just like you did on MS when I got speedlynched okDakeDekaane wrote:
My mention of Caligno is because he didn't post in D2 at all, I don't get why do you relate us. You better give me moar reasons on voting Tsukasa than just that flip-flop.
@NH: policy lynch if we can't agree on something.
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actually we should try to lynch ice scum today bc parity
vote: Caligno
gogogo
vote: Caligno
gogogo
tbh pieguy, i had a slight scumread on CTs-Th too after this and farto's flip:
i think i've never seen Caligno scum, but i'm sure i've never seen him lurking this much when he was town - his iso counts 15 posts and his last post was 8 days ago, cookie was modkilled for much less
NoHitter lurked a lot too, his play has something that reminds me of Higurashi Mafia
and DakeDekaane
also there are some of his d1 posts that made him ping scummy, like this one
vote: DakeDekaane
or maybe we should just ask for a Caligno modkill so we get an extra lynch if he's scum
p/2710511/ read the previous 2 posts toofartownik wrote:
Well, I wouldn't be too harsh to him. We don't want any players to lose interest in this game because not much people are willing to replace.
Sephibro, why do you even ask this question when you know it's his first game, meh.
i think i've never seen Caligno scum, but i'm sure i've never seen him lurking this much when he was town - his iso counts 15 posts and his last post was 8 days ago, cookie was modkilled for much less
NoHitter lurked a lot too, his play has something that reminds me of Higurashi Mafia
and DakeDekaane
this reminds me of NH's twilight post on pieguy's lynch in Higurashi (p/2680576)DakeDekaane wrote:
I wanted to hammer farto
I hate you rEdo.
also there are some of his d1 posts that made him ping scummy, like this one
I'm not supporting speedlynch on anyone but himDakeDekaane wrote:
Also FoS on rEdo for not sheeping like he usually does.
vote: DakeDekaane
or maybe we should just ask for a Caligno modkill so we get an extra lynch if he's scum
omg you guys made like 10 posts while i was writing this shit lol
Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
piescum pls
Also I didn't post there because the day was ended to fast >.>
idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
piescum pls
Also I didn't post there because the day was ended to fast >.>
idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.
>reading Tsukasa as null-town before farto's flipDakeDekaane wrote:
Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.
>changed read after farto's flipped scum and I saw how Tsukass was the only one voting off his wagon
conclusion: you are grasping at straws
and what makes you think that's not hte reason Caligno didn't post?DakeDekaane wrote:
Also I didn't post there because the day was ended to fast >.>
pieguy there's something wrong in your posts
1.
2.
1.
NO. with 2 1-man teams it's still 2 potential nk/night. if we wipe one team it's 1 nk/nightpieguy1372 wrote:
actually we should try to lynch ice scum today bc parity
2.
we can: nothing changes if he's town, but we get another lynch if he's scumpieguy1372 wrote:
we can't ask for modkills that's not how it works
currently 5-1-2
lynch fire scum -> 5-0-2 -> nk -> 4-0-2 and we still don't have any mislynches
lynch ice scum -> 5-1-1 -> nks -> 3-1-1 or possibly 4-0-1 and we gain more info and mb even a mislynch
lynch fire scum -> 5-0-2 -> nk -> 4-0-2 and we still don't have any mislynches
lynch ice scum -> 5-1-1 -> nks -> 3-1-1 or possibly 4-0-1 and we gain more info and mb even a mislynch
and I mean that literally a modkill won't be given out if we just ask for it
a mislynch.pieguy1372 wrote:
we gain more info and mb even a mislynch
ok.
uhm that's true on the first point
about the 2nd point, let's just ask Sakura
@mod: CalignoBot hasn't posted for 8 days, can he be modkilled?
about the 2nd point, let's just ask Sakura
@mod: CalignoBot hasn't posted for 8 days, can he be modkilled?
that means that it's not mylo if we get to 4-0-1DakeDekaane wrote:
a mislynch.pieguy1372 wrote:
we gain more info and mb even a mislynch
ok.
Topic Starter
CalignoBot has been modkilled he was a... joking
No because prod timer resets at the start of the day.
No because prod timer resets at the start of the day.
