Holy shit this map has more diffs than I have pants and gets reranked more often than I chan even change my pants
so yeah removing the Rain diff the spread will improve?? that make no sense, there are 2 diffs in a 4 mins song, with different styles the object density can be different.Seph wrote:
can someone tell me why the ctb spread is bad?
Rain has much note density (810) vs overdose (725), you can take into the account with my map but the difficulty spread was obvious since another diff was harder, but with this one (rain having only 1 break vs overdose having 3) it doesnt really make that much difference with the difficulty since its tiring as hell
Raging Bull wrote:
I like it when people complain and cant give suggestions to improve it.
Priti can you stop with the post spam, and just wait for people who really gonna help here?Priti wrote:
#Wait4dkun2014
I am waiting for dkun because he is the one who will post my mod, we did a huge modding session, he is just finallizing the file and he will post it.Natsu wrote:
Priti can you stop with the post spam, and just wait for people who really gonna help here?Priti wrote:
#Wait4dkun2014
p/2961542 Yuko plz ignore this post is really offensive :/, Is sad how some people bring their HELP
Hope some one come and really help here, without trying to kill mappers style, We are civilized people we should try to solve this peacefully
Natsu wrote:
Priti can you stop with the post spam, and just wait for people who really gonna help here?Priti wrote:
#Wait4dkun2014
p/2961542 Yuko plz ignore this post is really offensive :/, Is sad how some people bring their HELP
Hope some one come and really help here, without trying to kill mappers style, We are civilized people we should try to solve this peacefully
Natsu wrote:
Raging Bull wrote:
I like it when people complain and cant give suggestions to improve it.
thanks for mod, just a bit sad about how long is the mod in the best diff of the set. I'll call the others mappers to check this as well, and thanks again c:dkun wrote:
Normal —
General - Due to this diff being a bit harder than Gero’s Normal, I’d suggest OD +1 For nicer spread scaling and possibly renaming it to Medium | Priti this is called normal and I don't want to put OD5 it will be not balanced with the HP and AR, since I made it with the settings in my mind, the current spread is just fine~
00:36:741 (1,2) - Make a straight line with these sliders | Secretpipe really nazi, but done
00:48:227 (2) - I think this circle should be put on a white tick | Secretpipe well, that don't make sense as you can notice the strong sound is on the red tick, you can see 00:48:227 (2,3,4) - how I was following just the strong sounds in the upbeats
00:58:341 (1) - I think this slider can have a better shape ! For example , check this slider from another mapset : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1454834 | Secretpipe not really necessary I prefer mine
02:02:627 (4,5) - I think the flow is bad here ! Make something ? | Secretpipe Is a linear flow how can be this bad? also you don't bring me a suggestion or an idea how to improve this, also the current way is fine you just have to move the cursor in a curved way
02:12:055 - Maybe add a note after slider number 3 ? | Secretpipe If I map that beat I'll be forced to do a slider,since the 1/4 stream have the same sound, that's why make not sense to map just 1 of the 5 beats there, follow th vocals is the best way there.
Hard —
01:38:455 (2,3) - A triple would sound better here with a 1/1 slider being on the third object http://ayu.s-ul.eu/9gUfl3RU | Ayu you right, but fixed in my way
Insane —
00:03:055 (5) - This circle sounds out of place, since the sound there is barely audible and you haven’t mapped the same sound at 00:03:229 | Ayu I prefer to keep them, since Is how I feel the intro should be mapped, and yes I ignore some of them, but in places were I feel they don't have the same empathize with the others beats
00:05:284 (4,7) - Same goes for these circles, the other objects in the pattern are mapped on a more dominant sound, making these feel completely out of place. | Ayu ^ same, also just to keep this more clear, if you don't play with the rhythms, the map will end in a monotonous way If your map could fit in other songs with the same BPM, then your map is bad.
02:11:884 (4,1) - This stack is hard to read. Maybe hide 4 behind circle number 3? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1454870 | Secretpipe this stack is on purpose, you can notice I used this before too, if you can play the rest of the diff properly you'll not have problems reading this
^ Doing that would make a big jump. I think the antijump is easier and should be kept. - Charles445 and yes, Charless got my point
02:23:027 - Add a circle here for the vocals? | Secretpipe If I do that, I'll lose all the strong feeling of 02:23:370 (1) - and the sv change will not have relevance anymore
already talked with Yue about this, and he agree to remove the parts that are breaks on zero diff, this will fix the object density, since that's the only thing that make the spread look bad, imo.Ephemeral wrote:
just a note, we're not expecting you to apply the vast majority of these mods - we'd like you to apply as many as you feel are applicable. the primary issue that needs to be addressed to get the map fixed is the inclusion of the fixes designed for the ctb diffs and some way of addressing the difficulty spread therein.
