Because she would get randomly nerfed in previous patches, Riot were just nerfing Irelia for the sake of it rather then dealing with the real issues.Justykanna wrote:
I still hear people say that... but why?Ceph23 wrote:
I remeber days where people would go "nerf Irelia!"
I really like her but I can't kill people with her in lane so I gave up on her...
After spamming Renekton last season, nothing worked out for me so I gave up on trying to do well with him. D= I'd take Irelia over him any day.Vulf wrote:
She does well against some matchups but in the long run people would rather just spam Renekton and Shyvana who do well against almost every matchup.
I must've not been paying attention to the patch notes... I don't remember much mention of her since I bought using her.La Volpe wrote:
Because she would get randomly nerfed in previous patches, Riot were just nerfing Irelia for the sake of it rather then dealing with the real issues.
The main point of "nerf irelia" was back in season 2 and it just sticked as a meme. You see the healing you get when W is active? That used to be normal healing when autohitting even with W not active,so basically her sustain got halved. She got nerfed to the ground once before bringing back a bit by buffing base AD and base regen. Man I got so mad back then when I mained Irelia and they did that,I was such a fool lol she was just blatantly overpowered at one pointJustykanna wrote:
After spamming Renekton last season, nothing worked out for me so I gave up on trying to do well with him. D= I'd take Irelia over him any day.Vulf wrote:
She does well against some matchups but in the long run people would rather just spam Renekton and Shyvana who do well against almost every matchup.I must've not been paying attention to the patch notes... I don't remember much mention of her since I bought using her.La Volpe wrote:
Because she would get randomly nerfed in previous patches, Riot were just nerfing Irelia for the sake of it rather then dealing with the real issues.
Well, every Renekton I've faced in the top lane I pretty much destroyed him playing Riven. But it might be because I main Riven for a long time, or I just faced terrible Renektons.Vulf wrote:
Speaking of Renekton I'm quite surprised on how long he has went without any nerfs. Not necessarily saying he is over powered, but he does a lot of things Riot hates which is great sustain at pretty much no cost, builds tanky and does decent damage all while being relatively safe in lane.
They keep nerfing him on PBE, but they get reverted the next patch. I assume they don't have a clue on what to do with him. LOL
They were bad at Renekton. He had everything to shut Riven down long before and now after all the nerfs to Riven he simply decimates her. Doesn't even matter which build path you go, all the items you can buy and build towards on Renekton during laning are good against Riven as well as his skillset.P r o m i s e s wrote:
Well, every Renekton I've faced in the top lane I pretty much destroyed him playing Riven. But it might be because I main Riven for a long time, or I just faced terrible Renektons.Vulf wrote:
Speaking of Renekton I'm quite surprised on how long he has went without any nerfs. Not necessarily saying he is over powered, but he does a lot of things Riot hates which is great sustain at pretty much no cost, builds tanky and does decent damage all while being relatively safe in lane.
They keep nerfing him on PBE, but they get reverted the next patch. I assume they don't have a clue on what to do with him. LOL
I however have seen Renektons in my team who did extremely well in their lane and snowballed super hard, carrying the game.
Those people seem to me like players that take Renekton just because he counters her, and late game he becomes tanky as hell but don't know how to play him. It's gold/silver people I'm playing against, and I don't see why they would do such a thing in that elo.TKiller wrote:
They were bad at Renekton. He had everything to shut Riven down long before and now after all the nerfs to Riven he simply decimates her. Doesn't even matter which build path you go, all the items you can buy and build towards on Renekton during laning are good against Riven as well as his skillset.
Yeah, probably. I got stomped by one today anyway, lol.Vulf wrote:
Definitely a very bad renekton.
renekton isnt even a counter to riven,its just easy to play for him. riven wins level 2/3,then its a stalemate where both can farm off. riven can kill renek once she gets a bf sword again most likely but this matchup is 90% just farming where it then depends on team comp/player skills who will be more successful later on. however,usually riven is better after midgameJordan wrote:
wtf with rivens destroying rene LOL is this bronze. Renekton shits on riven, even the worst rene world vs best riven world will win. Your only hope as riven is to get successful ganks early game..
i dont really care about this theorycrafting stuff since it doesnt work like that anyways,but that is all considering both go full retard all-in. with riven you just do q aa q,take his q and autoattack and get your 3rd q off and back off. thats a won trade,consider rivens passive aswell. level 2 is the same when both pop it equal time,you can take shield and take one of his spells and pop another 4 passive stacks after using q again. or you take the stun and just q w q out and you win another trade. this lane is not too hard for riven,you just have to trade without getting retaliated which is pretty easy. once you get bf you can also play the all-in game. the only downside of this matchup is that pushing vs renek level 1 is almost pretty much impossible but yeah,thats all there is to it. i just speak by my experience of 1000 riven games and this is just how it goesTKiller wrote:
Riven with a Doran's blade can deal 546 damage in 4 autoattacks + 3 Q casts level 1 without factoring executioner in.