CalignoBot (1) - pieguy1372
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
Not Voting - rEdo, Tsukasa, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, NoHitter, Raging Bull
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
Not Voting - rEdo, Tsukasa, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, NoHitter, Raging Bull
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
@mod: so can he be modkilled if he doesn't post within 24 hours?
also Sakura
also Sakura
did you miss this or is my vote blocked today?Sephibro wrote:
vote: DakeDekaane
Topic Starter
1. He will be prodded if he doesnt post within 48 hours.Sephibro wrote:
@mod: so can he be modkilled if he doesn't post within 24 hours?
also Sakuradid you miss this or is my vote blocked today?Sephibro wrote:
vote: DakeDekaane
2. Yes I missed your vote sorry.
oh i meant if he doesn't post within 24 hs from his next prod
Topic Starter
In that case no, he would be replaced, unless a replacement cant be found then yes.
Posting that im here.
Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?
vote NH
Also surprised with only one NK. Both targetting cts seems likely than anything else.
So who was it who was watching me?
Also
@Mod:V/LA: about... 4 days? The only threat to my prelims is that darn solid mensuration anyways, so yeah 4 days
Noted
~Sakura
Also
@Mod:V/LA: about... 4 days? The only threat to my prelims is that darn solid mensuration anyways, so yeah 4 days
Noted
~Sakura
Raging Bull wrote:
Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?
Mod: Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?
Topic Starter
I already did.Raging Bull wrote:
Raging Bull wrote:
Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?
Mod: Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?
Hi guys.
Topic Starter
CTs-Th's body has stopped glowing, you may now use day active abilities again, but do so at your own risk.
Mod notes: You saw nothing.
CalignoBot (2) - pieguy1372, rEdo
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
NoHitter (1) - Raging Bull
Not Voting - rEdo, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, NoHitter, Tsukasa
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
NoHitter (1) - Raging Bull
Not Voting - rEdo, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, NoHitter, Tsukasa
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
Mod notes: You saw nothing.
Why vote calingo, redo and pieguy?
Topic Starter
The Sakura legacy of vote count derping lives on...
Countdown to deadline
CalignoBot (2) - pieguy1372, rEdo
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
NoHitter (1) - Raging Bull
Not Voting - DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, NoHitter, Tsukasa
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
NoHitter (1) - Raging Bull
Not Voting - DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, NoHitter, Tsukasa
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
Countdown to deadline
So yeah, I ended up forgetting about the game a while back until I got poked, but I lost internet for a couple days and couldn't access anything out of IRC and Skype.
Hold on while I read shit.
Hold on while I read shit.
If you guys want to lynch a blue mafia instead, go for NoHitter.
Okay, hold the fuck on.
Quick reread of D2 again makes me like this a lot more:
Unvote: rEdo
Vote: NoHitter
I'm willing to put rEdo on the backburner for the moment to get this obvscum gone, then readdress it later when the game is in better focus. NoHitter being blue scum is preferable, but I'm willing to accept him being red scum as well if it comes down to it.
Quick reread of D2 again makes me like this a lot more:
Unvote: rEdo
Vote: NoHitter
I'm willing to put rEdo on the backburner for the moment to get this obvscum gone, then readdress it later when the game is in better focus. NoHitter being blue scum is preferable, but I'm willing to accept him being red scum as well if it comes down to it.
hey Caligno why do you think scum shot CTs
and why NH
and why NH
@Caligno: Can you explain your reasoning?
Also, something urgent came up and I need to V/LA until Tuesday (I hope I'll be ok by then)
Also, something urgent came up and I need to V/LA until Tuesday (I hope I'll be ok by then)
Simply wanted to make him talk a bit. I didn't like how he voted me back with no back-up, thoughRaging Bull wrote:
Why vote calingo, redo and pieguy?
unvote
For now. Still fos on him.
For now. Still fos on him.
But he unvoted to vote for nhrEdo wrote:
Simply wanted to make him talk a bit. I didn't like how he voted me back with no back-up, thoughRaging Bull wrote:
Why vote calingo, redo and pieguy?
Topic Starter
Sephibro and DakeDekaane have been prodded
Also if activity remains this low im going to move the deadline down!
Also if activity remains this low im going to move the deadline down!
You don't vote a person who hasn't posted in a week waiting for a reaction/he popping out immediately, you ask to prod them.
I could go into this big post about it, but it basically comes down to how you're playing this game. You're trying really hard not to become a target to pretty much anyone. I know you're smart enough to figure out the best strategy for this type of game for scum... which is to not stand out and become a mostly null-read in everyone's eyes. This type of play is pretty much a direct summary of your play.NoHitter wrote:
@Caligno: Can you explain your reasoning?
Also, something urgent came up and I need to V/LA until Tuesday (I hope I'll be ok by then)
My reads will update accordingly depending on what you flip, but I fully expect you to flip blue scum.
