Yeah but all I did was lose my promotion match, I didn't rise/drop any tier or division.Otonashi07 wrote:
It's your match making rating.If you have higher MMR than a set amount for your division you gain more LP per won game and lose less LP per lost game, if your MMR is lower you gain less and lose more LP per game.
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Winning a lot of games with support Warwick since the pre-season patch. Would be pretty funny if it becomes a thing. lol
It won't. You do nothing.Vulf wrote:
Winning a lot of games with support Warwick since the pre-season patch. Would be pretty funny if it becomes a thing. lol
Competitively it won't lol. Not even jungle or lanewick works there, but draft lately has been nothing but great results for me.those wrote:
It won't. You do nothing.Vulf wrote:
Winning a lot of games with support Warwick since the pre-season patch. Would be pretty funny if it becomes a thing. lol
How does the ranked queue determine pick order if you duo-queue? I've probably played over a hundred games with one of my friends and been last pick every single time. =/
maal
your friend's mmr and your mmr, find the median and then you have the other players inbetween you.Justykanna wrote:
How does the ranked queue determine pick order if you duo-queue? I've probably played over a hundred games with one of my friends and been last pick every single time. =/
if your friend is higher pick than you, then his mmr is higher than yours. its the same as soloq really
Enemy had full ad team, I played taric and we rammus jungle, at 20 min ingame with rammus and me having 0 kills we could 2v5 them as sup + jungler, gg.
Totally balanced champs.
It basically does the same as taric, just running around being annoying. But only having a targeted stun/supress every 80s instead of 10s and lacking a heal, AD/AP aura for teammates in fights and armor buff/additional armor pen on enemies.
I think warwick is stronger as taric atm.
Totally balanced champs.
Competitively it won't lol. Not even jungle or lanewick works there, but draft lately has been nothing but great results for me.[/quote]those wrote:
It won't. You do nothing.Vulf wrote:
Winning a lot of games with support Warwick since the pre-season patch. Would be pretty funny if it becomes a thing. lol
It basically does the same as taric, just running around being annoying. But only having a targeted stun/supress every 80s instead of 10s and lacking a heal, AD/AP aura for teammates in fights and armor buff/additional armor pen on enemies.
I think warwick is stronger as taric atm.
I got diamond on 3vs3, and well played against some challenger teams alreadyNekoAsuna wrote:
doh, I think Evelynn is a good pick in 3v3 in jungle, anyone playing on Twisted Treeline with good team comp?
Taric is borderline broken with the support/pre-season changes.SiFly wrote:
It basically does the same as taric, just running around being annoying. But only having a targeted stun/supress every 80s instead of 10s and lacking a heal, AD/AP aura for teammates in fights and armor buff/additional armor pen on enemies.
I think warwick is stronger as taric atm.
That's late game though if we are talking about that then Warwick has a 40% team wide attack speed buff that he can keep up 100% of the time if he has 40% cdr and his ult has a 38 second CD with that as well. His W gives about 5000g in raw stats to his team which means it's one of the most gold efficient abilities in the game. GP's E might be slightly better. Warwick is also unkillable with items. You can pretty much play like a dumb fuck with the relic shield combo'd with the new defensive tree masteries and not get punished for it lol.
Yeah, she's higher mmr, I knew that, but it doesn't explain why we're always the last two picks, as opposed to pick, for example, 2 and 3.maal wrote:
your friend's mmr and your mmr, find the median and then you have the other players inbetween you.Justykanna wrote:
How does the ranked queue determine pick order if you duo-queue? I've probably played over a hundred games with one of my friends and been last pick every single time. =/
if your friend is higher pick than you, then his mmr is higher than yours. its the same as soloq really
It's not like I'm terribly far behind her either, I'm only two divisions below, lol.
you can guess what stream I'm watching atm
maal
my friend is plat 5 and im gold 1Justykanna wrote:
Yeah, she's higher mmr, I knew that, but it doesn't explain why we're always the last two picks, as opposed to pick, for example, 2 and 3.
