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Vulf
That's actually really common in gold. People there don't understand that you still need to know how to play the champion for the counter to work for some reason. For example: Picking Renekton into Riven isn't a free win for Renekton if you don't know how to play the champion to begin with.

Talking about this reminded me of something someone back in season one told me. "I pick OP champ and you pick Urgot?". I don't remember what the matchup was, but this guy seemed very confused that he lost against my urgot when it was very clear he didn't know what he was doing at all.
OzzyOzrock
Speaking of Irelia, apparently the PBE notes have a buff planned, where her w (hiten style) has no mana costs. oooOOOooo

But it's only so they can nerf her later on ofc.
Vulf
Trist, Kog and Irelia got changed that way. Kayle has no mana cost on her ult from the last live patch.
At this rate it seems they want to do away with mana or make it irrelevant after a certain point. Which I find retarded.

Most stuff that has severe mana cost like actual dota tier mana cost are in line for pretty much a complete rework (Poppy, Warwick). Other champs mana cost are definitely manageable when compared to the previous mentioned. Mana based champs aren't the problem it's the non resource champs that have no tradeoff for being resourceless.
Jordan
Mana cost is literally the ONLY reason I don't play Poppy
OzzyOzrock
That's why I suck at Malphite and Panth haha. I'm terrible at managing mana at early levels. Though, I really haven't played those champs in a loong time.
f i z i k

Jordan wrote:

wtf with rivens destroying rene LOL is this bronze. Renekton shits on riven, even the worst rene world vs best riven world will win. Your only hope as riven is to get successful ganks early game..
renekton isnt even a counter to riven,its just easy to play for him. riven wins level 2/3,then its a stalemate where both can farm off. riven can kill renek once she gets a bf sword again most likely but this matchup is 90% just farming where it then depends on team comp/player skills who will be more successful later on. however,usually riven is better after midgame
TKiller
Riven with a Doran's blade can deal 546 damage in 4 autoattacks + 3 Q casts level 1 without factoring executioner in.

9/21 Renekton with a Doran's shield can deal 500 or 426 (not empowered) damage in the same time with 4 autoattacks + E.

Add in differences in HP regen, armor, -40 block for Renekton, -24/28/might be even lower block for Riven, different damage from minions.

Both abilities have same cooldown, by the time it goes off Renekton is bound to have 50 fury up and bursts Riven in auto + reset from E.

Even if something as stupid as this trade happened, Riven is not supposed to win and it only goes worse for her later in lane.

Riven winning level 2 is a way too bold claim and level 3 is not supposed to happen.
Vulf
Remember he also has decent sustain at zero cost so even if you damage him he heals it up through health regen and his Q. As i said earlier no one can really straight up beat him in lane except for Jax if he outplays him, but lets be real here thats not something that is easy to come by.

His only real counter is playing something that outscales him while not giving a shit about his damage in lane..
TKiller
His sustain and Riven's laughable hp regen is the reason lvl 3 wouldn't happen.
f i z i k

TKiller wrote:

Riven with a Doran's blade can deal 546 damage in 4 autoattacks + 3 Q casts level 1 without factoring executioner in.

9/21 Renekton with a Doran's shield can deal 500 or 426 (not empowered) damage in the same time with 4 autoattacks + E.

Add in differences in HP regen, armor, -40 block for Renekton, -24/28/might be even lower block for Riven, different damage from minions.

Both abilities have same cooldown, by the time it goes off Renekton is bound to have 50 fury up and bursts Riven in auto + reset from E.

Even if something as stupid as this trade happened, Riven is not supposed to win and it only goes worse for her later in lane.

