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MomoKuro-tei Ichimon - Nippon Egao Hyakkei (TV Size) [Taiko]

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Freitag, 16. Mai 2014 at 15:39:25

Artist: MomoKuro-tei Ichimon
Title: Nippon Egao Hyakkei (TV Size)
Source: Joshiraku
Tags: Ending Momoiro Clover Z Jugemu Jugemu Gokō-no surikire Kaijarisuigyo-no Suigyōmatsu Unraimatsu Fūraimatsu Kuunerutokoro-ni Sumutokoro Yaburakōji-no burakōji Paipopaipo Paipo-no-shūringan Shūringan-no Gūrindai Gūrindai-no Ponpokopī-no Ponpokonā-no Chōkyūmei-no Chōsuke Kenichi Maeyamada Rakugo Girls Koji Kumeta Yasu J.C. Staff Marii Buratei Kigurumi Harokitei Tetora Bohatei Gankyo Kurubiyutei Kukuru Anrakutei Ayane Sakura Kotori Koiwai Nozomi Yamamoto Yoshino Nanjo Saori Goto Tsutomu Mizushima Masaru Yokoyama MBS Gabe TheNutritiousGuy TNG Taiko
BPM: 160
Filesize: 4798kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (3,6 stars, 178 notes)
  2. Gabe's Kantan (1,49 stars, 111 notes)
  3. Inner Oni (4,94 stars, 512 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (4,71 stars, 334 notes)
  5. Oni (4,83 stars, 438 notes)
Download: MomoKuro-tei Ichimon - Nippon Egao Hyakkei (TV Size)
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Jenny
nice tags, gal .-.
Topic Starter
Stefan
=w=
scanter
look! it is all taiko mapset!
Aurele
oh, it's submitted.
Topic Starter
Stefan
hello
Mithos
From the Productive Mod Team's Queue

Nice song for taiko. Lots of potential due to the other oriental instruments. It's been done before in osu!, but who cares when Only My Railgun has been ranked eight separate times.

(#) Always means the combo number of the note BEFORE any of my edits are applied. If you remove (56), no notes after that note lose a combo number.

(d) A normal don
(D) A large don
(k) A regular kat
(K) A large kat

Kantan
00:02:482 ~ Consider removing (3) and (5) to lower difficulty.
00:08:482 - 00:26:482 ~ Because it seems like you are following the vocals for this part here, considering the pitch will make the small amount of notes in the difficulty count. To be general, when the voice's pitch rises drastically, place a kat. When it lowers back down, place a don. Same applies for other sections, but this is the best place to bring it up.
00:17:857 ~ The pattern starting at (15) is a little too long for a kantan difficulty, so removing (20) here will help shorten the pattern and make it easier for players.
00:22:732 ~ Either remove (28) here or add a note between (29) and (30). The same thing is happening in the vocals for both spots, so it's weird that the taiko isn't doing the same thing.

All my other problems can be fixed via applying the second suggestion over the rest of the song.

Futsuu
geh you use new combo orz
00:11:857 ~ It's odd that while the same thing is happening in the song at 00:10:732 as it is here, yet this one has zero notes being placed over the vocals when the other one has the 'hard' pattern for Futsuu players. It feels like I should be playing here, so adding a (d) or a (k) should do good.
00:14:857 ~ Another pause where I feel as if I should be playing.
If you remove the awkward pause here, the song might get too hard. To compensate, you might want to remove notes like 00:09:232 and 00:12:232 to compensate. These sound and play better than the pauses you have.
00:16:732 ~ Having another 1/2 pattern here right after the first one might be too hard, especially when you are reversing direction. Removing the middle note to turn the pattern from (k)(d)(d) to (k)_(d) should be a good fix. It also sounds good with the song.
00:21:232 ~ Feels like this should be (k) to fit with the song.
00:23:669 ~ Even though the vocals are doing the same thing here, this might be too hard to do in succession. I suggest removing this note here.
00:24:419 ~ You can place a (d) here to replace the one you removed. It helps give the player a pattern to follow as well.
00:42:607 ~ I had a few taiko newbie friends try this pattern and barely anyone could hit it, despite knowing the song. You could replace it with (k)_(d)_(d)(d)(d)_(k) to make it Futsuu player friendly.
00:51:607 ~ Switching this from a (K) to a (k) will help make the next note really stand out, plus it helps with difficulty.
00:53:482 ~ This kinda feels weird to play as a (k). Try making it a (d) and see which one feels better to play.
01:15:982 ~ (D)(D)(D) at 1/2 is too hard for futsuu players. (d)(d)(D) or (D)_(D) would be an acceptable pattern here.
01:17:482 ~ Same as above
01:21:982 ~ and here
01:23:482 ~ and here
01:25:357 ~ Because this is the end of the song, you can keep this in on one condition (dundundun). Put a (k) at 01:25:919
01:27:607 ~ This can be a (K) if you want.

More awkward pauses... 00:22:357 ~ 00:59:857

Muzukashii
I'm going to be a lot less picky here because as difficulty rises, more stuff is acceptable. My main problem here is that many patterns are just steady streams of 1/2, when you can be more creative.
00:08:482 ~ The pattern starting here goes on for 18 hitobjects. The 1/4 at the start is OK, but remove some dons in this pattern to give the player a bit of breathing room.
00:12:419 ~ Remove this kat to create a sequence of (k)(k)(d) that plays and sounds good.
00:15:794 ~ Remove the hitobject here to avoid run-on, and separate the different vocal phrases.
00:16:544 ~ Same as above.
00:23:294 ~ Give the player a small break after the 1/4's to recoup by removing this note here.
00:24:044 ~ Same as above.
00:42:044 ~ Either remove this note, or remove the second note in the 1/4 stream for difficulty reasons.
00:45:232 ~ Move this forward one red tick to start a pattern with the vocals.
00:45:982 ~ Move this back a red tick to finish the pattern above
Repeat this pattern when it happens again next bar.
00:52:544 ~ If you plan to use 1/4 like that, remove this note to balance out the difficulty.
Repeat this edit whenever it is seen.
01:00:607 ~ The pattern here is 20 hitobjects long. You should cut it up a bit.
01:15:982 ~ Another modder MIGHT bring up using (D)(D)(D) in Muzukashii. I'm fine with it because it's close to the end of the song.

Oni
I don't have much to say about this difficulty. It might be because I am tired when playing this, but something feels really off about the 1/4 streams. It's fine that the 1/4 streams are there, but it feels like the alternating of (d) and (k) should be simplified a bit. It just doesn't feel 'natural' to play, something Oni's should have. Outside of the streams, the map feels really nice. I'll point out a bit of things I found, but it won't be as intensive as my other mods here. Most of my suggestions will be "This would sound really awesome" instead of "fix this or it's not getting ranked".

00:39:419 ~ Feel free to put a don here, and every other time you hear it. The vocals are playing here just like every other note, so it fits.
00:39:607 ~ If you are familiar with musical theory and devices, you might notice that making this note a (D) instead of a (k) will make a Call//Response style pattern that feels really natural for the player. You might need to build a bit around it, but imagine that there are two taiko drummers that are taking turns playing, sort of playing to each other.
00:41:107 ~ Make this a (K) please. It sounds really nice, and you put one at the next instance of it.
01:15:982 ~ More of the call and response here. To really show the appearance of multiple singers (and multiple taiko drum players), you should drop the SV back down to normal for everything other than the (D)(D)(D) pattern.

Thanks for posting in our modding queue! I'm really glad to see more taiko maps being pushed toward ranking. I will not be offended if you decide not to make an edit I posted here, they are simply suggestions I make to make it feel better and more fun to play.
Topic Starter
Stefan
I've accepted everything except

Mithost wrote:

Futsuu
00:42:607 ~ I had a few taiko newbie friends try this pattern and barely anyone could hit it, despite knowing the song. You could replace it with (k)_(d)_(d)(d)(d)_(k) to make it Futsuu player friendly. I will change it to kk to make it easier.
01:27:607 ~ This can be a (K) if you want. I don't really feel like to add it here. Sounds a bit displaced.

More awkward pauses... 00:22:357 ~ 00:59:857 I find them reasonable. :o

Muzukashii
00:15:794 ~ Remove the hitobject here to avoid run-on, and separate the different vocal phrases. I changed it into d and removed 00:16:169 instead.
00:23:294 ~ Give the player a small break after the 1/4's to recoup by removing this note here. Currently I will keep it for now. If someone is pointing out this then I will change it.
00:24:044 ~ Same as above. ^
00:42:044 ~ Either remove this note, or remove the second note in the 1/4 stream for difficulty reasons. Duh.. that looks fair enough for a Muzukashii imo.