It's not like I'm terribly far behind her either, I'm only two divisions below, lol.
im always second pick, he's last
its the hidden mmr. :3
Well the hidden mmr would tell where you are in the pick order, and this would make sense if, say, she was always first and I was last (would mean that our mmrs are REALLY far apart, right?). But we're back to back picks, always 4 and 5 (with me always being 5).maal wrote:
my friend is plat 5 and im gold 1Justykanna wrote:
Yeah, she's higher mmr, I knew that, but it doesn't explain why we're always the last two picks, as opposed to pick, for example, 2 and 3.
It's not like I'm terribly far behind her either, I'm only two divisions below, lol.
im always second pick, he's last
its the hidden mmr. :3
I feel like I'm still missing something because it's not completely making sense... =s
Unless both of us have really low mmr for our tier / division? I dunno.
Alrighty.maal wrote:
all i can say is your mmr is pretty close, thats why you get match like that ^^
Thanks for your help! =)
If you duoqueue you get matched with/vs slightly stronger other players to balance the advance you have from duoqueueing. This explains why you have lower mmr than all the other players and are placed as pick 4/5 if you both have equal mmr.Justykanna wrote:
Alrighty.maal wrote:
all i can say is your mmr is pretty close, thats why you get match like that ^^
Thanks for your help! =)
And sona 1v4 quadra kill!! Supports op in s4, equal in damage of both apc on my team
League of legends (EU West Servers), playing it for 2 years already.
Plat 1, 2 points, in-game name Erasuz.
Champions I play Ezreal, Lee sin, Kassadin and I mostly main ADC
Plat 1, 2 points, in-game name Erasuz.
Champions I play Ezreal, Lee sin, Kassadin and I mostly main ADC
Am I the only one here who thinks nocturne should get reworked?
I mean seriously. Back during season 1, noc was one of my favorites. Now that so much has changed and these new champs offer so much, nocturne just seems pretty useless. Ganking power is okay but not great, ult would have been great but I feel that the cooldown is too long and if you don't have your ult up you basicaly have to walk right into the middle of the enemy team without any means of escape.
Seriously, riot needs to do something about him. I miss the days where players were acually afraid of a good noc player.
I mean seriously. Back during season 1, noc was one of my favorites. Now that so much has changed and these new champs offer so much, nocturne just seems pretty useless. Ganking power is okay but not great, ult would have been great but I feel that the cooldown is too long and if you don't have your ult up you basicaly have to walk right into the middle of the enemy team without any means of escape.
Seriously, riot needs to do something about him. I miss the days where players were acually afraid of a good noc player.
No, Nocturne isn't a bad champion. During earlygame the ult is mostly for ganking through wards and cutting off enemy vision rather than gapclosing, while lategame it turns into "dive-onto-adc-for-free". The jungle changes ruined him and the warmogs/atmas/frozen mallet nerf also ruined him.
He's still very scary to play against if he snowballs really really hard and gets good items because there's no gold in the jungle anymore.
The great thing about Season 1 Nocturne was that you could just farm jungle and maybe gank or countergank when ult was up, still get lots of gold/items, get tanky AND deal a ton of damage. Now there's no jungle gold or atmogs so you're forced to build all tank items and no damage items so you're basically Vi or J4 with worse utility and worse gapclosing.
Think about how overpowered he would be if his ult's CD was like 60-90 seconds or something. Warding lanes would basically be useless and he would be huge every game. I don't think Nocturne needs reworked as much as jungle gold needs increasing and the "jungle items" being removed from the game.
He's still very scary to play against if he snowballs really really hard and gets good items because there's no gold in the jungle anymore.
The great thing about Season 1 Nocturne was that you could just farm jungle and maybe gank or countergank when ult was up, still get lots of gold/items, get tanky AND deal a ton of damage. Now there's no jungle gold or atmogs so you're forced to build all tank items and no damage items so you're basically Vi or J4 with worse utility and worse gapclosing.