Because until I read back through D2 a second time, you were standing out really hard as farto's most likely partner.rEdo wrote:
Simply wanted to make him talk a bit. I didn't like how he voted me back with no back-up, thoughRaging Bull wrote:
Why vote calingo, redo and pieguy?
farto and rEdo are bros all the time just saying
if there's anything specific you have while keeping this in mind I'm interested in knowing plz
if there's anything specific you have while keeping this in mind I'm interested in knowing plz
CTs-Th wrote:
Oh hi again. Nice to see you all. XD
As you know, I was nightkilled last night. I guess they chose me because I'm a newbie, and that's the way they can get rid of a vote to them. (Since I just follow somebody's vote. XD)
And ugh, CalignoBot looked annoying lately. I suspect that he'd be a Fire Scum. (Sorry for offensive, but yeah you did.)
Tsukasa looks so town IMO. I trusted that rEdo is town, considered his double vote can take some scum out. (And even help us lynch farto) But if he harms town, we can take him out later.
NoHitter, Dake, Sephi and RB? I didn't focus much on them.
So here's my opinion: (names may stack, don't mind it, it just a possibility.)
Town (I trusted): pieguy, Tsukasa, Sephibro, rEdo, maybe... Dake?
Fire scum (possible): CalignoBot, Tsukasa, and everybody else who didn't vote farto in D2.
Ice scum (possible): NoHitter, rEdo, and somebody who voted farto in D2. <<< Not Caligno for sure.
Finally, I'm watching you...
I tend to completely disregard all meta that I don't have significant personal experience in, so this doesn't change shit for me.pieguy1372 wrote:
farto and rEdo are bros all the time just saying
if there's anything specific you have while keeping this in mind I'm interested in knowing plz
Im not a read for cts thanks. I feel the love
cuz u bully 
That makes me ISO NH
aaaaa
That makes me ISO NH
aaaaa
wait whatpieguy1372 wrote:
CTs-Th wrote:
Oh hi again. Nice to see you all. XD
As you know, I was nightkilled last night. I guess they chose me because I'm a newbie, and that's the way they can get rid of a vote to them. (Since I just follow somebody's vote. XD)
And ugh, CalignoBot looked annoying lately. I suspect that he'd be a Fire Scum. (Sorry for offensive, but yeah you did.)
Tsukasa looks so town IMO. I trusted that rEdo is town, considered his double vote can take some scum out. (And even help us lynch farto) But if he harms town, we can take him out later.
NoHitter, Dake, Sephi and RB? I didn't focus much on them.
So here's my opinion: (names may stack, don't mind it, it just a possibility.
Town (I trusted): pieguy, Tsukasa, Sephibro, rEdo, maybe... Dake?
Fire scum (possible): CalignoBot, Tsukasa, and everybody else who didn't vote farto in D2.
Ice scum (possible): NoHitter, rEdo, and somebody who voted farto in D2. <<< Not Caligno for sure.
Finally, I'm watching you...
I made a huge post this morning, pressed Post and suddenly
now i want to die irl
I'll try to write something like that again when i get home in ~5 hours - please wait for me
in the meantime i'll just rewrite this part
now i want to die irl
I'll try to write something like that again when i get home in ~5 hours - please wait for me
in the meantime i'll just rewrite this part
it feels strange something like that to be allowed, but I don't think pieguy's post is breaking the rules, so probably CTs-Th can communicate by pm with another player after his death and this player is allowed to share it on the topicSakura wrote:
General Rules:
- Do not quote anything from the PMs given to you by the mod.
- Do not communicate outside of this thread unless your role PM allows you to.
- Dead players cannot post, but may make a bah post without revealing any game content in the following day phase.
Current reads because I feel like it:
Town: pieguy1372, DakeDekaane
Fire Scum: rEdo
Ice Scum: Sephibro, Tsukasa
Either Scum: NoHitter, Raging Bull
These are what I feel are most likely for each person.
BTW: After some more thinking, I have come to the conclusion that it's town's best interests in general that we lynch ice scum over fire scum. I see virtually no advantages to the opposite.
RE: CTs: I'm assuming it's genuine until it's proven not to be.
Town: pieguy1372, DakeDekaane
Fire Scum: rEdo
Ice Scum: Sephibro, Tsukasa
Either Scum: NoHitter, Raging Bull
These are what I feel are most likely for each person.