Oni
I don't have much to say about this difficulty. It might be because I am tired when playing this, but something feels really off about the 1/4 streams. It's fine that the 1/4 streams are there, but it feels like the alternating of (d) and (k) should be simplified a bit. It just doesn't feel 'natural' to play, something Oni's should have. Outside of the streams, the map feels really nice. I'll point out a bit of things I found, but it won't be as intensive as my other mods here. Most of my suggestions will be "This would sound really awesome" instead of "fix this or it's not getting ranked". It's the thing that I want build in called "unique Mapping style". I am not statisfied to use only stuff like ddkkdd... if I see that this or this part as more to offer. So that I have - maybe for many a weird looking - style.

01:15:982 ~ More of the call and response here. To really show the appearance of multiple singers (and multiple taiko drum players), you should drop the SV back down to normal for everything other than the (D)(D)(D) pattern. The increased SV should lead in to the End of the song.

Thanks for posting in our modding queue! I'm really glad to see more taiko maps being pushed toward ranking. I will not be offended if you decide not to make an edit I posted here, they are simply suggestions I make to make it feel better and more fun to play.
Thank you very much. That's one of the best Taiko Mods I've ever seen. My Futsuu/Muzukashii Diff got improved a lot by your Mod. Please keep this.
Jerry
Taiko mod as requested from the Malaysian Taiko Queue

Sorry it took so long to answer your request, really busy IRL orz.

  • [Gabe's Kantan]
  1. 01:25:732 (136) - move this to 01:25:544 because the beat in the music lands there

    [Futsuu]
  2. 00:42:607 (2) - This note seems unnecessary imo, how about removing it?
  3. 01:03:607 (2) - kat, pitch here is high
  4. 01:06:232 (1) - don, low pitch here
  5. 01:12:232 (1) - Same for this, don
  6. 01:14:482 (2) - kat, pitch seems high

    [Muzukashii]
  7. 00:03:044 (2) - kat? (explained in oni ><)
  8. 00:54:982 (2) - kat, so that it matches with the vocals that are kinda high at this part
  9. 01:09:982 (1) - Don, the beat/music feels low here.
  10. 01:12:044 : add a note? It feels kinda empty here

    [Oni]
  11. 00:02:857 (2,1,2) - I highly recommend changing these to d k d because the pitch in the music from 00:02:857 to 00:03:232 goes from low to high then low again.
  12. 00:16:732 (1,1,1,1,2) - change this to kddkk? The music's pitch goes from high at 00:16:732 (1) to low at 00:16:826 (1,1) then high again at 00:17:014 (1,2)
  13. 00:24:700 (1,1) - I suggest deleting these two because the note at 00:24:794 sounds "stronger" when it's alone and a little break at 00:24:700 feels nice too
  14. 01:00:982 (2) - The vocals are low here, so I think don would be better
  15. 01:01:544 (1,2) - Delete? a little break here sounds nice
  16. 01:09:982 (6) - Don, the beat/music feels low here.
  17. 01:12:982 (2) - Same goes for this one, don
  18. 01:13:450 (2) - I suggest deleting this note, kkd for this part sounds kinda off.
Great map, most of the suggestions that I made were only minor problems, so feel free to ignore them if you want haha :P
Alright, good luck ~
ReySHeL
hi owo
M4M
my map: Kawano Marina - Sono Koe wo Oboeteru (TV Size)
my map: FELT - Feel The Flow

[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:08:107 (1) - k its good sound
  2. 00:11:763 - add k follow the vocal, and more fun
  3. 00:20:107 - k is preferred here. 00:20:013 (1,1) - try ctrl + g
  4. 00:22:544 (2) - d
  5. 00:23:294 (1) - k i think it is a good pattern
  6. 00:45:982 (1) - d better than k
  7. 01:27:325 (1,1) - remove. because sound ends here 01:27:232 -
  8. 01:27:607 (2) - add finish is better

[Oni]
  1. 00:08:107 (1) - same as Inner Oni
  2. 00:10:357 - make kkd 00:09:982 (2,3,1) - sound is different
  3. 00:12:982 - kkd more better sound
  4. 00:23:294 (1,2) - try ctrl + g i think its good placement
  5. 00:24:513 (1) - d
  6. 00:24:794 (2) - d it would be a good feeling
  7. 00:42:794 - kkd
  8. 00:55:544 (3,4) - ctrl + g
  9. 00:56:482 (4) - d is better sound
  10. 01:24:982 - try this pattern > http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008955 can follow a good feeling
  11. 01:27:419 (1) - remove
  12. 01:27:607 (2) - add finish

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:08:107 (1) - you know what to do
  2. 00:51:607 (1) - remove finish 00:51:982 (2) - emphasize this note
  3. 00:52:263 (3,1) - 00:53:013 (2,1) - etc. dk is too hard in Muzukashii. plz fix dd or kk
  4. 01:27:607 (54) - add finish

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:08:107 - add k
  2. 01:27:607 (93) - add finish

[Gabe's Kantan]
  1. 00:52:732 (79) - remove finish
  2. 00:54:982 (83,84) - ^
  3. 00:56:857 (86) - d because this is Kantan
  4. 00:57:982 (88,89) - remove finish
  5. 01:00:982 (93,94,95,96,97,98,99) - too hard in Kantan. plz reduce a little note
  6. 01:04:732 (101) - remove finish
  7. 01:06:982 (105,106) - ^
  8. 01:08:857 (108) - d easily
  9. 01:09:982 (110) - remove finish
  10. 01:11:482 (111) - add finish

thats all.
good luck~
Darkravens23
Hey Stefan :3

Here, after you asked me, my legendary Taiko-mod.
Good song, nice maps, only minor suggestions.

  • [Gabe's Kantan]
  1. 00:15:982 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - I think this part could be a bit difficult for our newbies, I suggest to remove the 6th Circle (00:17:857 ) and add a don in 00:19:357.

    [Futsuu]
  2. 01:02:669 - Add a kat, sounds better.

    [Muzukashii]
  3. 00:57:982 - Kat?
  4. 00:58:357 (1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2) - Try this: k,d,k,d,k,d,d,d,k,k,d
  5. 01:10:357 (2,3,4) - Add don in 01:10:450 and 01:10:638, I think 5 hit pattern is ok here.
  6. 01:27:138 - I would add an extra don, for an exciting finish

    [Oni]
  7. 01:10:357 (6,1,1) - try a 5 hit pattern, either kkdkk or kkddk

    [Inner Oni]
    /me died... Unfortunately, I have no idea how I have to mod this. If I pass it and be able to read that, I will try a mod again. :D
    But...I don't think so. xD
So I've tried my best and I hope this helps somehow. :P
Good luck ;)
Topic Starter
Stefan

ReySHeL wrote:

hi owo
M4M
my map: Kawano Marina - Sono Koe wo Oboeteru (TV Size)
my map: FELT - Feel The Flow

[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:20:107 - k is preferred here. 00:20:013 (1,1) - try ctrl + g I've put kk here.
  2. 01:27:325 (1,1) - remove. because sound ends here 01:27:232 - Deleted only 01:27:325.

[Oni]
  1. 00:42:794 - kkd It feels better because it follows 00:42:232 (1,2,3,1,1) great.
  2. 01:24:982 - try this pattern > http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008955 can follow a good feeling
  3. 01:27:419 (1) - remove Sounds weird and empty to me..

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:51:607 (1) - remove finish 00:51:982 (2) - emphasize this note It's a great combination, won't change it for now.

thats all.
good luck~
Everything I have removed are accepted, thanks a lot!
Senritsu
apparently i like the song very much lool i sing it many times after closing osu! >_>
anyway, here's the m4m we agreed

[Gabe's Kantan]
• I suggest removing some notes, because too long pattern at 1/1 is too hard for the beginner imo
SPOILER
00:11:107 (6) -
00:14:107 (12) -
00:17:107 (18) -
00:38:107 (57) -
00:47:107
01:02:107 (96) -
01:15:607 (120) -
00:17:857 (20) - make this k? i'd prefer following the vocal that's higher there
00:26:482 (35) - add finish here. the beginning of the instrument seems have to be strengthen, and a finish seems better instead of an usual d
00:32:482 (46) - same as above, but optional. it's up to you, whether to apply it or no
00:38:482 (58) - ^

[Futsuu]
00:02:857 (2) - del? if no, i suggest changing to k. the pitch between it and the notes before are same
01:01:732 - smth like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1061010

[Muzukashii]
00:03:044 (2) - change to k? i hear that its pitch is different from the other there
00:04:544 (2) - d?
00:08:107 (1) - i'd prefer k here, i think it's a light instrument and a bit high pitch one
00:21:419 (3) - k here?
00:58:544 (1,1) - remove? following the vocal, i'd prefer do so
01:27:232 (53) - k here?