Think about how overpowered he would be if his ult's CD was like 60-90 seconds or something. Warding lanes would basically be useless and he would be huge every game. I don't think Nocturne needs reworked as much as jungle gold needs increasing and the "jungle items" being removed from the game.
looks those 3 champions is your favorite because they has a 'escape' skillMakojita wrote:
League of legends (EU West Servers), playing it for 2 years already.
Plat 1, 2 points, in-game name Erasuz.
Champions I play Ezreal, Lee sin, Kassadin and I mostly main ADC
am i right
Nocturne isn't in that bad of a spot right now he is still decent just not broken like he was in season 1 or even season 2. Season 3 wasn't that great for him, but at the same time it wasn't that great for a lot of junglers that relied on ults in their ganks. Season 4 will be great for junglers that can offset farming and ganking which is what Nocturne does best. 
If he ever does receive a rework it won't be because his kit is bad it will most likely be because of the frustrating mechanics in his kit (his ult for the most part). Nocturnes ult will be severely changed, but the rest of his kit will be slightly buffed to compensate. Even then this will not happen for a really really really long time if ever since over a dozen champions are in dire need of a rework than he is. Reworks are not always done because a champion is bad or even too good. You gotta take in mind how these champions interact with players and what counterplay is involved.
Morello has pretty much posted the list of champions that are getting reworked in season 4 and every single one of them need it because of the frustrating anit-fun mechanics in their kits.
Shaco
Alistar
Poppy
Sion
Warwick
Zilean
Urgot
Source: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/bo ... 4#43478654
Oh and lets not forget the champions that are currently in the rework phase right now.
Skarner
Xerath
Jayce
Rengar
Yorick
Possibly even Nidalee.
So don't expect too many new champion releases in season 4.
If he ever does receive a rework it won't be because his kit is bad it will most likely be because of the frustrating mechanics in his kit (his ult for the most part). Nocturnes ult will be severely changed, but the rest of his kit will be slightly buffed to compensate. Even then this will not happen for a really really really long time if ever since over a dozen champions are in dire need of a rework than he is. Reworks are not always done because a champion is bad or even too good. You gotta take in mind how these champions interact with players and what counterplay is involved.
Morello has pretty much posted the list of champions that are getting reworked in season 4 and every single one of them need it because of the frustrating anit-fun mechanics in their kits.
Shaco
Alistar
Poppy
Sion
Warwick
Zilean
Urgot
Source: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/bo ... 4#43478654
Oh and lets not forget the champions that are currently in the rework phase right now.
Skarner
Xerath
Jayce
Rengar
Yorick
Possibly even Nidalee.
So don't expect too many new champion releases in season 4.
we haven't heard about jayce's rework in foreverVulf wrote:
Oh and lets not forget the champions that are currently in the rework phase right now.
Skarner
Xerath
Jayce
Rengar
Yorick
Possibly even Nidalee.
So don't expect too many new champion releases in season 4.
putting 6 ranks in his abilities was a horrible idea
Then I wait for the day my beloved nocturne gets buffed.
Definitely needs a rework.
Definitely, definitely. Outrageous.
truly*
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends ... s_forfeit/
It's my post >_> K3 WILL BE GETTING INTO THE LCS SPRING SPLIT
+1 pls
It's my post >_> K3 WILL BE GETTING INTO THE LCS SPRING SPLIT
+1 pls
Yeah I feel taric just got farkin OP'd
That minus armor just became one hell of a debuff
That minus armor just became one hell of a debuff
new champion confirmed
core build featuring exhaust and kassadin
Probably the first time I won with a Yi in my team.
