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ZUN - Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish [Taiko|Osu]

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Kodora
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Irre asked me to fix something via irc

diff - http://puu.sh/5t8rx.osu
Irreversible


Kodora pls

IRC modded :3

IRC mod
18:50 *Irreversible is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/286577 ZUN - Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish [Lunatic]]
18:51 Irreversible: 00:04:699 (5) - ctrl + h this shape? flows better
18:51 Irreversible: 00:05:426 (1) - i guess you've made smth wrong here, shouldn't the end be like 50% or even 30%? (volume)
18:52 Irreversible: 00:08:336 (2) - 41 141 just some personal reference
18:52 Leader: it's correct
18:52 Irreversible: i mean 40 143
18:53 Leader: 30% because loud finish sound
18:53 Leader: then back to 50% and then 70% because song is being louder
18:53 Irreversible: 00:10:336 (1) - 257 349 would give a better transition
18:53 Leader: okay fixed the rest
18:54 Leader: kkkk
18:54 Irreversible: 00:10:881 (3) - well the fact that this is turning to left gives a bad flow again.. 00:10:881 (3) - http://puu.sh/5nbkY.jpg what about this
18:54 Irreversible: 00:12:699 (4) - i guess this blanket could be better
18:54 Irreversible: 00:14:154 (8) - same here
18:55 Leader: they seem fine to me
18:55 Irreversible: 00:15:608 (5,6,7,8) - i played this in game and felt rather unconfortable, it was really straight and won't let the player experience a good flow
18:55 Leader: oh god
18:55 Leader: IT SUCKS
18:55 Leader: what do
18:56 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5nbpJ.jpg 1) this blanket isn't well made 00:14:154 (8) -
18:57 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5nbtp.jpg this might be better? the highlighted ones are 3 and 4
18:58 Leader: did you change sliders too
18:58 Irreversible: yes
18:58 Irreversible: i thought curvy would work well
18:59 Leader: great
19:00 Irreversible: i just found out
19:00 Irreversible: 00:14:154 (8) - that i find this placing rather uncool
19:00 Irreversible: in game it looks a bit weird
19:00 Irreversible: the flow is good
19:00 Irreversible: but the stack is
19:00 Irreversible: ruining it?
19:00 Irreversible: 00:14:154 (8) - how about 463 137
19:02 Leader: that's good
19:02 Irreversible: 00:21:063 (5,6) - looks special, plays crap. how about normal stacking? i'd prefer it
19:02 Irreversible: 00:19:245 (1) - ctrl + g for variation, duh
19:03 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5nbMu.jpg you might like this : 00:20:518 (2,3,4,5,6) -
19:03 Irreversible: i don't know, but this is a really big flow breaker for 2 if it's going straight down
19:04 Irreversible: and first of all it goes left like weeeep
19:04 Irreversible: 00:26:154 (8) - pls keep the spacing of 0.69 ;) here
19:05 Leader: nah, i prefer my pattern :2
19:05 Irreversible: then make it a bit nicer
19:05 Irreversible: or the transition at least
19:05 Irreversible: it's really close to 1
19:05 Leader: i'll try
19:05 Leader: why 69
19:05 Leader: lewd
19:05 Irreversible: because the other ones
19:05 Leader: stop talking with mystyk
19:05 Irreversible: are 0.69
19:05 Irreversible: this goes to all 00:35:608 (3) - kind of these sliders
19:05 Irreversible: make them equal spaced
19:05 Irreversible: after the slider
19:06 Irreversible: sometimes its 0.69 then 0.75 then 0.69
19:06 Irreversible: 0.79*
19:06 Irreversible: xD
19:06 Leader: trying to have a max difference of
19:06 Leader: 0.5
19:06 Leader: D:
19:06 Irreversible: you can easily make it proper
19:06 Irreversible: 00:42:517 (1) - blanket according to approach circle
19:07 Irreversible: 00:43:063 (2) - ?
19:07 Irreversible: 00:46:154 (1) - personally, i'd add a straem here instead of your sliders. i can udnerstand what you're trying, but the music is not strong enough imo
19:07 Irreversible: and a stream would actually add a better overall feeling
19:08 Irreversible: 00:49:426 (7) - that's what i call equal spacing
19:08 Irreversible: i lied
19:10 Irreversible: tell me when you're up to date
19:10 Leader: it5g5thghy