[Oni]
00:03:232 (2) - k? has the same pitch as 00:02:857 (2) -
00:08:107 (1) - same as muzu
00:31:919 (1) - change to d? i think all k is boring there

[Inner Oni]
00:03:232 (2) - same with oni
00:08:107 (1) - ^
I'm not good modding both Oni and Inner Oni eue;;

This map is.. wonderful =w=b
Hope my mod is helpful ><;;

Edit : remove taiko from tags lols
Topic Starter
Stefan

Darkravens23 wrote:

Hey Stefan :3

Here, after you asked me, my legendary Taiko-mod. uguu =w=/
Good song, nice maps, only minor suggestions.

  • [Futsuu]
  1. 01:02:669 - Add a kat, sounds better. Have added on 01:02:294.

    [Muzukashii]
  2. 00:57:982 - Kat? Voice doesn't really sounds like going up with k.
  3. 00:58:357 (1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,2) - Try this: k,d,k,d,k,d,d,d,k,k,d Changed a bit.
  4. 01:10:357 (2,3,4) - Add don in 01:10:450 and 01:10:638, I think 5 hit pattern is ok here. Meh.. I really don't like using this here, sounds too complicated imo.
  5. 01:27:138 - I would add an extra don, for an exciting finish That sounds.. weird to me. :c

    [Oni]
  6. 01:10:357 (6,1,1) - try a 5 hit pattern, either kkdkk or kkddk Nah, not for this Diff. I do that on Inner Oni.

    [Inner Oni]
    /me died... Unfortunately, I have no idea how I have to mod this. If I pass it and be able to read that, I will try a mod again. :D
    But...I don't think so. xD
So I've tried my best and I hope this helps somehow. :P
Good luck ;)

Senritsu wrote:

apparently i like the song very much lool i sing it many times after closing osu! >_>
anyway, here's the m4m we agreed

[Futsuu]
00:02:857 (2) - del? if no, i suggest changing to k. the pitch between it and the notes before are same
01:01:732 - smth like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1061010 Yes, that's really good.

[Muzukashii]
00:03:044 (2) - change to k? i hear that its pitch is different from the other there Changed to kkk pattern.
00:04:544 (2) - d? I perfer keep this simple.
00:08:107 (1) - i'd prefer k here, i think it's a light instrument and a bit high pitch one Done.
00:21:419 (3) - k here? Okay.
00:58:544 (1,1) - remove? following the vocal, i'd prefer do so Right.
01:27:232 (53) - k here? Done.

[Oni]
00:03:232 (2) - k? has the same pitch as 00:02:857 (2) - I see.
00:08:107 (1) - same as muzu Already done.
00:31:919 (1) - change to d? i think all k is boring there Well.. true. orz

[Inner Oni]
00:03:232 (2) - same with oni Already done.
00:08:107 (1) - ^ Already done.
I'm not good modding both Oni and Inner Oni eue;;

This map is.. wonderful =w=b Yaaay \;w;/
Hope my mod is helpful ><;;

Edit : remove taiko from tags lols I am personally not sure if Taiko is needed or not. I keep it for now.
Thanks!
UnderminE
holy shit tags
Nwolf
woof

[Gabe's Kantan]

00:17:107 (18) - delete to make this a bit easier for new people
01:02:857 (98) - ^
01:26:107 (137) - ^ and 01:26:857 (139) - kat

[Futsuu]

00:18:982 (31) - dat slider

[Muzukashii]

00:14:575 - Maybe add a don here because 00:08:575
01:18:982 (123) - finish? (cause oni)
01:24:982 (150) - ^

[Oni]

00:13:732 (1) - try kat here, fits vocals better
00:23:763 (4) - ^
00:49:169 (1) - ^
01:13:450 (2) - Move to 01:13:638

[Inner Oni]

00:23:763 (4) - same as Oni
00:48:982 (4,1) - switch (if you changed (1) in Oni)


nice set : D

gl^^
Topic Starter
Stefan
Gabe cannot reply to the Mods nor checking them for his Diff, so that I will do this. I got his permission blablabla derp

Mithost wrote:

Kantan
00:02:482 ~ Consider removing (3) and (5) to lower difficulty. Yup
00:08:482 - 00:26:482 ~ Because it seems like you are following the vocals for this part here, considering the pitch will make the small amount of notes in the difficulty count. To be general, when the voice's pitch rises drastically, place a kat. When it lowers back down, place a don. Same applies for other sections, but this is the best place to bring it up. Unfortunally I won't, or better said I cannot do anything here. That would goes too much on my way how I would change and I want to keep this "style".
00:17:857 ~ The pattern starting at (15) is a little too long for a kantan difficulty, so removing (20) here will help shorten the pattern and make it easier for players. Removed the first second Kats in the pattern.
00:22:732 ~ Either remove (28) here or add a note between (29) and (30). The same thing is happening in the vocals for both spots, so it's weird that the taiko isn't doing the same thing. Doneeeeeee

All my other problems can be fixed via applying the second suggestion over the rest of the song.

Jerry wrote:

[Gabe's Kantan]
  1. 01:25:732 (136) - move this to 01:25:544 because the beat in the music lands there 1/1, then 1/2 and then again 1/1? That's impossible for a Kantan..

Darkravens23 wrote:

[Gabe's Kantan]
  1. 00:15:982 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - I think this part could be a bit difficult for our newbies, I suggest to remove the 6th Circle (00:17:857 ) and add a don in 00:19:357. Hab den ersten Teil getan.

Senritsu wrote:

[Gabe's Kantan]
• I suggest removing some notes, because too long pattern at 1/1 is too hard for the beginner imo
SPOILER
00:11:107 (6) -
00:14:107 (12) -
00:17:107 (18) - Such Patterns shouldn't be done in Kantans.
00:38:107 (57) -
00:47:107
01:02:107 (96) -
01:15:607 (120) -
Accepted.
00:17:857 (20) - make this k? i'd prefer following the vocal that's higher there I guess ddk can stay now.
00:26:482 (35) - add finish here. the beginning of the instrument seems have to be strengthen, and a finish seems better instead of an usual d Should work.
00:32:482 (46) - same as above, but optional. it's up to you, whether to apply it or no ^
00:38:482 (58) - ^ ^

Nwolf wrote:

[Gabe's Kantan]

00:17:107 (18) - delete to make this a bit easier for new people Done.
01:02:857 (98) - ^ Okay.
01:26:107 (137) - ^ and 01:26:857 (139) - kat Aight.
Gabe.. v.v

Nwolf wrote:

[Futsuu]

00:18:982 (31) - dat slider =w=

[Muzukashii]

00:14:575 - Maybe add a don here because 00:08:575 The triplet is imo weird.
01:18:982 (123) - finish? (cause oni) Yaa
01:24:982 (150) - ^ ^

[Oni]

00:13:732 (1) - try kat here, fits vocals better Indeed.
00:23:763 (4) - ^ ddk seems better.
00:49:169 (1) - ^ Yes.
01:13:450 (2) - Move to 01:13:638 but.. I love this Triplet!

[Inner Oni]

00:23:763 (4) - same as Oni same as Oni (lol)
00:48:982 (4,1) - switch (if you changed (1) in Oni) same as Oni


nice set : D

gl^^
Thank you all for the Help!
mingmichael
hey stefan :) here's your mod request from me

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it

====================

[ Kantan]

General
☞ nothing~

Notes Stucture
try use the Finishers wisely at the Kiai part. well, try to avoid to many finishers at Kantan diff. at least, you can use them at the Kiai starts and Kiai ends.

Notes
• add don at 00:16:357 - to follow the 3-notes 1-note 1-note 3-notes pattern there. like the previous notes that you used it. well, this's better to if you change this, to follow the structure

• 00:17:857 (17) - move to 00:19:357 - and add kat at 00:20:107 - so it'll be o o o o o. don't worry, 5-notes with that stucture isn't hard for the Kantan player :D and then, i change them too to follow the 3-notes 1-note 1-note 3-notes pattern, like the first mod also. you should use this if you use my first mod, because it should be consistent

• move 00:25:357 - to 00:25:732 - and change don. well, i think it's better at 00:25:732 - than you put before. this note will also follow the vocal sound too which becomes a little lower there

• remove the finisher here 00:52:732 - . it's quite hard to using the to many finisher at Kantan diff

• 00:55:732 - ^

• 00:57:982 - and 00:58:732 - ^

• how about use finisher at 00:59:482 - and delete 00:59:857 - if you use my previous mod ^ ?