BTW: After some more thinking, I have come to the conclusion that it's town's best interests in general that we lynch ice scum over fire scum. I see virtually no advantages to the opposite.
RE: CTs: I'm assuming it's genuine until it's proven not to be.
How is it possible you listed 3 scum already and then you list NH and I as potential scum?
Topic Starter
Explorer: Sir, there is certainly a lack of balance between the cold and heat today...
Mayor: Yes indeed
Explorer: What could this mean sir.
Mayor: Probably that one team is losing...
Countdown till deadline
Mayor: Yes indeed
Explorer: What could this mean sir.
Mayor: Probably that one team is losing...
CalignoBot (2) - pieguy1372, rEdo
NoHitter (1) - CalignoBot
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
Not Voting - DakeDekaane, NoHitter, Tsukasa, Raging Bull
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
NoHitter (1) - CalignoBot
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
Not Voting - DakeDekaane, NoHitter, Tsukasa, Raging Bull
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
Countdown till deadline
are you kidding meCalignoBot wrote:
Current reads because I feel like it:
Town: pieguy1372, DakeDekaane
wow I was right it really was Dake + Caligno
explain these two townreads plz
Prod dodge.
Pieguy, how come that you've posted that huge wall of text that apparenly is CTs' work?
Pieguy, how come that you've posted that huge wall of text that apparenly is CTs' work?
CTs originally posted it
and I reposted it
and I reposted it
game's p much solved though
Caligno and Dake are ice scum
and then there's only one fire scum left and it's probably Tsukass and if it's not then we can almost certainly figure out who it is
Caligno and Dake are ice scum
and then there's only one fire scum left and it's probably Tsukass and if it's not then we can almost certainly figure out who it is
btw you all are free to ask CTs anything
being able to talk with a conftown doesn't happen everyday o/
being able to talk with a conftown doesn't happen everyday o/
basically my reads didn't change from the beginning of the day
At this point, i think mafia are probably DakeDekaane, CalignoBot and NoHitter
but i have no idea who's fire and who's ice
At this point, i think mafia are probably DakeDekaane, CalignoBot and NoHitter
but i have no idea who's fire and who's ice
You're literally only in the town list because of the lack of info on who else is scum yet. You're far from a strong town read in my eyes.pieguy1372 wrote:
are you kidding meCalignoBot wrote:
Current reads because I feel like it:
Town: pieguy1372, DakeDekaane
wow I was right it really was Dake + Caligno
explain these two townreads plz
DakeDekaane is there because I really don't see how he can be either.
Plus, you not seeing NoHitter as scum is pretty awful. You jump up to #1 ice scum possibility if he's ice scum.
Why post twice?CalignoBot wrote:
Raging Bull: reads
Anyways i know they are reads but if you read three scum already, why add even more people you think might be scum?
pieguy1372 wrote:
btw you all are free to ask CTs anything
being able to talk with a conftown doesn't happen everyday o/
Cts is potentially a tree stump?
The second one was actually me telling you to state yours. Your opinions on who is ice/fire will be a huge help.Raging Bull wrote:
Why post twice?CalignoBot wrote:
Raging Bull: reads
Anyways i know they are reads but if you read three scum already, why add even more people you think might be scum?
Dake is like obvtown. I don't understand why people are thinking he's scum.
no this isn't gonna cut itCalignoBot wrote:
Dake is like obvtown. I don't understand why people are thinking he's scum.
why is Dake apparently "obvtown"
you're scum who's BS'ing reads aren't you
CTs-Th wrote:
I'm here again, glad to see you guys freaks out.
I have to admit that I didn't focus on RB much this game. I didn't even mention him once.
I got a very little information, but with collaboration with pieguy. I can think of something.
Okay, first of all. Let's take a look at this one: p/2740927/
It was posted by Caligno, right? He puts every body in the table as he reads, except him. He didn't puts himself in it. So I just wanna ask you: "Where are you in that table?"
FoS: CalignoBot
Second, here's my read: (and again, name may stack because it's a possibility.)
Town: pieguy, rEdo, RB, Sephi, Dake?, and... Tsukasa? (Absent so long...)
Fire Scum: rEdo, RB (not sure), NoHitter, Dake?, and even CalignoBot is possible. +who didn't vote farto.
Ice Scum: Caligno (#1 suspect.), NoHitter (Considered CB's post.), Dake here too, and... who vote farto.
(^^^ I'm also confused myself.)