9/21 Renekton with a Doran's shield can deal 500 or 426 (not empowered) damage in the same time with 4 autoattacks + E.
Add in differences in HP regen, armor, -40 block for Renekton, -24/28/might be even lower block for Riven, different damage from minions.
Both abilities have same cooldown, by the time it goes off Renekton is bound to have 50 fury up and bursts Riven in auto + reset from E.
Even if something as stupid as this trade happened, Riven is not supposed to win and it only goes worse for her later in lane.
Riven winning level 2 is a way too bold claim and level 3 is not supposed to happen.
League of Legends in a nutshellOzzyOzrock wrote:
It makes me kind of mad seeing how crazy people are going over Lulu mid because it is now WIDELY known to work.
Or better put, now that people are playing Lulu mid well, it immediately went from Lulu mid being difficult to win with straight to God tier. I mean, nothing changed between that time, it's just the effect of FOTM. I dunno, that's how games are I suppose.
Hell, before her ratio nerfs and utility scaling, she could two shot a lot of champions late game, and nobody cared then. Makes me wonder what champions will be FOTM next.
After they added teambuilder, league went crazy :pJordan wrote:
I just played a RANKED GAME that got counted as a normal haha. I'm not the only having this "bug" but this annoys the hell out of me since I won and got no lp because NORMAL GAME. Weirdest bug I've ever seen
Jerry with a tommy gun lol'dtyrael6192 wrote:
Fabi wrote:
Finally Challenger!! Forgot to take a screenshoot
It's as I always say:
I have a button that stops a flamer flaming me.
I don't have a button that stops a shit player being shit.
Wow even though we won't vote in allstar teams from each region this time, I still think it's going to be a good tourney. TSM/C9 from NA, SKT T1 K from Korea, probably OMG from china, and I don't even know who's probably going from Europe. Maybe gambit, roccat, CW, SK or even fnatic might come back and beat everyone in playoffs.Nofool wrote:
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/esports/esports-event/all-star-2014-heads-paris-france
France 2 good, don't read the first comment tho...
I am pretty sure thats whats going to happenSoG Tava wrote:
fnatic might come back and beat everyone in playoffs.
the last year system was a bit funnier to me ;_; why no faker/insec/madlife team plsKanye West wrote:
Wow even though we won't vote in allstar teams from each region this time, I still think it's going to be a good tourney. TSM/C9 from NA, SKT T1 K from Korea, probably OMG from china, and I don't even know who's probably going from Europe. Maybe gambit, roccat, CW, SK or even fnatic might come back and beat everyone in playoffs.
Kanye West wrote:
It was really fast-paced but CLG and especially nien and doublelift made really bad decisions. Props to meteos for carrying though.
That's a lot of farm in that much time IMO, and my friends know me as a heavy farmer and make like Farmville jokes about me. LOL But maybe it's because I'm a jungler.Navizel wrote:
CLG - get first blood, lose afterwards
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Been sucking on my recent games. Finally had a decent one. Bad cs though since I usually get 300 cs or more in 37min mark.
Aw. :c I should ask my French teacher if I could get extra credit for watching it. LOLMr Color wrote:
Urgh. The one time when the All-Stars are in France, and I can't go.
You better find a way to go >:Mr Color wrote:
Urgh. The one time when the All-Stars are in France, and I can't go.
Aye Rito messes up alot latelyversesx wrote:
New All-Stars format this year is disappointing :/
All the time.BrokenArrow wrote:
Wow second game already starts like this, interesting
I will probably end up killing myself again, fuck you League of Legends community, fuck you.
I feel you.BrokenArrow wrote:
Wow second game already starts like this, interesting
I will probably end up killing myself again, fuck you League of Legends community, fuck you.
I'm pretty sure that's their intention after beta, but right now it's being treated as a completely new queue type which means it's not going off your normal MMR.BrokenArrow wrote:
Hmm that's weird because Riot stated that Team Builder will siimply use your normal MMR for Team Builder.
But I guess the system can be abused if someone makes the effort to LoLking every single person to get a perfect team together, right?
tyrael6192 wrote:
Haha same for me , except i do it all the timeAgnes wrote:
...I'm just not one of them half of the time.
Snepif wrote:
Nevermind, not feeling in the mood to climb any further, I don't really like how I'm always matched with the worse botlane...
Like it doesn't matter if I win mid/top and my other solo laner also wins, if the bot lane feeds, it's kinda over..
THISVulf wrote:
My favorite is when I jungle and my lanes start dying before I get red buff.
Not pretty bullshit, I'd call it complete bullshit. You can't blame a loss because a carry didn't carry. Everybody contributes to a win or a lose. People should accept that.TKiller wrote:
I know people like saying stuff that "if you didn't win, you didn't carry enough" that is often pretty bullshit.
This, I hate it when people in my team try to surrend min 20 just because of the enemy's little advantage. I know they're not even gonna try and they'll just let the enemy team widen itVulf wrote:
You have people who just don't want to win so you have very little control over the outcome to some games because of that. Honestly telling someone they didn't win because they didn't carry hard enough is kinda BM.
