Myke B wrote:
That's not really the same thing. Osu! is capitalizing the first letter (which is typical when talking about a name) and it's only 1 letter being capitalized - not a bunch in the middle of the word. I get how this could bug someone if it's really not suppose to be capitalized, but is it that big of a deal?
GoldenWolf wrote:
It's extremely important.
Don't question, it just is.
Mine wasn't. Everything in the OP is seriously true.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
I felt that all those praising posts were sarcastic, seriously.... And it's sticked now gg
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I'll post any good stuff people send me in my thread. (I'd also be happy to merge my thread with thuis one or vice-versa.)AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
I think there're dozens of things that could be added, tips containing some techniques like mouse grip, hand position. You could even find some various philosophies concerning the topic of how to play better and better.
ok, not even the first person to say box=, didn't even say it twice.ScarletStory wrote:
Much thanks to sarasseo for supplying me with a format that doesn't kill your eyes and marcostudios for explaining how to make boxes that don't look weird.Of course a gigantic thanks to the people who are showing support/supplying constructive criticism it is extremely helpful and very much appreciated.
If you have fun by outranking your friends and enveloping yourself in a competitive environment that's not a wrong reason to play, because you're having fun. What i mean is essentially playing for absolutely no reason other than to get better while having no fun. Of course one could argue that getting better at osu! is what makes it fun in the first place and that's completely fine I have no arguments what-so-ever in someone doing that. The point is you found something that made osu! fun and you worked for it. What I mean about playing for the wrong reasons is more along the lines of not enjoying playing at all to the point where you are doing it without even wanting to. I feel like wanting to improve that bad is a wrong reason to play. Of course, that is subjective, but I think that if you don't love doing something then you just... shouldn't do it, if that makes sense.monomosc wrote:
I've been playing osu! for a little more than a year now, I've never had fun except when I did something better than my friends or myself. Friend ranking is my bible.
Same goes with starcraft2, I don't like the game but tried really hard until I was better than all the people I know personally.
I don't think that is a "wrong reason" to play the game.
hey me too i think it's a bug riot pls fixEkaru wrote:
bewaredrev wrote:
I actually did get an ss on Scarlet Rose on the first day but it was in offline mode in a multiplayer match so the replay didn't save :\
It would be nice if a Person would translate the Thread and post it in the language specific forum.Wishy wrote:
I agree that having this and jesse's thread every other post asking dumb stuff about getting better should be instant locked.
This thread should be translated to every possible language, especially morse code it's very important so the enemy spies won't get it.
ScarletStory wrote:
(the hit error indicator shows up as a little rectangle that appears at the bottom of the screen). Blue is good, green is meh, orange is wtf are you doing?
ScarletStory wrote:
Sure you may be able to get the first one maybe even two but as more squares appear those few milliseconds you lost begin adding up and you begin to lag behind and therefore you either A. begin moving into the 100's and eventually 50's. or B. You start going in circles (literally you begin to make circles with your cursor as you get more confused) I cannot stress the importance of snapping to notes. It is probably the most basic necessity in order to complete jumps.
ScarletStory wrote:
In all seriousness though you move through slider 1 slowly then you have to quickly jump all the way to slider 2 and slow down again in order to match the speed of the slider which is difficult, however if you practice this (AS WELL AS PRACTICING FOLLOWING ALL SLIDERS CORRECTLY 100% THROUGH) it will teach you how to have better control over your pen and it will increase your speed in general because you will be more aware of where your cursors going and what movements you need to make in order to get it there without even needing to think about it.
So much this. Yes.ScarletStory wrote:
Both mice and tablets have their advantages and disadvantages but don't get tricked into believing that either one will require less effort on your part. Let me stress that I'm not in any way trying to talk down tablets mice or mechanical keyboards. What I'm trying to do save you the frustration of getting one thinking you'll be 20 times better only to realize you're still going to need to spend time in order to improve.
People tend to forget how training muscular and nervous systems work. Studying how a human body learns mechanically is very, maybe almost as important as psychological aspects of a self-improvement game such as this.is very true. Knowing how neuromuscular training works is a big help to become good at stuff.