Riven winning level 2 is a way too bold claim and level 3 is not supposed to happen.
i dont really care about this theorycrafting stuff since it doesnt work like that anyways,but that is all considering both go full retard all-in. with riven you just do q aa q,take his q and autoattack and get your 3rd q off and back off. thats a won trade,consider rivens passive aswell. level 2 is the same when both pop it equal time,you can take shield and take one of his spells and pop another 4 passive stacks after using q again. or you take the stun and just q w q out and you win another trade. this lane is not too hard for riven,you just have to trade without getting retaliated which is pretty easy. once you get bf you can also play the all-in game. the only downside of this matchup is that pushing vs renek level 1 is almost pretty much impossible but yeah,thats all there is to it. i just speak by my experience of 1000 riven games and this is just how it goes

oh and if youre just about those trades not happening i agree,90% is just renek shoving you and once it resets at level 3/4 its a skill matchup again,just a bit easier to play as renek. much like jax vs irelia,60:40
TKiller
Renekton can forcefully retalliate fairly easily. His kit and stats are superior in lane, it's out of question. If renekton is losing lane early to Riven 1v1, odds are, he's doing something wrong.

I can agree that Riven losing lane 1v1 to Renekton is pretty likely to mean that Riven is doing something wrong as well. But Riven is at severe disatvantage here. Renekton can even make mistakes in this matchup, Riven doesn't forgive mistakes anymore.

Picking Renekton into Riven doesn't mean she'll die just by walking up the top lane. But you get all the means to make it so.
OzzyOzrock
Finally got Vel'koz in ARAM.



Went pretty well.
BrokenArrow
Haha that reminds me of that aram game where we got 5 adcs in our team with Cait, Varus and Ezreal and they only got some melee bruisers
I think we destroyed their Nexus after around 10 minutes, they had no chance to even get past their own turrets
If the game had gone any longer I think they would have eventually crushed us though
OzzyOzrock
It makes me kind of mad seeing how crazy people are going over Lulu mid because it is now WIDELY known to work.

Or better put, now that people are playing Lulu mid well, it immediately went from Lulu mid being difficult to win with straight to God tier. I mean, nothing changed between that time, it's just the effect of FOTM. I dunno, that's how games are I suppose.

Hell, before her ratio nerfs and utility scaling, she could two shot a lot of champions late game, and nobody cared then. Makes me wonder what champions will be FOTM next.
Sapphiire_old_1

OzzyOzrock wrote:

It makes me kind of mad seeing how crazy people are going over Lulu mid because it is now WIDELY known to work.

Or better put, now that people are playing Lulu mid well, it immediately went from Lulu mid being difficult to win with straight to God tier. I mean, nothing changed between that time, it's just the effect of FOTM. I dunno, that's how games are I suppose.

Hell, before her ratio nerfs and utility scaling, she could two shot a lot of champions late game, and nobody cared then. Makes me wonder what champions will be FOTM next.
League of Legends in a nutshell
TKiller
Literally everybody cared back then before scaling nerfs.

Soloq was spammed with mid/top Lulu and it was quite obnoxious to play against.
OzzyOzrock
I suppose you're right, just a bit less.

In other news, support Vel'koz void lane. The dream.
SPOILER


And round 2! With more AFK players!



And the one normal game...

Soralicious
i PLay on the Na Sever feel free to add me play some games fun time
lol name is Soralicious
Vulf
Old Lulu was top tier at everything.
tyrael6192
Jordan
I just played a RANKED GAME that got counted as a normal haha. I'm not the only having this "bug" but this annoys the hell out of me since I won and got no lp because NORMAL GAME. Weirdest bug I've ever seen
Guuhan

Jordan wrote:

I just played a RANKED GAME that got counted as a normal haha. I'm not the only having this "bug" but this annoys the hell out of me since I won and got no lp because NORMAL GAME. Weirdest bug I've ever seen
After they added teambuilder, league went crazy :p
Sapphiire_old_1

tyrael6192 wrote:

Jerry with a tommy gun lol'd
Fabi
Finally Challenger!! Forgot to take a screenshoot :(
Sapphiire_old_1

Fabi wrote:

Finally Challenger!! Forgot to take a screenshoot :(

Gratz !! :)
simonpearce
My summoner name is 'ClawMyEyez' and I play on EUW.