19:10 Leader: phone sorry
19:12 Leader: trying to do a stream there
19:13 Irreversible: tell me when i can go on
19:14 Leader: okay done
19:15 Irreversible: when i'm not talking
19:15 Irreversible: you can fix the equal spacing stuff
19:16 Leader: i'm fixing them :x
19:16 Irreversible: 00:43:063 (2) - did you do smth eher?
19:16 Irreversible: here*
19:16 Irreversible: 00:43:426 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is not made proper
19:16 Leader: yup, fixed with a straight slider
19:16 Irreversible: 00:53:426 (5) - 454 151
19:16 Irreversible: 00:54:154 (6) - 278 183
19:17 Irreversible: 00:54:881 (7) - to the left
19:17 Irreversible: 00:59:245 (1) - 427 190 better transition
19:17 Irreversible: 01:03:609 (6,7) - to the left again, always the same basically
19:17 Irreversible: it just looks better if it's not as stuck to the slider as it is now imo
19:18 Irreversible: 01:09:426 (3) - ah well, the rhythm sounds better if you reverse it once more time
19:18 Irreversible: 01:17:426 (6) - blanket
19:18 Irreversible: 01:18:699 (1,2,3) - i would rotate this a bit to <- this side because the transition and the flow will improve
19:19 Irreversible: 01:20:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this stream sounds everything else than straight and boring
19:19 Irreversible: you can hear in the background
19:19 Irreversible: its like
19:19 Irreversible: dubdudellelelealalal
19:19 Leader: "dubdudellelelealalal"
19:19 Leader: wut d u smoke
19:20 Irreversible: pls
19:20 Leader: also it's great :(
19:20 Irreversible: look
19:20 Irreversible: it doesn't sound straight
19:20 Irreversible: or compressed
19:20 Irreversible: it sounds \o/
19:20 Irreversible: listen again and try to place a stream according to the rhythm please
19:21 Leader: I won't change it sorry ;_;
19:21 Irreversible: 01:22:517 (3,4,5,6,7) - i don't like this part
19:21 Irreversible: ^ best comment ever
19:21 Irreversible: omg this stream
19:21 Irreversible: listen to the song closely
19:22 Irreversible: does it sound like this to you? :C
19:22 Leader: muya-ish streams pls :<
19:22 Leader: yes.
19:22 Leader: :D
19:22 Irreversible: no.
19:22 Irreversible: i mean
19:22 Irreversible: if it was all straight ok
19:23 Irreversible: or curvy
19:23 Irreversible: but it's like
19:23 Irreversible: straight and then curvy?
19:23 Irreversible: this is not in the song at all
19:24 Irreversible: 01:20:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
19:24 Irreversible: i'm 100% sure you can do better
19:24 Leader: i used in a way like that
19:24 Leader: to emphatize the music being louder in the refrain
19:24 Irreversible: ..?
19:24 Irreversible: xD
19:25 Irreversible: 01:27:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - NC went nuts here i suppose
19:25 Irreversible: chek that please
19:26 Irreversible: 01:28:336 (6) - mh i would find it better http://puu.sh/5ncTt.jpg like this, also provides a slightly improved flow if you ask me
19:26 Irreversible: 01:29:063 (9) - also blanket
19:26 Leader: NC are fine there o_O
19:26 Irreversible: 01:30:881 (4,5) - mh yeah.. that the doublet goes like <- and it continues like -> just doesn't flow well as well again
19:26 Leader: it's the same as before
19:26 Irreversible: 01:29:063 (9) - this should be a NC according 01:29:790 (1) - to this (single combo not op)
19:27 Irreversible: 01:27:426 (1) - this shouldn't be a NC
19:27 Irreversible: 01:27:608 (3) - NC
19:27 Irreversible: 01:27:426 (1) - ok well this is a bit questionable, i would make it different
19:27 Leader: ok for the first nc
19:28 Leader: also dinner
19:28 Leader: brb
19:28 Irreversible: will continue later then
19:45 Leader: hi
19:48 Irreversible: hi
19:48 Leader: my grandmother is scared
19:49 Leader: now she thinks every banana has an insect in it
19:49 Irreversible: XD
19:49 Irreversible: can you update once
19:50 Leader: ok
19:50 Irreversible: kinda wanna rework this part i mentioned
19:51 Leader: dddone
19:51 Leader: also I have to add melan blue to tags aaa
19:51 Leader: leyko changed nickname
20:00 Irreversible: aha
20:00 Irreversible: o.o
20:00 Irreversible: k
20:00 Irreversible: i think i go on now?