One more thing I want you guys to consider: I noticed that CB barely mention Dake, or did he avoided mentioning him? Now I just think that "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is replaced with "Dake-Caligno scum buddies 2013" is better. ^ ^
FoS: Dake <<< In fact I've already push him on D1.
Finally, sorry for long post. I can't post frequently because I'm not the one who post this. pieguy did. So I made this long to get several topic. You can ask me, but don't expected much to get answer. (I didn't get any extra information from dying. XD) And correct me if I'm worng too.
Bye now, I'm watching you...
Are we sharing reads? I should share reads too.
My townreads are in RB and Sephibro. I can't see RB as scum and Sephi hasn't made anything that make him look scummy besides going with the flow and suspecting me.
Everyone else is possible scum. This two guys are less likely to be scum.
pieguy is the least likely to be scum, why? If this ability is of his, is way too OP for scum imo. But if this is CTs' ability, pieguy is more likely to be scum
rEdo because maybe.
The rest has a high chance of being scum, after re-re-reading the thread, I'm ok with lynching any of these guys.
NH, Caligno and Tsukasa.
Me ofc is town, whoever that puts a vote on me if a wagon starts is likely scum.
And yes, I also want to know why I'm obvtown Caligno.
My townreads are in RB and Sephibro. I can't see RB as scum and Sephi hasn't made anything that make him look scummy besides going with the flow and suspecting me.
Everyone else is possible scum. This two guys are less likely to be scum.
pieguy is the least likely to be scum, why? If this ability is of his, is way too OP for scum imo. But if this is CTs' ability, pieguy is more likely to be scum
rEdo because maybe.
The rest has a high chance of being scum, after re-re-reading the thread, I'm ok with lynching any of these guys.
NH, Caligno and Tsukasa.
Me ofc is town, whoever that puts a vote on me if a wagon starts is likely scum.
And yes, I also want to know why I'm obvtown Caligno.
this looks like a contraddiction to meDakeDekaane wrote:
Me ofc is town, whoever that puts a vote on me if a wagon starts is likely scum.
And yes, I also want to know why I'm obvtown Caligno.
btw, i would like rEdo, NoHitter and Raging Bull to share their reads too
@mod: prod NoHitter pls
I will do once I'm not busy with stuff, this week's going to be tough due to school and stuff. However, I am willing to spend an hour on analysis of all this soon. Prod dodge for now Q_QSephibro wrote:
this looks like a contraddiction to meDakeDekaane wrote:
Me ofc is town, whoever that puts a vote on me if a wagon starts is likely scum.
And yes, I also want to know why I'm obvtown Caligno.
btw, i would like rEdo, NoHitter and Raging Bull to share their reads too
@mod: prod NoHitter pls
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
Cts-Th: ...really? What does me not putting myself in my reads list have to do with anything? Your statement about me barely mentioning Dake doesn't really have any weight either. Just ISO me and see how meaningless that is.
There's another very telling thing going on right now... I'll go do an analysis and come back on that.
Cts-Th: ...really? What does me not putting myself in my reads list have to do with anything? Your statement about me barely mentioning Dake doesn't really have any weight either. Just ISO me and see how meaningless that is.
There's another very telling thing going on right now... I'll go do an analysis and come back on that.
Reverse the situation and I literally see the exact same thing. Both seeing NoHitter as apparently town and Dake as scum completely boggles my mind.pieguy1372 wrote:
no this isn't gonna cut itCalignoBot wrote:
Dake is like obvtown. I don't understand why people are thinking he's scum.
why is Dake apparently "obvtown"
you're scum who's BS'ing reads aren't you
hint: this is a strong as hell associative between you two :>CalignoBot wrote:
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
I don't understand this. can you explain further plzCalignoBot wrote:
Reverse the situation and I literally see the exact same thing. Both seeing NoHitter as apparently town and Dake as scum completely boggles my mind.
Topic Starter
NoHitter is V/LA and so he cant be proddedSephibro wrote:
@mod: prod NoHitter pls
CalignoBot (2) - pieguy1372, rEdo
NoHitter (1) - CalignoBot
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
Not Voting - DakeDekaane, NoHitter, Tsukasa, Raging Bull
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
NoHitter (1) - CalignoBot
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
Not Voting - DakeDekaane, NoHitter, Tsukasa, Raging Bull
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
Countdown until deadline
actually, can you further elaborate on this? what firm statements has he made? also, why do you think this is necessarily a towntell?CalignoBot wrote:
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
Ok so I do think my V/LA is up and I can't abuse it anymore
I promise I'll be not lazy to reread the game after my 2 other tests and be more active. Since christmas break
I promise I'll be not lazy to reread the game after my 2 other tests and be more active. Since christmas break
Town: rEdo, Tsukasa
Null: pieguy, sephibro
Fire Scum: Dake
Ice: NH, Calingo
but nevermind that, vote NH when he gets back.
