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Navizel
Yay, a defense tree nerf. I guess I won't be able to abuse Kayle now.

Ziggs and Kayle free week lelelelelel
Vulf
I actually hope there will be more patches similar to this one in the future.

Stuff got nerfed but it wasn't anything severe. Some decent bug fixes.

Xerath and Skarner got reworked to an almost OP state (been playing them on PBE). A lot of people are complaining that the reworks were huge nerfs, but they will eat those words in a couple of weeks I guarantee it.
Kanye West
YES SKARNER IS BACK BABY
Fakiezi
Soraka top OP.
BrokenArrow
YAY KAYLE NERF
As an assassin focused mid player this is great

EDIT: Wow I didn't skip a division, must be because of the new patch.
OR YOU GUYS JUST CURSED ME. IN THAT CASE, FUCK YOU.
f i z i k

3-0 the dream,time to play osu again
Sapphiire_old_1

Makojita wrote:

Soraka top OP.

Kanye West wrote:

YES SKARNER IS BACK BABY
i dont think so in my eyes skarner wont be better then pre rework i think its even worse
J V

kT fizik wrote:


3-0 the dream,time to play osu again
i secretly cry in my corner
VoidnOwO
Our support Kayle started with doran's ring and rushed lucidity boots. After this he bought a Nashor's.
And then three more Nashor's
Finished the build with a deathcap
Got a penta.


this guy...
TKiller
Is that plat?
Ceph23

BRBP wrote:

Our support Kayle started with doran's ring and rushed lucidity boots. After this he bought a Nashor's.
And then three more Nashor's
Finished the build with a deathcap
Got a penta.


this guy...
This guy probably has a nashor's tooth fetish.
can't blame him. Nashor's tooth sexy.
Vulf

SoG Tava wrote:

i dont think so in my eyes skarner wont be better then pre rework i think its even worse
Even if the rework ends up making him too weak they can actually adjust his numbers properly because the elements that kept Riot from doing this in the first place are removed. Not all reworks are supposed to be buffs. They are often times done to remove unfun mechanics that can be a problem later down the road. Stuff coming into play because nerf cycles etc. Refer to my post about Karma on the previous page for more about this.

Pretty much every champion that is scheduled for a rework this year are in the same boat Skarner was in.

Kassadin
Rengar
Poppy
Warwick
Shaco
Alistar
Yorick
Urgot
Gangplank

Every single one of the above champions have straight up anti-fun mechanics in their kit that make them terrible to play against. Nerfing them to oblivion is not how you solve the problem, which is how Riot dealt with it in the past. Why do you think Kassadin is still how he is? They really don't want to do this to champions anymore.

I'm honestly thinking about making a blog to do a kit by kit analysis on the above champions and a few I personally think need to be remade to clear up some confusion people (league forum mostly) seem to have on reworks and why they need to happen. Just another little project to do since I am studying to be a game designer and all (graduate in May).
Sapphiire_old_1
:?

BRBP wrote:

Our support Kayle started with doran's ring and rushed lucidity boots. After this he bought a Nashor's.
And then three more Nashor's
Finished the build with a deathcap
Got a penta.


this guy...
well it seems to work for him
JesusYamato
I've quit the game, selling all my accounts (NA was plat4 before s3 reset and EUW was D3 MMR/D4 before reset, havent played ranked at all in season 4)
I have 20 runes pages, 80 skins, all champs on the EUW one (and also 5000 games). If you're interested or know people who would be interested pm me.
BrokenArrow


Our Twitch got 2 pentas lmao
Blaziken


Irelia jungle is like Kha jungle. Sustaining in it is a tiny bit difficult but I think it's good, we might of actually won if Jax did damage.
Sapphiire_old_1
so what are your toughts about the new xerath ?

his ult is range is higher then zigs ult like wtf , the ult animation is decent its like pew pew but xerath needs more of kaboum kaboum

he can now be scary without his ult thats a good change

overall i think they did a good job , but maybe they got a bit to ham on his range
Geo
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Sapphiire_old_1

G e o wrote:

I find Xerath Kinda broken right now, he is like a Ziggs but with less mobility and highter dps.

his kit and dps is not broken its just his range just look at this :




Vulf
New Xerath is really strong. Need to play/play against it more before I say it's OP, but he is definitely really strong.