Wasn't much detail on it to begin with other than "It's going to happen".- O n i - wrote:
]we haven't heard about jayce's rework in forever
putting 6 ranks in his abilities was a horrible idea
Champions like Jayce and Rengar should never have made it past the Riot testing phase. It was so bad that I actually quit the game a few months when those 2 were popular picks
Well then i have bad news for u rengar is popular again atleast he is in Korea But i guess he will also be in Na and Eu soonVulf wrote:
Wasn't much detail on it to begin with other than "It's going to happen".- O n i - wrote:
]we haven't heard about jayce's rework in forever
putting 6 ranks in his abilities was a horrible idea
Champions like Jayce and Rengar should never have made it past the Riot testing phase. It was so bad that I actually quit the game a few months when those 2 were popular picks
200 armor, which is easily achievable, becomes 50 FLAT Armor reduction. I ended one game with 400 once
That's fine because he will get nerfed again. At least riot knows he is a stupid champion and doesn't let him stay in a strong spot for very long like when he was released.SoG Tava wrote:
Well then i have bad news for u rengar is popular again atleast he is in Korea But i guess he will also be in Na and Eu soon
since when?
random cheat, sadly the enemy team can only ban 2 champs in this case T_TOtonashi07 wrote:
since when?
I like how the entire twitch chat gets mad when Madlife picks Taric when Thresh is open lol.
Also, I was in a Stonewall jungle video, I'm the terrible Orianna lol. Also with Mythol on Thresh, Zeraph on Lucian, I think M A I D on riven and KRZY on rammus
Also, I was in a Stonewall jungle video, I'm the terrible Orianna lol. Also with Mythol on Thresh, Zeraph on Lucian, I think M A I D on riven and KRZY on rammus
Lucian is fotm in Korea, lol.Kanye West wrote:
I like how the entire twitch chat gets mad when Madlife picks Taric when Thresh is open lol.
Also, I was in a Stonewall jungle video, I'm the terrible Orianna lol. Also with Mythol on Thresh, Zeraph on Lucian, I think M A I D on riven and KRZY on rammus
I would say Taric, Thresh and Annie are the top picks right now. Sona is still pretty strong and safe too
Taric is definitely the strongest support right now.
My support *cough* KS Warwick games have been pretty funny though. lol
My support *cough* KS Warwick games have been pretty funny though. lol
55 minute 4/0/4!?
totally not an error
totally not an error
It's a known error. Generally means those games were a surrender or ended before 20 mins
Wondering, do you really need the chalice? Seems like a gold waste since the mana should be manageable.Vulf wrote:
It's a known error. Generally means those games were a surrender or ended before 20 mins
Really depends on the matchup bottom lane and it was mostly built for crucible. My ADC in all those games was a Jinx so she needed all the peel possible. If the enemy team consist of a ton of CC I will rush chalice for crucible as a support Warwick because it heavily benefits both me and the ADC.
Chalice is never a bad item on Warwick because he has the second lowest base mana pool in the game and also has one of the highest mana cost on his abilities. At level 6 a full Q, R Q combo will put you oom. You need some form of mana or mana regen if you want to harass constantly in lane.
Also just to point out my last game in that image we were against a solo Teemo bot lane so there really was no need to get chalice in lane and their team had no CC other than Heimerdinger so a wits end rush was fine. I bought tear as a troll item because the game became a 4v5 at around the 15 minute mark when I killed their master yi at his red buff. Rage quit lol
Don't get tear on Warwick it's bad and he can't stack it reliably lol.
Chalice is never a bad item on Warwick because he has the second lowest base mana pool in the game and also has one of the highest mana cost on his abilities. At level 6 a full Q, R Q combo will put you oom. You need some form of mana or mana regen if you want to harass constantly in lane.
Also just to point out my last game in that image we were against a solo Teemo bot lane so there really was no need to get chalice in lane and their team had no CC other than Heimerdinger so a wits end rush was fine. I bought tear as a troll item because the game became a 4v5 at around the 15 minute mark when I killed their master yi at his red buff. Rage quit lol
Don't get tear on Warwick it's bad and he can't stack it reliably lol.
Got my second penta with Akali today.
I just can't make Warwick jungle work in pre-made 5's when you are against people who have brains. Where is my Warwick rework at!? 
After a losing streak I decided to solo queue, and had a great game to end it all.
Kayle + Vayne top is so dumb.
