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Can hardwork overcome natural talent?

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Bweh
If only you had some way to determine what's talent and measure that to some extent.

You'll only know once you try.
B1rd

Mathsma wrote:

Somewhere here he talks about his eyes - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tOv ... y71yw/edit
omg I play eroge and like takoyaki I am like cookiezi
GoldenWolf
Who?
Omgforz
We should make a ranking based on genetics, so that we can ridicule people with good genetics and low rank.

I don't really see a point of discussion here, except trying to justify yourself for being worse than others.

I'll just leave these 2 responses here.

GoldenWolf wrote:

Those "talented" people I see are only people who play (much) more than other players, play the right maps instead of retrying easy stuff for SS or whatever, and understand themselves what they do wrong and how to fix that asap (And no I don't think the latter qualify as a "talent")
If anything it's a luck factor of finding the right maps to play/practice on, or spending more time to find them than others

It just really irks me when people are saying X is better than them because they have "talent", when in fact they weren't playing/practicing as much/efficent as them

Aqo wrote:

natural talent is an excuse by people who refuse to hard work
Rewben2

GoldenWolf wrote:

Who?
The deaf piano composer god damn it
GoldenWolf

Rewben2 wrote:

The deaf piano composer god damn it
Beethoven? I don't quite think he was alive recently, don't see how he could have played osu!
iWhorse

10crystalmask01 wrote:

XK2238 wrote:

"hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard".
Kevin Durant (A pretty famous Basketball player in team Oklahoma City Thunder if you watch the NBA) said that quote.

This quote makes more sense then the other one, since talent shouldn't be slacking off in the first place.
Reminds me of that story about the rabbit and turtle race. And we all know who won in the end, right?

the goat

aizhid
Cookiezi vs the other top 10 players.

the gap in skill is insane, just on the top of my head :FC atama taisou, HD+HR matzcore, 99.97% 4D, while none of the other top 10 can do as of now.

So, I'd say hardwork is good obviously but can not overcome personality/gene such as confidence, degree of nervousness,finger length etc.
Vuelo Eluko

aizhid wrote:

Cookiezi vs the other top 10 players.

the gap in skill is insane, just on the top of my head :FC atama taisou, HD+HR matzcore, 99.97% 4D, while none of the other top 10 can do as of now.

So, I'd say hardwork is good obviously but can not overcome personality/gene such as confidence, degree of nervousness,finger length etc.
more recent scores here
http://rc.mugzone.me/?lang=en#!player/uid=116&mode=0xs
theLiminator
What was Cookiezi's play count before being banned?
yumether

Rewben2 wrote:

"Natural talent" is only going to get you so far, and that isn't far at all. You are only going to get good from practising and playing, there's a reason that all the top players have been playing for 3+ years.
aizhid

theLiminator wrote:

What was Cookiezi's play count before being banned?

around 100k
meteor22

takaharrue wrote:



Oh no worries, guys. I found it, I guess there is a gene that codes for Osu! skill after all. Wow, that's funny. I should submit my findings to a scientific journal.
xDDDDDDDDD
iderekmc

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

more recent scores here
http://rc.mugzone.me/?lang=en#!player/uid=116&mode=0xs
whats this?? here it says he plays every day
Vuelo Eluko

iderekmc wrote:

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

more recent scores here
http://rc.mugzone.me/?lang=en#!player/uid=116&mode=0xs
whats this?? here it says he plays every day
he plays on that third party client still occasionally, for fun not for competition anymore. Not everyday. Before yesterday he hadn't played in 18 days.

But even with that casual playing he's still setting some scores that noone currently can match.

In fact, just yesterday, he set rank 1's [if he had done it here] on | quite | a | few | songs | [maybe more than those but im too lazy to check every single one]

all hail
nrl
Higher output with less input. That's natural talent.
takaharrue
omg wtf, cookiezi is still playing, LOL. XD
Coffee Hero
more recent scores here
http://rc.mugzone.me/?lang=en#!player/uid=116&mode=0xs

whats this?? here it says he plays every day

he plays on that third party client still occasionally, for fun not for competition anymore. Not everyday. Before yesterday he hadn't played in 18 days.

But even with that casual playing he's still setting some scores that noone currently can match.

In fact, just yesterday, he set rank 1's [if he had done it here] on | quite | a | few | songs | [maybe more than those but im too lazy to check every single one]

all hail
There is 0 proof that that is actually him iirc
nrl

Shirokami- wrote:

There is 0 proof that that is actually him iirc
But really, why wouldn't you be playing on the actual client if you're capable of Cookiezi level play?
Vuelo Eluko

NarrillNezzurh wrote:

Shirokami- wrote:

There is 0 proof that that is actually him iirc
But really, why wouldn't you be playing on the actual client if you're capable of Cookiezi level play?
to keep the legend alive
Rewben2

NarrillNezzurh wrote:

Shirokami- wrote:

There is 0 proof that that is actually him iirc
But really, why wouldn't you be playing on the actual client if you're capable of Cookiezi level play?
Who says they are playing legit? Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqke9kWHX3U is a timewarped score with a namechange.
Topic Starter
NitBean
he plays on that third party client still occasionally, for fun not for competition anymore. Not everyday. Before yesterday he hadn't played in 18 days.

But even with that casual playing he's still setting some scores that noone currently can match.

In fact, just yesterday, he set rank 1's [if he had done it here] on | quite | a | few | songs | [maybe more than those but im too lazy to check every single one]

all hail[/quote]

do you have proof from his twitter? (I can't even find that >.>)
Topic Starter
NitBean
more recent scores here
http://rc.mugzone.me/?lang=en#!player/uid=116&mode=0xs
and how does this site work? rrtyui #83? what? thelewa is #183 and GGBY is #1 (as apposed to #79)

what's going on?
Coffee Hero

NitBean wrote:

more recent scores here
http://rc.mugzone.me/?lang=en#!player/uid=116&mode=0xs
and how does this site work? rrtyui #83? what? thelewa is #183 and GGBY is #1 (as apposed to #79)

what's going on?
It goes by score
Topic Starter
NitBean
[/quote]

It goes by score[/quote]
do they have to upload every single song if they want it to register? I didn't even know this client existed
Coffee Hero

NitBean wrote:

It goes by score
do they have to upload every single song if they want it to register? I didn't even know this client existed
anybody can submit any score of themselves or by others, you can submit everything if you want.
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