It was a good rework. The rioter that was a large part of his rework is working on Warwick right now. :)
Sapphiire_old_1

Vulf wrote:

New Xerath is really strong. Need to play/play against it more before I say it's OP, but he is definitely really strong.

It was a good rework. The rioter that was a large part of his rework is working on Warwick right now. :)

are you happy that they gonna rework ww ? i think he is fine how he is now what if they mess up then you are screwed cause ww is your main right
VoidnOwO

SoG Tava wrote:

range
At lv. 3 it does 300 + 0.43AP (900 + 1.29AP) at 5600 range
Requires vision, or at least you need to know where your target is.
Most likely won't hit more than 1-2 people per shot.
Can be interrupted after first shot.
1-2 of the shots are relatively easy to dodge, even more so with zed W etc.

Meanwhile Karthus ult is 550 + 0.6AP, global
Don't need vision
Hits all 5 if we don't count spellshields and zhonya's and shit.
Can be used after dieing.

Sure the new Xerath ult is good, but I don't find it broken or OP at all.
Taking red buff with his ult alone doesn't even work in a real game.
Sapphiire_old_1

SoG Tava wrote:

Taking red buff with his ult alone doesn't even work in a real game.
why?
Vulf

SoG Tava wrote:

are you happy that they gonna rework ww ? i think he is fine how he is now what if they mess up then you are screwed cause ww is your main right
He is not fine. His entire kit is stupid to play against when he is strong. Basically his entire kit is very unhealthy for the game.
His rework is not going to be a buff. As long as they remove the stupid mechanics from his kit he can be balanced accordingly and as a Warwick main for almost 4 years I am completely fine with that.

Warwick as of right now can never be buffed and the only way Riot can deal with him when he gets too strong is to nerf him into unviability. This is not how you balance things.

Something being viable does not necessarily mean it will be healthy for the game. A lot of the older champions have this issue hence why they are getting reworks. A rework isn't always done to make a champion stronger.
Sapphiire_old_1

SoG Tava wrote:

A rework isn't always done to make a champion stronger.
i know a rioter said that a rework isent meant to buff ore nerf its to add more counterplay ect
VoidnOwO
:oops:
Sapphiire_old_1

SoG Tava wrote:

In a real game it's constantly killed and it's max hp will grow. At 25 minutes it has over 3000 hp, you will never hit that much.
In the bot game you linked it still had the 1500 hp it has when it spawns for the first time.
well makes sense



ahhahahaah OMG :)
Vulf

SoG Tava wrote:

SoG Tava wrote:

A rework isn't always done to make a champion stronger.
i know a rioter said that a rework isent meant to buff ore nerf its to add more counterplay ect
Exactly and he is correct. Not saying that all reworks are done because of this, because they aren't.
There are different levels to a rework. Warwick falls into the lack of counterplay (not saying it doesn't exist) and unfun to play against and potentially to play as category. He is very binary. He is also outdated too. He needs a relaunch seeing as his model and default splash are terrible.
Sapphiire_old_1


Flying Spaghetti Monster Vel'Koz Hype ! \(*T▽T*)/
Kanye West
Koreans are playing in 5 minutes, even more hype yo
Sapphiire_old_1

Kanye West wrote:

Koreans are playing in 5 minutes, even more hype yo

Holy Shit thanks for saying that i totaly forgot about that \(>o<)ノ
Sapphiire_old_1
Man those Koreans are realy good at making intro's ლ(́◉◞౪◟◉‵ლ)
Geo
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Hika

G e o wrote:

0/6 MadLife, how is that possible :(
mfw i stayed up for this
Sapphiire_old_1
Honestly i am surprised that stealths won i thought Frost would win 0-2 oh well it makes it intresting
MrBakpao
why this game very famous? in my country we never heard a league of legends before~
Sapphiire_old_1
I think its popular because its extremely challenging, and ever-changing. Every match is different, and forces the person playing to adapt and change their strategies based on character choices, skill of team mates and opponents, etc. You have to earn every step you take, and that is not only engaging but extremely satisfying; its something you dont see online now-a-days, where most MMO games hand you items and levels by the heaps for running around.

Another big selling point is the fact that there are tons and tons of characters to choose from, all of which are very different from one another. And even so, the same character might have different builds or strategies, again based on players and skills. It leads to a nearly endless combination of ways to play.
TKiller


I AM MUNDO DESTROYER OF WORLDS



This has to be the best. Just best.
Geo
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MrBakpao
ok maybe i'll try this game later (y)
Sapphiire_old_1

malvin98 wrote:

ok maybe i'll try this game later (y)

trying wont hurt you (。◕ ∀ ◕。)
BrokenArrow
It'll hurt your social life tho
Blaziken
It made my social life.
Shows how sad mine is.. ;_;



This game. >_>
Normal words cant describe this so i'll make something up...

"uuu.uuuu....uuuuuuuewkmf"
La Volpe
Servers went full retard.
Yasen Baka
Goes to show just how great Riot Games are when it comes to bugs, glitches, and problems.
Navizel
This is so amusing. It says 91 ping but it feels like 150
Riot too busy with valentines
Ceph23

Navizel wrote:

This is so amusing. It says 91 ping but it feels like 150
Riot too busy with valentines
More like they're to busy fapping to Ahri or some other hot champ....... like Anivia. Damn she hot.
Vulf
They really need better servers (for every region). It's not like they don't have the money to support it or anything.

On a side note I played some bot games with some friends when the server was lagging and it was pretty hilarious. LOL
Hika
So, I'm still kinda on that Pantheon glitch. Kinda scary for him to ult, not show up and kill someone randomly..
Cyclohexane
man I love it when stupid adcs almost make us lose 5v4s



thank god late game the lux and ori got the burst they needed cause my god
Geo
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GeeNX

G e o wrote:

That game between C9E and NIP was so exciting...

NiP lost first one because of Shacker.... totally imo , he was pretty useless
Navizel

GeeNX wrote:

G e o wrote:

That game between C9E and NIP was so exciting...

NiP lost first one because of Shacker.... totally imo , he was pretty useless
Mithy missed most of his hooks too in the first game.
Geo
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Aoriki
I decided to try out the Tentacle Champ, Vel and I already told this to my friends...

Him and Yasuo in the same team comp is going to be scary....
Hika
all the mirror lanes who don't know what they're doing when vel'koz is out

yeahhhhh
Miyu
I been playing ocasionally ADC/SUPP this week even tho i main mid but i have to say i really had fun playing sivir a lot


also morgana..really good for supporting xD she's also really fun to play!
Jordan
>boots of mobility nerfed

brb suicide
Miyu

Jordan wrote:

>boots of mobility nerfed

brb suicide
wat? you srs
Hika

Jordan wrote:

>boots of mobility nerfed

brb suicide
no way

pls no
BrokenArrow

Hika wrote:

Jordan wrote:

>boots of mobility nerfed

brb suicide
no way

pls no
dw it's nothing too major, base movement speed (in combat) has been lowered but the out-of-combat speed boost still remains the same, so it's not a big deal for junglers. Also the costs are lower now so I'd actually call it a small buff because you can buy them even earlier in the game without sacrificing a lot of money
Miyu

BrokenArrow wrote:

dw it's nothing too major, base movement speed (in combat) has been lowered but the out-of-combat speed boost still remains the same, so it's not a big deal for junglers. Also the costs are lower now so I'd actually call it a small buff because you can buy them even earlier in the game without sacrificing a lot of money
ow..this is awesome..! xD lols thanks i got worried for a moment
Jordan
How can I chase with my talon without the combat ms
BrokenArrow
Get boots of Swiftness with Alacrity upgrade 8-)
Vulf
Pretty much what brokenarrow said. They didn't touch the reason you buy mobility boots in the first place. So yeah it's kind of a buff.

That ruby crystal change is kinda awesome though.
GeeNX
I will have to try them out before thinking if it's a buff or debuff. That -20 speed scares me a bit

Also got promoted to diamond II , spamming Lee is the best thing I could've done in soloQ.
Vulf
It's a buff when you take diminishing returns into consideration.

It's more of a nerf to supports taking the boots as opposed to junglers.
GeeNX
Worst LoL morning possible, got demoted to d III and I was queued with THIS guy

And some motherfucker dodged queue -.- , I got demoted the game after that one
Miyu

GeeNX wrote:

Worst LoL morning possible, got demoted to d III and I was queued with THIS guy
And some motherfucker dodged queue -.- , I got demoted the game after that one

dsssssssssssafsffsasafdsaosadosaodsaodsadoasdosajdasdiasdijajsid
Just fan girling a lil...wow =_= lucky you
Seikunai
Oh my God, we can finally spectate here in the PH server!