After a losing streak I decided to solo queue, and had a great game to end it all.
Kayle + Vayne top is so dumb.
Ceph23 wrote:
Kayke's ult is useless when you are dead. lol
lol. Wasn't trying to be mean I just hate kayle.
I hate her ult so much because it has little to no counter play other than insta killing her possible target or CC and killing kayle in a team fight. Immunity over time abilities really have no place in this game other than sucking the fun out of that match. Hence why poppy, olaf and now kayle have been nerfed so many times or intentionally kept weak (Olaf is probably really strong atm though
).it's not really a dream now :c it was, 2 seasons before yeah x_x I guess only challenger is really hard to reach nowpsKirika wrote:
Diamond dream is so hard to reach..
Diamond didn't even exist 2 seasons ago.Nofool wrote:
it's not really a dream now :c it was, 2 seasons before yeah x_x I guess only challenger is really hard to reach nowpsKirika wrote:
Diamond dream is so hard to reach..
We are now in s4 right ? I'm pretty sure that there was a diamond tier in s2Kanye West wrote:
Diamond didn't even exist 2 seasons ago.
No we aren't.
one day i'll man up and get into bronze 5
o true lolNofool wrote:
We are now in s4 right ? I'm pretty sure that there was a diamond tier in s2Kanye West wrote:
Diamond didn't even exist 2 seasons ago.
Not liking S4 so far... I just can't get used to it, specially supporting. For some reason my Nami doesn't feel as effective as before.
I used to have a 20-2 Nami record in ranked (and I don't even main support), and now it's like 20-5 and im scared to go on..
I don't have a picture of the 20-2 but I have one I took some weeks before that:
It's Diamond btw.
The thing is this is not even the worst case, I feel like I'm less effective in every role this season, and even if I do well, the throws are just so common. Oh and I hate the disappearance of oracles :/. I was Diamond II with around 50 LP last season and now I'm DIII with 30-50ish (it's the first time I go down a division actually). Let's just hope it's just me playing badly and having bad days and soon I will improve a lot.
I used to have a 20-2 Nami record in ranked (and I don't even main support), and now it's like 20-5 and im scared to go on..
I don't have a picture of the 20-2 but I have one I took some weeks before that:
It's Diamond btw.
The thing is this is not even the worst case, I feel like I'm less effective in every role this season, and even if I do well, the throws are just so common. Oh and I hate the disappearance of oracles :/. I was Diamond II with around 50 LP last season and now I'm DIII with 30-50ish (it's the first time I go down a division actually). Let's just hope it's just me playing badly and having bad days and soon I will improve a lot.
I don't really feel like Nami was changed all that much. Her passive now scales of AP, so the speed increase isn't flat anymore.Snepif wrote:
Not liking S4 so far... I just can't get used to it, specially supporting. For some reason my Nami doesn't feel as effective as before.
I used to have a 20-2 Nami record in ranked (and I don't even main support), and now it's like 20-5 and im scared to go on..
I don't have a picture of the 20-2 but I have one I took some weeks before that:
It's Diamond btw.
The thing is this is not even the worst case, I feel like I'm less effective in every role this season, and even if I do well, the throws are just so common. Oh and I hate the disappearance of oracles :/. I was Diamond II with around 50 LP last season and now I'm DIII with 30-50ish (it's the first time I go down a division actually). Let's just hope it's just me playing badly and having bad days and soon I will improve a lot.
She's the only support I've been using.
It might be the items change or the fact that melee supports like Alistar and Leona can use Targons and ranged ones can't. As an example anyway.
I like that oracles is out now. You have to be smarter with your pink wards and sweeping lens. If you pick up oracles, you run through the jungle and kill every ward. Not nearly as stretigic imo.
Throws are suppose to be less common I believe. Snowballing's a little harder since dead inhibitors no longer buff minions in other lanes. So I find that a touch strange.
My thoughts anyway. I don't discount what you're saying since I'm Bronze 1 and my worst role is support.