• 01:04:732 - remove the finsiher

• 01:06:982 - and 01:07:732 - ^

• finisher too at 01:11:482 - if you add finisher too at 00:59:482 - , because it should consistent


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[ Futsuu]

General
☞ nothing~

Note Stucture
☞ no problem here c: nice~

Note
• 00:03:607 - kat and 00:03:982 - kat. i changed them because the banyo sound (i guess it is) becomes quite higher at 00:03:607 - and it becomes lower at 00:03:982 - . and the pitch sound is same like 00:03:232 - too. well, if you use this mod too, the pattern will be nice too. look from 00:03:232 - until 00:05:482 - , it will be o o o and o o o

• don at 00:16:732 - and kat at 00:17:107 - . i heard that 00:16:732 - still have a same pitch sound like 00:15:982 - ; 00:16:169 - and 00:16:357 - . they have low vocal sounds. and kat at 00:17:107 - , i is for the little higher pitch sound too than four notes before it. and then, the kat too will follow the kat pattern which appears at the white strike automatically too :D it'll be a better pattern too right? http://puu.sh/59fOe.jpg

• wwww epic slider 00:18:982 -

• don at 00:54:232 - to follow the vocal sound which becomes lower at this part. wello o o isn't hard a hard pattern for Futsuu diff, don't worry~

• 00:55:732 - and 00:56:482 - should be dons, because to follow the generic structure. look at from the kiai start. the pattern is o o o o right? so at 00:55:732 - should be don. because the kat at the 00:55:357 - wasn't put by you, so it empy :P and then too, 00:55:732 - has a same pitch sound (vocal sound) like 00:54:982 - . both of them are low pitch sounds. and you put o o too at 01:07:732 (43,44) -:c be consistent with patterns

• 00:56:107 - kat if you use my previous mod

• kat at 00:57:044 - ? to follow the vocal pitch sound which becomes a little higher at there than 00:56:857 - and 00:57:232 -

• 01:06:232 - don? for the vocal again which is lower here


====================


[ Muzukashii]

General
☞ nothing~

Notes Structure
☞ no problem here c:

Notes
• don at 00:03:982 - ? well, the banyo sound is lowest at here :c than 00:03:232 - and 00:03:607 - , but why did you use kat at 00:03:982 - ? ;w;

• don at 00:04:544 - ? if you use my previous mod ^

• delete 00:15:794 - . there doesn't use a note there, cause the vocal doesn't appear too at there

• don at 00:21:607 - to follow the vocal sound which becomes low suddenly at there from 00:21:419 -

• you can add a note (don) at 00:36:419 - follow the vocal sound again :D

• kat here 00:39:607 - . well to follow the kats pattern at the white strike as a beat

• kat at 00:43:357 - and don at 00:43:732 - . it'll make the better failing pitch sounds. o o o o

• kat 00:57:982 ? for the vocal too which increases here

• kat at 01:01:356 - and delete 01:01:544 - . kat at 01:01:356 - is for the kat pattern which appears at the white strike. and i deleted 01:01:544 - because there's not any vocal sound which is better to follow it, like the preivous and next notes. and it gives a little break too c:

• don 01:09:232 - ? the vocal becomes lower at here too


====================


[ Oni]

General
SV change to be 1.40. i think 1.60 is quite hard for 160BPM

Notes Structure
from 00:08:482 - until 00:11:482 - , mostly you used o o o o patterns there. dons are at the red strikes and kats are at the blue strikes. but, some of the notes didn't follow them. well, maybe because you follow the vocal sounds, it's no problem. but, it has some notes that you should change them to follow that patterns. later you can look at the Notes box

Notes
• 00:03:982 - don here. same as Muzukashii mod. the banyo sound becomes lower at here

• 00:04:544 - don too, same as Muzukashii mod

• kat at 00:08:575 - ; 00:08:950 - ; and 00:09:325 - . ooo triplets give stonger sounds at this part than ooo before :c

• don at 00:09:794 - . to follow the stucture too, like at 00:08:669 - ; 00:09:044 - ; and 00:09:419 - . it will make a consistent pattern too as well. dons always appear at the red strikes there

• don too at 00:11:294 - . the reason same like above

• dons at 00:15:232 - and 00:15:607 - ; and kats at 00:15:419 - and 00:15:795 - . to follow the stucture too, like above too

• don at 00:19:544 ?

• you can add finisher at 00:38:482 - for the new part of the song. it comes at here

• move 01:20:575 - to 01:20:763 - and change 01:20:669 - to be don. so it will be ooo triplet. i changed them because i just want to follow like the previous pattern. if you change it, the patterns are o ooo o o ooo o o from 01:19:732 - until 01:21:232 - . much better pattern right?

• finisher at 01:27:607 - . well, i just saw that you used it too at every end of the song at this map


====================


[ Inner Oni]

General
☞ SV can be changed to be 1.40

speed up at 01:15:982 - ? well, consider it again about the speed up there

Notes Structure
☞ nothing~ fine here

Notes
• 00:03:982 - don too, same like Muzukashii and Oni mods

• 00:04:544 - don too here, same like Muzukashii and Oni mods

• 00:08:950 - change to be ooo. the triplet which is given much stronger than you use ooo triplet. same like Oni diff too that i told you at the previous mod

• 00:15:232 - and 00:15:607 - should be don ; and 00:15:419 - and 00:15:795 - should be kat. i changed them because to follow the o o o o patterns from 00:14:482 -

• 00:16:544 - should be kat, to follow the kat pattern too like 00:16:170 - ; 00:16:920 - ; and 00:17:294 -

• delete 00:20:200 - , because the stream has stopped at 00:20:107 -

• add finisher at 00:38:107 - ? for the stong pitch sound too at there? same like 00:41:107 - that you used it too

• add finisher at 00:38:482 - . it's for the new part of the song comes at there

• don at 00:40:732 - . the vocal sound is low at here, same as 00:40:544 -

• don at 00:43:732 - . the reason same like above ^ . for the low vocal sound there

• finisher too at the end of the song 01:27:607 - . the reason is same like Oni diff


=====================


okay that's all from me.
goodluck :)
Coro
Taiko mod~
All are suggestions unless in red.

[Gabe's Kantan]
00:25:732 - add d here, it sounds too empty
00:57:232 (81) - change to d to follow the pitch
01:09:232 (101) - ^

[Futsuu]
00:54:232 (9) - change to d to follow pitch
00:55:357 - add d
00:59:107 (22) - change to d, since the ソイヤ ソイヤ is only for the first two notes
01:06:232 (40) - change, same as earlier
01:07:357 - add d, same as earlier
01:12:232 (54) - change, same

[Muzukashii]
00:49:357 (169) - change to d
01:03:044 (51,52) - make these k as well, that percussion instrument plays at only one pitch so it fits better

[Oni]
nothing~

[Inner Oni]
00:42:419 (3) - change to k, d doesn't make sense musically

good luck for rank~
Topic Starter
Stefan

mingmichael wrote:

hey stefan :) here's your mod request from me

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it

====================

[ Kantan]

General
☞ nothing~

Notes Stucture
try use the Finishers wisely at the Kiai part. well, try to avoid to many finishers at Kantan diff. at least, you can use them at the Kiai starts and Kiai ends.

Notes
• add don at 00:16:357 - to follow the 3-notes 1-note 1-note 3-notes pattern there. like the previous notes that you used it. well, this's better to if you change this, to follow the structure

• 00:17:857 (17) - move to 00:19:357 - and add kat at 00:20:107 - so it'll be o o o o o. don't worry, 5-notes with that stucture isn't hard for the Kantan player :D and then, i change them too to follow the 3-notes 1-note 1-note 3-notes pattern, like the first mod also. you should use this if you use my first mod, because it should be consistent

• move 00:25:357 - to 00:25:732 - and change don. well, i think it's better at 00:25:732 - than you put before. this note will also follow the vocal sound too which becomes a little lower there

• remove the finisher here 00:52:732 - . it's quite hard to using the to many finisher at Kantan diff

• 00:55:732 - ^

• 00:57:982 - and 00:58:732 - ^

• how about use finisher at 00:59:482 - and delete 00:59:857 - if you use my previous mod ^ ?

• 01:04:732 - remove the finsiher

• 01:06:982 - and 01:07:732 - ^

• finisher too at 01:11:482 - if you add finisher too at 00:59:482 - , because it should consistent


====================


[ Futsuu]

General
☞ nothing~

Note Stucture
☞ no problem here c: nice~

Note
• 00:03:607 - kat and 00:03:982 - kat. i changed them because the banyo sound (i guess it is) becomes quite higher at 00:03:607 - and it becomes lower at 00:03:982 - . and the pitch sound is same like 00:03:232 - too. well, if you use this mod too, the pattern will be nice too. look from 00:03:232 - until 00:05:482 - , it will be o o o and o o o kay, changed 00:03:232 (2) to k.

• don at 00:16:732 - and kat at 00:17:107 - . i heard that 00:16:732 - still have a same pitch sound like 00:15:982 - ; 00:16:169 - and 00:16:357 - . they have low vocal sounds. and kat at 00:17:107 - , i is for the little higher pitch sound too than four notes before it. and then, the kat too will follow the kat pattern which appears at the white strike automatically too :D it'll be a better pattern too right? http://puu.sh/59fOe.jpg Indeed.

• wwww epic slider 00:18:982 - wwwww

• don at 00:54:232 - to follow the vocal sound which becomes lower at this part. wello o o isn't hard a hard pattern for Futsuu diff, don't worry~ Seems good to be used, changed.

• 00:55:732 - and 00:56:482 - should be dons, because to follow the generic structure. look at from the kiai start. the pattern is o o o o right? so at 00:55:732 - should be don. because the kat at the 00:55:357 - wasn't put by you, so it empy :P and then too, 00:55:732 - has a same pitch sound (vocal sound) like 00:54:982 - . both of them are low pitch sounds. and you put o o too at 01:07:732 (43,44) -:c be consistent with patterns The voice on 00:55:732 feels unnatural to play as don. Due the break phase (1/1) it's fine here.

• 00:56:107 - kat if you use my previous mod [/color]

• kat at 00:57:044 - ? to follow the vocal pitch sound which becomes a little higher at there than 00:56:857 - and 00:57:232 - Meh, I'd say ddk is fine but dkd is more derp for that tbh.

• 01:06:232 - don? for the vocal again which is lower here as above.


====================


[ Muzukashii]

General
☞ nothing~

Notes Structure
☞ no problem here c:

Notes
• don at 00:03:982 - ? well, the banyo sound is lowest at here :c than 00:03:232 - and 00:03:607 - , but why did you use kat at 00:03:982 - ? ;w; I find the rhythm is fitting.

• don at 00:04:544 - ? if you use my previous mod ^ ^

• delete 00:15:794 - . there doesn't use a note there, cause the vocal doesn't appear too at there good catch, removed.

• don at 00:21:607 - to follow the vocal sound which becomes low suddenly at there from 00:21:419 - Well... yes, changed.

• you can add a note (don) at 00:36:419 - follow the vocal sound again :D done.

• kat here 00:39:607 - . well to follow the kats pattern at the white strike as a beat [/color]

• kat at 00:43:357 - and don at 00:43:732 - . it'll make the better failing pitch sounds. o o o o Alright.

• kat 00:57:982 ? for the vocal too which increases here It has however not a better effect so I keep don here.

• kat at 01:01:356 - and delete 01:01:544 - . kat at 01:01:356 - is for the kat pattern which appears at the white strike. and i deleted 01:01:544 - because there's not any vocal sound which is better to follow it, like the preivous and next notes. and it gives a little break too c: [/color]

• don 01:09:232 - ? the vocal becomes lower at here too nope. I have used in all other Diffs a kat here, I don't get it why it would be now wrong.


====================


[ Oni]

General
SV change to be 1.40. i think 1.60 is quite hard for 160BPM I keep the current SV.

Notes Structure
from 00:08:482 - until 00:11:482 - , mostly you used o o o o patterns there. dons are at the red strikes and kats are at the blue strikes. but, some of the notes didn't follow them. well, maybe because you follow the vocal sounds, it's no problem. but, it has some notes that you should change them to follow that patterns. later you can look at the Notes box I think this part is fitting with the vocals ANd the BGM. Well, I've fixed 00:10:450 (2) - to a don.

Notes
• 00:03:982 - don here. same as Muzukashii mod. the banyo sound becomes lower at here as before.

• 00:04:544 - don too, same as Muzukashii mod as before.

• kat at 00:08:575 - ; 00:08:950 - ; and 00:09:325 - . ooo triplets give stonger sounds at this part than ooo before :c It's not logical to put 00:09:325 (1) - as kat if you listen the voice carefully. Agreed with the other firsts.

• don at 00:09:794 - . to follow the stucture too, like at 00:08:669 - ; 00:09:044 - ; and 00:09:419 - . it will make a consistent pattern too as well. dons always appear at the red strikes there true.

• don too at 00:11:294 - . the reason same like above ^

• dons at 00:15:232 - and 00:15:607 - ; and kats at 00:15:419 - and 00:15:795 - . to follow the stucture too, like above too It actually does with Dons on Red and Kats on white. o.o"

• don at 00:19:544 ? The banyo (?) fits with kat.

• you can add finisher at 00:38:482 - for the new part of the song. it comes at here

• move 01:20:575 - to 01:20:763 - and change 01:20:669 - to be don. so it will be ooo triplet. i changed them because i just want to follow like the previous pattern. if you change it, the patterns are o ooo o o ooo o o from 01:19:732 - until 01:21:232 - . much better pattern right? That's really better, added.

• finisher at 01:27:607 - . well, i just saw that you used it too at every end of the song at this map woops.


====================


[ Inner Oni]

General
☞ SV can be changed to be 1.40 as in Oni.

speed up at 01:15:982 - ? well, consider it again about the speed up there

Notes Structure
☞ nothing~ fine here

Notes
• 00:03:982 - don too, same like Muzukashii and Oni mods as before.

• 00:04:544 - don too here, same like Muzukashii and Oni mods as before.

• 00:08:950 - change to be ooo. the triplet which is given much stronger than you use ooo triplet. same like Oni diff too that i told you at the previous mod That's true! fixed.

• 00:15:232 - and 00:15:607 - should be don ; and 00:15:419 - and 00:15:795 - should be kat. i changed them because to follow the o o o o patterns from 00:14:482 - the current pattern feels more enjoyable to play.

• 00:16:544 - should be kat, to follow the kat pattern too like 00:16:170 - ; 00:16:920 - ; and 00:17:294 - I want to be more flexible about hitsounding my stuff. :p

• delete 00:20:200 - , because the stream has stopped at 00:20:107 - Oh..

• add finisher at 00:38:107 - ? for the stong pitch sound too at there? same like 00:41:107 - that you used it too I am not a real fan of this sound here..

• add finisher at 00:38:482 - . it's for the new part of the song comes at there fixed.

• don at 00:40:732 - . the vocal sound is low at here, same as 00:40:544 - yup.

• don at 00:43:732 - . the reason same like above ^ . for the low vocal sound there yup.

• finisher too at the end of the song 01:27:607 - . the reason is same like Oni diff done.


=====================


okay that's all from me.
goodluck :)

CoroQuetz wrote:

Taiko mod~
All are suggestions unless in red.

[Gabe's Kantan]
00:25:732 - add d here, it sounds too empty
00:57:232 (81) - change to d to follow the pitch
01:09:232 (101) - ^

[Futsuu]
00:54:232 (9) - change to d to follow pitch Done.
00:55:357 - add d I use this as short break.
00:59:107 (22) - change to d, since the ソイヤ ソイヤ is only for the first two notes What. Uh.. the strong hit in the background fits better to Kat.
01:06:232 (40) - change, same as earlier Done.
01:07:357 - add d, same as earlier as above.
01:12:232 (54) - change, same Done.

[Muzukashii]
00:49:357 (169) - change to d I think kat seems better due the vocal.
01:03:044 (51,52) - make these k as well, that percussion instrument plays at only one pitch so it fits better A bit unsure to try dkk but let's do it.

[Oni]
nothing~

[Inner Oni]
00:42:419 (3) - change to k, d doesn't make sense musically It fits really good here into the stream.

good luck for rank~
thanks!
Kokatsu
I'm here for the Kudos
20:17 Kokatsu: Stofun.
20:19 Stefan: joa
20:19 *Kokatsu is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/261183 MomoKuro-tei Ichimon - Nippon Egao Hyakkei (TV Size) [Futsuu]]
20:19 Stefan: Okay, ich spiel das noch schnell fertig.
20:19 Kokatsu: Oki.
20:19 Stefan: Kannst aber schonmal was schreiben.
20:19 Kokatsu: Ich rauch dann noch eine. :pö
20:20 Stefan: okay orz
20:23 Kokatsu: So.
20:24 Kokatsu: Als erstes würde ich HP 3 und OD 4 benutzen, weil OD das Trainieren von Genauigkeit verbessert, wenn du dabei dann OD3 benutzt sind passes easy aber der Lerneffekt ist höher.
20:25 Stefan: Sollte ich entsprechend Kantan darauf anstimmen?
20:25 Kokatsu: Ich finde, dass deine Pattern ein bisschen zu überzogen sind für eine Futsuu.
20:25 Kokatsu: Die Kantan kann so bleiben.
20:26 Stefan: Okay, hm.. überzogen?
20:26 Kokatsu: Ja, ein bisschen zu lang.
20:26 Kokatsu: 00:09:607 (5) - Delete z.B.
20:26 Stefan: k
20:26 Kokatsu: bzw. lass den und lösch lieber 00:11:482 (11) -
20:27 Kokatsu: Ausser natürlich du willst den Downbeat unbedingt haben, dann ersteres.
20:27 Stefan: Ersteres hört sich imo besser an.
20:27 Kokatsu: Wie du willst. ;D
20:28 Kokatsu: 00:17:857 (27,28) - einen von den beiden weg, ohne kat finde ich das Pattern besser aber ohne Don wäre es passend zu der Pause davor.
20:30 Stefan: Hab 27 entfernt
20:30 Kokatsu: 00:22:732 (37,38,39,40,41) - hört sich falsch an, lösch mal 38 und 41.
20:32 Kokatsu: 00:28:544 - hier evtl. ein Don, macht das ganze zwar schwerer, aber da der Part relativ leicht ist im Vergleich zum Rest sollte das klargehen, ausserdem hast du so perfekt das Instrument abgedeckt.
20:33 Kokatsu: 00:30:982 (56,57,58,59) - Vllt. 57 und 59 löschen und dafür die beiden anderen zu bigs machen?
20:33 Stefan: Löscht du auch die Circles mit? xD
20:34 Kokatsu: 00:35:857 (65) - Der sollte wohl kat sein, oder etwa nicht?
20:34 Kokatsu: Teilweise. xD
20:34 Stefan: Weil das ist gerade ein wenig irritierend.
20:34 Kokatsu: Warte, ich lösch die eben.
20:34 Stefan: Danke. orz
20:34 Kokatsu: 00:30:982 (54,55,56,57) -
20:35 Stefan: Also.. 00:22:919 (37) - 00:23:857 (40) - löschen?
20:35 Kokatsu: Ah mist, hast du den Don bei 00:28:544? xD
20:35 Kokatsu: Warte. xD
20:35 Kokatsu: Genau.
20:36 Stefan: 00:28:732 - Don hin?
20:36 Kokatsu: 1/2 davor, ja.
20:36 Stefan: okay.
20:36 Kokatsu: 00:30:982 (56,57,58,59) -
20:37 Kokatsu: Das wäre das pattern wo ich 575 und 59 löschen würde und die beiden anderen zu bigs machen würde.
20:37 Stefan: okay
20:37 Kokatsu: 00:35:857 (65) - Das sollte ein Kat sein.
20:37 Stefan: Okay
20:37 Kokatsu: 00:41:107 (78) - Big kat?
20:38 Kokatsu: 00:44:107 (86) - ^
20:38 Stefan: Ja.
20:38 Kokatsu: Ab 00:41:857 (80) - http://puu.sh/5FbWE.jpg ?
20:39 Stefan: Jo, mach ich.
20:39 Stefan: Ich würde zwar gerne 00:42:607 (82,83) - zu d k machen
20:39 Stefan: Aber das ist doch eine Nummer zu groß.
20:40 Kokatsu: I agree.
20:40 Kokatsu: 00:48:232 (94,95,96,97) - Was soll das?
20:40 Stefan: 95 wurde gelöscht.
20:40 Kokatsu: :D
20:41 Stefan: 96/97 folgt der Stimme.
20:41 Kokatsu: Ja, das versteh' ich wohl, nur das Pattern wie es vorher war war sinnlos.
20:41 Kokatsu: 00:53:107 (5) - Delete?
20:42 Kokatsu: Hier lieber k d
20:42 Kokatsu: 00:56:107 (12,13) -
20:43 Kokatsu: 00:57:982 (18,19,20) - und damit das ganze nicht zu lang wird, lösch' 19 und mach bigs aus den beiden anderen.
20:44 Kokatsu: 01:02:482 (26,27,28,29,30,31) - Da die alle den gleiche pitch haben würde ich hier k k kkk benutzen.
20:45 Stefan: 00:53:107 (5) - hab ick nicht gelöscht.
20:45 Stefan: Ansonsten, alles bislang gemacht.
20:46 Kokatsu: 01:15:982 - ab hier solltest du am Ende jedes Patterns (also vor jedem 2/1 break) den don zu einem big don machen.
20:46 Kokatsu: Also 01:18:982 (67) -
20:46 Kokatsu: lol
20:46 Stefan: http://puu.sh/5Fcp0.jpg ?
20:47 Stefan: Achso
20:48 Kokatsu: Wenn du das hast, auf zur Muzu. :)
20:48 Stefan: Okay, ready.
20:48 Kokatsu: 00:09:044 (6) - kat mb?
20:49 Kokatsu: 00:12:794 (22) - don hier gibt eine bessere Überleitung.
20:49 Stefan: 00:09:044 (6) - Sieht vielleicht mehr konsistent aus, aber gefällt mir wirklich nicht. :c
20:49 Stefan: 00:12:794 (22) - joho
20:49 Kokatsu: Oki.
20:50 Stefan: 00:12:044 (19) - das auch?
20:50 Stefan: Als d
20:50 Kokatsu: Nee
20:50 Kokatsu: Das passt so super.
20:50 Kokatsu: Mit dem 5-let davor hast du inprinzip (dd)kkd kkd kdd k ddk
20:50 Kokatsu: flowt gut so.
20:50 Kokatsu: Flow in 'ner Muzu, lol.
20:50 Kokatsu: Du weisst was ich meine. xD
20:51 Stefan: Jojo
20:51 Kokatsu: 00:26:857 (81,82,83) - d k d?
20:51 Stefan: okay
20:52 Kokatsu: 00:31:919 (98,99,100,101) - d k k D?
20:52 Kokatsu: 00:32:857 (102,103,104) - Das natürlich dann auch wieder als d k d.
20:52 Stefan: d k d D hört sich imo besser an.
20:52 Kokatsu: Oki.
20:52 Kokatsu: 00:38:107 (120) - big kat?
20:53 Stefan: Hmm..
20:53 Kokatsu: 00:40:544 (130) - kat?
20:53 Stefan: Hab ich schonmal zuvor abgelehnt.
20:53 Stefan: passt imo nicht so sehr.
20:53 Kokatsu: Ich finde das passt ganz gut, vorallem weil du dann K D hast
20:53 Kokatsu: Was generell mega geil ist. xD
20:54 Stefan: Na gut, ich probier es mal aus. :P
20:54 Kokatsu: :3
20:54 Kokatsu: 00:42:794 (141) - dingdang don
20:54 Kokatsu: 00:41:107 (132) - Achja, big pls.
20:54 Kokatsu: 00:44:107 (146) - und den auch.
20:55 Kokatsu: 00:49:544 (1) - Ich meine in der Futsuu war der Spinner länger, warum hier nicht?
20:55 Stefan: magic~
20:55 Stefan: I mean fixed
20:56 Kokatsu: :P 00:53:857 (12) - don?
20:56 Stefan: Jo
20:56 Kokatsu: 00:58:357 (31,32) - big?
20:56 Kokatsu: 00:59:107 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41) - kkd kdd ddk
20:57 Stefan: Ja
20:57 Stefan: Done done done
20:57 Kokatsu: 01:03:044 (50,51,52) - Warum dkk? Die Musik sagt kkk
20:57 Kokatsu: 01:03:607 (54) - Das auch als kat.
20:57 Stefan: Fixed.
20:57 Kokatsu: 01:05:857 (66) - Don wie oben.
20:58 Kokatsu: 01:09:982 (82) - big don mb?
20:58 Kokatsu: 01:10:544 (84) - und hier ein kat pl0x.
20:59 Stefan: 01:09:982 (82) - Ne.. also, das finde ich wirklich weird. :c
20:59 Stefan: 01:10:544 (84) - Okay.
20:59 Kokatsu: Oki. :(
20:59 Kokatsu: 01:15:232 (103,104) - mach ein triplet ddd draus?
21:00 Kokatsu: 01:21:419 (131,132) - beide big?
21:00 Kokatsu: 01:26:294 (151,152) - Und das sollte k d sein.
21:00 Stefan: 01:15:232 (103,104) - nö
21:00 Stefan: Rest, jo
21:00 Kokatsu: Onurrrrr.
21:01 Kokatsu: Ich würde bei der erstmal noch mit SV 1,4 arbeiten.
21:01 Stefan: Guut.
21:01 Stefan: Wegen BPM?
21:01 Kokatsu: Nein, wegen Spread.
21:01 Stefan: Ah.
21:02 Kokatsu: Wenn du 1,6 da benutzt haben die Spieler, die Onis gerade so können, troubles
21:02 Kokatsu: TROUBLE, TROUBLE, TROUBLEEE
21:02 Stefan: Also ich habe keine TROUBLES da. :^)
21:03 Stefan: moment ;w;
21:03 Kokatsu: oki
21:05 Kokatsu: Kann ich weitermachen?
21:06 Stefan: Das erwarte ich!
21:06 Kokatsu: :D
21:06 Kokatsu: 00:12:231 (1,2,3,1) - vllt k d d k? Als reverse zum pattern direkt davor
21:08 Kokatsu: 00:23:669 (3,4,1,1) - dkk k passt hier besser.
21:08 Kokatsu: 00:38:107 (1) - big kat pls.
21:09 Stefan: 00:12:231 (1,2,3,1) - hab ich zu k d k k gemacht.
21:10 Kokatsu: 00:42:232 (1,2,3,1,1,2,1,1) - Bisschen sehr overmapped für die normale Oni, versuchs mal [http://puu.sh/5FdOP.jpg hiermit].
21:11 Kokatsu: 00:44:294 - hier fehlt ein big kat.
21:11 Stefan: Jo.
21:11 Stefan: 00:44:107 - ?
21:11 Stefan: Nicht eher hier?
21:12 Kokatsu: Da ist schon einer, danach fehlt einer.
21:12 Stefan: Ah. okay
21:12 Kokatsu: Su - ya
21:12 Kokatsu: Beide Silben brauchen einen. :D
21:12 Kokatsu: 00:45:232 (2) - kat for dem consistency mit dem next patternzZ
21:13 Kokatsu: 00:55:544 (3,4) - Auch wenn's vllt ein bisschen langweilig klingt würde ich hier nochmal k d benutzen.
21:13 Kokatsu: Kannst dafür ja 00:56:294 (3,4) - hier d k benutzen.
21:14 Stefan: Gemacht.
21:15 Kokatsu: 01:02:482 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - Da du das triplet nicht zu bigs machen kannst sollten die anderen auch keine bigs sein.
21:15 Kokatsu: 01:10:450 - hier passt noch gut ein kat mit rein.
21:16 Kokatsu: 01:13:357 (1,2,1) - Das triplet passt überhaupt nicht, ich würde sogar sagen, dass du einfach die letzten beiden davon löschst, die Pause ist 10mal besser als forced notes.
21:17 Kokatsu: 01:21:419 (1,2) - big pl0x
21:17 Kokatsu: 01:27:419 (1) - delete maybe?=
21:19 Kokatsu: Dann wären wir bei der Inner.
21:20 Kokatsu: 00:23:669 (3,4,1) - dkk
21:20 Kokatsu: 00:24:700 (1) - kat
21:20 Kokatsu: 00:27:419 (1) - don
21:21 Kokatsu: 00:33:419 (1) - don
21:21 Kokatsu: 00:38:107 (1) - big kat
21:21 Kokatsu: 00:49:544 (1) - wieder mal zu kurz.
21:22 Kokatsu: 01:02:482 (3,4,5,6,7,1,1,2,3,4) - Wie in der Oni pls, auch das 5-let ist unnötig.
21:22 Kokatsu: 01:09:794 (5) - don?
21:23 Kokatsu: 01:27:232 (1,1) - erstes don zweite delete.
21:23 Kokatsu: Feddich. :D
21:24 Stefan: yay
21:24 Stefan: Danke <3
21:24 Stefan: u post u kd
21:24 Kokatsu: uki
21:24 Stefan: *I kd u
TKS
hi.


[ Inner Oni]
  1. 00:08:107 (1) - finisher. sounds good for flow.
  2. 00:09:419 (1) - => 00:09:325 - . i felt a bit weird empty.
  3. 00:16:544 (1) - k sound goes well with Shamisen(Japanese guitar) and vocal.
  4. 00:42:044 (1) - change to d? k is a bit noisy for me.
  5. 00:47:388 (3) - del. if you isolate this pattern, it should work more smoothly.
  6. 00:51:607 (1) - no finisher. indeed, this point has a bit strong sound. but you should emphasize 00:51:982 (1) -
  7. 00:58:919 (2,1) - swap them. sounds good.


    good Inner Oni :3c

[ Oni]
  1. remove the Widescreen Support.

  2. 00:08:107 (1) - finisher. sounds good for flow.
  3. 00:18:607 (1) - add finisher. so, same as Inner Oni.
    and 00:18:794 (1) or 00:20:294 (1) - del. need an empty like 00:14:294 -
  4. 00:25:169 (1,1) - if you following the vocal sounds, i recommend to del them.
  5. 00:25:732 (1) - change to d? sounds good with 00:25:919 (1,2,3) -
  6. 00:51:607 (1) - no finisher. same reason as Inner Oni.
  7. 00:58:919 (2,1) - swap. same reason as Inner Oni.
  8. 01:02:294 (2) - change to d? balance of the k is a little bad.

[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:08:107 (1) - finisher.
  2. 00:08:575 (3) - del. why triplet only here? i felt unbalance a bit.
  3. 00:09:794 (9) - also, del?
  4. 00:18:607 (41) - finisher?
  5. 00:22:732 (59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71) - too busy patterns suddenly ;-; del 00:23:294 (63) and 00:24:044 (67) - ?
  6. 00:56:669 - ddd(1/4) here?
    and 00:57:232 (28) - change to k? triplet will be good accent with your used kk twins.
  7. 00:59:482 (35) - finisher? same as Oni~Inner
  8. 00:59:763 - add k? sounds good.
    and 01:00:232 (39) - change to k? good fit to vocal.
  9. 01:15:325 - add d? plays better.


[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:16:169 (22) => 00:16:544 - move here.
  2. 00:34:544 - add d same as 00:28:544 (50) -
  3. 00:35:857 (66,67,68) - i think its ok to delete these for the flow of song.
  4. 00:58:732 (20) - a bit weird finisher. still 00:59:482 (22) - is better same as Oni~Inner
  5. 01:08:107 (42) => 01:09:044 - maybe, here? current pattern has a bit weird rhythm

[ Gabe's Kantan]
  1. 00:03:982 (4) - basically, i dont recommend a slider on Kantan. indeed, beat is not essential. but it is about the same as 1/4 stream. so change to d instead?
  2. 00:05:107 (5) - => 00:04:732 - current rhythm is hard to beat a bit.
  3. 00:25:357 (29) - => 00:25:732
    and 00:26:107 (30) - del. i didnt feel the need for much on Kantan.
  4. 00:31:357 (39) - => 00:31:732 -
    and 00:32:107 (40) - del. same reason as above.
  5. 00:36:232 (47) - del. here is a quiet part. maybe empty is better.
  6. 00:37:357 (48,49) - these d k move to right side on 1/1. sounds good.
  7. 00:46:357 (63) - del. good fit to flow.
  8. 00:48:982 (66) - change to spinner? same reason as 00:03:982
  9. 01:01:357 (18) - => 01:02:107 - here? will fit more.
  10. 01:25:732 (56) - finisher? i felt unnatural.
i didnt feel a big issues.
keep going! good luck :oops:
Topic Starter
Stefan
Took almost every suggestion by TKS' Mod, I've didn't checked for Gabe's Kantan because I have (with permission of him) edited by myself to be more suitable in its level. Futsuu also got some changes from me.







wow, we got already 10 months on this sh----- hi mommy
PatZar
D = Big Don
d = Small Don
K = Big Kat
k = Small Kat

[Oni]
01:09:232 (2) d
01:09:982 (5) d
01:22:732 (1) k
01:22:919 (1) d
01:23:107 (1) k

All of the diff is good
Good Luck ;)
Love
did an irc mod

SPOILER
11:01 Love: soz lol
11:01 Stefan: no problem. Uh, should we do the Mod today?
11:01 Love: yeah, gonna have to make this quick
11:02 Stefan: Sure, just let me know when you're able. :3
11:02 *Love is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/261186 MomoKuro-tei Ichimon - Nippon Egao Hyakkei (TV Size) [Inner Oni]]
11:02 Stefan: oh
11:02 Stefan: lol
11:02 Stefan: ok
11:03 Love: ready?
11:03 Stefan: yup
11:04 Love: 00:14:169 (1,1) - These could be removed, no reason to go with the background and there's no where else in the map that uses 1/6
11:05 Stefan: Well, okay then. removed
11:06 Love: 00:17:763 - add a k here just for a little overmap? only a suggestion
11:07 Stefan: Sounds fine.
11:07 Love: kk
11:08 Love: 00:47:013 (1) - Remove this, the roll is pretty long for nothing really being there.
11:09 Stefan: Hmm this actually sounds with d better. Just noticed that.
11:09 Stefan: And I think I will keep that with d now.
11:09 Love: kk
11:11 Love: 00:54:982 (1) - Remove the finisher on this, there's nothing really to emphasize besides the vocal which doesn't show much power
11:12 Stefan: Done.
11:13 Love: 01:06:982 (1) - same as before
11:18 Love: 01:21:044 (3,1) - invert these two to dk for better flow
11:18 Love: 01:27:044 (3,1) - ^
11:20 Stefan: eyup
11:20 Stefan: Sounds a bit weird with the vocals but feels better to play.
11:22 Love: 00:54:044 (3) - change this to a d for the vocal change and better flow as well
11:22 Love: and same goes with 01:05:763 (1) -
11:22 Stefan: done
11:22 Stefan: I agree!
11:23 Love: and then add 1.5x sv on 01:27:607 -
11:24 Stefan: Hmkay.
11:27 Love: how long will you be on?
11:28 Stefan: I got time
11:28 Stefan: It's half 8 p.m. here
11:29 Stefan: I probably go sleeping around 2-3 a.m.
11:29 Love: kk, I'll be back in 30 mins to an hour
11:29 Stefan: Alright
12:26 Love: ok you here? XD
12:27 Stefan: yeee
12:28 Stefan: We stopped at Oni, right?
12:29 Love: yeah
12:29 Love: 00:09:232 (1,1,1,2,1) - try making this k ddk, this will fit a bit more than kdkdk, and it wouldn't feel as bland to play
12:30 Stefan: kk
12:32 Stefan: ok
12:32 Love: 00:09:982 - 00:10:732 - Try [http://puu.sh/8wmJc/8333bfd7c5.jpg this] so it's not so overmapped and also feels better to play.
12:33 Stefan: Done ehre
12:34 Stefan: *here
12:36 Love: 00:14:950 (2) - Remove this since the 1/4 vocal isn't here as well
12:36 Stefan: Done here.
12:37 Love: 00:54:138 (1) - Remove this to slow the overmap down and give a little comfort.
12:38 Stefan: Done.
12:38 Love: 00:54:982 (1) - remove the finisher on that since no emphasis
12:40 Love: 01:06:138 (1) - Remove for the overmap as well.
12:40 Love: and then 01:06:982 (1) - remove the finisher XD
12:43 Stefan: done done done aaaaaaaaaand... done.
12:43 Love: 01:11:107 (2,3,1) - make this k k so it's easier to flow into the finisher and keep consistent with the vocal/shamisen
12:44 Stefan: kk
12:44 Love: that should be it for that diff
12:44 Stefan: okidoki
12:45 Love: 00:09:044 (5) - add a k to this to fit the vocals a bit more
12:46 Stefan: ok
12:47 Love: 00:09:419 (7) - Remove this since the actual song uses 1/4 on this
12:51 Love: 01:02:295 (48) - Remove that so it's easier to burst the next long part
12:51 Stefan: hm
12:52 Stefan: That 1/1 sounds weird on 00:09:419 - if you ask me.
12:52 Stefan: But that's true that 1/4 is actually the song here
12:52 Stefan: 01:02:295 (48) - removed.
12:53 Love: well, your oni is pretty easy, and to use those as doubles would actually be pretty bad
12:53 Stefan: true story.
12:53 Love: I've mapped this on muzu before, had to use doubles since the oni was sooo hard
12:53 Stefan: At least I am not the only who thinks that. orz
12:53 Love: XD
12:54 Stefan: Thought it was me again being bad by not being able to play this well
12:54 Stefan: At all, because of your Difficulty I have started to use doubles, I swear. lol
12:54 Stefan: And maybe another Difficulty from a random map idk atm.
12:55 Love: XD
12:55 Love: plz lol
12:55 Stefan: Well, what about the Doubles I have used in this Diff?
12:55 Stefan: 00:52:263 (3,4) - as example
12:55 Love: I don't think I used them there
12:56 Stefan: well I actually asked if they are fine in my Diff.
12:56 Stefan: Since Oni is easy for its difficulty level
12:56 Love: well
12:56 Love: there were no doubles and not that many long streams in the oni
12:57 Love: and the places where the doubles are used kinda feel wierd
12:57 Stefan: You know, the current Inner Oni was the old Oni Diff
12:57 Stefan: But I thought the gap from Muzu to Oni was too big so I did a easier Oni Diff
12:57 Love: but that's still on your own map XD
12:57 Love: 2 different guest diffs
12:58 Love: I had to fit the oni a little more
12:58 Love: lol
12:59 Stefan: well
13:00 Stefan: I removed some Doubles
13:00 Stefan: Because they do not feel too essential for the Diff at all
13:01 Stefan: I've kept 01:11:763 (85,86) - and 00:59:763 (35,36) -
13:02 Love: well if you clean that up at the beginning of the kiai, add a d at 00:53:763 -
13:02 Stefan: Okay.
13:02 Stefan: Added on 01:05:763 - as well
13:03 Love: yeah, was gonna point that out
13:03 Love: XD
13:03 Stefan: w
13:03 Love: 01:13:544 (94,95) - move these down 1/2 for the vocals
13:05 Love: onto the futsuu after that
13:05 Stefan: alright.
13:07 Stefan: btw Gabe gave me his permission to do changes on his Difficulty, js.
13:07 Love: I know XP
13:09 Stefan: kk there :3c
13:09 Love: 00:41:857 (78) - remove this since the K before was used as variety
13:11 Stefan: Okay
13:12 Love: 00:58:357 (17,18) - Try removing these for a nice looking break and will have more emphasis on the clap on 00:59:107 -
13:16 Love: and remove 01:02:107 (23) - for a break into the next burst of notes
13:16 Love: same with 01:13:357 (49,51) -
13:18 Stefan: Done here
13:18 Stefan: everything
13:19 Love: and remove 01:20:107 (63) - for consistency with the break before it
13:21 Stefan: yup
13:24 Love: 00:30:232 (33) - Remove this for a little break
13:24 Love: 00:36:232 (40) - same for this one
13:24 Stefan: 00:36:232 - removed too
13:24 Stefan: w
13:24 Love: and 00:48:232 (59) - lol
13:25 Love: same with 00:58:732 (13) -
13:26 Love: and 01:04:732 -
13:29 Stefan: Everything done
13:31 Love: 01:26:857 (32) - and remove this while making 01:27:607 (34) - a k, this will keep the same feeling and actually emphasize 01:27:607 - more
13:32 Stefan: done.
13:33 Love: that should be it
13:34 Stefan: Do you have the Chatlog or should I send it to you?
13:34 Love: I can savelog XP

since updated before I posted, bubbled.
Aurele
omg.
Topic Starter
Stefan
IS THERE SOMEONE
MMzz
Inner Oni:
00:12:325 (1,2) - Swap these two and make 00:12:794 (1) - a kat. This follows the rhythm much better and has more constructive flow leading into the stream at 00:12:982 (2) - .
00:14:950 (2) - Move this note to 00:15:138. Follows the vocal rhythm much better and feels like a more natural place to use 1/4.
00:39:982 (1) - Change to don. This feels more natural to play after the kddkd, and much better to play leading into the next kddkd.
00:40:732 (1) - Makes more sense as a kat because the note after the previous kddkd was one as well and there was no change in the music.
00:42:982 (1) - This is a pretty big suggest, not a requirement but something I think can be good for the map. Instead of: I would try something along these lines: This feels much more in sync with the song and less empty compared to other patterns in this part of the music.

Muzukashii:
00:29:857 (88) - Change this to a kat, then delete 00:30:044 (89) - . This brings out the vocals a lot better. A really good thing to do with lower difficulties because that is what the new players will pay attention too instead of the beat/vocals put together.

Futsuu:

HP4
00:08:857 (3) - Move to 00:09:607. This will make a much more stable rhythm for a beginner and it is relative to the rhythm you use in the rest of the map.
00:11:107 (9) - Change to kat. Same reason as above.
00:11:857 (11) - Move to 00:12:607 change to don. Same reason as above.
00:14:857 (19) - Move to 00:15:232 (19) - change to don. Same reason as above.

Mostly suggestions. Though I highly recommend you change the stuff in Futsuu. Look over the mod and call me back when you are ready for a heart.
Topic Starter
Stefan
Took everything you've suggested, checked through all difficulties and it's pretty much ready. :3c
MMzz
Ranked!
Topic Starter
Stefan
Thanks! ^^
Piine
Well it time to get good at Taiko....

Oh and grats Stefan
Asagi Mutsuki
Gratz Stefan :D love the song kk
Nwolf
yay gz :>
KinomiCandy
EGAO
Gero
Grats Stefan
Topic Starter
Stefan
Thank you all!





:^)
[Yue]
Gratz Stefan :3
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