Quick question, I learned that MadLife plays osu!, anyone got an idea what his username is? (I searched MadLife and a South Korean showed up but I can't be too sure that it's him.)
GeeNX
I just know the username of BoxBox, don't know about MadLife
BrokenArrow
Gold III now \o/
Slowly but surely.
TKiller
Meanwhile I got to plat with 49% winrate.

I wish I could maintain something like that till Diamond just for the fun of it.
Justykanna
Fiora question.
When she uses her ultimate, will she take damage from the Thornmail's effect at all?
those
Each strike applies on-hit effects.
Yes?
Justykanna

those wrote:

Each strike applies on-hit effects.
Yes?
By that logic, I assumed yes, but I wanted to ask to make sure, since I dunno if she's actually invincible while in the middle of her ultimate.
those
She's not invincible. The only time when you're invincible is when you're in Statis, you're the target of Intervention, or you're dead.
tyrael6192
she's not invincible she's just untargetable
Justykanna

those wrote:

She's not invincible. The only time when you're invincible is when you're in Statis, you're the target of Intervention, or you're dead.

tyrael6192 wrote:

she's not invincible she's just untargetable
Ah, perfect.
Thanks for help you two! =)
Nofool

those wrote:

She's not invincible. The only time when you're invincible is when you're in Statis, you're the target of Intervention, or you're dead.
aren't malphit and vi invincible during their ult ? fizz's e also... (i'm not sure that dot still work at these moments)
Vulf
Just noticed my normal MMR is so high that I get matched with the same people almost every game in solo queue. Not to mention the queue times. :(

Kinda sad I'm going to have to play ranked to avoid 20-30 min queue times for normals. LOL
those

Nofool wrote:

those wrote:

She's not invincible. The only time when you're invincible is when you're in Statis, you're the target of Intervention, or you're dead.
aren't malphit and vi invincible during their ult ? fizz's e also... (i'm not sure that dot still work at these moments)
Nope, they just can't be disabled.
Keeby
Can I ask you guys about your league mouse settings? last season I used mouse acceleration to get to plat 4, but after shifting in the pre-season to mostly osu!, I found that I play better with mouse acceleration off.

So I went and played league again the other day, and I feel like a complete retard when using the y-function. Also, my mouse feels slow... What should I do? Are the mouse settings drastically different in league? Or should I make a smurf and get used to it?
OzzyOzrock
When I'm at the point where I can duel a Vayne as full support Thresh I think it shows I've done my job well.
BrokenArrow


Damn Lee Sin is one of those champs that are so horrible for the first 20 games but then slowly become insanely strong :D
The toxity is real tho
Sapphiire_old_1


1000 Wins hype ! :D
Blaziken


How to Graves?
Does attack speed work on this guy?
BrokenArrow
Yes because his dash profits from getting many aa's off
scottyyy
Graves is probably the most snowbally AD there is. He gets incredibly useless unless you win lane really hard. Mostly due to his short range and how much his burst damage falls off if you're not ahead.
Blaziken
I thought as much, i'll stick with Miss Fortune since she got a buff on the PBE.
Kanye West
Honestly Draven is a better version of Graves
Sapphiire_old_1
Wow that Midas F10 vs Mook Comet game , The adc from Midas F10 is just a draven god , that makes me wanna play draven so much

Kanye West wrote:

Honestly Draven is a better version of Graves
After seeing that game i agree 100% with u
Vulf
Release graves never forget.

Lanewick confirmed being removed from the game with his rework. Good riddance!
tyrael6192


ridiculous
BrokenArrow
hngg I've seen those on Reddit
mmmmmm
Sapphiire_old_1
it would be better if they had 9 tails instead of 1
Blaziken
Oh my god Aatrox is broken.

How to lifesteal
Sapphiire_old_1
its not because you have 1 good aatrox game that it means the champ is broken
Blaziken
Whenever I see other people play Aatrox they always do amazing. I'm not sure of any other way to counter it apart from reducing his attack speed.
tyrael6192
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