I lost to a duel against Taric top, and I was a fed MF full hp. Taric too stronk.xEvolution wrote:
Taric op. pls nerf.
Taric with Icebournce Gaunlet. Can 1 v 2.MetalGearSnake wrote:
I lost to a duel against Taric top, and I was a fed MF full hp. Taric too stronk.xEvolution wrote:
Taric op. pls nerf.
He molested Ezreal for his blue build. gg
At this point I'm welcoming any sort of change. Season 3 was the worst season out of the previous 2 by far. Almost all of season 3 was even more stagnant and boring to play than the end of season 2 which was pretty bad. Change is good!Snepif wrote:
Not liking S4 so far... I just can't get used to it, specially supporting. For some reason my Nami doesn't feel as effective as before.
I used to have a 20-2 Nami record in ranked (and I don't even main support), and now it's like 20-5 and im scared to go on..
I don't have a picture of the 20-2 but I have one I took some weeks before that:
It's Diamond btw.
The thing is this is not even the worst case, I feel like I'm less effective in every role this season, and even if I do well, the throws are just so common. Oh and I hate the disappearance of oracles :/. I was Diamond II with around 50 LP last season and now I'm DIII with 30-50ish (it's the first time I go down a division actually). Let's just hope it's just me playing badly and having bad days and soon I will improve a lot.
Nami is essentially fine. Problem is non traditional supports got an enormous buff with the new items and ambient gold gain change during the pre-season. If Nami turns out to be too weak she will get buffed trust me.
taric is way too stronk now, the armor is so good
Justykanna wrote:
I don't really feel like Nami was changed all that much. Her passive now scales of AP, so the speed increase isn't flat anymore.
She's the only support I've been using.
It might be the items change or the fact that melee supports like Alistar and Leona can use Targons and ranged ones can't. As an example anyway.
I like that oracles is out now. You have to be smarter with your pink wards and sweeping lens. If you pick up oracles, you run through the jungle and kill every ward. Not nearly as stretigic imo.
Throws are suppose to be less common I believe. Snowballing's a little harder since dead inhibitors no longer buff minions in other lanes. So I find that a touch strange.
My thoughts anyway. I don't discount what you're saying since I'm Bronze 1 and my worst role is support.
I don't think Nami is weaker, what I think is that other supports outclass her at the moment (Fid, Annie, Taric) and it's much harder for me to be succesful with her. Maybe it was just some bad games, but it's my general thoughts. Annie is the best by far...Vulf wrote:
At this point I'm welcoming any sort of change. Season 3 was the worst season out of the previous 2 by far. Almost all of season 3 was even more stagnant and boring to play than the end of season 2 which was pretty bad. Change is good!
Nami is essentially fine. Problem is non traditional supports got an enormous buff with the new items and ambient gold gain change during the pre-season. If Nami turns out to be too weak she will get buffed trust me.
#diamondlucian #yoloswag #420blazeit #hashtag #nofilter
maybe he was just drunk 8D jk wp, (#farm? hue)Love wrote:
#diamondlucian #yoloswag #420blazeit #hashtag #nofilter
I don't get it :/
Korean name translations I believe?
I'd like to think the "Tariq" for Taric is a reference from when Taric used to have a really dark skin tone. lol
I'd like to think the "Tariq" for Taric is a reference from when Taric used to have a really dark skin tone. lol
Love wrote:
#diamondlucian #yoloswag #420blazeit #hashtag #nofilter
Makes me sad, just because you win in a normal vs a diamond player, allows you to flame on him so much?? Don't get this behaviour and how people don't understand they:
1. probably play a new champs
2. don't try hard
3. might have terrible support/jungler or get camped by enemy jungler. Which is more likely to happen if they see he is diamond.
maal
NO MAN EVERY NORMAL GAME TRY HARD ALL OVER #DIAMOND4NUBSSiFly wrote:
Love wrote:
#diamondlucian #yoloswag #420blazeit #hashtag #nofilter
Makes me sad, just because you win in a normal vs a diamond player, allows you to flame on him so much?? Don't get this behaviour and how people don't understand they:
1. probably play a new champs
2. don't try hard
3. might have terrible support/jungler or get camped by enemy jungler. Which is more likely to happen if they see he is diamond.