20:00 Leader: r u there
20:00 Leader: sure
20:02 Irreversible: 01:20:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
20:02 Irreversible: so yeah
20:02 Irreversible: about this part
20:03 Irreversible: the stream.. bleh. but the part after.. hm
20:03 Irreversible: 01:22:336 (2,3) - this has a really sharp angle
20:03 Irreversible: and doesn't flow well due to that
20:03 Irreversible: 01:22:336 (2) - the transition between this and 1 isn't so good as well
20:03 Irreversible: (2 should be more donwards)
20:03 Irreversible: 01:22:881 (4) - really sharp again
20:03 Irreversible: 01:23:245 (5,6,7) - and yeah.. the rhythm here seems just a bit odd in compare to the rest, where i actually liked it
20:04 Irreversible: also the flowing there.. not so good imo
20:04 Irreversible: 01:31:608 (7,8) - http://puu.sh/5nf8y.jpg what about something like this, flows better as well
20:05 Irreversible: 01:33:426 - what about adding a circle with finish here? o.o would be kinda cool to into the break like this.
20:06 Irreversible: 01:48:699 (1) - hm.. NC? also, for that piano part here, this pattern seems a bit not very thoughtful (or is it?) how about something .. like a tick zack pattern or so
20:06 Irreversible: 01:50:881 (3,4,5) - watch the spacing between the heads of them
20:07 Leader: i'm fixing that weird rhythm
20:07 Irreversible: oh should i wait
20:07 Irreversible: xD
20:07 Irreversible: sorry.
20:07 Irreversible: tell me when you've worked through the points
20:08 Irreversible: 01:59:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - as well here, the placement might be fine, but the quality of it just isn't
20:09 Irreversible: i'd like you to fix all those places and see where to keep consistencys with the spacing etc..
20:09 Irreversible: (basically the same with this 0.69 problem)
20:09 Leader: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1113163 being bastard
20:09 Leader: :D
20:09 Irreversible: my bubbles require a quite perfect map according nazi stuff so yeah
20:10 Irreversible: move 1 a bit to the right.
20:10 Irreversible: xD
20:10 Irreversible: just a little tiny bit
20:10 Irreversible: haha
20:12 Leader: ok done i guess
20:12 Irreversible: what did you not fix?
20:13 Leader: 01:48:699 :(
20:13 Leader: because I don't have any good idea
20:13 Leader: and already looks fine
20:17 Irreversible: dat big mod
20:17 Irreversible: xD
20:18 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5nfZj.jpg hab sum suggestions
20:19 Irreversible: 01:54:154 (3,4,5,6) - 285 350 for a better tirangle
20:20 Leader: k xD
20:20 Irreversible: 01:55:245 (2,3,4,5) -
20:20 Irreversible: quite optional
20:20 Irreversible: what do you think of making +1 reverse each?
20:20 Irreversible: with other placing ofc, but following the piano is cooler imo, but you can leave it if you like
20:21 Irreversible: 02:02:881 (2) - and again, why is this now fully stacked? :s well, you can leave it i guess.. but just some thoughts
20:22 Leader: oh god
20:22 Leader: it's awesome
20:22 Leader: with this spacing
20:22 Leader: lol
20:22 Irreversible: the +1 reverse?
20:22 Irreversible: or the stacking
20:22 Leader: +1 reverse
20:22 Irreversible: xD okay
20:23 Irreversible: 02:24:881 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - maybe try to get some structure in here..?
20:24 Irreversible: 02:34:881 (4) - missing hitsound
20:25 Irreversible: 02:34:517 (3,4) - missing hitsounds
20:25 Irreversible: go over your kiai and check for hitsounds..
20:25 Irreversible: 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - maybe increase spacing?
20:26 Irreversible: 02:06:972 (6) - NC to announce the calmer density
20:26 Irreversible: 02:30:699 (2) - 2close2theslider
20:27 Leader: fixed hitsounds i guess
20:28 Leader: and structure should be better
20:28 Irreversible: ah well
20:28 Irreversible: for now that's it for your insane
20:28 Irreversible: go over it again
20:28 Irreversible: and fix the unconsistencies
20:28 Irreversible: according to DS
20:28 Irreversible: a mod prbably won't help, that's up to you now
20:28 Leader: 02:07:245 this is not fixed
20:28 Leader: just that
20:32 Irreversible: alright