Did this with Big Black. Never been able to clear it since :/bewaredrev wrote:
I actually did get an ss on Scarlet Rose on the first day but it was in offline mode in a multiplayer match so the replay didn't save :\
I thought the thread already pointed it out for you.Hikaru [ NZ ] wrote:
what if impressing others and wanting to improve at the game, is what makes me play more and is what brings me fun? (i also play for the cool songs ^0^)
All?thelewa wrote:
I just read all of this and surprisingly everything is true
i wish i went up 40000k ranks when i bought my tablet- Ethan - wrote:
I was one of those people who thought a tablet would make me "INSTA-BETTER" so I bought one.
It did turn out well in the long run, I am not top 100 or anything but I have gone up about 40000k in ranks, but I now realize it wasn't just because of the tablet lol.
Hello -w-Kahoria wrote:
What about this issue :
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I FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT ! Hi guys !
Here's my question !
HOW CAN I FIX ALL THOSE FARKING SH*T MISS IM DOING ALMOST EVERYMAPS WITH MORE THAN 1K COMBO ?
..ribute
Solution: Stop thinking that what people who have way more experience than you say applies to you as well. HR doesn't make things easier, it only sometimes makes complicated maps easier to read due to AR10, ONLY for those who canKahoria wrote:
What about this issue :
I have easier time reading Scarlet Rose with HD HR than without mods but HR AR is hell to fast for me to play <.<
Also yes i hate AR10 but it was just an example
how did u play foralmost a year if ur account is 3 months old?ScarletStory wrote:
Hi everyone, I've been playing osu! daily for almost a year (8 months)
A lot of osu! Players began playing offline without accountiderekmc wrote:
how did u play foralmost a year if ur account is 3 months old?ScarletStory wrote:
Hi everyone, I've been playing osu! daily for almost a year (8 months)
In our world it give Players with talents for osu!TSC wrote:
A lot of osu! Players began playing offline without account.
That's a huge overstatement, if anything they just created a new account and their excuse for being better than one would expect would be that they played offline.
Ahh this question. I was waiting for it to come up eventually! The account that I started on (which I do not use period) had an "offensive" (if that's even the right word don't ask me I'm not easily offended) name and due to the fact that I had already used a supporter tag to change my name *facedesk* I did indeed have to make a new account. However, please let me stress that I don't in any way try to "trick" anyone into thinking something like "OH MY GOD 4 MONTHS AND YOU GOT AN S ON (insert difficult map here)!?!?" No, that's not me in the slightest. In fact, I said myself that playing solely to impress people was a bad reason to play and I'm no hypocrite. The account is due solely to the fact that my old account name came off as offensive to some people, and therefore, I thought it would probably be in the best interest of others and myself to just drop the account while it was still new and to make another as a means to change my name.iderekmc wrote:
how did u play foralmost a year if ur account is 3 months old?ScarletStory wrote:
Hi everyone, I've been playing osu! daily for almost a year (8 months)
Shouldn't it be The Great Wall of Advice?-Ina- wrote:
The Great Wall of Text !!
Anyways very good thread.
Could you condone that for me?Pettanko wrote:
Damn some of these things hit really close to home.
If I could suggest you add one more reason, it would be something along the lines of "blaming your equipment(or lack thereof)"
I can definitely understand that. Due to lack of a desk, I had to play osu! for a month in much the same setup except for it was in my bed. Not a very fun experience at all. You are condoned sir.NeVe12p4wNeD wrote:
Could you condone that for me?Pettanko wrote:
Damn some of these things hit really close to home.
If I could suggest you add one more reason, it would be something along the lines of "blaming your equipment(or lack thereof)"
It's Guinness World Records Book Hard Cover you know?
ScarletStory wrote:
I can definitely understand that. Due to lack of a desk, I had to play osu! for a month in much the same setup except for it was in my bed. Not a very fun experience at all. You are condoned sir.
You play songs you don't like, like many of usdinopwn wrote:
I try to play a variety of maps but I just can't find songs that I like :/ what to do
Switch to another mode or practice nonstop. What your choice. Currently practicing with Taiko and hopefully trying to get to level 50 on there since I am 50+ on each mode. THAT WAS DEDICATION TO GET BETTER, not complaining in this threadMayoi Hachikuji wrote:
Quite honestly.. After reading this i really just want to quit the game.
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
Sulker wrote:
Switch to another mode or practice nonstop. What your choice. Currently practicing with Taiko and hopefully trying to get to level 50 on there since I am 50+ on each mode. THAT WAS DEDICATION TO GET BETTER, not complaining in this threadMayoi Hachikuji wrote:
Quite honestly.. After reading this i really just want to quit the game.
