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ZUN - Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish [Taiko|Osu]

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Kodora
Kodora
Remapped my parts in collab. Little note to next modders:

1) I wont remove/replace last stream - it's important part of difficulty progression
2) I wont add more kiai - song is very repetitive and isnt called for it at all
3) Stack Leniency higher than 0.3 makes no sense for my patterns
Kecco
908 posts
Joined September 2009
Kecco
Hello, modding the Lunatic diff on my own accord.

[General]
• I don't like the colours you're using. I'd suggest these ones (I used them for some of my touhou maps, they're copyrighted!) They fit much better.
SPOILER
Combo1 : 255,0,128
Combo2 : 250,83,41
Combo3 : 245,225,86
• Add "Jun'ya Ota" in the tags.

[Lunatic]
00:03:972 (5,6,7,8) - Why don't you make a square? Something like this ↓ Way better flow imo. [If you follow this suggestion, fix the spacing with the slider 00:04:699 (9) - ]
SPOILER
00:03:972 (5) - New combo.
00:07:244 (7,8) - Move them a bit more downwards and to the right. Better flow.
00:09:699 (8) - 444;240
00:22:608 (4) - This note relies on nothing. Delete it.
00:35:972 (4,5) - Why don't you make them the same of 00:35:245 (2,3) - ? Would flow better. [Also, you should do it for consistency with 00:41:063 (1,2,3,4) - ]
00:47:790 (1,2) - I don't like this. Doesn't play good imo. Up to you. You could do something like this.
SPOILER

01:02:336 (1,2) - ^
01:06:699 (6) - New combo.
01:19:245 (4,5,6,7) - Mhmh, it's not that readable, but you're following the beats so I guess it's fine. By the way, if you feel like remapping this, do it.
02:01:063 (5) - New combo.
02:06:881 (6) - ^
02:17:063 (4) - What about this? Or something close to that.
SPOILER
02:20:881 (1,2) - Same suggestion of the ones up.
02:23:608 (6) - New combo.
02:26:699 (1,2) - Same suggestion of the ones up.
02:40:336 (1) - Stack it under the 02:39:790 (7) - ? [Just a suggestion, don't take it that serious]
From 00:26:517 - to 00:58:154 - Too many spinners :( But I guess it's fine since you're following the instrument

Nice mappu!

Leader
osu! Alumni
1,849 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Leader

Kecco wrote:

Hello, modding the Lunatic diff on my own accord.

[General]
• I don't like the colours you're using. I'd suggest these ones (I used them for some of my touhou maps, they're copyrighted!) They fit much better. I'd rather use mine since they fit with bg <_<
SPOILER
Combo1 : 255,0,128
Combo2 : 250,83,41
Combo3 : 245,225,86
• Add "Jun'ya Ota" in the tags. Not really needed

[Lunatic]
00:22:608 (4) - This note relies on nothing. Delete it. It does o_O
00:35:972 (4,5) - Why don't you make them the same of 00:35:245 (2,3) - ? Would flow better. [Also, you should do it for consistency with 00:41:063 (1,2,3,4) - ] Seems fine to me, I may change in the future if anyone will suggest the same, though
00:47:790 (1,2) - I don't like this. Doesn't play good imo. Up to you. You could do something like this. It's okay in my opinion
SPOILER

01:19:245 (4,5,6,7) - Mhmh, it's not that readable, but you're following the beats so I guess it's fine. By the way, if you feel like remapping this, do it. This pattern appeared before, what's wrong with this one in particular?
02:01:063 (5) - New combo. No, there's no need
02:06:881 (6) - ^ ^
02:40:336 (1) - Stack it under the 02:39:790 (7) - ? [Just a suggestion, don't take it that serious] Heck no
From 00:26:517 - to 00:58:154 - Too many spinners :( But I guess it's fine since you're following the instrument It's a kind of escalation, they won't appear anymore in kiai part

Nice mappu!

Rest has been fixed, thank you.
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,315 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
gg... take a star <3
AruOtta
1,303 posts
Joined May 2012
AruOtta
From your request ~

[Easy]
Nothing to say, just more hitsound =)

[BCI's Normal]
BG : Blue hair like Tenshi ? xD
00:23:608 (1,2) - Blanket ?

[Collab Hard]
00:46:154 (1,2) - Move them down :
SPOILER

[Insane Lunatic]
02:43:244 (1) - We can't hear the hitsound =/

Because of short mod (and because I like the song), Take my Star =3

Good Luck *u*
ampzz
ampzz

General
Nothing at all to comment on here; everything checked out a-OK to me and sorry for the lateness.

Easy
The difficulty itself felt like a massive counter-clockwise circle in the beginning with a monotonous amount of looping around the same arc. I'll offer some suggestions to hopefully make it seem less like a circle and have a bit of variation; your choice if you want to apply them.
  1. 00:05:426 (4,1,2,3,4) - This I found to be sort of lacking with just a slow progressive curve on the lower half of the screen. Why not mix it up with something snappish like this -
    SPOILER
  2. 00:09:063 (1,2,3) - Try this?
    SPOILER
  3. 00:11:972 (1,2,3,4,1) - Go for something bouncy here too?
    SPOILER


    With this just vertically flip 00:14:881 (1,2,3) - for the end of this.
  4. 00:19:972 (4,1,2,3,4) - Using (4) to blanket (1) with a change to the pattern of (2,3,4) looks and plays nicely if done like this -
    SPOILER
    Part1:


    Part 2:
  5. 00:23:608 (1,2,3) - Something like this to make it seem less boring -
    SPOILER
  6. 00:36:699 (2) - vertical flip this and just slightly reposition it so it fits at 1.0x snap.
  7. 00:39:608 (1,2,3,4) - Something like this instead of a better lead into the upcoming spinner?
    SPOILER
  8. 00:55:972 (1) - Didn't expect this spinner here with how you mapped the prior sounding roll with a long curved slider but guess I can't complain there.
  9. 01:07:245 (1) - This spinner I would prefer to be a nice curved slider with a repeat on it (which lasts the same length) that blankets the prior (2)'s end
All the rhythm and everything is fine to me; just work on altering some of the combos to be a bit more 'vivid' to play rather than repetitive.

I'll save all the changes I've made to the .osu so if you want to get the codes for all of this let me know.

BCI's Normal
Overall this difficulty was very strong and enjoyable to play with only a few things which irked me (personal thing) that I will note.
  1. 00:03:972 (2,5) - Feels a bit too condensed for an overlap to me.
  2. 00:24:336 (2,1) - This I would suggest just to offset to x:385 y:125 for a better read and to make it seem less copy paste-ish later on..
  3. 01:50:517 (4) - Personally I wouldn't bother with this and just have the lull play as is.
  4. 02:37:426 (1) - I didn't like this one's positioning; would suggest to move it to x:401 y:163 and after that you'll need to adjust your following combo.

Collab Hard
A bit of nitpicking on stuff in this difficulty especially with the spinners starting on utterly stupid 1/8th intervals after beats.
  1. 00:03:063 (1) - Remove NC and place it on the next white tick instead. Basically copy this NC logic over onto other sections as well so there's more focus on the musical break up.
  2. 00:11:245 (7) - Could do with an NC.
  3. 00:16:699 (2) - CTRL + G please.
  4. 00:28:699 (7,8,9,1) - The flow run off from (7) into (8) just feels awkward to play especially considering how the end of this combo is, rearrange it a bit so it feels natural to play.
  5. 00:32:154 (7,1) - A little visual tweak for here would be to use (1) to blanket (7).
  6. 00:35:154 (3) - Doesn't have much foreground focus audibly so I would prefer this removed. Then you could rearrange the prior combo like this -
    SPOILER

    In saying this I really prefer triples to be focused on the highly audible tones so I won't bother pointing out all of them but just use them to emphasise that higher pitched synthesiser roll instead of barely inaudible beats.
  7. 00:39:608 (5) - NC this please since it is a new musical phase and to help people comprehend the spacing better.
  8. 00:46:154 (1) - CTRL + G this for additional flow in this combo.
  9. 00:59:063 (4,6) - I would really love for these to be located at x:328 y:150 instead so it's a really nice flow in and out of the sliders.
  10. 01:00:517 (1,2,3) - What about a bit of change here so you keep doing a floating arc like this? -
    SPOILER
  11. 01:12:972 (2) - I would prefer for this to be removed so there's more focus on triples being played due to that higher pitched synthesiser.
  12. 01:15:245 (7) - It's weird that this is a kick slider instead of a 1/1 slider or even 1/2 slider with a repeat consider the same drum rolls have been mapped over before.
  13. 01:18:790 (2) - Same deal as other triples like this.
  14. 01:26:881 (8,9,1) - A bit of extended flow addition here by opting away from the boring straight slider which doesn't lead to the next sections' direction -
    SPOILER
  15. 01:32:699 (5,6) - Just no, the kick slider (if you plan to keep it) must start on 01:32:699 - and end on 01:33:063 - with the lull until 01:33:426 (1) - . Your current rhythm set-up here made no sense.
  16. 01:45:063 (1,2,3) - Change (1)'s direction so it flows off into (2,3) nicer.
  17. 01:47:881 (2) - Eh, Would prefer this gone and funking up the combo around here.
  18. 01:48:336 (4,1,2) - Why does (2) overlap on (4)'s start? If it's purely to up the difficulty I highly advise against it. Also, for this I would actually like to play (4) as a repeat slider so you get a nice hold on the piano here.
  19. 01:49:426 (1,1,1,1,1) - NC spam, yuck.
  20. 02:25:790 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This was just disgusting to sight-read/play.
  21. 02:37:426 (4,1) - Either stack (1) under (4) perfectly or set it in a completely different spot on the map.
  22. 02:39:790 (2,1) - Yuck. This was horrible when I got to it, even more so than the constant overlap. Why ruin the end with something utterly senseless like this?
Some of the stuff I point out later also reflects on other stuff in the difficulty since I was giving it a few run-throughs and kept forgetting if I had or hadn't picked on things beforehand.