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80,208,215884,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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176,144,220512,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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2014-03-26 23:42 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2962625
2014-03-27 00:52 [Yue]: aún tengo más combo
2014-03-27 00:52 [Yue]: que overdose
2014-03-27 00:52 [Yue]: overdose: 952
2014-03-27 00:52 [Yue]: rain: 982
2014-03-27 00:53 Natsu: mm porque es?
2014-03-27 00:53 [Yue]: yo tengo un par de tripletes más por ahí supongo
2014-03-27 00:53 [Yue]: pero meh
2014-03-27 00:53 [Yue]: por 30 de combo
2014-03-27 00:53 [Yue]: ya no creo que
2014-03-27 00:53 [Yue]: se quejen, Seph me dió otra opción de breaks
2014-03-27 00:53 Natsu: mmm hagamos un mod?
2014-03-27 00:54 [Yue]: y si lo hacía como él
2014-03-27 00:54 [Yue]: hubiera tenido aún más combo
2014-03-27 00:54 Natsu: no se de ctb pero se bastante de ritmos D:
2014-03-27 00:54 [Yue]: así que, con esto estará feliz :l
2014-03-27 00:54 [Yue]: lo sé
2014-03-27 00:55 Natsu: 00:04:170 (2,3) - esto deberia de ser un solo slider, el unico hit significativo esta en la linea blanca
2014-03-27 00:55 Natsu: 00:04:512 (4,5) -
2014-03-27 00:55 Natsu: igual ^
2014-03-27 00:55 [Yue]: aunque haga eso un slider
2014-03-27 00:55 [Yue]: igual seguirá siendo el mismo combo
2014-03-27 00:56 [Yue]: en CtB el final y el principio de un slider forma 2 de combo
2014-03-27 00:56 Natsu: es lo mismo en standard
2014-03-27 00:56 [Yue]: y si pongo 2 circles, será igual 2 de combo
2014-03-27 00:56 Natsu: pero el numero de objetos no es el mismo
2014-03-27 00:56 [Yue]: ah, objetos no
2014-03-27 00:56 [Yue]: yo me refería al combo
2014-03-27 00:56 Natsu: yo puedo hacer un slider gigante los tick me daran el mismo combo circulos
2014-03-27 00:56 [Yue]: con lo que te dije hace un rato
2014-03-27 00:56 Natsu: pero solo contara como 1 objeto
2014-03-27 00:57 [Yue]: sí sí, lo sé
2014-03-27 00:57 Natsu: 00:06:570 (2) - por lo menos con este circulo no estas siguiendo nada
2014-03-27 00:57 Natsu: y perdes el enfasis de 00:06:227 (1) -
2014-03-27 00:58 [Yue]: ok
2014-03-27 00:58 Natsu: 00:09:827 (6,8) - igual con estos si ves mi diff y la de zero son slider con los downbeats
2014-03-27 00:59 Natsu: haciendo todos circulos perdes relevancia con 00:10:341 (1,2,3,4) -
2014-03-27 01:01 [Yue]: ok
2014-03-27 01:02 Natsu: 00:39:484 (2,3) - deberia ser un slider siguiend las vvocales como hiciste en 00:39:141 (1) - y 00:40:855 (9) -
2014-03-27 01:02 Natsu: 00:40:341 (6,7) - igual este
2014-03-27 01:03 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1456256 ignora el como estan ubicados en la linea de tiempo deberia de estar asi el slider siguendo la linea de las vocales
2014-03-27 01:04 Natsu: como hiciste aqui 00:45:141 (3) -
2014-03-27 01:04 [Yue]: eso de la foto
2014-03-27 01:04 [Yue]: en qué parte es?
2014-03-27 01:06 Natsu: 00:45:141 (3) -
2014-03-27 01:07 Natsu: 00:59:712 hay alguna regla en ctb q te detenga a mapear esto?
2014-03-27 01:08 [Yue]: nop
2014-03-27 01:08 [Yue]: quieres que lo mapee?