Null: pieguy, sephibro
Fire Scum: Dake
Ice: NH, Calingo
but nevermind that, vote NH when he gets back.
if you're trying to get people to vote NH then why isn't your vote on NH?
Feels unfair to vote someone who cant defend themselves due to issues. I did vote for him in the beginning until he went v la
I want you to seriously consider this question: Do you really believe this?pieguy1372 wrote:
hint: this is a strong as hell associative between you two :>CalignoBot wrote:
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
That was referencing "you're scum who's BS'ing reads aren't you"pieguy1372 wrote:
I don't understand this. can you explain further plzCalignoBot wrote:
Reverse the situation and I literally see the exact same thing. Both seeing NoHitter as apparently town and Dake as scum completely boggles my mind.
Okay, let me just post a wall of quotes:pieguy1372 wrote:
actually, can you further elaborate on this? what firm statements has he made? also, why do you think this is necessarily a towntell?CalignoBot wrote:
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
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DakeDekaane wrote:
Also pieguy, why do you vote farto when he's clearly trying to put an end to RVS as quick as possible, we have plenty of time, but that's not reason to goof around.
I originally got major scumvibes off this post, but that has been virtually negated combined with the rest of his ISO.DakeDekaane wrote:
^scum pls
Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy
We could basically spend all D1 in RVS without any sign of "ending naturally", better starting discussion as soon as possible, lefting very few spots for scum to play around, don't you think?
Incredibly weak, but still clearly unafraid to make his stances known.DakeDekaane wrote:
Also FoS on rEdo for not sheeping like he usually does.
Basically a firm declaration that the wagons suck.DakeDekaane wrote:
So what's the reason of lynching Irre over Cookie? Both are absent (Cookie would be replaced and Irre is V/LA). I can think in both wagons being opportunistic as they're pretty much going over inactive people, it's true this may be lurking but I'm not sure at all.
Same as above but only with the Cookie wagon.DakeDekaane wrote:
Just posting I'm alive and waiting for this situation to be cleared, as speedlynching us clearly bad.
I shouldn't have to explain this.DakeDekaane wrote:
I'm up to hammer fanderwik, if he's not scum then go for pieguy. Thanks.
This either.DakeDekaane wrote:
1 kill, looks nice, but I can't relate it atm.
pieguy rushing as always.
Is Caligno even in the game?
Today we are lynching pieguy/rEdo.
Just more firm stances.DakeDekaane wrote:
Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
piescum pls
Also I didn't post there because the day was ended to fast >.>
idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.
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The majority of the rest of his posts are either defending himself when he was being attacked and just fluff, which is inherently null.
As for why this is a towntell, I basically already explained it when I explained why NoHitter is obvscum. Mafia's most optimal strategy is to be as null a read in the general populace as possible. If you're going to be playing like the way Dake is, you're going to go in either direction guaranteed. I fully believe even inexperienced scum players would be wary of the opposite scum team enough to subconsciously try to shy away from any chance of being targetted for a kill.
...That means not risking being a possible town leader.
Raging Bull you'd prefer your vote to be useless than put someone at L-3?
Dake is scum bc he's being a giant lurkfuck. it's a meta read
NH was null-town but he's closer to null for me atm
i fyou think I'm BS'ing reads then why do you have me in your townpile. scared of not having enough townreads?
I could respond but basically everything you quoted I don't see how he couldn't say as scum. he's far from a town leader in just about everyone's eyes and I don't think there was any risk of him being a town leader.especially with me in the game and how in information mafia I lead everyone after the game went stale only for rEdo to vote me for absolutely no reason 
in particular, this
and
can we speedlynch this guy plz
NH was null-town but he's closer to null for me atm
i fyou think I'm BS'ing reads then why do you have me in your townpile. scared of not having enough townreads?