I'm not sure what level I am at the moment, I haven't played in quite a while.. I think I might be 22? :P I'm not very good though!
Cyclohexane
I'm a cheeky cunt



I hesitated going sword of the occult to be extra cheeky but that was good enough I think
Blaziken
I freakin' love it when Thresh goes free week. The enemy must feel like utter shit when they get hooked between two minions. Intermediate Ammumu bot taught me the ways.
Kanye West
As usual riot going to destroy another hero into unplayability with the lee sin rework. Honestly game balance would be so much better if they just learned from dota because from a game balance standpoint dota is way better.
Vulf
Those values will not make it to the live servers I can guarantee you that.
Champions like Lee Sin and Elise have kits that pretty much make them impossible to be in line with all the other champions because of the way they are designed. Their kits will always be good. I would like Riot to bring all champions up to that level, but that would require several years of work to complete and you know Riot won't do that.

I think the goal for Lee Sin is to give him more clear weaknesses.
BrokenArrow


Top lane Akali is surprisingly strong, the matchup vs. Olaf went better than expected.
I think it's even easier to carry with her from top lane than mid because it makes it really easy to snowball the other lanes from there once you take down the first turret. In mid this is almost never possible because it gets camped by the jungler a lot so you can barely damage the turret.
Our Cait was a god tho, so I guess we would have won even if Olaf had shat on me.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
Kanye West
90 NA, 140-150 EUW and 200-240 wildly fluctuating ÔCE. Apparently I can play Latin America North and get lower ping than NA.
Nofool
Sapphiire_old_1
It's as I always say:
I have a button that stops a flamer flaming me.
I don't have a button that stops a shit player being shit.


So fucking true
Kanye West

Nofool wrote:

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/esports/esports-event/all-star-2014-heads-paris-france
France 2 good, don't read the first comment tho...
Wow even though we won't vote in allstar teams from each region this time, I still think it's going to be a good tourney. TSM/C9 from NA, SKT T1 K from Korea, probably OMG from china, and I don't even know who's probably going from Europe. Maybe gambit, roccat, CW, SK or even fnatic might come back and beat everyone in playoffs.
Sapphiire_old_1

SoG Tava wrote:

fnatic might come back and beat everyone in playoffs.
I am pretty sure thats whats going to happen
Sapphiire_old_1
Minions OP + support easy gg wp
Nofool

Kanye West wrote:

Wow even though we won't vote in allstar teams from each region this time, I still think it's going to be a good tourney. TSM/C9 from NA, SKT T1 K from Korea, probably OMG from china, and I don't even know who's probably going from Europe. Maybe gambit, roccat, CW, SK or even fnatic might come back and beat everyone in playoffs.
the last year system was a bit funnier to me ;_; why no faker/insec/madlife team pls
Sapphiire_old_1
Man This C9 vs CLG game one of the best lcs game i have seen in a while
Kanye West
It was really fast-paced but CLG and especially nien and doublelift made really bad decisions. Props to meteos for carrying though.
Sapphiire_old_1

Kanye West wrote:

It was really fast-paced but CLG and especially nien and doublelift made really bad decisions. Props to meteos for carrying though.

Yeah that Shyvana ult on lucian was OP xD
Navizel
CLG - get first blood, lose afterwards

edit:


Been sucking on my recent games. Finally had a decent one. Bad cs though since I usually get 300 cs or more in 37min mark.
[ Dalliance ]

Navizel wrote:

CLG - get first blood, lose afterwards

edit:


Been sucking on my recent games. Finally had a decent one. Bad cs though since I usually get 300 cs or more in 37min mark.
That's a lot of farm in that much time IMO, and my friends know me as a heavy farmer and make like Farmville jokes about me. LOL But maybe it's because I'm a jungler.
Cyclohexane
Urgh. The one time when the All-Stars are in France, and I can't go.
[ Dalliance ]

Mr Color wrote:

Urgh. The one time when the All-Stars are in France, and I can't go.
Aw. :c I should ask my French teacher if I could get extra credit for watching it. LOL
Hika

Mr Color wrote:

Urgh. The one time when the All-Stars are in France, and I can't go.
You better find a way to go >:
Sapphiire_old_1
Damn they are in France , thats not far away from where i live
Lights_old_1
New All-Stars format this year is disappointing :/
Sapphiire_old_1

versesx wrote:

New All-Stars format this year is disappointing :/
Aye Rito messes up alot lately
BrokenArrow
Again this shit. Win 6 games in a row, get into promotion and get an afk in the team. EVERY FUCKING TIME I HATE THIS SHIT. WHY ALWAYS WHEN I AM IN MY PROMO?
BrokenArrow
Wow second game already starts like this, interesting



I will probably end up killing myself again, fuck you League of Legends community, fuck you.
Yuuki Asuna

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wow second game already starts like this, interesting



I will probably end up killing myself again, fuck you League of Legends community, fuck you.
All the time.
VoidnOwO
:)
Vulf
Whats the point of team builder if people keep kicking me/dodging for queing up as mid or support Warwick?
Also I swear this thing resets your normal MMR because I'm getting matched with bronze and low silver players. I forgot how mad these guys get LMAO
ylikki

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wow second game already starts like this, interesting



I will probably end up killing myself again, fuck you League of Legends community, fuck you.
I feel you.
Navizel
First time used the Team Builder thingy and it took a while to get a support. Knew it.
Vulf


Matchmaking is very unbalanced at the moment with team builder lol.

My score though. LOL
BrokenArrow
Hmm that's weird because Riot stated that Team Builder will siimply use your normal MMR for Team Builder.
But I guess the system can be abused if someone makes the effort to LoLking every single person to get a perfect team together, right?
[ Dalliance ]
Oh hey. Team builder is out in NA for testing. Time to get off Osu. LOL
Vulf

BrokenArrow wrote:

Hmm that's weird because Riot stated that Team Builder will siimply use your normal MMR for Team Builder.
But I guess the system can be abused if someone makes the effort to LoLking every single person to get a perfect team together, right?
I'm pretty sure that's their intention after beta, but right now it's being treated as a completely new queue type which means it's not going off your normal MMR.
Hika
God dammit I really want to play with the Team Builder but Riot doesn't like fixing firewall errors.
silmarilen
oh team builder? maybe ill finally try the game out again
tyrael6192
Agnes

tyrael6192 wrote:

accurate representation when i'm playing Leona. Cyclone or Love know of this.
Sapphiire_old_1

tyrael6192 wrote:


Hahaha , yes ! Every single time
Ceph23
Isn't this true for every leona player?
Agnes
Nah, there's some Leona players that have common sense on when to not dive under turret.

...I'm just not one of them half of the time.
Sapphiire_old_1

Agnes wrote:

...I'm just not one of them half of the time.
Haha same for me , except i do it all the time :P
makeamove


Yay! And I'm around 90 pts at the moment, but I wanna climb moar.
BrokenArrow


Now that was rather onesided.
Btw what's up with this, I've got lastpick for 6 straight games now, something must be wrong. D:
makeamove
Nevermind, not feeling in the mood to climb any further, I don't really like how I'm always matched with the worse botlane...
Like it doesn't matter if I win mid/top and my other solo laner also wins, if the bot lane feeds, it's kinda over..
Sapphiire_old_1

Snepif wrote:

Nevermind, not feeling in the mood to climb any further, I don't really like how I'm always matched with the worse botlane...
Like it doesn't matter if I win mid/top and my other solo laner also wins, if the bot lane feeds, it's kinda over..

Yeah got the same problem when i play almost every game my botlane get wrecked , i can carry it but not always and that sucks
OzzyOzrock
Then you main support like me and watch as your solo lanes feed instead haha
Vulf
My favorite is when I jungle and my lanes start dying before I get red buff.
Agnes


*deep inhale*

by the way, the Caitlyn got 3 kills early in the invade we attempted. teemo still prevailed.
GeeNX
I have to be a lot afk on LoL due to internet issues :(
Jordan

Vulf wrote:

My favorite is when I jungle and my lanes start dying before I get red buff.
THIS
BrokenArrow


haha fark you too 8D
P r o m i s e s

BrokenArrow wrote:



haha fark you too 8D
HAHA I've had this too last week XD
TKiller
So I be like "Ima get a quick win and get back to doing the economics course project",



But then I be all like "Fuck economics anyway".