Insane
Quite a fun difficulty.
  1. 00:09:699 (8) - Any reason this isn't a circle + 1/2 slider? I kept trying to play is like that. I'll refrain from constantly pointing out this rhythm bit just in case it's how you wanted to represent the section of music.
  2. 00:21:245 (7) - Personal irk here is that I prefer playing to a consistent rhythm which would mean that I wouldn't expect to play this.
  3. 00:47:790 (1) - Same thing as above; to me it plays really nice without this beat here at all since it's a pure focus on the synth. Optionally you could place your 00:47:881 (4) - back on 00:47:426 - with a repeat so you hold it.
  4. 00:58:154 (1,2,3,4) - Instead of this, what about a kick slider?
  5. 00:59:972 (3,4) - For HD sight-readabilities' sake get (4) out from under (3)'s body.
  6. 01:08:699 (6) - Would prefer this gone myself, I slipped up on the first since I didn't really hear this beat at all; would help to give focus to the rattatat sound too.
  7. 01:20:790 (2,4) - These I would prefer gone to give more emphasis on the upcoming stream.
  8. 01:31:972 (9,1,1) - Confusing NC break-up. Just place it on 01:31:972 - and remove the other two.
  9. 01:52:336 (1,3) - Angle these slightly so it's a natural run off and out of (2).
  10. 01:59:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This was really awesome to play, great job. (´∪`*)
  11. 02:02:426 (10) - Remove this to make it oh, so much better.
  12. 02:22:881 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Not going to lie here, I could not understand the beat break-up at all. There's parts which were mapped to that made me constantly question which band of music I was meant to be playing and others which just confused me outright. Pick a certain series of beats to map here and stick to it so it's actually comprehensible instead of loosely relying on pure circle reading.
    My loose take on the rhythm


    I'll revise it and let you know some other time when my brain is completely functional again. xD
  13. 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Would've preferred something a little fancier for the final section/stream of the map.
Kodora
Kodora

ampzz wrote:

[notice]

Collab Hard
A bit of nitpicking on stuff in this difficulty especially with the spinners starting on utterly stupid 1/8th intervals after beats. this totally ok since they all following same note long note, there is no any musical reason to keep 1/4 pause
  1. 00:03:063 (1) - Remove NC and place it on the next white tick instead. Basically copy this NC logic over onto other sections as well so there's more focus on the musical break up. NC placed here due to jump, so noo~
  2. 00:11:245 (7) - Could do with an NC. Done
  3. 00:16:699 (2) - CTRL + G please. Will ruin my pattern, so no.
  4. 00:46:154 (1) - CTRL + G this for additional flow in this combo. same here ^
  5. 00:59:063 (4,6) - I would really love for these to be located at x:328 y:150 instead so it's a really nice flow in and out of the sliders. Done
  6. 01:00:517 (1,2,3) - What about a bit of change here so you keep doing a floating arc like this? - Done
    SPOILER
  7. 01:45:063 (1,2,3) - Change (1)'s direction so it flows off into (2,3) nicer. Done
  8. 01:47:881 (2) - Eh, Would prefer this gone and funking up the combo around here. Pattern combo, so no ;p
  9. 01:48:336 (4,1,2) - Why does (2) overlap on (4)'s start? If it's purely to up the difficulty I highly advise against it. Also, for this I would actually like to play (4) as a repeat slider so you get a nice hold on the piano here. It overlaps because i want to make a little trap here, also i dont really get your point about reverse-slider, current rhytm is fine for me
  10. 01:49:426 (1,1,1,1,1) - NC spam, yuck. No.
  11. 02:25:790 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This was just disgusting to sight-read/play. Its perfectly playable, lol. I tested it several times before with different players and it was works fine.
  12. 02:37:426 (4,1) - Either stack (1) under (4) perfectly or set it in a completely different spot on the map. Stacked
  13. 02:39:790 (2,1) - Yuck. This was horrible when I got to it, even more so than the constant overlap. Why ruin the end with something utterly senseless like this? Changed this part.
diff
osu file format v12

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 81790
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8

[Metadata]
Title:Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish
TitleUnicode:黒い海に紅く ～ Legendary Fish
Artist:ZUN
ArtistUnicode:ZUN
Creator:Leader
Version:Collab Hard
Source:Touhou
Tags:Scarlet Weather Rhapsody SWR th10.5 Iku Nagae BCI black_cherry_ita Leyko Kodora hs714 DarkDunskin Collab Collaboration
BeatmapID:249745
BeatmapSetID:88770

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92,296,125245,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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360,48,131245,1,0,1:0:0:0:
348,44,131972,5,0,1:0:0:0:
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ampzz wrote:

General
Nothing at all to comment on here; everything checked out a-OK to me and sorry for the lateness.

Easy
The difficulty itself felt like a massive counter-clockwise circle in the beginning with a monotonous amount of looping around the same arc. I'll offer some suggestions to hopefully make it seem less like a circle and have a bit of variation; your choice if you want to apply them.
  1. 00:05:426 (4,1,2,3,4) - This I found to be sort of lacking with just a slow progressive curve on the lower half of the screen. Why not mix it up with something snappish like this - Why not?
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  2. 00:09:063 (1,2,3) - Try this? I prefer my pattern because it flows better.
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  3. 00:11:972 (1,2,3,4,1) - Go for something bouncy here too? No, because consistency with previous pattern
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    With this just vertically flip 00:14:881 (1,2,3) - for the end of this.
  4. 00:19:972 (4,1,2,3,4) - Using (4) to blanket (1) with a change to the pattern of (2,3,4) looks and plays nicely if done like this - Neat. Done~
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    Part1:


    Part 2:
  5. 00:23:608 (1,2,3) - Something like this to make it seem less boring - Done
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  6. 00:36:699 (2) - vertical flip this and just slightly reposition it so it fits at 1.0x snap. Okay
  7. 00:39:608 (1,2,3,4) - Something like this instead of a better lead into the upcoming spinner? Awesome, changed to that
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  8. 00:55:972 (1) - Didn't expect this spinner here with how you mapped the prior sounding roll with a long curved slider but guess I can't complain there. Keeping this.
  9. 01:07:245 (1) - This spinner I would prefer to be a nice curved slider with a repeat on it (which lasts the same length) that blankets the prior (2)'s end I'd rather a spinner here (I couldn't do a blanket here xD)
All the rhythm and everything is fine to me; just work on altering some of the combos to be a bit more 'vivid' to play rather than repetitive.

I'll save all the changes I've made to the .osu so if you want to get the codes for all of this let me know.

BCI's Normal
Overall this difficulty was very strong and enjoyable to play with only a few things which irked me (personal thing) that I will note. Fixing for her
  1. 00:03:972 (2,5) - Feels a bit too condensed for an overlap to me. Fixed
  2. 00:24:336 (2,1) - This I would suggest just to offset to x:385 y:125 for a better read and to make it seem less copy paste-ish later on.. Nah, it's fine
  3. 01:50:517 (4) - Personally I wouldn't bother with this and just have the lull play as is. I prefer as it is, to be honest
  4. 02:37:426 (1) - I didn't like this one's positioning; would suggest to move it to x:401 y:163 and after that you'll need to adjust your following combo. Okay


Insane
Quite a fun difficulty.
  1. 00:09:699 (8) - Any reason this isn't a circle + 1/2 slider? I kept trying to play is like that. I'll refrain from constantly pointing out this rhythm bit just in case it's how you wanted to represent the section of music. I tried this idea but I think it plays better as it is.
  2. 00:21:245 (7) - Personal irk here is that I prefer playing to a consistent rhythm which would mean that I wouldn't expect to play this. Fixed, done like 00:09:426 (6,7,8) -
  3. 00:47:790 (1) - Same thing as above; to me it plays really nice without this beat here at all since it's a pure focus on the synth. Optionally you could place your 00:47:881 (4) - back on 00:47:426 - with a repeat so you hold it. Actually, I think it works well with music, might change if someone else complain.
  4. 00:58:154 (1,2,3,4) - Instead of this, what about a kick slider? Stream is fine, imo
  5. 00:59:972 (3,4) - For HD sight-readabilities' sake get (4) out from under (3)'s body. Okay, done
  6. 01:08:699 (6) - Would prefer this gone myself, I slipped up on the first since I didn't really hear this beat at all; would help to give focus to the rattatat sound too. That's cool, removed
  7. 01:20:790 (2,4) - These I would prefer gone to give more emphasis on the upcoming stream. Actually, I really like this stream as it is xD
  8. 01:31:972 (9,1,1) - Confusing NC break-up. Just place it on 01:31:972 - and remove the other two. Mhm, okay
  9. 01:52:336 (1,3) - Angle these slightly so it's a natural run off and out of (2). Done
  10. 01:59:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This was really awesome to play, great job. (´∪`*) Thank you!
  11. 02:02:426 (10) - Remove this to make it oh, so much better. Done!
  12. 02:22:881 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Not going to lie here, I could not understand the beat break-up at all. There's parts which were mapped to that made me constantly question which band of music I was meant to be playing and others which just confused me outright. Pick a certain series of beats to map here and stick to it so it's actually comprehensible instead of loosely relying on pure circle reading. I'll see, probably will fix it.
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    I'll revise it and let you know some other time when my brain is completely functional again. xD Let me know :3
  13. 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Would've preferred something a little fancier for the final section/stream of the map. Will rework.

Updatated, many thanks.

@Kenzert9: didn't fix anything, sorry. Thank you anyway for checking~
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Irreversible wrote:

Bubbles are too mainstream, take my heart!



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S-scared me for a second there; I had already finished half of this mod post and then I saw that and ;_;

Silly irre.



[Collab Hard]
00:21:426 (5,6,1) - Unnecessarily confusing. There aren't any other double hidden stacks in this difficulty and it just seems unnecessary at this point in the music. Moving 00:21:608 (6) to somewhere like 298,198 would make this much easier to read.

02:25:790 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - I'm not sure I like this pattern; it feels too gimmicky to me. It's isolated because there isn't anything else like it in the map, and there's nothing particularly appealing or interesting about the slider-hitcircle combo to justify making the player stare at and play through it four times. There are other ways to achieve repetition without having to be overly repetitive; what you did at 00:46:154 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) was fine in my opinion. I'd try and map a different pattern here, though if you really want to keep this you should at least fix the spacing inconsistencies with 02:26:336 (2,2,2,2) .

Overall, this difficulty plays nicely. The rhythm fits and is easy to read and the majority of the map flows well. Good work!
[BCI's Normal]
00:20:517 (4) - Consider moving to 00:20:336 . Having a gap until a red tick feels weird on Normal difficulties, and especially since your rhythm has been steady up until now.

02:40:336 (5) - Move to 140,336 so that it's aligned with (4). Ending the song with these two misaligned looks a bit awkward to me. If you change this, fix 01:06:699 (4,5) as well for consistency.
[Insane]
4697, my favorite settings!

00:17:063 (3) - Consider Ctrl+H and move to 364,132. This would flow better for me personally because it extends the previous oval flow, but what you have now is also okay.
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00:18:517 (5,1,1) - Consider Ctrl+G on each of these.

00:17:790 (3,4) - Actually, consider Ctrl+G on each of these instead, and restack 00:17:608 (1,2,3) .
image
This flows even better from 00:17:063 (3) if you took my suggestion above about it, because it creates some nice backflow:
image

00:23:608 to 01:10:154 - This section plays extremely well. Amazing use of 3/4s in combination with cusp and oval flow. Good work! The spinners here feel a bit excessive, but that's just me and I don't like to spinspinspin as much as other people do. It's fine!

01:07:245 (3) - Fix blanket. Startpoint 246,184; midpoint 147,198; endpoint 92,75. This won't mess with the distance snappings you previously had here (~1.30x from previous; ~1.20x to next).

02:15:608 (5,6) - I'm not sure if you were going for a blanket here, but if you were, you should make this neater, and if you weren't, well maybe you should go for a blanket. 02:15:608 (5) - midpoint to 422,303; endpoint to 448,216. 02:16:154 (6) - move to 344,232 so that it's 1.31x distance away from (5) after these adjustments.

Consider being more consistent with your 1/4 spacings for aesthetic reasons. Compare:
00:41:790 (3,4) - 0.74x
00:47:790 (1,2) - 0.32x
00:49:063 (6,7) - 0.46x
02:20:881 (1,2) - 0.14x
02:21:426 (3,4) - 0.25x
02:31:608 (1,2) - 0.42x
Maybe some of these are intentional, but for example I don't see a reason to space 00:47:790 (1,2) and 00:49:063 (6,7) or 02:14:154 (1,2) and 02:14:881 (3,4) differently. These slight differences aren't really noticeable in normal play, though, so don't worry too much about them; I thought I'd point this out in case you cared enough about these small details.

02:23:608 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - Okay, after listening really really hard to the music I can hear what you're mapping to here. Still, I think it plays a bit awkwardly. Starting 1/4 streams/stacks on blue ticks is always going to cause some confusion. Maybe you could try something like this:
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Because of slider dropoff leniency the gap actually isn't much of an issue (though this will probably require a spacing adjustment anyway; maybe you could try turning the stack into a stream instead), and the visual of the short (4) slider can help to cue the player in on the proper timing of the stack. This also gives you something to add a clap hitsound to at 02:23:972 , which makes more sense in my opinion than a clap hitsound at 02:23:881 . If you change something here, don't forget to do it at 02:29:426 (3,4,5,6,7,1) as well.

Overall, this is a very well-designed map. The way you handle the flow in combination with the 1/4 rhythm is incredible. The mapping is visually clean and organized, as well. Amazing work, and congrats on good luck with ranking!

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Riidaa hi It's Riido, btw :<

Irreversible wrote:

Bubbles are too mainstream, take my heart!



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S-scared me for a second there; I had already finished half of this mod post and then I saw that and ;_;

Silly irre. Yeah.


[Insane]
4697, my favorite settings!

00:17:063 (3) - Consider Ctrl+H and move to 364,132. This would flow better for me personally because it extends the previous oval flow, but what you have now is also okay. Fine, fixed
yes i am a professional ms painter

00:18:517 (5,1,1) - Consider Ctrl+G on each of these.

00:17:790 (3,4) - Actually, consider Ctrl+G on each of these instead, and restack 00:17:608 (1,2,3) .
image
This flows even better from 00:17:063 (3) if you took my suggestion above about it, because it creates some nice backflow: I don't like flow between 00:17:063 (3) - and 00:17:608 (1) - at all, so no
image

00:23:608 to 01:10:154 - This section plays extremely well. Amazing use of 3/4s in combination with cusp and oval flow. Good work! The spinners here feel a bit excessive, but that's just me and I don't like to spinspinspin as much as other people do. It's fine! Thank youuu TvT will see about spinners

01:07:245 (3) - Fix blanket. Startpoint 246,184; midpoint 147,198; endpoint 92,75. This won't mess with the distance snappings you previously had here (~1.30x from previous; ~1.20x to next). Done

02:15:608 (5,6) - I'm not sure if you were going for a blanket here, but if you were, you should make this neater, and if you weren't, well maybe you should go for a blanket. 02:15:608 (5) - midpoint to 422,303; endpoint to 448,216. 02:16:154 (6) - move to 344,232 so that it's 1.31x distance away from (5) after these adjustments. And done

Consider being more consistent with your 1/4 spacings for aesthetic reasons. Compare:
00:41:790 (3,4) - 0.74x
00:47:790 (1,2) - 0.32x
00:49:063 (6,7) - 0.46x
02:20:881 (1,2) - 0.14x
02:21:426 (3,4) - 0.25x
02:31:608 (1,2) - 0.42x
Maybe some of these are intentional, but for example I don't see a reason to space 00:47:790 (1,2) and 00:49:063 (6,7) or 02:14:154 (1,2) and 02:14:881 (3,4) differently. These slight differences aren't really noticeable in normal play, though, so don't worry too much about them; I thought I'd point this out in case you cared enough about these small details. Welp, there was an error and others are kinda intentional, as you said it's not a big deal but fixed up a bit.

02:23:608 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - Okay, after listening really really hard to the music I can hear what you're mapping to here. Still, I think it plays a bit awkwardly. Starting 1/4 streams/stacks on blue ticks is always going to cause some confusion. Maybe you could try something like this:
images
Because of slider dropoff leniency the gap actually isn't much of an issue (though this will probably require a spacing adjustment anyway; maybe you could try turning the stack into a stream instead), and the visual of the short (4) slider can help to cue the player in on the proper timing of the stack. This also gives you something to add a clap hitsound to at 02:23:972 , which makes more sense in my opinion than a clap hitsound at 02:23:881 . If you change something here, don't forget to do it at 02:29:426 (3,4,5,6,7,1) as well. That's great, done

Overall, this is a very well-designed map. The way you handle the flow in combination with the 1/4 rhythm is incredible. The mapping is visually clean and organized, as well. Amazing work, and congrats on good luck with ranking! Thank you :3

☆~

Applied suggestion on Normal too, thank you!
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[Collab Hard]
00:21:426 (5,6,1) - Unnecessarily confusing. There aren't any other double hidden stacks in this difficulty and it just seems unnecessary at this point in the music. Moving 00:21:608 (6) to somewhere like 298,198 would make this much easier to read. I love variable placement & michievous patterns. Also, this is not that hard, so no change

02:25:790 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - I'm not sure I like this pattern; it feels too gimmicky to me. It's isolated because there isn't anything else like it in the map, and there's nothing particularly appealing or interesting about the slider-hitcircle combo to justify making the player stare at and play through it four times. There are other ways to achieve repetition without having to be overly repetitive; what you did at 00:46:154 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) was fine in my opinion. I'd try and map a different pattern here, though if you really want to keep this you should at least fix the spacing inconsistencies with 02:26:336 (2,2,2,2) . Fixed spacing, wont change pattern because music at this part is soo repetitive & because i love it as it now.

Overall, this difficulty plays nicely. The rhythm fits and is easy to read and the majority of the map flows well. Good work!

☆~
Thanks!
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osu file format v12

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PreviewTime: 81790
Countdown: 0
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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish
TitleUnicode:黒い海に紅く ～ Legendary Fish
Artist:ZUN
ArtistUnicode:ZUN
Creator:Leader
Version:Collab Hard
Source:Touhou
Tags:Scarlet Weather Rhapsody SWR th10.5 Iku Nagae BCI black_cherry_ita Leyko Kodora hs714 DarkDunskin Collab Collaboration
BeatmapID:249745
BeatmapSetID:88770

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg_collab.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,93626,104313
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"Kodora.png",320,240
 M,0,-27,,449,159
 S,0,-27,,0.8596129
 F,0,-27,336,0,1
 F,0,336,22881,1
 F,0,22881,23245,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"Leyko.png",320,240
 M,0,23245,,448,159
 S,0,23245,,0.8513548
 F,0,23245,23608,0,1
 F,0,23608,46154,1,0.9972452
 F,0,46154,46517,0.9972452,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"Kodora.png",320,240
 M,0,46517,,448,159
 S,0,46517,,0.8265806
 F,0,46517,46881,0,1
 F,0,46881,69426,1,0.9807692
 F,0,69426,69790,0.9807692,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"Leyko.png",320,240
 M,0,69790,,449,159
 S,0,69790,,0.8348386
 F,0,69790,70154,0,1
 F,0,70154,93426,1,0.9945055
 F,0,93426,93790,0.9945055,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"Kodora.png",320,240
 S,0,104699,,0.8265806
 F,0,104699,105063,0,1
 F,0,105063,115972,1
 M,0,105187,,445,158
 F,0,115972,116336,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"Leyko.png",320,240
 M,0,116336,,445,159
 S,0,116336,,0.8513548
 F,0,116336,116699,0,1
 F,0,116699,138517,1,0.9944904
 F,0,138517,139245,0.9944904,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"Kodora.png",320,240
 M,0,139245,,444,159
 S,0,139245,,0.8678711
 F,0,139245,139972,0,1
 F,0,139972,163245,1
 F,0,163245,163608,1,0
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

[TimingPoints]
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[Colours]
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Combo2 : 233,18,45
Combo3 : 126,88,199

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256,188,139608,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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361,297,140517,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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360,120,146336,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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360,120,147063,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Irreversible
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4,315 posts
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Irreversible
Take my IRC mod, I hope I was able to help you a bit. I really liked the gameplay a lot!

17:17 Irreversible: Leader
17:17 Irreversible: irc mod now
17:17 Leader: ok
17:17 *Irreversible is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/286577 ZUN - Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish [Lunatic]]
17:17 Irreversible: wait isn't alrdy ranked
17:17 Leader: bat is noob
17:17 Leader: and it's still unranked
17:17 Irreversible: :(((
17:17 Irreversible: 00:02:517 (4) -
17:17 Irreversible: can you explain me this placing please?
17:18 Irreversible: wouldn't it make more sense to put it somewhere, where the DS still increases?
17:18 Irreversible: 00:00:336 (1,2,3) - like here you know?
17:18 Leader: ok, moved up
17:19 Irreversible: but
17:19 Irreversible: watch out
17:19 Irreversible: 00:00:336 (1,3) -
17:19 Irreversible: you see this?
17:19 Irreversible: 00:01:063 (2,4) - the same DS between them, just to get a good pattern
17:19 Leader: yup?
17:20 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/4z7no.png
17:20 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/4z7nP.png
17:20 Irreversible: ok LOL
17:20 Irreversible: 00:03:972 (1,2,3,4) -
17:20 Leader: BEST PAINER
17:20 Irreversible: this square pattern can be improved
17:20 Irreversible: DS between 1 + 3 isn't the same as between 2 + 4
17:21 Irreversible: also
17:21 Irreversible: for a better flow i highly recommend:
17:21 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/4z7rf.jpg
17:22 Leader: that's sweet
17:22 Irreversible: 00:05:063 (6,1) - make those two paralell please
17:23 Irreversible: also, try to get this: 00:04:699 (5,6,1) - http://puu.sh/4z7tX.jpg
17:23 Irreversible: 00:05:972 (1,2,3) - move those more to the right, otherwise it's too close to ^ , in case you've apllied it, not sure though, just making it sure
17:23 Irreversible: 00:08:336 (2) - this blanket can actually be improved it you move the last white tick 1 little tiny bit to the left
17:23 Leader: triangle is perfect now btw
17:24 Irreversible: 00:09:426 (6,7) - click on this <- and move both it like this, that it says 448 144
17:24 Leader: uuh ok
17:25 Irreversible: 00:10:336 (1) - it's possible, but please, the finish is on the big white tick and imo a beat that shouldn't be left behind -
17:25 Irreversible: so you should arrange it like that, that there is something to click : replace by 1 circle and 1 slider.
17:26 Irreversible: 00:10:881 (2) - move to 244 232 to make your triangle pattern even more perfect.
17:27 Leader: mm
17:27 Leader: got it
17:27 Irreversible: i also have a suggestion for the rhythm thing, for the replacement:
17:27 Irreversible: if you have a circle 00:10:336 (10) - , stack it with 00:10:881 (2) -
17:27 Irreversible: the piano would be emphasized with the jump
17:27 Irreversible: 00:12:699 (4) - is this no-blanket on purpose? - if not, fix it <3
17:28 Irreversible: 00:13:245 (5) - well up to you, but what about moving it to 348 60? it would actually follow the given flow, and gives a nice drop-lead in to the next slider.
17:28 Leader: no-blanket is fine ):
17:28 Irreversible: alright :3
17:29 Irreversible: 00:13:972 (7) - don't you think yourself this does totally not fit your quality that you've mapped like before?
17:29 Leader: also 1.7 spacing
17:29 Leader: uh
17:29 Irreversible: it's just so near to the 6..
17:29 Irreversible: oh
17:29 Irreversible: it can be less
17:29 Irreversible: but just that you follow the path
17:29 Leader: yup, done
17:30 Irreversible: 00:13:426 (6,7,8) - well imo this whole pattern just doesn't look really good
17:30 Irreversible: it's up to you if you want to tidy up, just tell me if you think the same, i'm glad helping you finding smth different :3
17:31 Irreversible: 00:17:063 (3) - whta about moving it a bit more up? i can show you why, lemme draw smth again LOL
17:31 Leader: flows great imo
17:32 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/4z7MG.jpg 00:17:063 (3) -
17:32 Irreversible: for this
17:32 Irreversible: 00:17:063 (3) -
17:32 Leader: and also no <.<, it's okay as it is
17:32 Irreversible: but let's assume this is the normal DS
17:32 Irreversible: (and there is a slider)
17:32 Irreversible: it would be more downwards
17:32 Irreversible: just to follow consistency
17:32 Irreversible: if you move it a bit more upwards, it's the same, just that it's .. at the top
17:33 Irreversible: looks like you follow DS though
17:33 Leader: oh, ok then
17:33 Leader: LOL
17:33 Irreversible: gotcha
17:33 Irreversible: HUA
17:33 Irreversible: xD
17:33 Irreversible: 00:18:517 (5,6,1) - what happened with the hitsounds here?
17:34 Leader: i forgot a clap
17:34 Leader: apparently
17:34 Irreversible: and a whistle i guess
17:34 Leader: yup
17:34 Leader: ;;
17:34 Irreversible: 00:24:336 (3) - add a whistle my friend <3
17:35 Irreversible: 00:26:608 (1) - add whislte , 00:29:426 (1) - add finish on it's tail
17:35 Leader: head or tail
17:35 Irreversible: head
17:35 Irreversible: uh
17:35 Irreversible: wait
17:35 Irreversible: head
17:35 Irreversible: 00:23:608 (1) - and whistle on the tail here
17:36 Irreversible: 3) to emphasize the piano
17:36 Irreversible: 1) to follow the pattern itself
17:36 Leader: there's a whistle on tail already <.<
17:36 Irreversible: i mean
17:36 Irreversible: end
17:36 Irreversible: o,o
17:37 Leader: i'm talking of 00:24:336 (3) -
17:37 Irreversible: head
17:37 Irreversible: there
17:37 Leader: no, because there's in tail already anyway
17:37 Irreversible: tail??
17:37 Leader: also have to go soon, I think
17:37 Irreversible: ew D:
17:37 Leader: whistle in both head and tail
17:37 Leader: sounds bad
17:37 Irreversible: well normally you put a finish on the start
17:38 Irreversible: wait what
17:38 Irreversible: 00:25:063 (5) -
17:38 Irreversible: it's to follow this
17:38 Irreversible: it is the same LOL
17:38 Irreversible: (forget the finish=
17:39 Leader: i'm kinda retarted today
17:39 Leader: yey
17:39 Irreversible: should i stop now? o.o
17:39 Leader: nono
17:39 Irreversible: ehm
17:39 Irreversible: we can do it like this
17:39 Irreversible: i just tell you the other things
17:39 Irreversible: and then you upload
17:39 Irreversible: and i fix some hitsounds
17:39 Irreversible: where you forgot it
17:40 Irreversible: (nothing else)
17:40 Leader: oh, okay
17:40 Leader: if you prefer to do that
17:40 Irreversible: or i fix everything
17:40 Irreversible: HUE
17:40 Irreversible: xD
17:40 Irreversible: well idk
17:40 Irreversible: you can tell
17:40 Irreversible: where was I..
17:40 Irreversible: 00:29:790 (2) - whislte on the head
17:41 Irreversible: 00:30:154 (3,4,5) - i see what you wanted to do here, but to make it better, 5 should be rotated more to the right shouldn't it?
17:41 Irreversible: 00:30:881 (4,5,1) - and pls, triangle pattern, it's just for some polishment. (and i don't think it would hurt your mapping style, does it? if it does just tell me lol9
17:42 Irreversible: 00:35:245 (2) - finish, not whistle on the head
17:42 Leader: mhm, that pattern is fine
17:42 Leader: okay to finish
17:43 Irreversible: 00:37:790 (4) - if you wanna go on with the clap pattern i'd add one..
17:43 Irreversible: doesn't fit really though
17:43 Irreversible: how about leaving it
17:43 Irreversible: kthxbye
17:43 Irreversible: 00:38:881 (7) - NC i suppose?
17:43 Leader: wtf
17:43 Irreversible: due to.. new.. part?
17:43 Leader: yup
17:44 Irreversible: 00:42:154 (4) - but here you should definetly add a claop
17:44 Irreversible: because it's the last white tick before a new one starts (sry i dunno those upbeat downbeat stuff etc.)
17:44 Irreversible: 00:43:972 (6) - finish to get rid of lame whistles
17:45 Irreversible: 00:49:063 (6) - first of all, this is a bad made blanket, secondly it's a bit too close for my taste, what about moving it a little to the lefT?
17:45 Leader: oookay ;w;
17:45 Leader: i do suck a lot on hitsounds
17:45 Irreversible: 00:49:426 (7) - normally you've used 0.69 for 1/4 , here 0.46. please fix
17:45 Irreversible: 00:42:154 (4) - and here 0.74, well it would be nice if you made it similar
17:45 Irreversible: 00:44:063 (1) - those spinners annoy me, too many of them orz
17:46 Leader: ;w;
17:46 Irreversible: 01:01:790 (2,3) - remember my painting before with the' let's assume there is a circle blabla'.. same here
17:46 Leader: will remove some
17:46 Irreversible: that would be cool :P
17:46 Leader: 1/4 are not similar but that's intentional
17:46 Irreversible: well i see, but in the same parts you should use the same DS
17:47 Irreversible: 00:49:426 (7) - 00:42:154 (4) - a nd those two are the 'same part' if you compare the rhythm
17:47 Irreversible: no they aren't
17:47 Irreversible: ignore me
17:47 Leader: ye but not same pattern :p
17:47 Irreversible: NAZI POLICY OMG 01:02:426 (2,4,7) - 0.21 0.22 0.23 NUKE PLS
17:47 Irreversible: THIS MUST ALL BE THE SMAE NOT 0.1 DS DIFFERENCE OMG LEADER P L S
17:48 Irreversible: 01:09:426 (3) - sounds so harsh q.q i'd extend it by one rotate, sounds better itself but would technically be overmapped, up to you
17:48 Leader: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
17:48 Leader: i forgot to stack 4
17:48 Leader: ok
17:48 Irreversible: 01:10:154 (1) - 80% finish
17:49 Irreversible: 01:18:426 (8,9,1,2,3) - ciao bella io miss the hitsoundis
17:49 Leader: you killed me
17:49 Leader: bye
17:49 Leader: rofl
17:49 Irreversible: why? XD
17:49 Leader: ciao bella io miss the hitsoundis
17:49 Leader: qotd
17:50 Irreversible: 01:19:790 (7) - the same thing as before, and here it's rhythmcally wrong too i suppose .. what about a single circle 01:19:790 (7) - and 01:19:972 (8) - ?XD
17:50 Irreversible: lol haha mio pro italiano
17:51 Leader: i think that pattern is fine
17:51 Leader: o,o
17:51 Irreversible: the pattern is
17:51 Irreversible: the rhythm isn't
17:51 Leader: it is too
17:51 Irreversible: alright then
17:52 Irreversible: 01:25:063 (4) - a bit to the right, remember my drawing
17:52 Irreversible: it'll haunt you in your dreams
17:52 Irreversible: 01:28:336 (6,7,8) - MIO AMORE IO VOGLIO UNO BISCOTTI (hitsounds)
17:53 Irreversible: 01:56:699 (1) - you missed a finish here too..
17:53 Leader: OK TESORO
17:53 Irreversible: 02:01:790 (7,8,9) - why did you decrease SV here?
17:54 Irreversible: DS*
17:55 Leader: should plays fine now
17:55 Leader: fixed
17:55 Leader: *play
17:55 Leader: aah ;_;
17:55 Irreversible: 02:06:154 (4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/4z8Bt.jpg you might overthink it, the same thing again
17:55 Irreversible: 02:05:245 - DS change too, seems just a bit odd
17:55 Irreversible: 02:05:426 (1) - * sorry
17:56 Irreversible: 02:11:972 (1) - if you made this curve http://puu.sh/4z8Dg.jpg like that it would improve the flow very much O__O
17:56 Irreversible: it leads the next things in more
17:56 Leader: nazi
17:56 Irreversible: and about the DS, it's up to you, just some consistency mod
17:57 Leader: fixed done and done blabla
17:57 Leader: :3
17:57 Irreversible: 02:19:245 (1,1,1) - oh and btw a tip for these things
17:57 Irreversible: it's a super cool effect if you make 5% on each slider end
17:57 Irreversible: 02:24:881 (2) - 128 108 same as usual
17:57 Irreversible: 02:33:972 (1) - hitsound
17:57 Irreversible: whistle i guess
17:58 Irreversible: 02:40:426 (1) - add a finish to build up tension
17:58 Irreversible: 02:43:245 (1) - add 100 to let the tension out of this and omg BAMMM miss
17:58 Irreversible: loljk
17:58 Irreversible: 100%
17:59 Leader: 70% i'd say
17:59 Leader: OK DONE
17:59 Irreversible: ehm
17:59 Irreversible: i'd say 100
17:59 Irreversible: loljk
18:00 Irreversible: omg try 300%
18:00 Irreversible: hack eeet
18:00 Irreversible: loljk
18:00 Irreversible: 00:23:608 (1) -
18:00 Leader: oh right
18:00 Leader: is it possible?
18:00 Irreversible: wrong DS
18:00 Irreversible: in compare with the stream
18:00 Irreversible: pls leader pls

good luck, and take a star <3
Damnae
Elite Storyboarder
640 posts
Joined July 2011
Damnae
hi, mostly suggestions

Lunatic

00:03:972 (1) - remove whistle and either
  1. add one at 00:04:154 (2) - to follow that kick sound,
  2. or add one at 00:04:336 (3) - here for that louder piano sound, and also remove it from 00:04:517 (4) - ?
00:09:426 (6,7) - bring them closer like you did with 01:30:881 (4,5) - ? looks more readable to me.
00:12:517 (3,4) - blanket them ?
00:14:154 (8) - ctrl-g ?
00:18:154 (4) - ctrl-g ?
00:18:154 (4,5) - fix this blanket
00:21:063 (5,6) - same as 00:09:426 (6,7) -
00:24:245 - add a circle here ?
00:25:790 (8,9) - move them to the left so they don't overlap with 00:25:426 (7) -
00:37:608 (3,4) - ctrl-g and move then around so that it looks like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1011090 ?
00:42:154 (4,1) - the movement between these two would feel better like this : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1011035. screenshot also contains some suggestions for what come after that slider.
00:43:426 (3) - and 00:43:790 (5) - remove whistle ?
00:43:972 (6) - whistle instead of finish ?
00:49:790 (8) - finish (40% volume) instead of whistle ?
00:49:972 (1) - not sure why this spinner is 1/2 after the note while the others are 1/4 after it
00:55:608 (1) - finish (40% volume) instead of whistle ?
00:59:972 (3) - ctrl-g ?
01:32:517 (4) - whistle ?
01:32:699 (6,7,8,9,10) - whistle on each, and finish on 10 ?
Jaxalotl
189 posts
Joined December 2012
Jaxalotl
Easy
00:23:245 Slider ends here
ALL I FOUND xD
Lally
3,177 posts
Joined December 2011
Lally
dalla mia m4m q,scusa il ritardo,ma ho perso tutta la motivazione per osu

[Easy]
  1. 00:22:517 (4) - finiscilo 1/4 prima pls o.o poi lo spacing è anche sbagliato è confonde :V
  2. 00:43:972 - potresti aggiungere un circle quicon un finish e iniziare lo spinner 1/2 dopo
  3. 01:14:517 - non vedo il motivo di interrompere il break qui,secondo me faresti prima a lasciarlo come dalla impostazioni standard messe dall'editor
  4. 01:28:336 (2) - hai dimenticatoilnormal sampleset per questo slider sempbra cosi vuoto senza un qualcosa che da il ritmo ;_;
  5. 01:33:063 (3) - sinceramente suona malissimo questo cerchio perchè a 01:33:426 - si sente chiaramente un suono forte che non p stato mappato io ti consiglierei :
    a) di aggiungere un circle 01:33:426 - qui con un finish o un normal sampleset (a tua preferenza)
    b) o nel caso migliore che la cosa è anche piu' semplice ed esce meglio di far partire uno slider dove attualmente si trova 01:33:063 (3) - e di farlo finire a 01:33:426 - qui
  6. 01:42:154 - invece di interrompere il break qui fai partire uno spinner da qui che finisce a 01:45:063 (1) - (ovviamente eliminalo e rimpiazza lo spinner end con un finish o3o) è piu' gradevole che aspettare che muoia il drain (anche se non lo fa,comunque hai capito cosa intendo,spero)
  7. 01:55:245 (2) - dovresti alzarlo di un paio di grind per creare un flow migliore
    SPOILER
  8. 02:11:245 (3) - finish allo slider start
  9. 02:17:063 - qui tu non mappi proprioil suono del finish che si sente nella musica , perche non aggiungi un circle qui e inizii lo spinner 1/2 dopo?
  10. 02:22:881 (4) - mancanza di normal sampleset sulla reverse e alla fine dello slider
  11. 02:25:790 (2) - nella reverse adda un whistle o normal sampleset :V
  12. 02:38:881 (4) - usa il normal sampleset alla fine dello slider per mantenere la consistenza con la precedente hitsound pattern
[BCI]
  1. 00:10:517 (3,4) - try to place this 2 objects like this ,flows a bit better
    SPOILER

[Hard]
Kodora:
  1. 00:09:063 (3) - is better to make this slider juat curved
  2. 00:49:836 (1) - just why? start it atleas here : 00:49:881 -
  3. 00:55:654 (1) - same
  4. 01:07:290 (1) - same
  5. 01:50:881 (3) - ;_; ugly slider try with something like:
    SPOILER
  6. 02:22:926 (1) - same again ...
  7. 02:26:517 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - i think you should give a bit more untack as it is now,and personally i don't find that this style fits with ZUN
  8. 02:28:745 (1) - same again about the spinners...
  9. 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - imo is kinda weid to have this here,personally it son't fits with this diff, is a hard not a lunatic
Leyko
  1. 01:33:426 (1) - try with a finish here
[Lunatic]
  1. 01:32:336 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - prosegui questo stream fino a 01:33:426 -
  2. 02:24:336 (1,2,3,4) - forma un quadrato con questi,floweranno meglio perchè attualmente il jump diciamo che c'è tra 02:24:336 (1,2) - è molto brutto e flowa male
mota carina questa diff o3o waaaahme gusta molto sei migliorato tanto o3o!! good luck
Kodora
Kodora

Lally wrote:

[Hard]
Kodora:
  1. 00:09:063 (3) - is better to make this slider juat curved that's more bug, it not supposed to looks like this o_o fixed anyway
  2. 00:49:836 (1) - just why? start it atleas here : 00:49:881 - because note & spinner following same note & 1/4 pause really feels too much here
  3. 00:55:654 (1) - same ^
  4. 01:07:290 (1) - same ^
  5. 01:50:881 (3) - ;_; ugly slider try with something like: i love ugly sliders, but changed form a bit anyway
    SPOILER
  6. 02:22:926 (1) - same again ... ye
  7. 02:26:517 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - i think you should give a bit more untack as it is now,and personally i don't find that this style fits with ZUN that part is too repetitive, and it fits enough as for me. also more unstack will looks less tricky :c
  8. 02:28:745 (1) - same again about the spinners... ye
  9. 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - imo is kinda weid to have this here,personally it son't fits with this diff, is a hard not a lunatic 165 bpm 9 notes is common thing for a Hard diff.
Thanks!

SPOILER
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TitleUnicode:黒い海に紅く ～ Legendary Fish
Artist:ZUN
ArtistUnicode:ZUN
Creator:Leader
Version:Collab Hard
Source:Touhou
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192,32,120336,2,0,P|248:52|260:136,1,150,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
400,188,121063,2,0,B|376:256|376:256|368:288|384:332,1,150,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
236,304,121790,2,0,P|196:304|160:284,1,75,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
120,200,122154,2,0,L|80:184,2,37.5,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
192,132,122517,6,0,P|256:96|320:132,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,276,123245,2,0,L|464:264,2,112.5,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,324,123972,2,0,L|164:336,2,112.5,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,240,124699,1,2,0:0:0:0:
160,192,124972,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,296,125245,1,0,0:0:0:0:
40,232,125426,6,0,P|64:160|56:84,1,150,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
216,36,126154,2,0,B|244:64|272:68|272:68|364:64,1,150,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
432,100,126699,1,0,0:0:0:0:
476,168,126881,2,0,L|468:320,1,150,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
308,348,127608,2,0,L|311:273,1,75
256,192,127972,2,0,L|272:152,3,37.5,0|0|0|0,1:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,128,128336,6,0,P|204:80|128:80,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
56,136,129063,1,0,1:0:0:0:
176,196,129336,1,0,1:0:0:0:
64,272,129608,1,0,1:0:0:0:
112,340,129790,6,0,P|184:316|260:320,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,280,130336,2,0,L|472:228,1,150,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
468,148,130881,2,0,P|432:140|400:120,1,75,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,48,131245,1,0,1:0:0:0:
348,44,131972,5,0,1:0:0:0:
216,112,132245,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,192,132517,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,116,132699,1,0,1:0:0:0:
172,184,132972,1,0,1:0:0:0:
296,264,133244,1,0,1:0:0:0:
256,192,133426,1,0,1:0:0:0:
132,116,133699,1,0,1:0:0:0:
132,268,133972,1,0,1:0:0:0:
188,328,134154,6,0,P|256:356|324:328,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,156,134881,1,0,1:0:0:0:
256,80,135154,1,0,1:0:0:0:
144,156,135426,1,0,1:0:0:0:
184,228,135608,6,0,P|224:168|200:96,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,40,136154,2,0,B|96:56|56:40|56:40|72:72|64:108,1,150,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
40,176,136699,2,0,L|56:252,1,75,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,316,137063,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137245,12,0,138517,1:0:0:0:
184,120,138881,6,0,L|168:80,2,37.5,0|0|0,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,188,139245,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,188,139608,1,4,0:0:0:0:
392,88,139972,6,0,P|424:152|408:256,1,150,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
361,297,140517,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,296,140699,2,0,B|240:296|216:344|216:344|192:296|128:296,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,257,141245,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,176,141426,2,0,L|8:96,2,112.5,2|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,120,142154,2,0,L|128:0,2,112.5,2|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,120,142881,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142926,12,0,145426,0:0:0:0:
128,80,145790,6,0,L|312:80,1,150,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,120,146336,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,208,146517,6,0,P|344:247|290:259,1,112.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,112,147063,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,216,147245,6,0,P|333:261|257:260,1,112.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,120,147791,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,224,147972,6,0,P|333:269|257:268,1,112.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,136,148517,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,136,148699,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,148745,12,0,150881,0:0:0:0:
128,104,151245,5,0,1:0:0:0:
128,104,151426,1,2,0:0:0:0:
128,104,151608,2,0,P|224:96|288:48,1,150,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,128,152154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,176,152336,2,0,L|464:72,2,112.5,0|0|0,1:0|1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
384,264,153063,1,6,1:2:0:0:
136,296,153608,5,2,1:2:0:0:
168,136,153972,1,2,0:0:0:0:
135,51,154154,1,0,1:0:0:0:
220,22,154336,1,2,0:0:0:0:
253,105,154517,1,4,1:1:0:0:
416,240,155245,6,0,P|448:288|448:360,2,112.5,0|2|0,1:0|0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,224,155972,2,0,L|256:352,2,112.5,0|2|0,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,240,156699,2,0,P|64:288|64:360,2,112.5,0|2|0,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,136,157426,1,4,0:0:0:0:
144,136,158154,5,0,1:0:0:0:
272,104,158426,1,0,1:0:0:0:
224,232,158699,1,0,1:0:0:0:
192,40,158881,1,0,1:0:0:0:
312,280,159426,5,0,1:0:0:0:
430,143,159790,1,2,0:0:0:0:
327,80,159972,1,0,1:0:0:0:
335,194,160154,1,2,0:0:0:0:
415,41,160336,1,0,1:0:0:0:
256,192,160426,12,4,161790,0:0:0:0:
256,192,162517,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,162607,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,162698,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,162789,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,162880,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,162971,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,163062,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,163153,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,163244,5,4,0:0:0:0:
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Thor wrote:

Easy
00:23:245 Slider ends here
ALL I FOUND xD
My mistake, fixed. Thank you for pointing it out!

Lally

Lally wrote:

dalla mia m4m q,scusa il ritardo,ma ho perso tutta la motivazione per osu

[Easy]
  1. 00:22:517 (4) - finiscilo 1/4 prima pls o.o poi lo spacing è anche sbagliato è confonde :V Erroraccio mio ahah
  2. 00:43:972 - potresti aggiungere un circle quicon un finish e iniziare lo spinner 1/2 dopo Non mi piace nelle Easy orz
  3. 01:14:517 - non vedo il motivo di interrompere il break qui,secondo me faresti prima a lasciarlo come dalla impostazioni standard messe dall'editor Boh, avrò toccato qualcosa a random
  4. 01:28:336 (2) - hai dimenticatoilnormal sampleset per questo slider sempbra cosi vuoto senza un qualcosa che da il ritmo ;_;
  5. 01:33:063 (3) - sinceramente suona malissimo questo cerchio perchè a 01:33:426 - si sente chiaramente un suono forte che non p stato mappato io ti consiglierei :
    a) di aggiungere un circle 01:33:426 - qui con un finish o un normal sampleset (a tua preferenza)
    b) o nel caso migliore che la cosa è anche piu' semplice ed esce meglio di far partire uno slider dove attualmente si trova 01:33:063 (3) - e di farlo finire a 01:33:426 - qui
  6. 01:42:154 - invece di interrompere il break qui fai partire uno spinner da qui che finisce a 01:45:063 (1) - (ovviamente eliminalo e rimpiazza lo spinner end con un finish o3o) è piu' gradevole che aspettare che muoia il drain (anche se non lo fa,comunque hai capito cosa intendo,spero)
  7. 01:55:245 (2) - dovresti alzarlo di un paio di grind per creare un flow migliore
    SPOILER
  8. 02:11:245 (3) - finish allo slider start
  9. 02:17:063 - qui tu non mappi proprioil suono del finish che si sente nella musica , perche non aggiungi un circle qui e inizii lo spinner 1/2 dopo?
  10. 02:22:881 (4) - mancanza di normal sampleset sulla reverse e alla fine dello slider
  11. 02:25:790 (2) - nella reverse adda un whistle o normal sampleset :V
  12. 02:38:881 (4) - usa il normal sampleset alla fine dello slider per mantenere la consistenza con la precedente hitsound pattern
[BCI]
  1. 00:10:517 (3,4) - try to place this 2 objects like this ,flows a bit better It's okay as it is
    SPOILER
[Lunatic]
  1. 01:32:336 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - prosegui questo stream fino a 01:33:426 - No, si sente bene il suono su cui ho mappato lo stream e lì non c'è
  2. 02:24:336 (1,2,3,4) - forma un quadrato con questi,floweranno meglio perchè attualmente il jump diciamo che c'è tra 02:24:336 (1,2) - è molto brutto e flowa male
mota carina questa diff o3o waaaahme gusta molto sei migliorato tanto o3o!! good luck Ty ><

Thaaaanks!
karterfreak
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Not sure if you're still working on this map, but I noticed some unrankable issues while trying the Inner Oni by Dunskin

[Dunskin's Inner Oni]

00:22:972 (39,40) - Doubled note, delete one here.

00:58:245 (45,44) - ^

01:32:790 (41,40) - ^

01:56:063 (37,38) - ^

02:31:336 (49,48) - ^

The difficulty itself is pretty good though :)

[714's Muzukashii]

00:38:881 (136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145) and 01:02:154 (225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234) - Honestly I find the pattern you used in the Oni for these two sections is a lot better than what you have here and isn't any more difficult. I suggest using the patterns from the Oni here.
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Fixed that stuff in Muzukashii because 714-chan is pretty busy and can't log often, so I got the permission to fix for them. :3c
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Whatthefu*!!1!1!!11!
Please do as Tasha says and delete these Notes.
Thanks!
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Fixed!
karterfreak
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don kat dadonkat
Kodora
Kodora
omg
Kodora
Kodora
wow double post

Irre asked me to fix something via irc

diff - http://puu.sh/5t8rx.osu
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Kodora pls

IRC modded :3

IRC mod
18:50 *Irreversible is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/286577 ZUN - Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish [Lunatic]]
18:51 Irreversible: 00:04:699 (5) - ctrl + h this shape? flows better
18:51 Irreversible: 00:05:426 (1) - i guess you've made smth wrong here, shouldn't the end be like 50% or even 30%? (volume)
18:52 Irreversible: 00:08:336 (2) - 41 141 just some personal reference
18:52 Leader: it's correct
18:52 Irreversible: i mean 40 143
18:53 Leader: 30% because loud finish sound
18:53 Leader: then back to 50% and then 70% because song is being louder
18:53 Irreversible: 00:10:336 (1) - 257 349 would give a better transition
18:53 Leader: okay fixed the rest
18:54 Leader: kkkk
18:54 Irreversible: 00:10:881 (3) - well the fact that this is turning to left gives a bad flow again.. 00:10:881 (3) - http://puu.sh/5nbkY.jpg what about this
18:54 Irreversible: 00:12:699 (4) - i guess this blanket could be better
18:54 Irreversible: 00:14:154 (8) - same here
18:55 Leader: they seem fine to me
18:55 Irreversible: 00:15:608 (5,6,7,8) - i played this in game and felt rather unconfortable, it was really straight and won't let the player experience a good flow
18:55 Leader: oh god
18:55 Leader: IT SUCKS
18:55 Leader: what do
18:56 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5nbpJ.jpg 1) this blanket isn't well made 00:14:154 (8) -
18:57 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5nbtp.jpg this might be better? the highlighted ones are 3 and 4
18:58 Leader: did you change sliders too
18:58 Irreversible: yes
18:58 Irreversible: i thought curvy would work well
18:59 Leader: great
19:00 Irreversible: i just found out
19:00 Irreversible: 00:14:154 (8) - that i find this placing rather uncool
19:00 Irreversible: in game it looks a bit weird
19:00 Irreversible: the flow is good
19:00 Irreversible: but the stack is
19:00 Irreversible: ruining it?
19:00 Irreversible: 00:14:154 (8) - how about 463 137
19:02 Leader: that's good
19:02 Irreversible: 00:21:063 (5,6) - looks special, plays crap. how about normal stacking? i'd prefer it
19:02 Irreversible: 00:19:245 (1) - ctrl + g for variation, duh
19:03 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5nbMu.jpg you might like this : 00:20:518 (2,3,4,5,6) -
19:03 Irreversible: i don't know, but this is a really big flow breaker for 2 if it's going straight down
19:04 Irreversible: and first of all it goes left like weeeep
19:04 Irreversible: 00:26:154 (8) - pls keep the spacing of 0.69 ;) here
19:05 Leader: nah, i prefer my pattern :2
19:05 Irreversible: then make it a bit nicer
19:05 Irreversible: or the transition at least
19:05 Irreversible: it's really close to 1
19:05 Leader: i'll try
19:05 Leader: why 69
19:05 Leader: lewd
19:05 Irreversible: because the other ones
19:05 Leader: stop talking with mystyk
19:05 Irreversible: are 0.69
19:05 Irreversible: this goes to all 00:35:608 (3) - kind of these sliders
19:05 Irreversible: make them equal spaced
19:05 Irreversible: after the slider
19:06 Irreversible: sometimes its 0.69 then 0.75 then 0.69
19:06 Irreversible: 0.79*
19:06 Irreversible: xD
19:06 Leader: trying to have a max difference of
19:06 Leader: 0.5
19:06 Leader: D:
19:06 Irreversible: you can easily make it proper
19:06 Irreversible: 00:42:517 (1) - blanket according to approach circle
19:07 Irreversible: 00:43:063 (2) - ?
19:07 Irreversible: 00:46:154 (1) - personally, i'd add a straem here instead of your sliders. i can udnerstand what you're trying, but the music is not strong enough imo
19:07 Irreversible: and a stream would actually add a better overall feeling
19:08 Irreversible: 00:49:426 (7) - that's what i call equal spacing
19:08 Irreversible: i lied
19:10 Irreversible: tell me when you're up to date
19:10 Leader: it5g5thghy
19:10 Leader: phone sorry
19:12 Leader: trying to do a stream there
19:13 Irreversible: tell me when i can go on
19:14 Leader: okay done
19:15 Irreversible: when i'm not talking
19:15 Irreversible: you can fix the equal spacing stuff
19:16 Leader: i'm fixing them :x
19:16 Irreversible: 00:43:063 (2) - did you do smth eher?
19:16 Irreversible: here*
19:16 Irreversible: 00:43:426 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is not made proper
19:16 Leader: yup, fixed with a straight slider
19:16 Irreversible: 00:53:426 (5) - 454 151
19:16 Irreversible: 00:54:154 (6) - 278 183
19:17 Irreversible: 00:54:881 (7) - to the left
19:17 Irreversible: 00:59:245 (1) - 427 190 better transition
19:17 Irreversible: 01:03:609 (6,7) - to the left again, always the same basically
19:17 Irreversible: it just looks better if it's not as stuck to the slider as it is now imo
19:18 Irreversible: 01:09:426 (3) - ah well, the rhythm sounds better if you reverse it once more time
19:18 Irreversible: 01:17:426 (6) - blanket
19:18 Irreversible: 01:18:699 (1,2,3) - i would rotate this a bit to <- this side because the transition and the flow will improve
19:19 Irreversible: 01:20:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this stream sounds everything else than straight and boring
19:19 Irreversible: you can hear in the background
19:19 Irreversible: its like
19:19 Irreversible: dubdudellelelealalal
19:19 Leader: "dubdudellelelealalal"
19:19 Leader: wut d u smoke
19:20 Irreversible: pls
19:20 Leader: also it's great :(
19:20 Irreversible: look
19:20 Irreversible: it doesn't sound straight
19:20 Irreversible: or compressed
19:20 Irreversible: it sounds \o/
19:20 Irreversible: listen again and try to place a stream according to the rhythm please
19:21 Leader: I won't change it sorry ;_;
19:21 Irreversible: 01:22:517 (3,4,5,6,7) - i don't like this part
19:21 Irreversible: ^ best comment ever
19:21 Irreversible: omg this stream
19:21 Irreversible: listen to the song closely
19:22 Irreversible: does it sound like this to you? :C
19:22 Leader: muya-ish streams pls :<
19:22 Leader: yes.
19:22 Leader: :D
19:22 Irreversible: no.
19:22 Irreversible: i mean
19:22 Irreversible: if it was all straight ok
19:23 Irreversible: or curvy
19:23 Irreversible: but it's like
19:23 Irreversible: straight and then curvy?
19:23 Irreversible: this is not in the song at all
19:24 Irreversible: 01:20:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
19:24 Irreversible: i'm 100% sure you can do better
19:24 Leader: i used in a way like that
19:24 Leader: to emphatize the music being louder in the refrain
19:24 Irreversible: ..?
19:24 Irreversible: xD
19:25 Irreversible: 01:27:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - NC went nuts here i suppose
19:25 Irreversible: chek that please
19:26 Irreversible: 01:28:336 (6) - mh i would find it better http://puu.sh/5ncTt.jpg like this, also provides a slightly improved flow if you ask me
19:26 Irreversible: 01:29:063 (9) - also blanket
19:26 Leader: NC are fine there o_O
19:26 Irreversible: 01:30:881 (4,5) - mh yeah.. that the doublet goes like <- and it continues like -> just doesn't flow well as well again
19:26 Leader: it's the same as before
19:26 Irreversible: 01:29:063 (9) - this should be a NC according 01:29:790 (1) - to this (single combo not op)
19:27 Irreversible: 01:27:426 (1) - this shouldn't be a NC
19:27 Irreversible: 01:27:608 (3) - NC
19:27 Irreversible: 01:27:426 (1) - ok well this is a bit questionable, i would make it different
19:27 Leader: ok for the first nc
19:28 Leader: also dinner
19:28 Leader: brb
19:28 Irreversible: will continue later then
19:45 Leader: hi
19:48 Irreversible: hi
19:48 Leader: my grandmother is scared
19:49 Leader: now she thinks every banana has an insect in it
19:49 Irreversible: XD
19:49 Irreversible: can you update once
19:50 Leader: ok
19:50 Irreversible: kinda wanna rework this part i mentioned
19:51 Leader: dddone
19:51 Leader: also I have to add melan blue to tags aaa
19:51 Leader: leyko changed nickname
20:00 Irreversible: aha
20:00 Irreversible: o.o
20:00 Irreversible: k
20:00 Irreversible: i think i go on now?
20:00 Leader: r u there
20:00 Leader: sure
20:02 Irreversible: 01:20:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
20:02 Irreversible: so yeah
20:02 Irreversible: about this part
20:03 Irreversible: the stream.. bleh. but the part after.. hm
20:03 Irreversible: 01:22:336 (2,3) - this has a really sharp angle
20:03 Irreversible: and doesn't flow well due to that
20:03 Irreversible: 01:22:336 (2) - the transition between this and 1 isn't so good as well
20:03 Irreversible: (2 should be more donwards)
20:03 Irreversible: 01:22:881 (4) - really sharp again
20:03 Irreversible: 01:23:245 (5,6,7) - and yeah.. the rhythm here seems just a bit odd in compare to the rest, where i actually liked it
20:04 Irreversible: also the flowing there.. not so good imo
20:04 Irreversible: 01:31:608 (7,8) - http://puu.sh/5nf8y.jpg what about something like this, flows better as well
20:05 Irreversible: 01:33:426 - what about adding a circle with finish here? o.o would be kinda cool to into the break like this.
20:06 Irreversible: 01:48:699 (1) - hm.. NC? also, for that piano part here, this pattern seems a bit not very thoughtful (or is it?) how about something .. like a tick zack pattern or so
20:06 Irreversible: 01:50:881 (3,4,5) - watch the spacing between the heads of them
20:07 Leader: i'm fixing that weird rhythm
20:07 Irreversible: oh should i wait
20:07 Irreversible: xD
20:07 Irreversible: sorry.
20:07 Irreversible: tell me when you've worked through the points
20:08 Irreversible: 01:59:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - as well here, the placement might be fine, but the quality of it just isn't
20:09 Irreversible: i'd like you to fix all those places and see where to keep consistencys with the spacing etc..
20:09 Irreversible: (basically the same with this 0.69 problem)
20:09 Leader: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1113163 being bastard
20:09 Leader: :D
20:09 Irreversible: my bubbles require a quite perfect map according nazi stuff so yeah
20:10 Irreversible: move 1 a bit to the right.
20:10 Irreversible: xD
20:10 Irreversible: just a little tiny bit
20:10 Irreversible: haha
20:12 Leader: ok done i guess
20:12 Irreversible: what did you not fix?
20:13 Leader: 01:48:699 :(
20:13 Leader: because I don't have any good idea
20:13 Leader: and already looks fine
20:17 Irreversible: dat big mod
20:17 Irreversible: xD
20:18 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5nfZj.jpg hab sum suggestions
20:19 Irreversible: 01:54:154 (3,4,5,6) - 285 350 for a better tirangle
20:20 Leader: k xD
20:20 Irreversible: 01:55:245 (2,3,4,5) -
20:20 Irreversible: quite optional
20:20 Irreversible: what do you think of making +1 reverse each?
20:20 Irreversible: with other placing ofc, but following the piano is cooler imo, but you can leave it if you like
20:21 Irreversible: 02:02:881 (2) - and again, why is this now fully stacked? :s well, you can leave it i guess.. but just some thoughts
20:22 Leader: oh god
20:22 Leader: it's awesome
20:22 Leader: with this spacing
20:22 Leader: lol
20:22 Irreversible: the +1 reverse?
20:22 Irreversible: or the stacking
20:22 Leader: +1 reverse
20:22 Irreversible: xD okay
20:23 Irreversible: 02:24:881 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - maybe try to get some structure in here..?
20:24 Irreversible: 02:34:881 (4) - missing hitsound
20:25 Irreversible: 02:34:517 (3,4) - missing hitsounds
20:25 Irreversible: go over your kiai and check for hitsounds..
20:25 Irreversible: 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - maybe increase spacing?
20:26 Irreversible: 02:06:972 (6) - NC to announce the calmer density
20:26 Irreversible: 02:30:699 (2) - 2close2theslider
20:27 Leader: fixed hitsounds i guess
20:28 Leader: and structure should be better
20:28 Irreversible: ah well
20:28 Irreversible: for now that's it for your insane
20:28 Irreversible: go over it again
20:28 Irreversible: and fix the unconsistencies
20:28 Irreversible: according to DS
20:28 Irreversible: a mod prbably won't help, that's up to you now
20:28 Leader: 02:07:245 this is not fixed
20:28 Leader: just that
20:32 Irreversible: alright

Fixed basically things that ruint the flow in insane, also paid a lot of attention on doing things even more proper, such as weird spacing.
Easy normal and hard were modded too, just minor changes there!

Tell me when updated :)
Leader
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Thank you, Irre :3
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Sorry for letting you wait that long :(

But let's go now :D

Bubbled!
Stefan
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Ranked!!
Lally
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Lally
pro rank xD
BeatofIke
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BeatofIke
lol
Leader
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Stefan wrote:

Ranked!!
...(´･ω･`)
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito
That's not how it works.
Momochikun
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Momochikun
Oh it's bubbled already.
Good Luck huehue :3
sjoy
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sjoy
ZUN~
Andrea
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Andrea
~Easy~
  1. 01:45:790 (2) - Consider adding a NC here, since this note follows a spinner.
  2. 02:25:790 (2) - This slider almost goes off-screen, move it up a bit please.
~BCI's Normal~
  1. 01:58:154 (3) - Make this slider more curved, it's too cramped right now.
~Collab Hard~
  1. 00:58:517 (3,4,5) - It would be nicer if the spacing here is consistent.
  2. 01:49:245 (4,1,1,1,1) - I don't think such jumps are a good idea for a Hard, I'd reduce them a bit.
  3. 01:50:881 (3) - Add a finish at the begin of this slider to emphasize with the music.
  4. 02:08:336 (1,2) - Wrong spacing here, make sure to space it properly.
  5. 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This stream might be a bit too evil for a Hard difficulty, especially if placed at the end. I suggest you to change it with some sliders instead.
~Lunatic~
  1. 00:29:426 (1) - Remove the whistle at the begin of this slider and add a finish instead.
  2. 00:41:063 (1) - Same as above.
  3. 00:52:699 (3) - ^
  4. 00:58:517 (5) - ^ I won't mention the rest, hope you've got my idea.
  5. 01:20:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This whole stream feels too blank without hitsounds, add some.
  6. 02:15:608 (5) - Remove the clap from this slider end, it sounds out of place.
  7. 02:19:245 (1,1) - Do not completely silence these slider ends, it's not allowed anymore.
  8. 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This whole stream feels too blank without hitsounds, add some.
Leader
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Fixed everything except the finishes stuff (keeping the whistles), thank you :3
Kodora
Kodora
All fixed, thank you Andrea
Andrea
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Okay, after some small fixes on IRC this map is ready to go.

SPOILER
20:11 Leader: oh
20:11 Leader: finalmente finito
20:12 Andrea: alleluja
20:12 Andrea: linka
20:14 *Leader is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/286577 ZUN - Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish [Lunatic]]
20:26 Andrea: la normal senza BG?
20:26 Andrea: wat?
20:27 Leader: whoooooooooops
20:27 Leader: k messo
20:27 Andrea: xD
20:28 Andrea: hai già fixato?
20:28 Leader: sì
20:28 Andrea: riscarico
20:28 Leader: se hai altro da fixare
20:28 Leader: sennò submitto
20:28 Leader: lol
20:28 Andrea: submitta
20:28 Andrea: devo riscaricare per esserne sicuro
20:29 Leader: done
20:30 Andrea: "update to latest version"
20:30 Andrea: mi sa che la ha submittata male D:
20:31 Leader: ...lol
20:31 Leader: prova ora
20:31 Andrea: riscarico x3
20:31 Andrea: funge
20:31 Leader: strano
20:31 Leader: LOL
20:33 Andrea: sempre nella normal
20:33 Andrea: 01:58:154 (3) - hai cambiato lo slider ma il whistle all'inizio dov'è? D:
20:34 Leader: non c'era già prima
20:34 Leader: i swear
20:34 Andrea: ma nella pattern successiva usa i whistle in tutti e 3 i sliders
20:34 Andrea: è inconsistente x_x
20:34 Leader: sì, notato
20:34 Leader: ficsed
20:35 Andrea: okay nella hard
20:35 Andrea: 02:08:336 (1,2) - questo spacing non è stato fixato...
20:35 Andrea: non è di Kodora
20:35 Andrea: quindi puoi fixarlo anche tu
20:36 Leader: kk
20:36 Leader: i miei guest mappers sono sempre ritardati
20:36 Andrea: il resto è molto meglio
20:36 Andrea: ma parecchio
20:36 Andrea: haha xD
20:39 Leader: ok uppo
20:39 Andrea: bene
20:40 Leader: ftt
20:41 Andrea: la hard non l'hai fixata?
20:42 Leader: o_o?
20:42 Leader: wtf
20:42 Andrea: 02:09:063 (2) -
20:42 Andrea: guarda la distanza
20:42 Andrea: 0.69x - 1.19x
20:42 Andrea: è troppo vicino al (1)
20:43 Leader: ah intendevi quella fg
20:44 Andrea: yep o3o
20:44 Leader: misunderstanding o3o
20:44 Leader: ficsed
20:45 Andrea: stupendo ora
20:45 Andrea: riscarico ultima volta
20:47 Andrea: ho trovato 1 altra cosa Dx
20:47 Andrea: i colori nella hard sono diversi dalle altre diff di standard
20:47 Leader: OH VERO
20:49 Leader: shld b fn
20:51 Andrea: finalmente è tutto OK

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Secretpipe
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Gratz Leader :D
AruOtta
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Congratz ^w^
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gz <3
BeatofIke
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Congratulations! Leader! :3
osu! needs more ZUN! *runs* o.o

EDIT: Thanks for the correction Konei XD
EDIT2: Leader so moe o3o
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Konei
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BeatofIke wrote:

Congratulations! Kodora :3


Well then xD
Irreversible
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It's fine, nobody has seen it, Ike.

Except me and Konei.
and many other people.

just kidding obviously <3
Kodora
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yay, it was waiting for a long time <3
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Touhou <3
TKS
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Leader saaaaan omedetou!
Melan Blue
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Yaay! Gratz, guys! :) (I'm so slow ._.')
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<3 this theme
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