I could respond but basically everything you quoted I don't see how he couldn't say as scum. he's far from a town leader in just about everyone's eyes and I don't think there was any risk of him being a town leader.
in particular, this
I shouldn't have to explain this.is not alignment indicative bc Dake is probably ice scum so ofc he's going to hammer a fire scum. and even if he's fire scum fandw was quite clearly about to be lynched so he didn't really have a choice
and
This either.that's hardly a "firm stance". he doesn't give any reasons for any of them
Just more firm stances.I see false logic and waffling about what Sephi said. this is, again, hardly a firm stance
can we speedlynch this guy plz
also I love how you started to bus Dake at the start of the game bc you love bussing your teammates
but then you realized how suicidal it was in a setup like this and did a complete 180 ~
but then you realized how suicidal it was in a setup like this and did a complete 180 ~
You people would know I don't have a "defined meta", so meta arguments are weak against me, if that's all the case you have on me, you took the wrong way.
Why is the way how i vote even bothering you? I still am going to vote nh. I was the one who even voted him first. Seems like you really want him dead as long as it isnt your partnerCalignoBot wrote:
Raging Bull you'd prefer your vote to be useless than put someone at L-3?
Read my ISO again.pieguy1372 wrote:
i fyou think I'm BS'ing reads then why do you have me in your townpile. scared of not having enough townreads?
In case you're lazy: You were only placed there because I was very interested in NoHitter's flip before classifying you one way or the other. I'd rather not support a lynch on you until then.
That wasn't as much a concrete point as it was a generalization. Being very active and helping drive the playerlist to a consensus kind of makes a time where you want to lay low stand out a fuckton more which would completely defeat the purpose of trying to do this in the first place.pieguy1372 wrote:
I could respond but basically everything you quoted I don't see how he couldn't say as scum. he's far from a town leader in just about everyone's eyes and I don't think there was any risk of him being a town leader.especially with me in the game and how in information mafia I lead everyone after the game went stale only for rEdo to vote me for absolutely no reason
This is complete nonsense. You seem to be under the assumption that if he was ice scum, he would know that fartownik was fire scum. So... why exactly would he hold back again on a target that pretty much everyone else active at that point was calling for the head of?pieguy wrote:
in particular, thisI shouldn't have to explain this.is not alignment indicative bc Dake is probably ice scum so ofc he's going to hammer a fire scum. and even if he's fire scum fandw was quite clearly about to be lynched so he didn't really have a choice
Also, congratulations on pretty much eliminating the possibility of Dake being fire scum. The partner's best play would easily have been to be on the wagon while he basically threw away his chance to.
Again, nonsense. Just because he doesn't give reasons doesn't mean it's not a firm stance. If you basically lock yourself into a single perspective that would look incredibly awkward to back out of, it's a firm stance.pieguy1372 wrote:
andThis either.that's hardly a "firm stance". he doesn't give any reasons for any of them
Go into more detail here.pieguy1372 wrote:
Just more firm stances.I see false logic and waffling about what Sephi said. this is, again, hardly a firm stance
This would be a lot more convincing if I had posted close to anything about Dake before you asked me why I thought he was town.pieguy1372 wrote:
also I love how you started to bus Dake at the start of the game bc you love bussing your teammates
but then you realized how suicidal it was in a setup like this and did a complete 180 ~
You talk about voting him a lot for someone who isn't voting for anyone. It's even worse when he's L-4.Raging Bull wrote:
Why is the way how i vote even bothering you? I still am going to vote nh. I was the one who even voted him first. Seems like you really want him dead as long as it isnt your partnerCalignoBot wrote:
Raging Bull you'd prefer your vote to be useless than put someone at L-3?
You talk a lot for someone who wasnt here for half the game
How does this have any relevance to anything.Raging Bull wrote:
You talk a lot for someone who wasnt here for half the game
Oh now you read. I keep saying that im not voting for someone who is v/la.
And you're using that as an excuse to do pretty much nothing. If you're just going to vote him as soon as he's back from V/LA, then what exactly is the point of not voting him now?
Why do you want me to vote him so bad? And it's the exactly the same thing reverse. If I'm going to vote him later, why vote right now? You're the one doing nothing besides rebuttle crap and trying to look town by pressuring people to vote.
hes' really not "driving the playerlist to a consensus"CalignoBot wrote:
That wasn't as much a concrete point as it was a generalization. Being very active and helping drive the playerlist to a consensus kind of makes a time where you want to lay low stand out a fuckton more which would completely defeat the purpose of trying to do this in the first place.
bc he knows it's not his partnerCalignoBot wrote:
This is complete nonsense. You seem to be under the assumption that if he was ice scum, he would know that fartownik was fire scum. So... why exactly would he hold back again on a target that pretty much everyone else active at that point was calling for the head of?
what I'm saying is, the fact that he hammered scum is irrelevant
plz don't make random assumptionsCalignoBot wrote:
Also, congratulations on pretty much eliminating the possibility of Dake being fire scum. The partner's best play would easily have been to be on the wagon while he basically threw away his chance to.