Fixed basically things that ruint the flow in insane, also paid a lot of attention on doing things even more proper, such as weird spacing.
Easy normal and hard were modded too, just minor changes there!

Tell me when updated :)
Topic Starter
Leader
Thank you, Irre :3
Irreversible
Sorry for letting you wait that long :(

But let's go now :D

Bubbled!
Stefan
Ranked!!
Lally
pro rank xD
BeatofIke
lol
Topic Starter
Leader

Stefan wrote:

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OnosakiHito
That's not how it works.
Momochikun
Oh it's bubbled already.
Good Luck huehue :3
sjoy
ZUN~
Andrea
~Easy~
  1. 01:45:790 (2) - Consider adding a NC here, since this note follows a spinner.
  2. 02:25:790 (2) - This slider almost goes off-screen, move it up a bit please.
~BCI's Normal~
  1. 01:58:154 (3) - Make this slider more curved, it's too cramped right now.
~Collab Hard~
  1. 00:58:517 (3,4,5) - It would be nicer if the spacing here is consistent.
  2. 01:49:245 (4,1,1,1,1) - I don't think such jumps are a good idea for a Hard, I'd reduce them a bit.
  3. 01:50:881 (3) - Add a finish at the begin of this slider to emphasize with the music.
  4. 02:08:336 (1,2) - Wrong spacing here, make sure to space it properly.
  5. 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This stream might be a bit too evil for a Hard difficulty, especially if placed at the end. I suggest you to change it with some sliders instead.
~Lunatic~
  1. 00:29:426 (1) - Remove the whistle at the begin of this slider and add a finish instead.
  2. 00:41:063 (1) - Same as above.
  3. 00:52:699 (3) - ^
  4. 00:58:517 (5) - ^ I won't mention the rest, hope you've got my idea.
  5. 01:20:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This whole stream feels too blank without hitsounds, add some.
  6. 02:15:608 (5) - Remove the clap from this slider end, it sounds out of place.
  7. 02:19:245 (1,1) - Do not completely silence these slider ends, it's not allowed anymore.
  8. 02:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This whole stream feels too blank without hitsounds, add some.
Topic Starter
Leader
Fixed everything except the finishes stuff (keeping the whistles), thank you :3
Kodora
All fixed, thank you Andrea
Andrea
Okay, after some small fixes on IRC this map is ready to go.

SPOILER
20:11 Leader: oh
20:11 Leader: finalmente finito
20:12 Andrea: alleluja
20:12 Andrea: linka
20:14 *Leader is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/286577 ZUN - Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish [Lunatic]]
20:26 Andrea: la normal senza BG?
20:26 Andrea: wat?
20:27 Leader: whoooooooooops
20:27 Leader: k messo
20:27 Andrea: xD
20:28 Andrea: hai già fixato?
20:28 Leader: sì
20:28 Andrea: riscarico
20:28 Leader: se hai altro da fixare
20:28 Leader: sennò submitto
20:28 Leader: lol
20:28 Andrea: submitta
20:28 Andrea: devo riscaricare per esserne sicuro
20:29 Leader: done
20:30 Andrea: "update to latest version"
20:30 Andrea: mi sa che la ha submittata male D:
20:31 Leader: ...lol
20:31 Leader: prova ora
20:31 Andrea: riscarico x3
20:31 Andrea: funge
20:31 Leader: strano
20:31 Leader: LOL
20:33 Andrea: sempre nella normal
20:33 Andrea: 01:58:154 (3) - hai cambiato lo slider ma il whistle all'inizio dov'è? D:
20:34 Leader: non c'era già prima
20:34 Leader: i swear
20:34 Andrea: ma nella pattern successiva usa i whistle in tutti e 3 i sliders
20:34 Andrea: è inconsistente x_x
20:34 Leader: sì, notato
20:34 Leader: ficsed
20:35 Andrea: okay nella hard
20:35 Andrea: 02:08:336 (1,2) - questo spacing non è stato fixato...
20:35 Andrea: non è di Kodora
20:35 Andrea: quindi puoi fixarlo anche tu
20:36 Leader: kk
20:36 Leader: i miei guest mappers sono sempre ritardati
20:36 Andrea: il resto è molto meglio
20:36 Andrea: ma parecchio
20:36 Andrea: haha xD
20:39 Leader: ok uppo
20:39 Andrea: bene
20:40 Leader: ftt
20:41 Andrea: la hard non l'hai fixata?
20:42 Leader: o_o?
20:42 Leader: wtf
20:42 Andrea: 02:09:063 (2) -
20:42 Andrea: guarda la distanza
20:42 Andrea: 0.69x - 1.19x
20:42 Andrea: è troppo vicino al (1)
20:43 Leader: ah intendevi quella fg
20:44 Andrea: yep o3o
20:44 Leader: misunderstanding o3o
20:44 Leader: ficsed
20:45 Andrea: stupendo ora
20:45 Andrea: riscarico ultima volta
20:47 Andrea: ho trovato 1 altra cosa Dx
20:47 Andrea: i colori nella hard sono diversi dalle altre diff di standard
20:47 Leader: OH VERO
20:49 Leader: shld b fn
20:51 Andrea: finalmente è tutto OK

Ranked~
Secretpipe
Gratz Leader :D
AruOtta
Congratz ^w^
Irreversible
gz <3
BeatofIke
Congratulations! Leader! :3
osu! needs more ZUN! *runs* o.o

EDIT: Thanks for the correction Konei XD
EDIT2: Leader so moe o3o
Konei

BeatofIke wrote:

Congratulations! Kodora :3


Well then xD
Irreversible


It's fine, nobody has seen it, Ike.

Except me and Konei.
and many other people.

just kidding obviously <3
Kodora
yay, it was waiting for a long time <3
Cydros
Touhou <3
TKS
Leader saaaaan omedetou!
Melan Blue
Yaay! Gratz, guys! :) (I'm so slow ._.')
LunarSakuya
<3 this theme
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