Bottom to top

  • Jungler disconnects for the whole early game while top laner is feeding Fiora like she's recovering from anorexy. Kassadin is not banned, not denied and not on our team.

    Fellow goes support Malphite, has some autism attacks leading into lane loss, rest of the team too busy calling him a retard to pay attention to own position in fights. Couldn't clear up shit after losing 1350 gold on Hexdrinker to survive Rumble+LB/Lee top lane tent pitching + Leona on my ass with an oracle.

    Eve 1v5s a few times denying an early finish, after that Wukong knocks up people with no real countermeasure from us, everyone blames everyone else for shit positioning.

    Everyone gets wrecked, I somehow carry us back to even or maybe even slightly ahead, Caitlyn denies me a well earned pentakill in process, I pay no mind to that though, then after we all agree to a top lane push after getting mid inhibitor, Brand forgets what is Vi, Leona and LeBlanc are, dies, we lose baron and 2 more guys in a hopeless attempt to steal, Caitlyn dies in base forgetting what LeBlanc is.

    Malzahar game was just an asylum unleashed.

    And ironically the Quinn win was just as much of a one sided stomp where my role mattered little to none as previous games. We denied bot lane pretty heavily, but I could probably fly around the map killing both golem spawns and we'd still win
I know people like saying stuff that "if you didn't win, you didn't carry enough" that is often pretty bullshit. Some games are destined to be lost or won. I don't pay no mind to mistakes my teammates do during the game other than trying to figure out how to get us out of the shit swamp we're knee-deep in neither I blame them in chat, that's a stupid thing to do. But I'm not gonna try to find a reason for loss in my actions when there was none. I keep track of things I could've done better but if I know that it wouldn't change the end result, I won't place the blame on myself.
Hyroo
Whenever I play as a mid, it's always, always the bot lane that manages to screw something up. The worst Lv30 game that I played consisted of a graves that was going 0/8 at 10 minutes. It was agony for a LeBlanc player like myself ;_;
P r o m i s e s
I played a ranked game today and had server-side lag while having steady 30 ping and not downloading anything. I couldn't do anything in lane for 10 minutes when it finally stopped dc'ing me. I went on going 6-2 though but we lost anyway. Anyway, after they finished I saw that I lost 17 points while the error message in the client said that ranked was disabled and when clicking for more information it said that Loss Forgiven was enabled? :/. Oh well, I don't care much about it anyway.

Edit: I've been in queue for like 57 minutes and I didn't notice I was still in it. It somehow found me a match while the server is offline lol. I was the only one that accepted though xD

Re-edit: Holy shit, 5 servers offline?

Ceph23

TKiller wrote:

I know people like saying stuff that "if you didn't win, you didn't carry enough" that is often pretty bullshit.
Not pretty bullshit, I'd call it complete bullshit. You can't blame a loss because a carry didn't carry. Everybody contributes to a win or a lose. People should accept that.

Also is there really any true carry champs in league? Your supposed "carry" can still get completely insta killed by some dude waiting to rape you in the bushes or something. This isn't DOTA where the single carry can handle pretty much everything.
Vulf
You have people who just don't want to win so you have very little control over the outcome to some games because of that. Honestly telling someone they didn't win because they didn't carry hard enough is kinda BM.
Jordan

Vulf wrote:

You have people who just don't want to win so you have very little control over the outcome to some games because of that. Honestly telling someone they didn't win because they didn't carry hard enough is kinda BM.
This, I hate it when people in my team try to surrend min 20 just because of the enemy's little advantage. I know they're not even gonna try and they'll just let the enemy team widen it
ylikki
Don't you just love it when you're in normal queue and the moment the champion select start 3 guys instalock mid and then call eachother noobs?

