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pieguyn

DakeDekaane wrote:

1 kill, looks nice, but I can't relate it atm.
pieguy rushing as always.
Is Caligno even in the game?

Today we are lynching pieguy/rEdo.
go away :)

you're mad because I didn't let you fuck with everyone on D2. your inclusion of me in your lynch pool is opportunistic as fuck and doesn't take into account the true intent behind any of my actions. you saw I want to ramp up the speed of the game and think "oh, that might be smth that could be scummy. I need smth to scumread so this is as good as anything". you're not legitimately scumhunting

and your mention of Caligno is subliminally distancing yourself from your partner

scum: Caligno, Dake, Tsukass

game solved, speedwagons plz
pieguyn
NH that is not a vote for Tsukass
NoHitter
Also Sephi is pretty much confirmed town, or at least not part of farto's team. You're practically setting whoever you claim to be your partner as investigation bait.
pieguyn
that is WIFOM. stop paying attention to the WIFOM and help me speedlynch Tsukass o/
NoHitter

pieguy1372 wrote:

NH that is not a vote for Tsukass
Need to reread Tsukasa's posts before I consider a vote.
I'm not exactly supporting your speedlynching.
pieguyn
not supporting speedlynches
helped speedlynch fartownik

what the hell NH you better not be scum :cry:
NoHitter
*I'm not exactly supporting your speedlynching without any solid case on the person.

Sorry forgot to add that last part.
A good case has already been presented against farto at that point, and I agreed that he was scummy.
DakeDekaane
My mention of Caligno is because he didn't post in D2 at all, I don't get why do you relate us. You better give me moar reasons on voting Tsukasa than just that flip-flop.

@NH: policy lynch if we can't agree on something.
pieguyn
my case against Tsukass is he was flailing all over the place trying to derail the farto speedlynch

sure, bussing exists, but it's practically suicide with a 2 man scumteam

see my posts near the start of the day for an example
pieguyn

DakeDekaane wrote:

My mention of Caligno is because he didn't post in D2 at all, I don't get why do you relate us. You better give me moar reasons on voting Tsukasa than just that flip-flop.

@NH: policy lynch if we can't agree on something.
just like you did on MS when I got speedlynched ok
pieguyn
actually we should try to lynch ice scum today bc parity
vote: Caligno
gogogo
Sephibro
tbh pieguy, i had a slight scumread on CTs-Th too after this and farto's flip:

fartownik wrote:

Well, I wouldn't be too harsh to him. We don't want any players to lose interest in this game because not much people are willing to replace.

Sephibro, why do you even ask this question when you know it's his first game, meh.
p/2710511/ read the previous 2 posts too


i think i've never seen Caligno scum, but i'm sure i've never seen him lurking this much when he was town - his iso counts 15 posts and his last post was 8 days ago, cookie was modkilled for much less


NoHitter lurked a lot too, his play has something that reminds me of Higurashi Mafia


and DakeDekaane

DakeDekaane wrote:

I wanted to hammer farto :(
I hate you rEdo.
this reminds me of NH's twilight post on pieguy's lynch in Higurashi (p/2680576)
also there are some of his d1 posts that made him ping scummy, like this one

DakeDekaane wrote:

Also FoS on rEdo for not sheeping like he usually does.
I'm not supporting speedlynch on anyone but him


vote: DakeDekaane
or maybe we should just ask for a Caligno modkill so we get an extra lynch if he's scum
Sephibro
omg you guys made like 10 posts while i was writing this shit lol
pieguyn
no. we're speedlynching Caligno

Caligno as scum t/148280

we can't ask for modkills that's not how it works

mb I'm just pissed off bc I had the best townread on CTs and they had to go and fucking shoot him =.=
DakeDekaane
Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
piescum pls
Also I didn't post there because the day was ended to fast >.>

idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.
pieguyn

DakeDekaane wrote:

Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.
>reading Tsukasa as null-town before farto's flip
>changed read after farto's flipped scum and I saw how Tsukass was the only one voting off his wagon
conclusion: you are grasping at straws


DakeDekaane wrote:

Also I didn't post there because the day was ended to fast >.>
and what makes you think that's not hte reason Caligno didn't post?
Sephibro
pieguy there's something wrong in your posts
1.

pieguy1372 wrote:

actually we should try to lynch ice scum today bc parity
NO. with 2 1-man teams it's still 2 potential nk/night. if we wipe one team it's 1 nk/night
2.

pieguy1372 wrote:

we can't ask for modkills that's not how it works
we can: nothing changes if he's town, but we get another lynch if he's scum
pieguyn
currently 5-1-2
lynch fire scum -> 5-0-2 -> nk -> 4-0-2 and we still don't have any mislynches
lynch ice scum -> 5-1-1 -> nks -> 3-1-1 or possibly 4-0-1 and we gain more info and mb even a mislynch
pieguyn
and I mean that literally a modkill won't be given out if we just ask for it
DakeDekaane

pieguy1372 wrote:

we gain more info and mb even a mislynch
a mislynch.
ok.
Sephibro
uhm that's true on the first point
about the 2nd point, let's just ask Sakura

@mod: CalignoBot hasn't posted for 8 days, can he be modkilled?
Sephibro

DakeDekaane wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

we gain more info and mb even a mislynch
a mislynch.
ok.
that means that it's not mylo if we get to 4-0-1
Topic Starter
Sakura
CalignoBot has been modkilled he was a... joking

No because prod timer resets at the start of the day.

CalignoBot (1) - pieguy1372
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro

Not Voting - rEdo, Tsukasa, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, NoHitter, Raging Bull

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
Sephibro
@mod: so can he be modkilled if he doesn't post within 24 hours?

also Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

vote: DakeDekaane
did you miss this or is my vote blocked today?
Topic Starter
Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

@mod: so can he be modkilled if he doesn't post within 24 hours?

also Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

vote: DakeDekaane
did you miss this or is my vote blocked today?
1. He will be prodded if he doesnt post within 48 hours.
2. Yes I missed your vote sorry.
Sephibro
oh i meant if he doesn't post within 24 hs from his next prod
Topic Starter
Sakura
In that case no, he would be replaced, unless a replacement cant be found then yes.
Raging Bull
Posting that im here.
Raging Bull
Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?
Raging Bull
vote NH
Raging Bull
Also surprised with only one NK. Both targetting cts seems likely than anything else.
Tsukasa
Guys stop watching me watch hentai :V
Tsukasa
So who was it who was watching me?

Also

@Mod:V/LA: about... 4 days? The only threat to my prelims is that darn solid mensuration anyways, so yeah 4 days

Noted
~Sakura
rEdo
Vote: CalignoBot
Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?


Mod: Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?
Topic Starter
Sakura

Raging Bull wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?


Mod: Cant you just poke calingo since he hasnt posted at all d2?
I already did.
Raging Bull
Hi guys.
Topic Starter
Sakura
CTs-Th's body has stopped glowing, you may now use day active abilities again, but do so at your own risk.

CalignoBot (2) - pieguy1372, rEdo
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
NoHitter (1) - Raging Bull

Not Voting - rEdo, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, NoHitter, Tsukasa

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Mod notes: You saw nothing.
rEdo

rEdo wrote:

Vote: CalignoBot
Sakura game at its finest
Raging Bull
Why vote calingo, redo and pieguy?
Topic Starter
Sakura
The Sakura legacy of vote count derping lives on...

CalignoBot (2) - pieguy1372, rEdo
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro
NoHitter (1) - Raging Bull

Not Voting - DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, NoHitter, Tsukasa

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Countdown to deadline
Amianki
So yeah, I ended up forgetting about the game a while back until I got poked, but I lost internet for a couple days and couldn't access anything out of IRC and Skype.

Hold on while I read shit.
Amianki
Vote: rEdo
Amianki
If you guys want to lynch a blue mafia instead, go for NoHitter.
Amianki
Okay, hold the fuck on.

Quick reread of D2 again makes me like this a lot more:

Unvote: rEdo
Vote: NoHitter

I'm willing to put rEdo on the backburner for the moment to get this obvscum gone, then readdress it later when the game is in better focus. NoHitter being blue scum is preferable, but I'm willing to accept him being red scum as well if it comes down to it.
pieguyn
hey Caligno why do you think scum shot CTs

and why NH
NoHitter
@Caligno: Can you explain your reasoning?
Also, something urgent came up and I need to V/LA until Tuesday (I hope I'll be ok by then)
rEdo

Raging Bull wrote:

Why vote calingo, redo and pieguy?
Simply wanted to make him talk a bit. I didn't like how he voted me back with no back-up, though >:(
Raging Bull
unvote

For now. Still fos on him.

rEdo wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Why vote calingo, redo and pieguy?
Simply wanted to make him talk a bit. I didn't like how he voted me back with no back-up, though >:(
But he unvoted to vote for nh
Topic Starter
Sakura
Sephibro and DakeDekaane have been prodded

Also if activity remains this low im going to move the deadline down!
DakeDekaane
You don't vote a person who hasn't posted in a week waiting for a reaction/he popping out immediately, you ask to prod them.
Amianki

NoHitter wrote:

@Caligno: Can you explain your reasoning?
Also, something urgent came up and I need to V/LA until Tuesday (I hope I'll be ok by then)
I could go into this big post about it, but it basically comes down to how you're playing this game. You're trying really hard not to become a target to pretty much anyone. I know you're smart enough to figure out the best strategy for this type of game for scum... which is to not stand out and become a mostly null-read in everyone's eyes. This type of play is pretty much a direct summary of your play.

My reads will update accordingly depending on what you flip, but I fully expect you to flip blue scum.
Amianki

rEdo wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Why vote calingo, redo and pieguy?
Simply wanted to make him talk a bit. I didn't like how he voted me back with no back-up, though >:(
Because until I read back through D2 a second time, you were standing out really hard as farto's most likely partner.
pieguyn
farto and rEdo are bros all the time just saying

if there's anything specific you have while keeping this in mind I'm interested in knowing plz
pieguyn

CTs-Th wrote:

Oh hi again. Nice to see you all. XD
As you know, I was nightkilled last night. I guess they chose me because I'm a newbie, and that's the way they can get rid of a vote to them. (Since I just follow somebody's vote. XD)
And ugh, CalignoBot looked annoying lately. I suspect that he'd be a Fire Scum. (Sorry for offensive, but yeah you did.)
Tsukasa looks so town IMO. I trusted that rEdo is town, considered his double vote can take some scum out. (And even help us lynch farto) But if he harms town, we can take him out later.
NoHitter, Dake, Sephi and RB? I didn't focus much on them.
So here's my opinion: (names may stack, don't mind it, it just a possibility. :P)
Town (I trusted): pieguy, Tsukasa, Sephibro, rEdo, maybe... Dake?
Fire scum (possible): CalignoBot, Tsukasa, and everybody else who didn't vote farto in D2.
Ice scum (possible): NoHitter, rEdo, and somebody who voted farto in D2. <<< Not Caligno for sure.
Finally, I'm watching you...
Amianki

pieguy1372 wrote:

farto and rEdo are bros all the time just saying

if there's anything specific you have while keeping this in mind I'm interested in knowing plz
I tend to completely disregard all meta that I don't have significant personal experience in, so this doesn't change shit for me.
Raging Bull
Im not a read for cts thanks. I feel the love
DakeDekaane
cuz u bully :(

That makes me ISO NH
aaaaa
rEdo

pieguy1372 wrote:

CTs-Th wrote:

Oh hi again. Nice to see you all. XD
As you know, I was nightkilled last night. I guess they chose me because I'm a newbie, and that's the way they can get rid of a vote to them. (Since I just follow somebody's vote. XD)
And ugh, CalignoBot looked annoying lately. I suspect that he'd be a Fire Scum. (Sorry for offensive, but yeah you did.)
Tsukasa looks so town IMO. I trusted that rEdo is town, considered his double vote can take some scum out. (And even help us lynch farto) But if he harms town, we can take him out later.
NoHitter, Dake, Sephi and RB? I didn't focus much on them.
So here's my opinion: (names may stack, don't mind it, it just a possibility. :P)
Town (I trusted): pieguy, Tsukasa, Sephibro, rEdo, maybe... Dake?
Fire scum (possible): CalignoBot, Tsukasa, and everybody else who didn't vote farto in D2.
Ice scum (possible): NoHitter, rEdo, and somebody who voted farto in D2. <<< Not Caligno for sure.
Finally, I'm watching you...
wait what
Sephibro
I made a huge post this morning, pressed Post and suddenly


now i want to die irl

I'll try to write something like that again when i get home in ~5 hours - please wait for me


in the meantime i'll just rewrite this part

Sakura wrote:

General Rules:
- Do not quote anything from the PMs given to you by the mod.
- Do not communicate outside of this thread unless your role PM allows you to.
- Dead players cannot post, but may make a bah post without revealing any game content in the following day phase.
it feels strange something like that to be allowed, but I don't think pieguy's post is breaking the rules, so probably CTs-Th can communicate by pm with another player after his death and this player is allowed to share it on the topic
Amianki
Current reads because I feel like it:

Town: pieguy1372, DakeDekaane
Fire Scum: rEdo
Ice Scum: Sephibro, Tsukasa
Either Scum: NoHitter, Raging Bull

These are what I feel are most likely for each person.

BTW: After some more thinking, I have come to the conclusion that it's town's best interests in general that we lynch ice scum over fire scum. I see virtually no advantages to the opposite.

RE: CTs: I'm assuming it's genuine until it's proven not to be.
Raging Bull
How is it possible you listed 3 scum already and then you list NH and I as potential scum?
Amianki
...They're reads.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Explorer: Sir, there is certainly a lack of balance between the cold and heat today...

Mayor: Yes indeed

Explorer: What could this mean sir.

Mayor: Probably that one team is losing...


CalignoBot (2) - pieguy1372, rEdo
NoHitter (1) - CalignoBot
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro

Not Voting - DakeDekaane, NoHitter, Tsukasa, Raging Bull

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Countdown till deadline
Amianki
Raging Bull: reads
pieguyn

CalignoBot wrote:

Current reads because I feel like it:

Town: pieguy1372, DakeDekaane
are you kidding me

wow I was right it really was Dake + Caligno

explain these two townreads plz
rEdo
Prod dodge.

Pieguy, how come that you've posted that huge wall of text that apparenly is CTs' work?
pieguyn
CTs originally posted it

and I reposted it
pieguyn
game's p much solved though
Caligno and Dake are ice scum
and then there's only one fire scum left and it's probably Tsukass and if it's not then we can almost certainly figure out who it is
pieguyn
btw you all are free to ask CTs anything

being able to talk with a conftown doesn't happen everyday o/
Sephibro
basically my reads didn't change from the beginning of the day
At this point, i think mafia are probably DakeDekaane, CalignoBot and NoHitter
but i have no idea who's fire and who's ice
Amianki

pieguy1372 wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Current reads because I feel like it:

Town: pieguy1372, DakeDekaane
are you kidding me

wow I was right it really was Dake + Caligno

explain these two townreads plz
You're literally only in the town list because of the lack of info on who else is scum yet. You're far from a strong town read in my eyes.

DakeDekaane is there because I really don't see how he can be either.
Amianki
Plus, you not seeing NoHitter as scum is pretty awful. You jump up to #1 ice scum possibility if he's ice scum.
Raging Bull

CalignoBot wrote:

Raging Bull: reads
Why post twice?

Anyways i know they are reads but if you read three scum already, why add even more people you think might be scum?
Raging Bull

pieguy1372 wrote:

btw you all are free to ask CTs anything

being able to talk with a conftown doesn't happen everyday o/

Cts is potentially a tree stump?
Amianki

Raging Bull wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Raging Bull: reads
Why post twice?

Anyways i know they are reads but if you read three scum already, why add even more people you think might be scum?
The second one was actually me telling you to state yours. Your opinions on who is ice/fire will be a huge help.
Amianki
Dake is like obvtown. I don't understand why people are thinking he's scum.
pieguyn

CalignoBot wrote:

Dake is like obvtown. I don't understand why people are thinking he's scum.
no this isn't gonna cut it

why is Dake apparently "obvtown"

you're scum who's BS'ing reads aren't you
pieguyn

CTs-Th wrote:

I'm here again, glad to see you guys freaks out. :)
I have to admit that I didn't focus on RB much this game. I didn't even mention him once.

I got a very little information, but with collaboration with pieguy. I can think of something.

Okay, first of all. Let's take a look at this one: p/2740927/
It was posted by Caligno, right? He puts every body in the table as he reads, except him. He didn't puts himself in it. So I just wanna ask you: "Where are you in that table?"
FoS: CalignoBot

Second, here's my read: (and again, name may stack because it's a possibility.)
Town: pieguy, rEdo, RB, Sephi, Dake?, and... Tsukasa? (Absent so long...)
Fire Scum: rEdo, RB (not sure), NoHitter, Dake?, and even CalignoBot is possible. +who didn't vote farto.
Ice Scum: Caligno (#1 suspect.), NoHitter (Considered CB's post.), Dake here too, and... who vote farto.
(^^^ I'm also confused myself.)

One more thing I want you guys to consider: I noticed that CB barely mention Dake, or did he avoided mentioning him? Now I just think that "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is replaced with "Dake-Caligno scum buddies 2013" is better. ^ ^
FoS: Dake <<< In fact I've already push him on D1.

Finally, sorry for long post. I can't post frequently because I'm not the one who post this. pieguy did. So I made this long to get several topic. You can ask me, but don't expected much to get answer. (I didn't get any extra information from dying. XD) And correct me if I'm worng too.

Bye now, I'm watching you...
DakeDekaane
Are we sharing reads? I should share reads too.

My townreads are in RB and Sephibro. I can't see RB as scum and Sephi hasn't made anything that make him look scummy besides going with the flow and suspecting me.

Everyone else is possible scum. This two guys are less likely to be scum.
pieguy is the least likely to be scum, why? If this ability is of his, is way too OP for scum imo. But if this is CTs' ability, pieguy is more likely to be scum :P
rEdo because maybe.

The rest has a high chance of being scum, after re-re-reading the thread, I'm ok with lynching any of these guys.
NH, Caligno and Tsukasa.

Me ofc is town, whoever that puts a vote on me if a wagon starts is likely scum.

And yes, I also want to know why I'm obvtown Caligno.
Sephibro

DakeDekaane wrote:

Me ofc is town, whoever that puts a vote on me if a wagon starts is likely scum.

And yes, I also want to know why I'm obvtown Caligno.
this looks like a contraddiction to me

btw, i would like rEdo, NoHitter and Raging Bull to share their reads too

@mod: prod NoHitter pls
rEdo

Sephibro wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

Me ofc is town, whoever that puts a vote on me if a wagon starts is likely scum.

And yes, I also want to know why I'm obvtown Caligno.
this looks like a contraddiction to me

btw, i would like rEdo, NoHitter and Raging Bull to share their reads too

@mod: prod NoHitter pls
I will do once I'm not busy with stuff, this week's going to be tough due to school and stuff. However, I am willing to spend an hour on analysis of all this soon. Prod dodge for now Q_Q
Amianki
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.

Cts-Th: ...really? What does me not putting myself in my reads list have to do with anything? Your statement about me barely mentioning Dake doesn't really have any weight either. Just ISO me and see how meaningless that is.

There's another very telling thing going on right now... I'll go do an analysis and come back on that.
Amianki

pieguy1372 wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Dake is like obvtown. I don't understand why people are thinking he's scum.
no this isn't gonna cut it

why is Dake apparently "obvtown"

you're scum who's BS'ing reads aren't you
Reverse the situation and I literally see the exact same thing. Both seeing NoHitter as apparently town and Dake as scum completely boggles my mind.
pieguyn

CalignoBot wrote:

Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
hint: this is a strong as hell associative between you two :>

CalignoBot wrote:

Reverse the situation and I literally see the exact same thing. Both seeing NoHitter as apparently town and Dake as scum completely boggles my mind.
I don't understand this. can you explain further plz
Topic Starter
Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

@mod: prod NoHitter pls
NoHitter is V/LA and so he cant be prodded

CalignoBot (2) - pieguy1372, rEdo
NoHitter (1) - CalignoBot
DakeDekaane (1) - sephibro

Not Voting - DakeDekaane, NoHitter, Tsukasa, Raging Bull

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Countdown until deadline
pieguyn

CalignoBot wrote:

Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
actually, can you further elaborate on this? what firm statements has he made? also, why do you think this is necessarily a towntell?
Tsukasa
Ok so I do think my V/LA is up and I can't abuse it anymore

I promise I'll be not lazy to reread the game after my 2 other tests and be more active. Since christmas break
Raging Bull
Town: rEdo, Tsukasa

Null: pieguy, sephibro

Fire Scum: Dake
Ice: NH, Calingo

but nevermind that, vote NH when he gets back.
pieguyn
if you're trying to get people to vote NH then why isn't your vote on NH?
Raging Bull
Feels unfair to vote someone who cant defend themselves due to issues. I did vote for him in the beginning until he went v la
Amianki

pieguy1372 wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
hint: this is a strong as hell associative between you two :>
I want you to seriously consider this question: Do you really believe this?

pieguy1372 wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Reverse the situation and I literally see the exact same thing. Both seeing NoHitter as apparently town and Dake as scum completely boggles my mind.
I don't understand this. can you explain further plz
That was referencing "you're scum who's BS'ing reads aren't you"

pieguy1372 wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
actually, can you further elaborate on this? what firm statements has he made? also, why do you think this is necessarily a towntell?
Okay, let me just post a wall of quotes:

---

DakeDekaane wrote:

Also pieguy, why do you vote farto when he's clearly trying to put an end to RVS as quick as possible, we have plenty of time, but that's not reason to goof around.

DakeDekaane wrote:

^scum pls

Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy


We could basically spend all D1 in RVS without any sign of "ending naturally", better starting discussion as soon as possible, lefting very few spots for scum to play around, don't you think?
I originally got major scumvibes off this post, but that has been virtually negated combined with the rest of his ISO.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Also FoS on rEdo for not sheeping like he usually does.
Incredibly weak, but still clearly unafraid to make his stances known.

DakeDekaane wrote:

So what's the reason of lynching Irre over Cookie? Both are absent (Cookie would be replaced and Irre is V/LA). I can think in both wagons being opportunistic as they're pretty much going over inactive people, it's true this may be lurking but I'm not sure at all.
Basically a firm declaration that the wagons suck.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Just posting I'm alive and waiting for this situation to be cleared, as speedlynching us clearly bad.
Same as above but only with the Cookie wagon.

DakeDekaane wrote:

I'm up to hammer fanderwik, if he's not scum then go for pieguy. Thanks.
I shouldn't have to explain this.

DakeDekaane wrote:

1 kill, looks nice, but I can't relate it atm.
pieguy rushing as always.
Is Caligno even in the game?

Today we are lynching pieguy/rEdo.
This either.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
piescum pls
Also I didn't post there because the day was ended to fast >.>

idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.
Just more firm stances.

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The majority of the rest of his posts are either defending himself when he was being attacked and just fluff, which is inherently null.

As for why this is a towntell, I basically already explained it when I explained why NoHitter is obvscum. Mafia's most optimal strategy is to be as null a read in the general populace as possible. If you're going to be playing like the way Dake is, you're going to go in either direction guaranteed. I fully believe even inexperienced scum players would be wary of the opposite scum team enough to subconsciously try to shy away from any chance of being targetted for a kill.

...That means not risking being a possible town leader.
Amianki
Raging Bull you'd prefer your vote to be useless than put someone at L-3?
pieguyn
Dake is scum bc he's being a giant lurkfuck. it's a meta read

NH was null-town but he's closer to null for me atm

i fyou think I'm BS'ing reads then why do you have me in your townpile. scared of not having enough townreads?