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
.Well, since the post was too long...(I wanted to add that was sarcasm because I assumed you were talking about your own post) I'll keep this short. Practice(by just playing maps) = increased consistency overall; due to repetition building up muscle memory + general increase in experience. There you go that's probably the best answer I can give as far as consistency is concerned.DLH112 wrote:
I feel like I'm improving and I'm not at the same time. I can read patterns better, and some songs i thought were difficult and fast before seem slow-medium now. overall i hit difficult sections better, but still not consistently. The problem is I always, always have a stupid miss or 2 which ruins my FC (on hard usually) or i have a miss or 2 on insane and the high hp drain kills me. (then i get pissed off and curse internally about how you shouldn't be able to fail a song in a rhthym game while comboing it and stop playing for at least a few hours). Also, sometimes i feel like i play my best my first time playing a song, or even my first time playing a song in a session. consecutive tries of a song seem to have stupid misses much more frequently
TL;DR - everything is improving but my consistency and I don't know how to practice/improve that. combo oriented game + no consistency = no high scores (at least not without hundreds of retries or more)
i dont get it, you're rank 1 denmark, and you have good acc...Mayoi Hachikuji wrote:
Quite honestly.. After reading this i really just want to quit the game.
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
I won't be that in a month or 2. Trust me.Bassist Vinyl wrote:
hei bad habit section
dats mei dont get it, you're rank 1 denmark, and you have good acc...Mayoi Hachikuji wrote:
Quite honestly.. After reading this i really just want to quit the game.
My bad habits are the reason i still play. I might aswell face it.
*I will never be able to keep a constant stream speed when streaming.
*I will never be able to play HR because of EXTREMELY bad acc.
*I will never be able to properly read nomod.
*I will never find a grip that suits me since i always manage to turn my tablet erasing pretty much all existing musclememory.
*I will never be able to attain my #1 in Denmark.
Story of my Osu! life atm. Atleast i can entertain people through streaming by playing fast stuff. Though no Fc'es or good acc's.
Someone coach me T_T
leave the bickering for legitimate bad players
I wouldn't consider it a bad habit as long as you're having fun while using it. If you keep playing really fast songs you can barley pass your accuracy is going to suffer a lot since you're most likely right now just tapping away. If you think you're fine in the accuracy department keep playing but be warned tapping as fast as you can isn't good for accuracy.leyendax69 wrote:
My question is: can the use of no fail be considered a bad habit even though I have noticed a big improvement in singletapping, stream,stamina and aiming due to that?
Overall, a informative thread, most things are very true. Muscle memory is indeed a big thing in this game. I'm probably going to get a tablet, but its pretty obvious it will take time to reach the level I got with mouse.
Thanks for the help. What I meant for barely pass is that I cant finish them without fail, I can get good combos even on lunatic or extra songs with decent accuracy. Mainly because I'm more interested in train my skill than on improve my rank. And yeah I know muscle memory is not the only important thing, just pointing that out because lately I noticed jumps are a lot easier for me. Although that can be because I deactivated windows acceleration (thank god I did it).PinkHusky wrote:
I wouldn't consider it a bad habit as long as you're having fun while using it. If you keep playing really fast songs you can barley pass your accuracy is going to suffer a lot since you're most likely right now just tapping away. If you think you're fine in the accuracy department keep playing but be warned tapping as fast as you can isn't good for accuracy.
Also, it won't take you much time to get used to a tablet. Just find the right area that you feel comfortable playing with and after two days, one week max, you'll be back to what you used to be able to play. Muscle memory is important but osu! is a bunch of reading so since a tablet won't change your thinking you'll be fine.