1. no it means nothing if you don't back it upCalignoBot wrote:
Again, nonsense. Just because he doesn't give reasons doesn't mean it's not a firm stance. If you basically lock yourself into a single perspective that would look incredibly awkward to back out of, it's a firm stance.
2. oh yeah sure like ou did with dake obvscum and then dake obvtown
CalignoBot wrote:
Go into more detail here.
Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.both of these are false logic
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.this isn't even definitely saying anything
this is a blatant lie and you know itCalignoBot wrote:
This would be a lot more convincing if I had posted close to anything about Dake before you asked me why I thought he was town.
remember on the start near page 6 or w/e? you were calling dake scum there
Pushing out your own opinions instead of just muddying the waters all over the place helps drive a consensus.pieguy1372 wrote:
hes' really not "driving the playerlist to a consensus"CalignoBot wrote:
That wasn't as much a concrete point as it was a generalization. Being very active and helping drive the playerlist to a consensus kind of makes a time where you want to lay low stand out a fuckton more which would completely defeat the purpose of trying to do this in the first place.
You didn't even address my point.pieguy1372 wrote:
bc he knows it's not his partnerCalignoBot wrote:
This is complete nonsense. You seem to be under the assumption that if he was ice scum, he would know that fartownik was fire scum. So... why exactly would he hold back again on a target that pretty much everyone else active at that point was calling for the head of?
what I'm saying is, the fact that he hammered scum is irrelevant
Tell me why any scum wouldn't want to lynch their partner when it's basically inevitable that they'll be lynched anyway. I can't think of any whatsoever.pieguy1372 wrote:
plz don't make random assumptionsCalignoBot wrote:
Also, congratulations on pretty much eliminating the possibility of Dake being fire scum. The partner's best play would easily have been to be on the wagon while he basically threw away his chance to.
1. You basically said the exact same thing as before without addressing my point.pieguy1372 wrote:
1. no it means nothing if you don't back it upCalignoBot wrote:
Again, nonsense. Just because he doesn't give reasons doesn't mean it's not a firm stance. If you basically lock yourself into a single perspective that would look incredibly awkward to back out of, it's a firm stance.
2. oh yeah sure like ou did with dake obvscum and then dake obvtown
2. This point is so terrible that I almost don't want to even bother responding to it. It's manipulating a point to try to use it against me, then just ignoring convenient facts in order to make it sound stronger.
a. Go look into my early game play over several games, then tell me what you find.
b. I was already clearly rethinking my stances around the time I forgot about the game. It wasn't a "complete 180" as you had said earlier and implied here.
c. 1.5 game phases had happened between those two stances, the beginning of which was in day one. The sheer amount of information difference between those two points is heavily significant in how reads develop.
d.
CalignoBot wrote:
Go into more detail here.
Actually, that post is incredibly accurate now that I took the time to actually look at it. You overreacted horrifically to that single point (saying he "flailed all over the place to derail the farto wagon" when all he did was vote Sephibro for bad reads) when not only was he supporting the fartownik wagon earlier in that game day, but also gave no indication whatsoever that he had changed his mind in that post. Your rebuttal to this point only makes it stronger. I'll let you figure out how by yourself.pieguy1372 wrote:
Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.both of these are false logic
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
So yes, that is not false logic at all. He could've very easily went into more detail, but that point in of itself is solid.
There's not exactly close to anything he could have said to the opposite with what he was given.pieguy1372 wrote:
idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.this isn't even definitely saying anything
You know full well I meant after I came back and started playing again.pieguy1372 wrote:
this is a blatant lie and you know itCalignoBot wrote:
This would be a lot more convincing if I had posted close to anything about Dake before you asked me why I thought he was town.
remember on the start near page 6 or w/e? you were calling dake scum there
Your posts have been nothing but promising a vote on NoHitter after he comes back from V/LA (fake pressure) and trying to spin me calling you out on it into me being scum while withholding your vote (more fake pressure).Raging Bull wrote:
Why do you want me to vote him so bad? And it's the exactly the same thing reverse. If I'm going to vote him later, why vote right now? You're the one doing nothing besides rebuttle crap and trying to look town by pressuring people to vote.