2014-03-27 01:09 Natsu: se me hace raro es el sonido predominante
2014-03-27 01:09 [Yue]: si lo mapeo, habrá más objetos
2014-03-27 01:10 [Yue]: y más combo
2014-03-27 01:10 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1456267
2014-03-27 01:10 [Yue]: y más problemas maybe
2014-03-27 01:10 Natsu: no porque haras un slider ^_^
2014-03-27 01:10 [Yue]: o:
2014-03-27 01:10 [Yue]: un slider largoooooo?
2014-03-27 01:10 [Yue]: prefiero dejarlo como spiner xd
2014-03-27 01:11 Natsu: viste el screen shoot?
2014-03-27 01:11 [Yue]: se55 -
2014-03-27 01:12 [Yue]: me too
2014-03-27 01:13 Natsu: 01:05:712 (9,1) - deberia ser un slider sguiendo la linea predominante de las vocales
2014-03-27 01:14 Natsu: 01:06:570 (1,2) - rtambien aqui un solo slider largo
2014-03-27 01:14 Natsu: 01:07:427 (5,1) - ^
2014-03-27 01:15 Natsu: 01:11:198 (4,1,2,3,4) - mira como zero mapeo esta parte
2014-03-27 01:16 Natsu: 01:21:655 (6,7,8,9,10) - igual mira aqui
2014-03-27 01:27 Natsu: en esa parte tienen razon los modders
2014-03-27 01:27 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1456279 01:21:655
2014-03-27 01:27 Natsu: seguirlas vocales ahi no te parece mejor?
2014-03-27 01:27 Natsu: si haces eso en todos los kiai bajaras el combo sin mover muchas cosas
2014-03-27 01:28 Natsu: 01:21:655 -
2014-03-27 01:28 [Yue]: ok
2014-03-27 01:29 Natsu: cambia solo eso y me decis cuanto te queda debemos ver ideas para resolver sin joder mucho tu diff :p
2014-03-27 01:34 [Yue]: bajo
2014-03-27 01:34 [Yue]: a 968
2014-03-27 01:35 [Yue]: y ya lo cambié aquí 01:21:655 -
2014-03-27 01:35 [Yue]: y
2014-03-27 01:36 [Yue]: 02:43:941 -
2014-03-27 01:36 Natsu: esta abajo de zero ya?
2014-03-27 01:37 [Yue]: nop
2014-03-27 01:37 [Yue]: zero's combo: 952
2014-03-27 01:37 Natsu: empeza el spinner aqui 02:45:312 (5) -
2014-03-27 01:37 Natsu: como hiciste en los demas
2014-03-27 01:37 [Yue]: yui's combo: 968
2014-03-27 01:38 Natsu: eso nos quita otro haha
2014-03-27 01:38 [Yue]: done
2014-03-27 01:39 [Yue]: removi otra cosa también
2014-03-27 01:39 [Yue]: 966 ahora
2014-03-27 01:39 Natsu: si seguislasvocales aqui 00:58:770 (1,2,3,5) -
2014-03-27 01:42 [Yue]: cómo quedaría?
2014-03-27 01:43 Natsu: http://puu.sh/7Lfb8.jpg
2014-03-27 01:44 [Yue]: dónde empieza (1)?
2014-03-27 01:45 Natsu: 00:58:341 (7) -
2014-03-27 01:45 Natsu: tambien movi el spinner para q sea mas adecuado con la musica
2014-03-27 01:46 [Yue]: sí
2014-03-27 01:46 [Yue]: ya está
2014-03-27 01:46 Natsu: como vamos?