Oh the irony.
f i z i k
anyone up to play normals on euw? if theres enough people from here anyways there should be a chatroom too :O
Miyu

Lonach wrote:

Don't you just love it when you're in normal queue and the moment the champion select start 3 guys instalock mid and then call eachother noobs?
Oh the irony.
Its quite common but hey that has always been around on the marvelous world of LoL

f i z i k wrote:

anyone up to play normals on euw? if theres enough people from here anyways there should be a chatroom too :O
I play on EUW but if anyone is up to make an idea for a chat room that would be cool.
Sapphiire_old_1
Yeah i also play on Euw maybe we should make one and just call it osu!
f i z i k
Yea I just joined in,it's called osu! - maybe we can find some people
Jordan
http://www.gosugamers.net/lol/news/2712 ... ng-scandal

http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/society/201 ... 51051.HTML

Holy shit. How did he even survive that jump... I hope he recovers with as less permanent damage as possible. This is sad
BrokenArrow
drama is fun
TKiller
After a tiring 4 minute standoff at last enemy mid turret that lead to absolutely nothing, my team scatters around, so does the enemy. I look at the enemy Gragas up top, at our creeps knocking on enemy inhibitor turret, at 40 minutes ingame timer and pull of a next level bait.

I just fucking go bot and start whacking creeps. Very soon enemy Caitlyn comes and starts "baiting" me. I play dumb and start fighting her, doing heavy damage, soon, but not soon enough here come Riven with ult up and Thresh using his box to keep me away from adc. I get Cait to use barrier and die.

Now these silly fuckers are about to push mid lane, hey, 4v5. But they don't know platinum as I know it. Platinum tier of League ladder is my nemesis, my passionate hate. I understand them better than they understand themselves.

What they actually do: Caitlyn has to recall after being nearly dropped, Gragas is finishing last creeps top before recalling, Riven seeing this goes for those sweet sweet wraiths instead of starting to push mid lane herself. What this leads to is that they don't have time to drop turret and I respawn right before their towerdive move where they are 2 ults and 1 summoner down while our team is lock'n'loaded.

We ace and we end the game with me tanking and two other survivors.

I AM THE TRUE SOLO QUEUE GENIUS.
TKiller
Also Garen skin for twitter follow. Riot promo stuff.
tyrael6192

Jordan wrote:

http://www.gosugamers.net/lol/news/27122-former-ahq-korea-marksman-attempts-suicide-following-matchfixing-scandal

http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/society/201 ... 51051.HTML

Holy shit. How did he even survive that jump... I hope he recovers with as less permanent damage as possible. This is sad
i feel really sorry for the kid, doesn't deserve any of this shit. there are donation funds open for his treatment and he's received a lot of positive attention from people like wickd and montecristo, so with any luck he'll be able to make it
BrokenArrow
New queue order is shit. Complete bullshit. I haven't been last pick more often. I was already in promo for Plat but now I dropped all the fucking way down again because I keep having to go support. Fuck this retarded shit. Might as well commit suicide.
Sapphiire_old_1

BrokenArrow wrote:

Might as well commit suicide.

I don't think this is the right time to say some thing like that :s
BrokenArrow
This is the perfect time to say that.
Also this is getting really out of hand, 14 out of my 20 last games I was either last pick or 4th pick (which is the same on red side). Seriously fuck this.
I'm really pissed at the moment. Not only do I have to bother all this retarded school stuff 12 hours a day which I will never need in my life anyways and then I get home and with the little time I have I straight up lose 5 games in a row because I have to support basically all the time.

Brb watching porn instead. Fuck this game.
Sankaritarina

tyrael6192 wrote:

i feel really sorry for the kid, doesn't deserve any of this shit.
What makes it even sadder is that AHQ Korea was ridiculously talented team and Promise might have been considered a top tier AD carry today if their manager wasn't a douchebag. Everything he worked for got destroyed for nothing.
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