I could respond but basically everything you quoted I don't see how he couldn't say as scum. he's far from a town leader in just about everyone's eyes and I don't think there was any risk of him being a town leader. especially with me in the game and how in information mafia I lead everyone after the game went stale only for rEdo to vote me for absolutely no reason :cry:

in particular, this
I shouldn't have to explain this.
is not alignment indicative bc Dake is probably ice scum so ofc he's going to hammer a fire scum. and even if he's fire scum fandw was quite clearly about to be lynched so he didn't really have a choice
and
This either.
that's hardly a "firm stance". he doesn't give any reasons for any of them
Just more firm stances.
I see false logic and waffling about what Sephi said. this is, again, hardly a firm stance

can we speedlynch this guy plz
pieguyn
also I love how you started to bus Dake at the start of the game bc you love bussing your teammates

but then you realized how suicidal it was in a setup like this and did a complete 180 ~
DakeDekaane
You people would know I don't have a "defined meta", so meta arguments are weak against me, if that's all the case you have on me, you took the wrong way.
Raging Bull

CalignoBot wrote:

Raging Bull you'd prefer your vote to be useless than put someone at L-3?
Why is the way how i vote even bothering you? I still am going to vote nh. I was the one who even voted him first. Seems like you really want him dead as long as it isnt your partner
Amianki

pieguy1372 wrote:

i fyou think I'm BS'ing reads then why do you have me in your townpile. scared of not having enough townreads?
Read my ISO again.

In case you're lazy: You were only placed there because I was very interested in NoHitter's flip before classifying you one way or the other. I'd rather not support a lynch on you until then.

pieguy1372 wrote:

I could respond but basically everything you quoted I don't see how he couldn't say as scum. he's far from a town leader in just about everyone's eyes and I don't think there was any risk of him being a town leader. especially with me in the game and how in information mafia I lead everyone after the game went stale only for rEdo to vote me for absolutely no reason :cry:
That wasn't as much a concrete point as it was a generalization. Being very active and helping drive the playerlist to a consensus kind of makes a time where you want to lay low stand out a fuckton more which would completely defeat the purpose of trying to do this in the first place.

pieguy wrote:

in particular, this
I shouldn't have to explain this.
is not alignment indicative bc Dake is probably ice scum so ofc he's going to hammer a fire scum. and even if he's fire scum fandw was quite clearly about to be lynched so he didn't really have a choice
This is complete nonsense. You seem to be under the assumption that if he was ice scum, he would know that fartownik was fire scum. So... why exactly would he hold back again on a target that pretty much everyone else active at that point was calling for the head of?

Also, congratulations on pretty much eliminating the possibility of Dake being fire scum. The partner's best play would easily have been to be on the wagon while he basically threw away his chance to.

pieguy1372 wrote:

and
This either.
that's hardly a "firm stance". he doesn't give any reasons for any of them
Again, nonsense. Just because he doesn't give reasons doesn't mean it's not a firm stance. If you basically lock yourself into a single perspective that would look incredibly awkward to back out of, it's a firm stance.

pieguy1372 wrote:

Just more firm stances.
I see false logic and waffling about what Sephi said. this is, again, hardly a firm stance
Go into more detail here.

pieguy1372 wrote:

also I love how you started to bus Dake at the start of the game bc you love bussing your teammates

but then you realized how suicidal it was in a setup like this and did a complete 180 ~
This would be a lot more convincing if I had posted close to anything about Dake before you asked me why I thought he was town.
Amianki

Raging Bull wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Raging Bull you'd prefer your vote to be useless than put someone at L-3?
Why is the way how i vote even bothering you? I still am going to vote nh. I was the one who even voted him first. Seems like you really want him dead as long as it isnt your partner
You talk about voting him a lot for someone who isn't voting for anyone. It's even worse when he's L-4.
Raging Bull
You talk a lot for someone who wasnt here for half the game
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