because accuracy is the direct result of good technique and reading skills. Lots of speed and no accuracy likely means you lack muscle control.thedamntrain wrote:
Focusing on speed early on is much more beneficial to you in the long run compared to accuracy, because it enables you to play maps that are inherently more difficult while still remaining in your comfort zone, ie. the range of difficulty that you can achieve good accuracies at. Focusing on accuracy and getting near SS scores will give you a faster short-term rank increase, but it's better to just push your limits.
You know I'm all about those jump maps ;Dlitejason wrote:
I think those emphasizing aim/accuracy > speed are hitting the nail on the head. Most people are good at spamming fast songs but lack the accuracy to gain higher PP and play jumpier maps. Those same people cannot read very well either and they mainly rely on speed to get them through songs. If you wanna be a top player I think aim definitely needs to be prioritized over speed. Muscle memory and reading is very important; speed comes naturally when you play more anyways.
Except that most maps will only require short burst of streams, especially DT's. Nobody can stream 280 bpm indefinitely yet some players are able to FC maps of that bpm with very good accuracy. At this point you can say they stream 280 bpm.XGeneral2000 wrote:
As I remember Aqo saying in a thread many moons ago, you can only stream a BPM if you can do it indefinitely - hitting short bursts in maps like NNRT doesn't demonstrate proficiency in any way (I can do that no sweat, but I can barely pass Ascension to Heaven, which means I can't stream 200 BPM).
This is actually a really key point for accuracy that I forgot to mention; accuracy is the glue that holds your hands together. Unless you're a god at snapping, you need at least a modicum of accuracy to be able to do anything remotely jumpy, and great accuracy can allow a player with sub par aim to hit patterns a less accurate player would have missed.litejason wrote:
and play jumpier maps
This is pretty much what I've been trying to explain, but people here seem to assume speed is only the ratio of how fast you can move your fingers up and down. To me it's control and stamina. Aim, or good mouse/pen control lets you snap more comfortably, thus increasing consistency, thus leading to better accuracies. Unless you're playing DT or HR, most modern maps are rather simple to read, and it should be no problem reaching +98% accuracies on the typical OD7/OD8 settings.XGeneral2000 wrote:
I always see people talk about speed like it's its own skill you can train separately from aim, consistency, and accuracy. Am I the only person who thinks this isn't true? I've always seen speed as a "summary stat" of the other skills
meh hr makes things easier to readthedamntrain wrote:
This is pretty much what I've been trying to explain, but people here seem to assume speed is only the ratio of how fast you can move your fingers up and down. To me it's control and stamina. Aim, or good mouse/pen control lets you snap more comfortably, thus increasing consistency, thus leading to better accuracies. Unless you're playing DT or HR, most modern maps are rather simple to read, and it should be no problem reaching +98% accuracies on the typical OD7/OD8 settings.XGeneral2000 wrote:
I always see people talk about speed like it's its own skill you can train separately from aim, consistency, and accuracy. Am I the only person who thinks this isn't true? I've always seen speed as a "summary stat" of the other skills
almost every single player which would play 5 years and at least 3 hours a day will be twice as good as him.usa wrote:
no one can become cokezi.
even if you play 1-6 hours daily for 4-5 years, you can't become cokezi.
just take it easy because once you're here, you're here forever anyways.
Doubtful. He certainly had lots of time to train, but the fact that he was able to accomplish what he did in such a relatively short amount of time and plays is a testament to his natural talent, and even today's top players are still just licking at his heels.Otsutsuki wrote:
almost every single player which would play 5 years and at least 3 hours a day will be twice as good as him.
*unless you are disabled
you have no idea what you're talking aboutOtsutsuki wrote:
almost every single player which would play 5 years and at least 3 hours a day will be twice as good as him.
*unless you are disabled
us low ranked shitters kno a think or 2GoldenWolf wrote:
you have no idea what you're talking aboutOtsutsuki wrote:
almost every single player which would play 5 years and at least 3 hours a day will be twice as good as him.
*unless you are disabled
that was besides the point. 5500~ hours are enough to master almost anything. I see alot of butthurt fanboys here, nobody's born with talent to hit circles better* than others, its just dedication and a hard work.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
Doubtful. He certainly had lots of time to train, but the fact that he was able to accomplish what he did in such a relatively short amount of time and plays is a testament to his natural talent, and even today's top players are still just licking at his heels.Otsutsuki wrote:
almost every single player which would play 5 years and at least 3 hours a day will be twice as good as him.
*unless you are disabled
And how much do you think cookiezi has played? He had over 6k playcounts per month for 3 years straight, that's not even counting his spun-out/offline playsOtsutsuki wrote:
that was besides the point. 5500~ hours are enough to master almost anything. I see alot of butthurt fanboys here, nobody's born with talent to play a video game better than others, its just dedication and a hard work.
wow, thats an injuryWoobowiz wrote:
Small update : I got the flu. It felt like a minor cold a few days ago (2 days ago) but my carelessness probably made it worse.
No playing for a while....
Woobowiz wrote:
Small update : I got the flu. It felt like a minor cold a few days ago (2 days ago) but my carelessness probably made it worse.
No playing for a while....
I sure hope my skill doesn't decrease.vahn10 wrote:
Woobowiz wrote:
Small update : I got the flu. It felt like a minor cold a few days ago (2 days ago) but my carelessness probably made it worse.
No playing for a while....
hope you get well soon.
and I hope that your skill won't get decreased just because of that . Your skills are good enough for a < Rank 10k player.
There's a pretty big difference between 215 PP plays and 120 PP playsEcksDee wrote:
are probably almost better than me
His plays are much, much more consistent than mine.BRBP wrote:
There's a pretty big difference between 215 PP plays and 120 PP playsEcksDee wrote:
are probably almost better than me
Patently false.Otsutsuki wrote:
nobody's born with talent to hit circles better* than others, its just dedication and a hard work.
pff my friend played over 3k a month for 3 months and never had any sort of problems and hes a flimsy little arabian boy. i think it's just coincidence for youWoobowiz wrote:
Don't be so hard on yourself Ecksdee, I'm playing an unnatural amount of times per day. And clearly it's an unhealthy number according to my current health status.
Also, Daily Sick Day FCs, barely had the energy to clear the spinners
He's played 8 hours per day with 11k plays at a little under 3 months? The math sorta checks out, but it's mostly at the fault of my own self-negligence.Bassist Vinyl wrote:
pff my friend played over 3k a month for 3 months and never had any sort of problems and hes a flimsy little arabian boy. i think it's just coincidence for you