2014-03-27 01:46 Natsu: 02:21:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - por consistencia
2014-03-27 01:46 Natsu: hace lo mismo
2014-03-27 01:46 Natsu: y creoq con esos dos ya esta
I don't like being repetitive. It may be true that a Rain is the equivalent of an Insane in standard, but having a jumpy map (vs Overdose with overly long jumps, lesser notes, hence making it harder and explains why its the Extra ctb diff) with only 1 break tires out players (I asked some and that's what they said, tried it myself and personally it was fun but I got tired in the near end) and that makes it no different from an Overdose since it requires much stamina.Natsu wrote:
I did a mod in Yue's Rain, object density is lower than overdose now, not a big gap between the combos, but remember a RAIN diff is an Insane I guess, and an Overdose is an Extra, also in standard mode the difference between that 2 lvls of difficult, the density don't have a big variation, so I hope we can agree with this, since removing more objects will just kill the rhythm, and osu! is supposed to be a rhythm game. Also take in consideration how easy is the Rain compared to Overdose
there is a log with the mod I did in Yue diff (is in spanish if some one need a translation, I can do it)
yeah, since I don't know about placement and shapes in ctb, all I did was improve rhythms, and reduce the density in a stream parts following the vocals instead.Seph wrote:
I don't like being repetitive. It may be true that a Rain is the equivalent of an Insane in standard, but having a jumpy map (vs Overdose with overly long jumps, lesser notes, hence making it harder and explains why its the Extra ctb diff) with only 1 break tires out players (I asked some and that's what they said, tried it myself and personally it was fun but I got tired in the near end) and that makes it no different from an Overdose since it requires much stamina.Natsu wrote:
I did a mod in Yue's Rain, object density is lower than overdose now, not a big gap between the combos, but remember a RAIN diff is an Insane I guess, and an Overdose is an Extra, also in standard mode the difference between that 2 lvls of difficult, the density don't have a big variation, so I hope we can agree with this, since removing more objects will just kill the rhythm, and osu! is supposed to be a rhythm game. Also take in consideration how easy is the Rain compared to Overdose
there is a log with the mod I did in Yue diff (is in spanish if some one need a translation, I can do it)
Though as I told [Yue], the Rain was better (personal opinion) than Overdose as it has better flow, at least for me, and we took quite some time and effort to look at the map since we find it good and [Yue] was pretty much cooperative.
Best of luck on reranking(requalifying?!) this, and advance grats to [Yue].
Can be pretty helpful at these times :pNatsu wrote:
placement and shapes in ctb
I'll try to learn to mod others modes in the future too, now I'm too busy with standard request :3Seph wrote:
Can be pretty helpful at these times :pNatsu wrote:
placement and shapes in ctb
thanks for mod :3dkun wrote:
P A N's Easy —
00:45:998 (2) - Remove clap on head and tail and add it on the tick. | Priti ok
00:47:027 (3) - Add Clap | Priti ok
00:47:370 (4) - Remove Clap | Priti ok
01:33:998 - No claps on this section? It has snares too | Priti I think don't add clap on this part sounds better.
02:02:455 (3) - Clap on Head | Priti ok
02:02:970 (4) - Clap on Tail | Priti ok
02:03:655 (1) - Clap on tick | Priti hm I think it's don't fit
02:45:484 (1) - Seems a bit too long for an easy, end it at 02:48:055 - And then put a break in? (Don’t forget to also map properly from 02:50:798 - If you apply this) | PritiI think it's ok since the player can race to be #1 with many of spinner too.
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Me slap baka rumidkun wrote:
Rumi's Normal —SPOILERGeneral - I honestly feel like you are overusing LNs here like it’s a mania convert lolololololol let me laugh for a while, Why not just use them for long sounds like the voosh on 00:07:598 - After all, this is the original intention of LNs, Using them like standard sliders is just, wrong in my opinion lolololololol | Priti
01:21:827 - I feel like mapping ½ here instead of 1/1 will emphasise the ¼ in the music better without being overkill on a NM | Priti
would better understand what rumia is following here lol 1/4 represent nothing here
but I do have a suggestion here. wat about:
01:20:627 (80627|4) - make this double
01:20:798 (80798|2) - move this to 01:20:970 (80970|2) - and add at 01:20:970 (80970|0) -
I think charting like this would make your thought clearer
01:24:827 (84827|3) - delete(not so audible under 100% playback and for a NM is just fine to chart 01:24:741 (84741|0,84912|6) - only)
03:12:741 - why is there slowdown? it doesn’t fit with 1/4’s - onotoleonide
A clear shift from climax to a relative peaceful section. quite smooth. I don't get the point why this slow down doesn't fit with 1/4
03:59:370 - this part is problematic. why did you use ½ holds in that way? - onotoleonide
lol I think guitar is really, really, really, really audible and clear here
Already aware of un-rank and all what happened. I'll apply my answers here when i return from work (in about 4 hours). Thanks for mod!dkun wrote:
Zero's Overdose —SPOILERYou did a good job with NC’s for most of the map, but sometimes they seem randomly placed. Also, you have some combos that have over 15 fruits but they look like around 10 in editor because sliders count as two fruits. Example: 00:13:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) | Priti i'll check all the diff when i return
Another general thing is that you don’t use curved sliders at all which make the droplets look like you just threw the sliders into the map without much thought into the visuals. | Priti I'm not a fan of curved sliders in ctb, tho i know they can be useful at times. it's just a personal preference.
One last thing, I’d suggest you to use N:C2 for the kiais to be more consistent with the rest of the set. | Priti i'll fix this
#modhelp wrote: