1. Easy (1.57 stars, 180 notes)
2. Insane (4 stars, 630 notes)
3. kuroan's Normal (2 stars, 268 notes)
4. Sallad's Hard (3.25 stars, 357 notes)

For Ranked

by me
by kuroanchan
by Sallad4ever
by me

please re-download this if you download before 9th January 2014 02:10 AM (+10 GMT)

Changelog:
26/09/2013 - change BPM and offset + modify SB timing to match the offset
07/10/2013 - add Easy diff
21/10/2013 - add Sallad's Hard diff
08/12/2013 - add kuroan's Normal diff
29/12/2013 - modify SB
09/01/2014 - mp3 bitrate change from 128 to 192

MasterOfSheep wrote:

I decided to randomly give you some pro advice because im in a good mood \:D/. Enjoy~

Timing:
BPM: 150
Offset: 628

After you fixed that you should resnap all notes (that should fix everything regarding the note timings). And redo the inherited (green) timing sections
so it fits.
As a tip; if you find yourself having a wierd BPM like 150,050 you should generally round up/down (in this case 150 works). Rarely will a song have a wierdly broken BPM like 150,050.

General:
- I like your use of hitsounding. It fits well and you didnt overdo it. Some parts are not perfect but its already quite good!

- The beginning feels a little overmapped (00:00:628 - 00:15:028). For example those two notes 00:09:028 (3,5).
Maybe you could´ve also used slower slider velocity for the beginning which would fit the calmer pace of the song. This is not a must since the strings are the same in the beginning and in the rest of the song, so keeping the same slider velocity is atleast justified. (I´d still recommend you to make it slower).

Some mistakes as an example what you should look out for when mapping:

Combos:

- 00:23:028 (1,2) - weird two notes combo (keep it consistent. This doesnt fit to how you break off your combos before (they usually had 5-9 combo)).

Note placement:

- 00:42:228 (1) - Slider end not perfectly ontop of the note.
- 00:55:328 (2,4) - ^ Same

- 00:52:628 (8) - Not perfectly set in the middle. (If you make your intentions clear/you make visible what you want to do and dont execute it, then its an eyesore.)

Coating:

- 00:49:428 (2,3) - The space between those two sliders is just too close. That never reappears in the song and doesnt fit to your style. Try to keep it consistent.

Spacing:

- 01:00:228 (3,1) - This spacing is just really wierd and stops all the "flow".


Last words:

Look over your map and look for things that i pointed out. There´s alot more. You can go as detailed into finding things that dont fit as you want (meaning: rather concentrate making everything average than some parts good and some parts really bad).
Use distance snapping in the beginning to get a feel for flow.
And testplay ALOT in the beginning to get a feel what fits/what doesnt. If something feels weird for you to play, its usually not fitting and you should change it. Look/play other maps to see what YOU like and learn to understand why.

That´s about it.

Hopefully this is helpful!
Good luck!

Sallad4ever wrote:

Maaf lama bikinnya, udah susah nih ngemapnya gara2 hiatus. Untuk sementara wa post dulu, udah di map tapi hitsound belum selesai.

http://puu.sh/4UIHP.osu

Wa usahain cepet (semoga)

okei, aku submit dulu sementara
dat 3 slider arts in the end are so beautiful
+ aku suka penggunaan clap defaultnya di diffmu

XH-able map, but I haven't played that for multiple times

Sallad4ever wrote:

Maaf lama bikinnya, udah susah nih ngemapnya gara2 hiatus. Untuk sementara wa post dulu, udah di map tapi hitsound belum selesai.

http://puu.sh/4UIHP.osu

Wa usahain cepet (semoga)

Done

http://puu.sh/4Weui.osu

Hope you like it

Insane:

You should reduce the volume... 100% is too loud i think.
The 2.00 slider velocity seems too high also.. 1.80/70/60(?), might be enough.

00:46:228 (4,5,6) - This changement 1/2 is a bit confusing, especially because of the spacing which stays the same (or almost) I suggest you to make a new pattern from (4) to (6). Well actually I would see something like this http://puu.sh/5S8wR.jpg (starting at 00:45:628 (1) - ).
00:59:628 (2) - On the white tick just after would fit better.
01:18:228 (4) - a triple instead would fit better or at least add a note at 1:18:428
02:08:428 (2) - 02:08:428 (2) - Should start on the white tick after (for the whole pattern). I think. But I like the idea and the pattern.
02:10:028 (1) - ^
02:00:428 (3) - http://puu.sh/5S8Uk.jpg ?
02:11:628 (1) - White tick after.
02:12:428 (3) - ^
02:27:028 (3) - this is not really flowing i think.. Reduce the reverse and add a single note 02:27:628 ?
02:28:628 (3) - ^
02:32:028 (4) - good haha
02:34:528 (5) - triple?
02:35:828 (9) - this is awkward..
from 02:40:428 (1) - to 02:51:028 (4) - I think you should map a bit more vocal.
03:04:628 (1,2,3) - the triple doens't fit that much I think
03:10:828 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/5Sa68.jpg ?

1. too long outro? I suggest to decrease SB's time

1. 01:58:228- add a not?
2. 02:40:628 (1,3) - curve more, and you can blanket 02:41:828 (2) - correctly
3. 02:55:028 (1,2) - difficut to find rhythm for beginner. how about using reverse slider?
   

1. 00:29:028 (5,1,3,5) - avoid overlap
2. 00:36:828 (5,1) - ^
3. 00:43:428 (3) - x:194 y:79 (stack correctly)
4. 00:45:028 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - I suggest to increase DS avoid overlap about 00:46:228 (4) -
5. 00:59:628 (2) - remove clap
6. 01:15:828 (2) - x:392 y:192 (stack correctly)
7. 02:13:228- add a note
8. 02:34:228 (3) - NC
9. 02:35:828 (9) - amazing!
10. 02:43:428- add a note
11. 03:36:628 (5) - I prefer not to stack on 03:37:028 (6,7) -

1. conform kiai-time with other diffs
2. for normal, it is better to avoid too curved slider like 00:31:028 (1) -
3. HP+2, AR+2, OD+1
4. 00:02:228 (2) - hard to find slider's line. I recommend to remake
5. 00:10:828 (4) - end at 00:11:228
6. 00:32:228- add a note
7. 00:33:628 (4,5) - it is better not to stack. difficult for normal
8. 00:41:828 (1) - I prefer this
   
9. 00:53:828 (1) - end at 00:55:028
10. 01:28:628 (1,2) - in this case, symmetric pattern is better
    
    SPOILER

    
11. 01:30:228 (1,2,3,4) - how about this rhythm?
    
12. 01:55:028 (3,2) - avoid overlap
13. 01:56:628 (2,4,5) - ^
14. 02:08:228 (4,2) - in this case, it is better to stack correctly
15. 02:53:428 (1) - for normal, too difficult to be short spinner
16. 03:02:228- add a note
17. 03:04:228 (4,5) - in this case, blanket is better
    
    SPOILER

    
18. 03:07:028 (3) - end at 03:07:428

1. 01:00:628- add normal-hitsound?
2. 01:07:028- ^
3. 01:17:828 (2,3) - I think this overlap is hard to see
4. 01:25:428~01:28:628- add break time?
5. 01:59:828- add normal-hitsound?
6. 02:06:228- ^
7. 02:12:628- ^
8. 03:00:628- ^
9. 03:07:028- ^
10. 03:13:428- ^
11. 03:19:028 (1) - wow!
12. 03:22:228 (1) - wow!!

RandomEffect wrote:

[kuroan's Normal]

1. conform kiai-time with other diffs
2. for normal, it is better to avoid too curved slider like 00:31:028 (1) -
3. HP+2, AR+2, OD+1
4. 00:02:228 (2) - hard to find slider's line. I recommend to remake
5. 00:10:828 (4) - end at 00:11:228
6. 00:32:228- add a note
7. 00:33:628 (4,5) - it is better not to stack. difficult for normal
8. 00:41:828 (1) - I prefer this
   
9. 00:53:828 (1) - end at 00:55:028
10. 01:28:628 (1,2) - in this case, symmetric pattern is better
    
    SPOILER

    
11. 01:30:228 (1,2,3,4) - how about this rhythm?
    
12. 01:55:028 (3,2) - avoid overlap
13. 01:56:628 (2,4,5) - ^
14. 02:08:228 (4,2) - in this case, it is better to stack correctly
15. 02:53:428 (1) - for normal, too difficult to be short spinner
16. 03:02:228- add a note
17. 03:04:228 (4,5) - in this case, blanket is better
    
    SPOILER

    
18. 03:07:028 (3) - end at 03:07:428

yurunneram wrote:

You sure like blue don't you?

yurunneram wrote:

NORMAL

00:32:628 (4) - Overlaps 00:31:028 (1) but it's okay

// Ok well I found something weird with the NCs so actually if no one mention this before you can ignore but I think this one's better (all of this yes, i changed it, thanks)

00:32:628 (4) - NC here

00:34:228 (1) - drop NC

00:35:828 (4) - NC here

00:37:828 (1) - drop NC

00:39:028 (4) - NC here

00:42:228 (5) - NC here

00:44:228 (1) - Drop NC

00:45:428 (4) - NC here

00:47:428 (1) - Drop NC

00:48:628 (3) - NC here

//That's all the NC shit (GOMENASAI QAQ)

00:57:428 (3) - Blanket the tail of (2) more? OwO

01:51:828 (3) - Move to x312 y188 then Ctrl + G for flow

01:52:628 (1) - Extend spinner by half a beat?

02:39:428 (1) - This point until the next timing section. The rhythms a bit weird actually >.>

03:17:028 (1,2) - Stack isn't perfect

Winek wrote:

Normal
00:04:628 (5) - It doesn't seem good, should be replaced with a circle at 00:05:028
00:15:628 There should be a spinner there, and no pause
01:22:328 There should be a spinner like Easy and a short pause
02:04:428 (2) - You should remove this note, replace it by 02:04:628 (3)
02:21:428 This pause is not supposed to exist and there should be a rounder
02:51:228 (1) - move it at 02:51:028 and expand it to a full beat.
02:52:228 (3) - Replace this note by a spinner that goes up to 02:53:428 (i think that's good.. because i wanna use spin trap LOL)
03:17:228 Add a cricles here (yes thanks)

Guidelines are important and should be followed in most maps. However, they are NOT rules, so they may be broken in special cases. If you want to break a guideline, ask yourself this: Does what I'm about to do make sense? Is it more fun to play like this compared to sticking to the guidelines? If you answer yes to both these questions, then it is probably okay.

Setsurei wrote:

bluehall90 mod's
[Normal]
22:44 bluehall90: 01:31:828 (1,2,3) - Small issue, bikin 1-3 segaris
22:45 bluehall90: Entah 1 ato 2 nya yang digeser
22:47 bluehall90: 02:06:628 (2,3) - Lebih enak kayanya kalo digeser slider 3 nya ke kanan dikit, kurang enak diliat, terus sama sesuaiin distance snap sama circle berikutnya ~ jangan lupa xD
22:47 bluehall90: Btw normalnya bisa diimprove harusnya '-'
22:47 bluehall90: Cuma terserah mapper :p
22:48 bluehall90: 02:39:428 (1,2) - 1 digeser sedikit ke kanan, biar slider 1 sama 2 keliatan "nyambung

- Kevin wrote:

[kuroan's Normal]

you can try some better paterns like these

http://puu.sh/6bVr1.jpg
http://puu.sh/6bVIj.jpg
http://puu.sh/6bVSO.jpg

NC inconsistences (some needed new combos at slider tail)
00:08:628 (1,2) - make curves similar
00:10:228 (3,4) - Make more beautiful slider
00:51:828 (2,3) - make them look similar Ctrl+C Ctrl+V then flip
00:40:228 (2,3) - make more beautiful
00:59:828 (3,4,5) - try something http://puu.sh/6bV4s.jpg
01:54:228 (1,2,3,4) - out of rhythm better delete and finish spinner at 01:55:028 -
02:05:828 (1,2) - make them look similar
02:04:628 (3) - this slider should end at 02:04:828 -
02:45:828 (1,2) - try this: http://puu.sh/6bX8N.jpg
02:48:028 (1) - move to 02:48:028 - make him a 1/1 slider
02:48:028 (1) - ^ Similar
02:55:028 (1,2,3) - this is bad, try to delete (1,3) move (2) to 02:56:628 - and add note at 02:56:228 -

kuroanchan wrote:

where is Sallad ._.)

Kytoxid wrote:

[kuroan's Normal]

00:29:828 (3,4) - Merge these sliders? The head of slider 4 should actually come on the blue tick, which might be too hard for Normal, but the current positioning is awkward to play.
00:32:628 (1) to 02:39:428 (1) - The map gets really boring in this entire middle section, in my opinion. It's a really long 1/1 pattern with an extra note every 5-10 seconds or so, and a few other changes. As a whole, I'd recommend trying to blend some other musical parts into the rhythmic picture instead of following purely vocals.
01:22:428 - Add a spinner, like the other diffs? Having breaks in kiai is weird.
02:58:828 (5) - Unstack this note? Might be a bit hard to read on Normal.

kuroanchan wrote:

here setsu: http://puu.sh/6p1z4.osu

Rakuen wrote:

no kudosu

continue mod

[kuroan's Normal]
00:01:853 (1) - Put at X:236 Y:276
00:04:253 (4) - Blanket with 00:03:453 (3) - or stack on head of 00:02:253 (2) - with DS
00:05:453 (2,3) - Change to a slider
00:10:853 (4) - Can try Ctrl+J and DS with 00:10:253 (3) - , but avoid overlap with 00:09:453 (2) - by moving 00:10:253 (3) - to a little up
00:15:053 (1) - Remove this, extend 00:11:853 (1) - to 00:15:053 - and then postpone the break to 00:16:653 -
00:26:253 - Can try a spinner here and stop 00:29:053 -
00:29:853 (3,4) - This pattern doesnt look good, try bending 00:30:253 (4) - to a little down
00:31:253 - Note to follow vocal
00:35:253 - Put a circle or note here, there's a "nn" vocal there
00:50:653 (4) - Add a reverse and DS 00:51:453 (1) -
00:52:653 (3) - Replace this with a copy of 00:51:853 (2) - rotated by 180* degree
00:56:253 (1) - Suggest to remove this
00:56:653 (2) - NC (KIAI first hit)
01:09:053 (1) - Remove NC
01:09:453 (2) - NC here (applies for other constant heavy vocal if you agree)
01:19:453 (1) - Extend to 01:21:453 -
01:21:853 (1) - Move to 01:22:253 - and extend to 01:25:453 - (Please end KIAI at 01:25:453 - too)
01:31:853 (1,2,3) - Make them straight lined
01:37:653 (2) - Stack this with 01:35:853 (2) -
01:39:853 (1) - Inconsistency spacing, try DS function
01:41:053 - Missed a hit here
01:52:653 (1) - Make this stop at 01:54:253 - for previous' rhythm consistency, or else stop at 01:55:153 - to follow the music
01:55:853 - KIAI missing
02:07:653 (3) - Don't bend this too much, make it a little straighter
02:09:653 (2,3,4) - This is quite different from previous level of difficulty, consider to make them easier
02:16:853 (3,4,5) - ^
02:18:253 (1) - Extend to 02:20:653 -
02:21:053 (1) - Remove this
02:21:453 - Add a spinner here and stop at 02:24:653 -
02:39:053 - This timing point (with 70% volume) is extra, remove it
02:46:253 - Add circle here and move 02:46:453 (2) - to 02:46:653 - with distance snapped
02:47:853 - Circle and move 02:48:053 (1) - to 02:48:253 -
02:49:653 (1) - Same ^
02:51:853 (4,5) - Remove and replace with a spinner at 02:51:853 - and stop 02:53:053 -
02:53:453 - Add spinner here and stop at 02:55:053 -
02:58:853 - Missing vocal
03:00:053 - Add something here
03:02:053 - ^
03:05:253 - Missing vocal
03:08:053 (2) - Remove
03:19:053 (1) - Extend to 03:21:453 -
03:25:453 (1) - Extend to 03:28:253 -

In conclusion, you need more patterns and flow to make this difficulty more fun and interesting >.o)b
good luck

kuroanchan wrote:

here, Setsu : http://puu.sh/6sNTz.osu

1. actually, not adding break?

Kuro Fuyusaki wrote:

Continue Modding, sorry it's late

[Kuroan's Normal]
01:25:453 (1) - not setting break? ( no )
01:43:053 (5,3) - seems like overlap, why not flip 01:44:653 (3) - vertically? ( 'kay )
03:25:453 (1,1) - why not like 01:19:453 (1,1) - ? , or the opposite. ( no, better if different i think. )
02:51:853 (1) - too short i think, not good ( well, there is no problem o.o)b )
02:58:853 (5) - it's still hard for normal diff to stack the HC on the end point of the slider, i think ( it's fine o.o because kiai, i think )

Kuro Fuyusaki wrote:

[Easy]
01:21:853 (5) - The vocal looks missing there, add HC easy diff should not add too much object / too crowded
02:21:053 (1) - ^ , or lengthen the the spinner 02:18:253 (1) - ^
00:05:053 (1) - remove NC and start it from 00:05:453 (1) - * the beginning of phrase
00:32:653 (3) - NC? no, this is to let the trail helps the newbs
00:45:053 (1) - remove NC and start it from 00:45:453 (1) - * beginning of phrase / pattern
01:02:653 (1) - ^ start it from 01:03:053 (2) - * ^
01:09:053 (1) - ^ start it from 01:09:453 (1) - * ^
01:12:253 (1) - ^ start it from 01:12:653 (1) - * ^
01:19:053 (4) - NC? no
01:31:853 (3) - ^ no, trail helps
00:29:453 (1) - to 00:34:253 (4) - why don't make the slider lengthen same as 01:28:653 (1) - to 01:33:453 (4) - innovation 8)
01:44:253 (1) - remove NC and start it from 01:44:653 (2) - * no
01:51:053 (4) - i consider NC there ^
01:55:853 (2) - it's looks great if you NC it ^
01:58:653 (1) - remove NC and start it from 01:59:053 (1) - * ^
02:01:853 (1) - ^ start it from 02:02:253 (2) - * ^
02:05:053 (1) - ^ start it from 02:05:453 (1) - * ^
02:08:253 (1) - ^ start it from 02:08:653 (1) - * ^
02:11:453 (1) - ^ start it from 02:11:853 (1) - * ^
02:14:653 (1) - ^ start it from 02:15:053 (1) - * ^
02:28:253 (3) - NC? ^
02:35:053 (1) - remove NC and start it from 02:34:253 (4) - ok
02:35:853 (4) - consider NC it no
02:46:653 (1) - remove NC and start it from 02:47:053 (2) - * ^
02:49:853 (1) - ^ start it from 02:50:253 (2) - * ^
02:53:453 (5) - consider NC it ^
02:56:253 (2) - remove this, from my guess it would be good ^
02:59:453 (1) - remove NC and start it from 02:59:853 (2) - * ^
03:02:653 (1) - ^ start it from 03:03:053 (2) - * ^
03:12:253 (1) - ^ start it from 03:12:653 (2) - * ^
03:28:253 (2) - i prefer use 1 HC than slider 1/2 prefer slider, its easier to catch rather than HC

[Insane]
Consider use the same DS on stream lol, 1.0x stream is too much, I only did it on some

00:02:253 (3) - start NC from here no, this is still on her phrase
00:05:053 (1) - remove NC and start it from 00:05:453 (2) - * no, this is the beginning of her sentence
00:08:253 (1) - How about stack the end of the slider and make a straight slider like this this is blanket 00:08:253 (1,2) -

00:08:253 (1) - remove NC and start it from 00:08:653 (2) - * same reason as NC suggestion you did before
00:15:953 (5) - NC? ok
00:19:053 (1) - remove NC, well it's a little long combo, but that's should good enough the beginning of jump, not removing
00:19:853 (6) - NC it ok
00:20:653 (1) - remove NC no
00:24:853 (1) - ^ ^
00:26:453 (1) - ^ and start it from 00:25:853 (10) - ^
00:30:853 (1) - ^ start it from 00:31:053 (2) - * ^
00:37:253 (1) - ^ start it from 00:37:453 (3) - , it would be nice ^
00:38:853 (1) - ^ start it from 00:39:053 (3) - ^
00:43:853 (5) - NC it, it would be nice ^
00:45:653 (1) - the NC is a little weird, remove it and start it from 00:45:453 (4) - I just want to make a triangular pattern
00:47:053 (7) - NC it, it would be nice no
00:52:253 (1) - remove the NC and start it from 00:51:453 (6) - ^
00:56:253 (5) - how about NC it? ^, this is because the end of that slider multiplier
00:58:253 (6) - ^ ^
00:59:453 (1) - remove the NC and start it from 00:59:853 (3) - ^
01:00:653 (1) - weird NC, remove it ^, antijump
01:02:653 (1) - remove the NC and start it from 01:03:053 (3) - ^
01:04:453 (1) - ^ start it from 01:04:653 (2) - * ^
01:05:853 (1) - ^ start it from 01:06:053 (2) - * ok
01:06:853 (1) - weird NC i guess, remove it no
01:09:053 (1) - remove NC and start it from 01:09:453 (2) - * ^
01:11:053 (5) - how about NC it? ok
01:12:253 (1) - remove NC and start it from 01:12:653 (3) - no
01:13:453 (1) - hmm... I consider remove the NC and start it from 01:14:253 (3) - ^
01:15:453 (1) - remove the NC and start it from 01:15:853 (2) - * ^
01:44:253 (1) - ^ start it from 01:44:653 (2) - * ^
01:49:453 (5) - NC? ^
01:55:653 (1) - it's a little weird to NC from there, i recommend start it from 01:55:853 (3) - ^
01:57:053 (1) - ^ same as, start it from 01:57:453 (2) - * ^
01:58:453 (1) - i recommend remove the NC and start it from 01:59:053 (3) - ^
01:59:853 (1) - remove the NC ^
02:00:253 (2) - remove the back and forth slider, and add HC + NC it from 02:00:653 (3) - ^
02:01:853 (1) - if can remove this NC and add the NC from 02:02:053 (2) - * ^
02:05:053 (1) - i think you must remove this NC and start it from 02:05:253 (2) - ^*
02:07:053 (7) - NC it ^
02:08:253 (1) - remove the NC and start it from 02:08:653 (2) - * ^
02:11:453 (1) - ^ start it from 02:11:853 (2) - * ^
02:14:653 (1) - if can remove this NC and add the NC from 02:15:053 (2) - * ^
02:16:653 (4) - NC it? ^
02:27:853 (5) - start NC from here not 02:28:053 (1) - ^
02:29:453 (7) - NC it ^
02:30:053 (1) - remove NC and start it from 02:30:253 (2) - * ^
02:31:253 (1) - weird NC lol, start it from 02:31:053 (4) - ^
02:33:453 (1) - remove NC, follow the flow of the previous combo ^
02:35:853 (7) - NC it or not? ^
02:45:453 (8) - consider NC it ^
02:46:453 (1) - consider remove the NC and start it from 02:46:853 (3) - ^
02:48:653 (5) - NC it ^
02:49:853 (1) - remove NC and start it from 02:50:253 (3) - ^
02:51:853 (3) - NC it or not? ^
02:53:453 (5) - NC it, it would be nice ^
02:56:253 (5) - NC it? ^
02:57:853 (6) - remove the back and forth slider, and add HC + NC it from 02:58:253 (7) - ^
02:58:453 (1) - remove NC ^
02:59:453 (1) - ^ and start it from 02:59:853 (3) - ^
03:01:653 (1) - ^ start it from ^
03:02:653 (1) - consider remove the NC and start it from 03:03:053 (3) - ^
03:05:853 (1) - remove NC and start it from 03:06:253 (3) - ^
03:07:853 (4) - consider NC it ^
03:09:053 (1) - remove NC and start it from 03:09:453 (3) - ^
03:10:853 (1) - remove NC ^
03:12:653 (2) - consider NC it ^
03:14:253 (6) - NC it ^
03:15:453 (1) - remove the NC and start it from 03:15:653 (2) - * ^
03:16:453 (1) - remove the NC ^
03:17:253 (9) - i guess need NC ^
03:17:853 (1) - remove the NC ^
03:27:053 (5) - NC it ^
03:33:053 (1) - remove the NC and start it from 03:33:453 (3) - ^
03:36:653 (5) - consider NC it ^
03:37:853 (1) - remove the NC ^
03:38:053 (6) - move it to right 2 tick of 1/4 snap divisor + NC it, and give a HC on this time, also move 03:38:653 (7) - to right 2 tick of 1/4 snap divisor and place the pattern like this for example ^
http://puu.sh/6wrwu.jpg

Kuro Fuyusaki wrote:

actually, not adding break? no, breaks are not compulsory
[Insane]
00:15:153 (2) - add HC, seems hollow, there's triplets beat on there ok
00:46:253 (4) - the ds looks slow from the previous object, consider synchronize it like the previous object the speed is changed far before this
01:16:453 (3,4) - hmmm, place it on x:100 y:144 this is on purpose, stacked to 01:14:853 (5) -
01:17:253 (5) - place it to x:212 y:108 blanket with 01:16:653 (4) -
03:37:053 (6,1) - try adding finish than whistle, hmm, just suggestion, but i think it would be nice imo too noisy
03:47:853 (1) - add finish? ok

I wished that i get 2kds... so I mod this long

1. 01:55:853 - 02:24:253 - No Kiai here?
2. disable widescreen support on kuroan's Normal
3. use brighter combo colours?
   
   liek this

   
   

   [Colours]
   Combo1 : 60,30,180
   Combo2 : 200,30,30
   Combo3 : 0,30,180

   
   [Easy]
   • 
     good looking, very neat
   1. 00:02:253 (3) - NC
   2. 00:02:253 (3) - remove NC, NC here 00:05:453 (2)
   3. 00:23:053 (1) - last node on 324,52 looks better
   4. 00:26:253 (3) - NC
   5. 00:32:653 (3,4) - rotate about ~25 degrees clockwise with playfield as center, looks great, also NC at (3)
   6. 00:37:453 (2) - red node 1 grid down
   7. 00:51:853 (3) - NC
   8. 00:56:253 - add note?
   9. 01:02:653 (1) - how about remove NC here, and NC at 01:03:853 (3)
   10. =>01:05:853 (1) - remove NC here too, NC at 01:07:053 (2)
   11. 01:14:253 (3) - Sampleset Normal on repeat *use normal sampleset instead of clap*
   12. 01:19:053 (4) - NC
   13. 01:21:853 - add note on 168,308 would be great
   14. 01:25:453 - expand the ~break here?
   15. 01:31:853 (3) - NC
   16. 01:47:053 (4) - remove finish on head, noisy
   17. 01:51:053 (4) - NC
   18. 02:28:253 (3) - ^
   19. 02:37:453 (6) - ^
   20. 03:04:653 (3) - same as 01:14:253 (3)
   21. 03:25:453 (1) - how about symmetry this thing? liek the image
       
       SPOILER

       
       

       206,242,205453,6,0,B|128:212|112:140|168:80|168:80|256:118|256:118|344:80|344:80|400:140|384:212|306:242,1,600,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0

   22. 03:28:253 (2) - expand the repeat until 03:28:653
   23. => 03:28:653 (1) - move the spinner 1/2 tick ahead
   [Normal]
   • 
     nothing special in this diff, need more blanket-ish slider
   1. 00:16:653 - expand the ~break here?
   2. 00:31:453 (2,1) - bad slider flow here, change the (1)'s shape?
   3. 00:37:853 (1,2,3,4,5) - make a proper pentagon shape?
   4. 00:56:253 - add note
   5. 00:58:853 (1) - remove NC, NC here 00:59:853 (3)
   6. 01:25:453 - add break here?
   7. 01:42:453 (2) - remove this note?
   8. 01:55:453 - add note here too
   9. 02:01:053 (1) - remove NC
   10. 02:03:853 (1) - ^
   11. 02:39:453 (1,2) - sounds bad here (?)
   12. 02:56:253 - add note here too
   
   [Hard]
   • 
     nice
   1. 00:56:253 - add note?
   2. 00:41:353 (4,1) - flow nya rada jelek disini, and... I was wondering about this
      
      SPOILER

      
   3. 01:18:653 (4) - move it to 320,248?
   4. 01:29:053 (3) - rotate 5 degress counter-clockwise, with selection as centre
   5. => 01:29:353 (4) - disesuaikan distancenya
   6. 01:41:453 (1) - dibikin lebih gemuk lagi slidernya, liek this
      
      SPOILER

      
   7. 01:55:453 (1) - add note?
   8. 02:05:453 (1) - how about this?
      
      SPOILER

      

      256,192,125453,6,0,B|260:128|312:104|312:104|300:24,1,191.999994140625,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

   9. 02:12:653 (2) - Sampleset Normal on head?
   10. 02:34:253 (1,2) - that's.. so far, maybe reduce the distance?
   11. 02:40:653 - expand the ~break here
   12. 02:55:653 (2,3) - Revert for better zig-zag flow?
   13. 03:00:653 (4) - Sampleset Normal?
   14. 03:01:453 (1) - Whistle on tail?
   15. 03:07:053 (3) - Sampleset Normal on head?
   16. 03:07:853 (1) - Whistle on tail?
   17. 03:09:453 (1) - Finish on head
   18. 03:13:453 (4) - Sampleset Normal
   19. 03:21:853 (2) - ^
   
   [Insane]
   • 
     I can't read your flows orz
     Why not use 2.40 SV instead of using 1.2x multiplier in the whole diff?
   1. 00:02:253 (3) - I'm afraid this slider not rankable anymore, red node yang numpuk bikin slidernya kerasa lambat, CMIIW
   2. also, 00:02:253 (3) - NC?
   3. 00:04:253 (5) - kayaknya jelek de nabrak end slider (3), move it somewhere?
   4. 00:09:453 (3) - rotate 15 degrees clockwise, then move it to 248,328
   5. => 00:10:253 (4,5,6,7,8) - disesuaikan
   6. 00:15:253 (3,4,5) - try something liek this?
      
      SPOILER

      
   7. 00:17:853 (5) - how about this?
      
      SPOILER

      
      

      356,256,17853,2,8,B|420:228|412:160|412:160|404:92|468:64,1,239.999992675781

   8. => 00:18:653 (7) - move to 344,344
   9. 00:18:653 (7,1) - the flow seems hard to follow here :/
   10. 00:21:253 (2,3,4) - rotate ~30 degrees clockwise with selection as center
   11. => 00:22:253 (5,6,7) - see image
       
       SPOILER

       
   12. 00:25:853 (4) - how about remove the repeat, and add circle at 00:26:253 - instead?
   13. 00:29:653 (2,3,4) - 1/4 slider-slider seems too far, then 1/4 slider-circle too close
   14. 00:32:653 (1) - 1st node 1 grid down
   15. 00:38:253 (6,7,8) - (6) to (8), then (7) to (6) *better flow from (7,8,1) imo
       
       SPOILER

       
   16. 00:39:853 - add note here bby? for consistency with 00:41:053 (2,3,4,1)
   17. 00:45:053 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - ??
   18. 01:01:453 (1) - remove NC?
   19. 01:09:053 (1) - ^ NC at 01:09:453 (2)
   20. 01:28:653 (1,2,3) - make a consistent jump for this? liek this image
       
       SPOILER

       
   21. => 01:30:253 (2,3,4) - ^^
   22. 01:33:453 (4) - New Combo, be consistent orz * liek 01:30:053 (1) *
   23. 01:41:453 - 01:47:053 - quite much streamy, very different from 1st "slow down" part ( 00:42:253 - 00:48:253 )
   24. 02:34:253 (1,2,3,4,5) - quite hard to read for 1st try, coz the distance is same as
   25. 02:31:653 (2,3,4) .. orz
   26. 02:35:853 (7) - make it symmetry?
   27. 02:39:853 (3) - NC?
   28. => 02:39:853 (3,4) - move it somewhere but not equal high as 02:39:453 (2) *prefer 100,320
   29. 02:45:253 (7) - NC
   30. 02:53:453 (7) - ^
   31. 03:25:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why not put in center? It's more easy to rotate
   32. 03:47:853 (1) - put this further from (7)?

Setsurei wrote:

the distance between the two of them are a beat gap, so it's still possible.
I'll reconsider this again (to change to slider or not), thanks

Tuxdude143 wrote:

Setsurei wrote:

the distance between the two of them are a beat gap, so it's still possible.
I'll reconsider this again (to change to slider or not), thanks

I do understand their is a beat gap but its still important to not use too many spinners on easy mode. Normal, hard and insane its fine but not really in easy.

Tuxdude143 wrote:

I understand your reasoning behind not changing the slider overlaps. Thats fine.
What i'm really wanting to know is have you lowered the amount of spinners in the whole song? That is a really important thing to address especially on easy mode because they won't generally be able to pass 2 back to back spinners on their first 15 trys. Hell I still can't pass spinners with a mouse. Basicly what i'm saying is that if you haven't cut down on the spinners yet then you need to do so.

No Dap wrote:

Tuxdude143 wrote:

I understand your reasoning behind not changing the slider overlaps. Thats fine.
What i'm really wanting to know is have you lowered the amount of spinners in the whole song? That is a really important thing to address especially on easy mode because they won't generally be able to pass 2 back to back spinners on their first 15 trys. Hell I still can't pass spinners with a mouse. Basicly what i'm saying is that if you haven't cut down on the spinners yet then you need to do so.

Just passing by. It's true that the mapper is using way too many spinners in places that could have been mapped with circles and sliders (don't get me wrong, spinners do fit fine), but I don't agree with your reasoning.

Given that the spinners are lengthy enough, if you can't pass hp3 od3 spinners, you have a serious problem, no offense. Even as a beginner

Also from what I see, there is enough recovery time for beginners to react after the spinner.

And I absolutely see no reason for you to tell the mapper "you need to reduce the amount of spinners"

1. 01:55:853 - ummm.. kiai time? start? lol its the same as the other kiai times
2. 02:24:653 - kiai time end
3. disable widescreen support for all diffs jk sorry~ ignore this

1. 00:29:453 (1,2,3,4) - make these longer kinda like 01:28:653 (1,2,3,4). the pauses are not very good for an easy diff
2. 00:59:853 (1,2) - could blanket a bit better!
3. 01:28:653 (1,2,3,4) - you could add some variation rotate the last 2 a bit or something ><
4. 02:25:053 (1,2,3) - start these at 02:24:653 and then add a slider at the end! and same as above too~
5. 02:32:653 - add hitcircle~
6. 03:28:253 (1) - whys this sv so low? o-o dont see a reason for it to be

1. 00:06:253 (3) - make 3 shorter and add a hitcircle at 00:07:053? feels and sounds better imo
2. 00:31:453 (2,3) - its hard to read stacked imo ><
3. 01:02:453 (5) - change to 2 hitcircles so the vocals arent captured by the weak slider tail?
4. 01:34:053 (2,3) - try this rhythm isntead? feels better imo. should NC at 01:35:053 if done
   
5. 01:41:453 (1) - i moused over it and was like "oh what in the hell" lol try this. its so much easier
   
   hue

   

1. you should map the intro! its inconsistent to have an easier diff map the intro but not the hard diff.
2. 00:34:653 (2) - reverse?
3. sorry im no good at modding symmetrical maps >< theres no problems as far as i can tell~

1. a good Nyquill once told me NCs should be in sections whether its by 1 measure of 2 measures, it should be consistent (unless you have some fancy crayola coloring goin on ofc) and i agree with it!~ here are some that bugged me
2. 00:05:053 (1) - remove NC! this is a continuation of the previous NC vocal section~
3. 00:05:453 (2) - add NC
4. 00:17:853 (5) - add NC
5. 00:19:053 (1) - remove NC.
6. 00:20:653 (1) - remove NC
7. 00:21:453 (3) - add nc
8. 00:24:653 (6) - add
9. 00:24:853 (1) - remove
10. 00:25:853 (5) - try this rhythm? turning it into a slider and a hitcircle to emphasize the strong violin sound at 00:26:253 (NC at 00:26:253 - if you took the change)
    
11. 00:30:153 - "ni" starts here. extend your slider to start here and end at the same place? dont forget to distance snap it so 00:30:053 (4) is partially over the (5)
12. 00:30:853 (1) - remove NC
13. 00:31:053 (2) - add NC
14. 00:40:453 - forgot to add triplet like 00:38:853 (1,2,3)? or intentional?
15. 00:41:153 (3,4,1) - idk about this inconsistent spacing compared to your other triplets like 00:33:053 (2,3,4).. make them closer together?
16. 00:51:453 (6) - same as the other one. the strongest vocal at 00:51:853 should be emphasized with a hitcircle.
17. 01:18:253 (4,5) - this isnt a problem but imo triplet would be better instead for consistency with 01:17:453 (1,2,3) >< personal preference~
18. 02:01:653 - add hitcircle to continue following drums
19. 02:01:853 (1) - remove NC
20. 02:02:053 (2) - add NC
21. 02:02:053 (2,3,4,5,6) - this whole pattern feels wonky. the heads of the sliders should be on the strong beats (drums on the white ticks) try something like this. it doesnt have to start with a triplet but you should get all 4 sliders on white ticks somehow. if you make the change, dont forget to change where the hitsounds clap is
    
22. 02:04:853 - feels empty. add hitcircle~
23. 02:05:053 (1) - remove NC
24. 02:05:253 (2) - add NC
25. 02:05:253 (2,4) - strong notes and vocals are on the slider ends D: i would change it so its on the head so it fits the music
26. 02:11:453 (1) - remove NC
27. 02:11:853 (2) - add NC
28. 02:14:653 (1) - remove nc
29. 02:15:053 (2) - add nc

Kihhou wrote:

[kuroan's Normal]

1. 00:06:253 (3) - make 3 shorter and add a hitcircle at 00:07:053? feels and sounds better imo
2. 00:31:453 (2,3) - its hard to read stacked imo ><
3. 01:02:453 (5) - change to 2 hitcircles so the vocals arent captured by the weak slider tail?
4. 01:34:053 (2,3) - try this rhythm isntead? feels better imo. should NC at 01:35:053 if done
   
5. 01:41:453 (1) - i moused over it and was like "oh what in the hell" lol try this. its so much easier
   
   hue

   

Sallad4ever wrote:

I didn't map the beginning because it's quite similar with the chorus (but with slower pace). Considering that I don't map it cause I afraid it may made the chorus kinda repetitive, and player will be bored of it. I hope you understand it

Setsurei wrote:

@kuroan: edit bilang2, aku ga tau kapan kelarmu tiba2 udah ada aja filenya lol