Rank is broken in o!m, caring about it is a waste of time. The o!m specific map leaderboards (for the harder diffs) are much more accurate for ranks, but your account rank doesn't matter. The easier maps get you more account rank than the harder ones, which is stupid. Just finished the hardest ranked map? Good job. You get no rank because no-one else has finished it, so you only beat like, 20 people. No rank. Play an easy map, get 99%? Bam, rank pushed up >.>
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Rank also becomes a race for who can play the most songs. There's like 30k autoconverts, there's a butt load more autos than active players.... even if the the ranking system used perfect mechanics it'd still be broken due to those frikin retarded autos. Honestly, those autos are the single biggest reason why mania won't overcome its competitors.
But that's all fine, I mean, mania's a side mode right? Its not like it deserves to be that good anyways (sarcasm)
But that's all fine, I mean, mania's a side mode right? Its not like it deserves to be that good anyways (sarcasm)
I still think it's cool that autos are implemented though. It's nice for newer players, they just shouldn't count them as ranked that's all. (Or a better alternative would be to get a good ranking system... I think they're working on a better ranking system for osu! but dunno about mania)
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This.Xcrypt wrote:
they just shouldn't count them as ranked that's all
But it's not going to happen lel.
Anyways, that's off-topic.
I think you managed to write down how I feel about this in a nutshell lol.Drace wrote:
Rank also becomes a race for who can play the most songs. There's like 30k autoconverts, there's a butt load more autos than active players.... even if the the ranking system used perfect mechanics it'd still be broken due to those frikin retarded autos. Honestly, those autos are the single biggest reason why mania won't overcome its competitors.
But that's all fine, I mean, mania's a side mode right? Its not like it deserves to be that good anyways (sarcasm)
Let's get back to some Q & A shall we? 
Do you guys use mechanical key board. I know in standard, going mech is generaly a good idea. But I tried playing mania on a blue switch yesterday and I sucked more than usuall.
So yeah. Who here uses a mech keyboard and did you improve when you got used to it?
Do you guys use mechanical key board. I know in standard, going mech is generaly a good idea. But I tried playing mania on a blue switch yesterday and I sucked more than usuall.
So yeah. Who here uses a mech keyboard and did you improve when you got used to it?
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Bought a 7G not long ago to replace my laptop keyboard. Black switches require lots of stamina and I need some more time to get used to it. I can tell I've been able to score better on hard maps but that's mainly because my laptop's keyboard really sucked. There is no downside (apart from the 6KRO through USB) from my point of view.
I have black switches too (6Gv2) and when I'm tired the keys feel kinda "mushy" and I can't play well because I'm not releasing them fast enough. Is that less of an issue with other switches? I hate seeing myself do better on a laptop keyboard than this sometimes .-.
I have reds, but it felt different than my laptop keyboard so it just takes some time to get used to.
The biggest advantages imo are
1) It's healthier for your fingers than a rubber dome keyboard
2) I have a habit of pressing keys hard. I played lvl 25-30 songs for two weeks and I had to buy a new rubber dome keyboard. I went through 3 rubber dome keyboards like this... A mech keyboard should last you at least 6 months, even if you play all day and mash the keys like your life depends on it.
As far as actual performance goes, I wouldn't say that I play better on this keyboard than on my rubber domes, it's about the same for me.
The biggest advantages imo are
1) It's healthier for your fingers than a rubber dome keyboard
2) I have a habit of pressing keys hard. I played lvl 25-30 songs for two weeks and I had to buy a new rubber dome keyboard. I went through 3 rubber dome keyboards like this... A mech keyboard should last you at least 6 months, even if you play all day and mash the keys like your life depends on it.
As far as actual performance goes, I wouldn't say that I play better on this keyboard than on my rubber domes, it's about the same for me.
Not really related to o!m but here I go anyway:
Recently I've bought a dancemat and been playing some stepmania with it and having fun. But are there some more other dance games out there too? What are some of the most 'hardcore' dance games?
Recently I've bought a dancemat and been playing some stepmania with it and having fun. But are there some more other dance games out there too? What are some of the most 'hardcore' dance games?
Well I guess there's ITG (In the Groove). And also PIU (Pump it Up). PIU uses a middle steppanel as well though, so I guess you'd need a mat that supports it.Xcrypt wrote:
Not really related to o!m but here I go anyway:
Recently I've bought a dancemat and been playing some stepmania with it and having fun. But are there some more other dance games out there too? What are some of the most 'hardcore' dance games?
I'm sure there are more games as well.
Obviously I still suck at dancing but all the songs I see on youtube look rather easy when viewed from someone who is used to o2jam type of charts. I feel like having only two feet is limiting the skill cap of these games because in the end it will only be about improving tapping speed. I'm probably wrong but this is how I feel =/ Anyways, I'll stop complaining/making assumptions and just have some fun with it. Still plenty of fun and challenge for me in stepmania ^^ But not any more today, my feet are burning because I've been playing it 4 hours straight lol.
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For those of you who play with a mech kb : do you always bottom out the keys do you press them just enough to register the key ?
I found PIU easier to get used to than DDR, once I got used to reading the directions properly. The layout felt more natural than DDRs.
Xcrypt this is old as balls now but it's stil a good example of how hardcore you can get at DDR. This chart is meant to be played on a keybord: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga7Hb1Kt9Ko
And yes, that's 40k combo. He's playing on a mode where your combo doesn't reset at the start of a new song, only when you actually break combo.
As for the keys thing, I'd be using a much lighter touch if I wasn't on a really shitty laptop keyboard that requires bottoming out hard.
Xcrypt this is old as balls now but it's stil a good example of how hardcore you can get at DDR. This chart is meant to be played on a keybord: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga7Hb1Kt9Ko
And yes, that's 40k combo. He's playing on a mode where your combo doesn't reset at the start of a new song, only when you actually break combo.
As for the keys thing, I'd be using a much lighter touch if I wasn't on a really shitty laptop keyboard that requires bottoming out hard.
Since the keys activate halfway on mechs there's no reason too. Bottoming out will just be an inaccurate waste of energy and speed. However, since I like bottoming out when I play, I modified my play keys to activate on the bottom and shortened their travel distance to overcome this.
How?Drace wrote:
I modified my play keys to activate on the bottom and shortened their travel distance to overcome this.
I set universal offset time to a positive value because the actuation moment happens before you hear the sound of the keypress, but shortening travel time seems really interesting to me.
Also, I don't think bottoming out is a bad thing because this way you get some kind of a recoil (restitution), so in theory it could actually help you tapping faster.
Not sure if this is actually the case in practice though, but I've never seen anyone not bottoming out on jacks.
EDIT: just tested. I get 400 bpm on single key wrist jacks not bottoming out, and 520 when bottoming out (100 hits). http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm
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Shortening the travel distance sounds tempting. How did you manage to do that ?Drace wrote:
Since the keys activate halfway on mechs there's no reason too. Bottoming out will just be an inaccurate waste of energy and speed. However, since I like bottoming out when I play, I modified my play keys to activate on the bottom and shortened their travel distance to overcome this.
Edit : I get 650 BPM by bottoming out, a mere 350 when trying to press just enough to register the key...
When you're used to your keyboard switches you'll know the point where it registers. Like I can use brown switch (for MOBA games), but not blue switch coz I may press too lightly and definitely not black switches coz they require too much strengthPyaKura wrote:
Shortening the travel distance sounds tempting. How did you manage to do that ?Drace wrote:
Since the keys activate halfway on mechs there's no reason too. Bottoming out will just be an inaccurate waste of energy and speed. However, since I like bottoming out when I play, I modified my play keys to activate on the bottom and shortened their travel distance to overcome this.
Edit : I get 650 BPM by bottoming out, a mere 350 when trying to press just enough to register the key...
Are there any recommended keyboards for o!mania that are no more than roughly $40? Or, in the long run, would it better to pick up a good mechanical keyboard? If so, which one?
a4tech krs-85 very good keyboard(for me). yes i'm poor can't even buy a mech keyboard...CaptainAhab wrote:
Are there any recommended keyboards for o!mania that are no more than roughly $40? Or, in the long run, would it better to pick up a good mechanical keyboard? If so, which one?
So I just watched kiokumis play of stellar blue on youtube and stumbled across the term anmitu in the comments. What does it mean?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anmitsu
I think this maybe? Idk. It looks rather odd. It's like the intestines of some jellyunicornfish
I think this maybe? Idk. It looks rather odd. It's like the intestines of some jellyunicornfish
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%81%82%E3% ... F%E3%81%A4
It's a term used in rhythm games when the player skilfully mashes buttons together in order not to break combo / not to fail
Like if there's a scaling that goes 'sdf<space>jkl' very quickly, the player can hit 'sdf<space>' and 'jkl' instead of hitting it properly, note-by-note
/offtopic school is too tough to play nowadays
It's a term used in rhythm games when the player skilfully mashes buttons together in order not to break combo / not to fail
Like if there's a scaling that goes 'sdf<space>jkl' very quickly, the player can hit 'sdf<space>' and 'jkl' instead of hitting it properly, note-by-note
/offtopic school is too tough to play nowadays
Ah ty.Isopach wrote:
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%81%82%E3%82%93%E3%81%BF%E3%81%A4
It's a term used in rhythm games when the player skilfully mashes buttons together in order not to break combo / not to fail
Like if there's a scaling that goes 'sdf<space>jkl' very quickly, the player can hit 'sdf<space>' and 'jkl' instead of hitting it properly, note-by-note
/offtopic school is too tough to play nowadays
/offtopic Yeah for me too. It's a living hell, haha.
-noob q
how do i make a 7k beatmap?
whenever i try it always seem stuck on 5k
basically how do i change how many columns there are?
ty
how do i make a 7k beatmap?
whenever i try it always seem stuck on 5k
basically how do i change how many columns there are?
ty
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When creating a new beatmap, go to the Song Setup tab, select mania as the game mode, go back to the tab where you select the AR, OD and stuff. There should be a setting named Colums, move the cursor till it reaches 7.
omg wow how i miss that
k thanks!
k thanks!
Ok so I'm stuck in a slump right now.
I've gotten to a point where I can play mania maps where I don't miss any notes.
It just irritates me that I can't 100% anything beyond normal and it seems that I'm not improving. -_-
I've been in this state for about 3 months now. Any tips on how I can get to the next level?
I've gotten to a point where I can play mania maps where I don't miss any notes.
It just irritates me that I can't 100% anything beyond normal and it seems that I'm not improving. -_-
I've been in this state for about 3 months now. Any tips on how I can get to the next level?
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Force yourself to play maps that are too hard for you (on which you get between high C to 84 or 85% B). Play with RD or HR on maps you already know and get high A or S.
I dont' think you should aim for 100% If you're an accuracy player aim for 95%+. Playing more, trying harder, and playing with HR all help imo.
And if you really feel like you hit a wall, it might be a good thing to change something about your playstyle (use mods, play different styles of maps, use different scrolling speeds, etc).
And if you really feel like you hit a wall, it might be a good thing to change something about your playstyle (use mods, play different styles of maps, use different scrolling speeds, etc).
Changing your playstyle feels difficult at at first and often leads to lower scores for a little while, until you adjust, but after the adjustment period, it's common to see a quick jump in skill.
Playing stuff you B or C is a great way to begin to push your skill ceiling up. I like to think of it this way: Let's say you can get ~95% acc on a 3 star mania map, but can only C a 4 star map (these numbers are only to get my point across). If you push your skill cap to where you can maybe get a mid B on that 4 star map, you might find that now you can get ~95% on a 3.5 star map, and a slightly higher acc on the 3 star map.
Making that jump from ~95 to 100% is incredibly hard. (case in point, I still don't have any ranked SS's in mania)
Playing stuff you B or C is a great way to begin to push your skill ceiling up. I like to think of it this way: Let's say you can get ~95% acc on a 3 star mania map, but can only C a 4 star map (these numbers are only to get my point across). If you push your skill cap to where you can maybe get a mid B on that 4 star map, you might find that now you can get ~95% on a 3.5 star map, and a slightly higher acc on the 3 star map.
Making that jump from ~95 to 100% is incredibly hard. (case in point, I still don't have any ranked SS's in mania)
I actually found the opposite to this. As my read speeds increase i've noticed that I can't get SS ranks that I obtained months ago on easy maps.Bobbias wrote:
Changing your playstyle feels difficult at at first and often leads to lower scores for a little while, until you adjust, but after the adjustment period, it's common to see a quick jump in skill.
Playing stuff you B or C is a great way to begin to push your skill ceiling up. I like to think of it this way: Let's say you can get ~95% acc on a 3 star mania map, but can only C a 4 star map (these numbers are only to get my point across). If you push your skill cap to where you can maybe get a mid B on that 4 star map, you might find that now you can get ~95% on a 3.5 star map, and a slightly higher acc on the 3 star map.
Making that jump from ~95 to 100% is incredibly hard. (case in point, I still don't have any ranked SS's in mania)
Hi,
When I play mania I'm litteraly hammering my keyboard (Revoltec Fightboard Advanced), is it a bad manner ?
When I play mania I'm litteraly hammering my keyboard (Revoltec Fightboard Advanced), is it a bad manner ?
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Do you mean that you're bottoming out (pressing the keys all the way down) ? Or are you randomly pressing the keys ?Waisse wrote:
Hi,
When I play mania I'm litteraly hammering my keyboard (Revoltec Fightboard Advanced), is it a bad manner ?
Bottoming out is not really an issue, actually lots (most ?) players bottom out when playing since you can't really gauge your strenght when playing, especially on harder songs. I always bottom out.
If you're pressing all the keys randomly hoping that you get the notes right it's simply a matter of practice, you'll get used to it eventually. By the way, I see you're french, you might enjoy reading the translation I made from Drace's o!m guide in my signature (it's oriented towards 7K but most advices work for other K counts).
I was comparing playthroughs on an osu!mania map and I noticed a discrepancy. On my first playthrough I got a higher score but on my second playthrough I had a higher accuracy, more 320's, more 300's, a longer combo and less misses then the first playthrough. Why did my first playthrough have a higher score? I
o!m has a unique scoring system so it's hard to tell (with my understanding of the scoring system, my guess is that your bad hits were more spread out over the song on your lower score). But generally, this scoring system mainly considers the quality of your hits(300g,300, etc) and your combo matters also but not so much. Also keep in mind that the percentual accuracy (94%, for example) you see considers 300g with the same value as it considers 300. In other words whether you get 300g or 300 it won't matter for your percentual accuracy nor grade, only your score.
See http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Score for more info
See http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Score for more info
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Bumping this thread and turning it into a general o!m thread as well. Just post whatever you want related to mania here.
So my map is apparently rankable as far as note placement/patterns go. Second hardest ranked beatmap incoming ?
(1/4 LN chordstreams were not too much welcome though, not really an issue tbh.)
So my map is apparently rankable as far as note placement/patterns go. Second hardest ranked beatmap incoming ?
(1/4 LN chordstreams were not too much welcome though, not really an issue tbh.)
Thanks for the bump, this thread is really useful.
Does anyone else play with there keycaps upside down? I tried it just now and beat a few of my high scores and it's quite comfortable to play on as well, although I get the strange feeling that it will destroy my switches for one reason or another.
Does anyone else play with there keycaps upside down? I tried it just now and beat a few of my high scores and it's quite comfortable to play on as well, although I get the strange feeling that it will destroy my switches for one reason or another.