but no i agree, surely he didnt flame him, but not need to be cocky about it
but everyone knows diamond is worse than bronze
so if i'm bronze, it's worse than.... something like 4 leagues under bronze o_o ? this game >_< too complicatedtyrael6192 wrote:
but everyone knows diamond is worse than bronze
edit : 7777th post, np
ill just take 7777th reply then
anyway are these plans to be able to queue by role that you want to play still a thing?
anyway are these plans to be able to queue by role that you want to play still a thing?
LOOOL trolling in champ select is so fun
So someone wrote "hi please don't feed this is my last promo game" and I was like "hi I'm playing on my boyfriend's account, I'm only lvl 15 but I want to play ranked no hate plz" and he instantly dodged
I guess someone didn't know the consequences of dodging during promo 8)
So someone wrote "hi please don't feed this is my last promo game" and I was like "hi I'm playing on my boyfriend's account, I'm only lvl 15 but I want to play ranked no hate plz" and he instantly dodged
I guess someone didn't know the consequences of dodging during promo 8)
I was about to write something like "lol jk I'm diamond smurf" but it was too late
th-that wasn't my intention at all >_>
th-that wasn't my intention at all >_>
That's terrible. =/BrokenArrow wrote:
LOOOL trolling in champ select is so fun
So someone wrote "hi please don't feed this is my last promo game" and I was like "hi I'm playing on my boyfriend's account, I'm only lvl 15 but I want to play ranked no hate plz" and he instantly dodged
I guess someone didn't know the consequences of dodging during promo 8)
In the current state of the Korean meta where mobility is pretty much everything it makes some champions obsolete while bringing in new champions such as Karma. Positioning and vision control have become increasingly more important as it is easy to be caught out of the position and die to roaming high mobility champions. Due to how tanky champions like Olaf, Rengar, and Mundo can get, we will probably start to see more Vayne play even after her nerfs. Along with Vayne we might see Blade of the Ruined King being built more often on other Marksmen and champions with long ranged initiation like Leona.
Also there top picks are :
Top:Rengar , Mundo
Mid:Gragas
Jungle: Evelyn
Adc:Lucian , jinx , sivir
Supp: Karma is beiing spammed in Korean Solo Q
Source : http://cloth5.com/taking-a-look-at-kr/
Also there top picks are :
Top:Rengar , Mundo
Mid:Gragas
Jungle: Evelyn
Adc:Lucian , jinx , sivir
Supp: Karma is beiing spammed in Korean Solo Q
Source : http://cloth5.com/taking-a-look-at-kr/
Yeah even if it wasent youre intention u still kinda ruined that guys promotion series , U gotta be more carefull when saying that kind of stuffJustykanna wrote:
That's terrible. =/BrokenArrow wrote:
LOOOL trolling in champ select is so fun
So someone wrote "hi please don't feed this is my last promo game" and I was like "hi I'm playing on my boyfriend's account, I'm only lvl 15 but I want to play ranked no hate plz" and he instantly dodged
I guess someone didn't know the consequences of dodging during promo 8)
Vayne is still really strong despite the nerfs. Only reason she's tier 2 in competitive play is her bad laning.
And doesn't fit any sieging/poking comps.Kanye West wrote:
Vayne is still really strong despite the nerfs. Only reason she's tier 2 in competitive play is her bad laning.
maal
still has the strongest late game potential thoughSiFly wrote:
And doesn't fit any sieging/poking comps.Kanye West wrote:
Vayne is still really strong despite the nerfs. Only reason she's tier 2 in competitive play is her bad laning.
gotta agree though, jinx lucian are prolly the strongest atm imo
Twitch or Kog'maw should have higher potential than Vayne.
those wrote:
Twitch or Kog'maw should have higher potential than Vayne.