A very good question. Sadly, the best answer I can give you is a bit ambiguous. To answer the question "can the use of no fail be considered a bad habit", the best answer I could give you is maybe... I say that because of the different situations in which it can be used. Lets say there's two scenario's, A and B. Scenario A is where you are using no fail because you don't understand the map AT ALL i.e. you spend most of your time slamming your fingers around just kinda hoping for the best, you're all over the place and you just generally don't have the slightest clue what's going on or how this particular map is "possible". Scenario B you understand the map but there are a few parts that you don't understand but are trying to learn. You constantly fail at these parts due to say a weird stream, high HP drain rate, or fast sliders followed by fast singles or an array of other possibilities but overall you understand the map and can follow the beat and do well for the most part. I believe that the first scenario, A, would probably be most likely to bring about the bad habit of button mashing/not following the beat correctly but it does depend on the person sometimes facing maps you don't understand head on can work but I've found those experiences to be rare and few in number. On the other hand scenario B is one where I believe that using no-fail is perfectly fine. If there's just one or two parts of the map you cant seem to grasp I don't see the harm in trying to figure them out while at the same time practicing the parts of the map you do understand. That should be perfectly fine. In the end, it just kind of depends on how you are personally using no fail. If you're using no fail and getting 65% or less accuracy you should probably go practice other maps that you are able to do and then come back to that map later, however, if you are getting 85% or higher but just cant seem to pass it due to a few parts I think that using no fail is probably the second best option (next to half-time) in order to figure it out.leyendax69 wrote:
I have been playing for real this game since nov-dec. Started playing insane and now I'm able to pass a good amount of them, but most of time I play with no fail songs I can't or barely pass (freedom dive, or some extra-lunatic difficulty of x song). My question is: can the use of no fail be considered a bad habit even though I have noticed a big improvement in singletapping, stream,stamina and aiming due to that?
Overall, a informative thread, most things are very true. Muscle memory is indeed a big thing in this game. I'm probably going to get a tablet, but its pretty obvious it will take time to reach the level I got with mouse.
That is very helpful, in my case I think is the scenario B. And yes, there is songs where I get 60-65%, I don't retry and comeback a few days later to try it again with a 80+% most of the cases. So your answer clarifies me a little more the things. I really don't know if the difference between mouse and tablet is that huge, but I will see... mainly because I have a cheaper one and is very hard to aim correctly even if I can see the map clearly. Thank you ^.^ScarletStory wrote:
A very good question. Sadly, the best answer I can give you is a bit ambiguous. To answer the question "can the use of no fail be considered a bad habit", the best answer I could give you is maybe... I say that because of the different situations in which it can be used. Lets say there's two scenario's, A and B. Scenario A is where you are using no fail because you don't understand the map AT ALL i.e. you spend most of your time slamming your fingers around just kinda hoping for the best, you're all over the place and you just generally don't have the slightest clue what's going on or how this particular map is "possible". Scenario B you understand the map but there are a few parts that you don't understand but are trying to learn. You constantly fail at these parts due to say a weird stream, high HP drain rate, or fast sliders followed by fast singles or an array of other possibilities but overall you understand the map and can follow the beat and do well for the most part. I believe that the first scenario, A, would probably be most likely to bring about the bad habit of button mashing/not following the beat correctly but it does depend on the person sometimes facing maps you don't understand head on can work but I've found those experiences to be rare and few in number. On the other hand scenario B is one where I believe that using no-fail is perfectly fine. If there's just one or two parts of the map you cant seem to grasp I don't see the harm in trying to figure them out while at the same time practicing the parts of the map you do understand. That should be perfectly fine. In the end, it just kind of depends on how you are personally using no fail. If you're using no fail and getting 65% or less accuracy you should probably go practice other maps that you are able to do and then come back to that map later, however, if you are getting 85% or higher but just cant seem to pass it due to a few parts I think that using no fail is probably the second best option (next to half-time) in order to figure it out.
I agree with you practice is probably the only way to truly get better (if you haven't noticed I basically snuck in ways to practice throughout this entire thread without just saying "practice" by itself) osu! isn't something you can get better at by studying without doing. That would be similar to studying how a pianos pedals work and where the notes are at, then never playing a piano, and then expecting to be a master at it merely because you know how it works. At the same time I feel like it should be a given that my thoughts are not going to be correct for everyone because everyone's different and there are always exceptions. If you can honestly say you play osu! for hours constantly frustrated and using that frustration to improve I can respect that, in fact, if that's true you have the patience of a saint. My only counterargument could be, OKAY so lets say you get really good at osu! and you are now the best player of all times... now what? What's the point in improving if, from what I've gathered from what you said, you're just kinda pissing yourself off (frustrating yourself) for hours. Is it really worth it to spend countless hours you'll never get back only to find out that once you get good it doesn't even matter because you didn't like it in the first place? By the way that's one of my more objective thoughts too.Kurimu wrote:
i just play osu and get better. i get frustrated but my frustration motivates me. i play for hours trying to improve my movement and my rhythm and then hours when im warmed up improving my speed. i dont see why this has to be as complicated as a nuclear reactor to understand. i mean i know people frown on saying "practice and get better" but practice has a lot of very small components which make it easy to understand. practice rhythm, movement and speed. sometimes practicing on lower speeds to ease yourself into higher ones is a good idea. practice noticeable flaws, sometimes feedback from friends is required for this. thats basically all i do and i continue to improve. ezpz.