I agree the 'Burst' is higher on Twitch and Kog'Maw but the skill cap on vayne is much higher .
Not discussing skill cap. Discussing late game potential.
I know just wanted to add that ^^those wrote:
Not discussing skill cap. Discussing late game potential.
Kanye West wrote:
Vayne is still really strong despite the nerfs. Only reason she's tier 2 in competitive play is her bad laning.
Needs to stay that way. If you have a ridiculously strong late game your laning phase or early game shouldn't be good. This is currently the issue with Nasus since pretty much everything that wrecked him in lane was nerfed into the ground.
Vulf wrote:
Kanye West wrote:
Vayne is still really strong despite the nerfs. Only reason she's tier 2 in competitive play is her bad laning.
Needs to stay that way. If you have a ridiculously strong late game your laning phase or early game shouldn't be good. This is currently the issue with Nasus since pretty much everything that wrecked him in lane was nerfed into the ground.
I agree Nothing can move nasus out of the lane with the new masteries
Damn those translations
I agree. But I think the opposite should be true as well. If you have a strong earlygame, you shouldn't have a strong lategame. All these new ad carries are really badly designed by Riot imo. Jinx, Lucian and the new Sivir are way too strong early and midgame and still have a strong lategameVulf wrote:
Kanye West wrote:
Vayne is still really strong despite the nerfs. Only reason she's tier 2 in competitive play is her bad laning.
Needs to stay that way. If you have a ridiculously strong late game your laning phase or early game shouldn't be good. This is currently the issue with Nasus since pretty much everything that wrecked him in lane was nerfed into the ground.
In terms of raw damage/AoE, sure. But I think Vayne still has the strongest all-around lategame because of high single target damage, mobility and self-peel.those wrote:
Twitch or Kog'maw should have higher potential than Vayne.
In my opinion the ADCs with the hardest skill caps are the ones who don't have mobility, so I disagree with Vayne having a high skillcap (you can basically spam Qs and Condemns and be relatively safe), whereas the likes of Ashe and Kog'Maw require WAAAAAY smarter positioning.
"Master this"SoG Tava wrote:
Damn those translations
Of course. Still pissed what they did to Leblanc, because I think she was fine where she was the big problem was that other assassins just did her job WAAAAAY better in the late game and that was fine. She is a very strong early game champion with some severe limitations late game and that was the trade off for picking her.Kanye West wrote:
I agree. But I think the opposite should be true as well. If you have a strong earlygame, you shouldn't have a strong lategame. All these new ad carries are really badly designed by Riot imo. Jinx, Lucian and the new Sivir are way too strong early and midgame and still have a strong lategame.
Another issue is riot is making champions that are good at all stages of the game (Elise for example) so they have no trade off and it severely powercreeps specific champs that would fill a certain role of being early/lategame specific. Having champions that are good at all stages of the game is okay essentially, but they shouldn't be as strong as a champion that is designed to shine at a specific time. I'm not a game designer (yet), but there is a lot of things that Riot does that just makes zero sense whatsoever.
Well we can't really expect Riot get get it right all the time.Vulf wrote:
Of course. Still pissed what they did to Leblanc, because I think she was fine where she was the big problem was that other assassins just did her job WAAAAAY better in the late game and that was fine. She is a very strong early game champion with some severe limitations late game and that was the trade off for picking her.Kanye West wrote:
I agree. But I think the opposite should be true as well. If you have a strong earlygame, you shouldn't have a strong lategame. All these new ad carries are really badly designed by Riot imo. Jinx, Lucian and the new Sivir are way too strong early and midgame and still have a strong lategame.
Another issue is riot is making champions that are good at all stages of the game (Elise for example) so they have no trade off and it severely powercreeps specific champs that would fill a certain role of being early/lategame specific. Having champions that are good at all stages of the game is okay essentially, but they shouldn't be as strong as a champion that is designed to shine at a specific time. I'm not a game designer (yet), but there is a lot of things that Riot does that just makes zero sense whatsoever.