i however never think i will be a top 500 or so player.. but that is a self confidence unrelated to osu style problem i have to tackle in my personal life. =w=
I have the same problem, you need to press a lot harder the keys making impossible to get an accurate stream at 200+ bpm. The only solution is to get a mechanical one, laptops are not for this game unless you are already pro in this game.Maxcimum wrote:
How about players who play osu! using laptop? Its hard to 'zxzxzx' faster because the laptop key isn't that sensitive than mechanical keyboard like Cherry MX or any good mechanical keyboard..
Having tested a laptop keyboard I can tell it's not THAT awful, might even be easier in some aspect because the keys are flat (speed), altough it's probably worse for long streams, my accuracy doesn't change going from one to the otherleyendax69 wrote:
I have the same problem, you need to press a lot harder the keys making impossible to get an accurate stream at 200+ bpm. The only solution is to get a mechanical one, laptops are not for this game unless you are already pro in this game.
Indeed, is bad for long streams but not just that (at least in my case) I don't find a way where my arm and hand are confortables playing. Totally different to the few times I tried a mechanical kb, but maybe that's just me.GoldenWolf wrote:
Having tested a laptop keyboard I can tell it's not THAT awful, might even be easier in some aspect because the keys are flat (speed), altough it's probably worse for long streams, my accuracy doesn't change going from one to the other
It's not just you man.leyendax69 wrote:
Indeed, is bad for long streams but not just that (at least in my case) I don't find a way where my arm and hand are confortables playing. Totally different to the few times I tried a mechanical kb, but maybe that's just me.
Well since this somehow became about keyboards I guess I'll give this one a shot too lol. Okay laptop keyboards which i had used for roughly 3-4 months until i got my mechanical keyboard are definitely more difficult to stream on. For one on most laptop keyboards they are chiclet style keys or w/e you call them so it's more difficult to get a grip on them. Also they tend to have a much higher actuation force requiring more effort to push down on keys and generally they do make playing more difficult. However i believe that anyone can get respectable playing experience using one. When i switched from my laptop keyboard to cherry mx reds to be honest i noticed no difference in my speed for the first 2 months i used it, in fact, i think i slowed down considerably because the keys are really that sensitive. Honestly i cannot go 5 words without some kind of typo and if you talked to me on osu you would probably wonder if i knew how to use a keyboard for anything other than using two buttons. Back to the matter at hand, in a general sense yes it is more difficult to use the keyboard in a laptop just because of the fact that it requires more force and there is a limit to how fast the keys will pop back up allow you to get another key press in. With that being said, however, in my experience, there was also almost no experience gained for a while after switching between keyboards which is why i say you need to build up skill to use it.Maxcimum wrote:
How about players who play osu! using laptop? Its hard to 'zxzxzx' faster because the laptop key isn't that sensitive than mechanical keyboard like Cherry MX or any good mechanical keyboard..
Go and wash you'r hands with warm water and look that you'r room isn't could or use this kind of gloves.cageslammer wrote:
Starting having problems with my mouse hand freezing, tensing up, shaking.
songs I've had no real problems with are now harder than usual, snapping to notes has proven to be very difficult as well. now i either miscalculate and fall just short of the circle or over-extend.
when i am FINALLY going well my mind go's into overdrive and i start watching unnecessary things trying to watch the TAB score board and my %Hit as well as trying to hit the notes. i end up failing of course
This is all very recent and it's very aggravating.
play slow streamy maps and practice.Kritzkingvoid wrote:
The main big problem for me while playing osu! is that i can't press 2 keys (Z and X) At the same time , its not that i can't press them at all is that i always panic whenever i see a stream or a pile of beats that i lose my control whenever i try to smash 2 button at the same time. the only solution that i can deal with this is just to use 1 button, and its actually very painful to stream with only 1 finger . I was hoping to get some tips to help me with my 1 button smashing syndrome
I use my Index finger
i would totally love a pair of gloves like that regardless of weather it's cold or not, however sadly i don't think it has something to do with the temperature.goresick wrote:
Go and wash you'r hands with warm water and look that you'r room isn't could or use this kind of gloves.
Helped me alot when my hands were frezing. Hope i could help you in any way.
