18:28 Irreversible: hello
18:29 Irreversible: are you free?
18:30 Liiraye: yo
18:30 Liiraye: yeah one second
18:31 Liiraye: go ahead bro
18:33 Irreversible: 00:30:392 (7,8,9) - it's a bit gimmicky i guess..
18:33 Irreversible: i guess it would be more confortable with a 1/6 slider?
18:34 Irreversible: nvm
18:34 Liiraye: lets see
18:35 Irreversible: i guess it's fine anyway
18:36 Irreversible: 00:30:392 (1) - maybe you could simply add nc here, to let the player know it's different. up to you tho
18:36 Liiraye: myeah those small ones that are 1/6 streams should be fine
18:36 Liiraye: there was a longer one I was uncertain about but I think it manages atm 01:10:813 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
18:36 Liiraye: yeah that's true
18:37 Liiraye: 00:40:497 (1) -
18:37 Liiraye: like that one
18:37 Irreversible: yep

18:37 Irreversible: well, nothing unrankable or so, but just something that came into my mind
18:37 Irreversible: 00:39:076 (2,3,4,5) -
18:37 Irreversible: those beats are pretty strong
18:37 Irreversible: why having them stacked?
18:38 Liiraye: hm
18:38 Liiraye: true
18:38 Irreversible: a rather big movement would feel really cool here
18:38 Liiraye: I want to do something like this 03:43:793 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
18:38 Liiraye: but it feels too hard?
18:38 Liiraye: for the start at least
18:39 Liiraye: or idk
18:39 Irreversible: wait let me see..
18:39 Liiraye: ill try something out
18:41 Liiraye: something like this maybe?
18:41 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122059218:41 Irreversible: great :3
18:41 Liiraye: thanks

18:42 Irreversible: 00:50:602 (6,7,8,9) - why so unequal?
18:42 Irreversible: the sound in the background sounds more like increasing
18:42 Irreversible: so either you increase the spacing with each a bit, or just make them equal
18:42 Irreversible: brb diner, i'm so hungry =v=
18:43 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122059618:43 Liiraye: feels nice
18:43 Liiraye: alright
18:45 Liiraye: did this
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122060118:55 Irreversible: back
18:55 Irreversible: sorry, i was terribly hungry orz
18:55 Liiraye: np

18:56 Irreversible: ok where was i stuck..
18:56 Irreversible: dem grammar
18:56 Irreversible: xD
18:57 Liiraye: better talk german
18:57 Liiraye: english grammar sux
18:57 Liiraye: lets see if i understand
18:59 Irreversible: nono xD
19:00 Irreversible: i'm better in modding in german
19:00 Irreversible: english*
19:00 Irreversible: sometimes i don't know the vocab in german xD
19:00 Liiraye: lol
19:00 Liiraye: haha
19:00 Irreversible: 01:10:181 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i wouldn't aim for this rhythm if i'm honest..
19:00 Liiraye: well
19:00 Liiraye: that's true, I have no idea what omit is in swedish
19:00 Irreversible: because the ding ding is too strong here
19:00 Irreversible: and if i click to the current one
19:00 Irreversible: i feel a bit overwhelmed xD
19:00 Irreversible: 01:10:181 (1,2) - actually just those
19:00 Liiraye: those sliders are to indicate that it's 1/6
19:01 Liiraye: so that you feel the stream
19:01 Liiraye: you mean they're too far apart?
19:01 Irreversible: nvm
19:01 Irreversible: well yes
19:01 Irreversible: but don't map to the ding ding as suggested, it lands on 1/16 or something
19:02 Liiraye: I could switch places on the sliders
19:02 Irreversible: but yes, 01:10:181 (1,2,3) - this has a pretty bad flow
19:02 Irreversible: hm well look
19:02 Irreversible: 01:09:550 (3,4) - those two already have a pretty tight angle
19:02 Irreversible: and imo it requiers some more round flow here already
19:03 Irreversible: let's see what i get as suggestion..
19:04 Irreversible:
http://puu.sh/66Tko.jpg19:04 Irreversible: and the second part..
19:04 Liiraye: i think push is down
19:04 Irreversible:
http://puu.sh/66Tpa.jpg19:04 Irreversible: now
19:04 Irreversible: xD
19:04 Liiraye: i cant open those
19:04 Liiraye: D:
19:05 Liiraye: take a screenshot instead
19:05 Liiraye: with osu
19:05 Irreversible: how?
19:05 Irreversible: f12?
19:05 Liiraye: yeah shift f12
19:05 Irreversible: ok..
19:05 Irreversible: well that doesn't work i toggle off wlan with f12
19:05 Irreversible: -.-
19:05 Irreversible: if i press fn + f12 it works
19:05 Irreversible: but fn + shift + f12 doesn
19:05 Irreversible: t
19:06 Liiraye: :S
19:06 Liiraye: does push work for you?
19:06 Liiraye: well i can use gyazo instead
19:07 Irreversible: ?
19:09 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122066419:09 Liiraye: something like this maybe?
19:09 Irreversible: ok
19:09 Irreversible: got it now
19:10 Irreversible:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122066619:10 Irreversible: omg now it tells me i'm uploading too fast
19:10 Irreversible: second screen incoming xD
19:10 Liiraye: haha
19:11 Irreversible:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122067019:11 Irreversible: maybe i shouldn't focus that much on the start.
19:11 Liiraye: hah
19:11 Irreversible: well tell me what you think
19:13 Liiraye: but what do you do with the stream
19:14 Liiraye: after that
19:14 Liiraye: it's looks good other than that

19:17 Irreversible: well
19:17 Irreversible: i didn't know either
19:17 Irreversible: GUESS WHY IT'S NOT SHOWN
19:17 Irreversible: xDDD
19:17 Irreversible: 01:20:918 (1) - nc to indicate the new snapping
19:17 Liiraye: hahahah
19:17 Irreversible: 01:24:076 (1) - interesting direction change
19:19 Irreversible: 01:46:181 (4) - well first of all, NC (i check all ncs afterwards again i guess)
19:19 Irreversible: and secondly, i would decrease the jump a bit
19:19 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1220691 did this
19:19 Irreversible: because like that, i mean i see what you aim for but:
19:20 Irreversible: i guess the player can't enjoy the emphasis of the jup that much because it's like
19:20 Irreversible: w00000000000t
19:20 Liiraye: with the stream xD
19:20 Liiraye: the last one
19:20 Liiraye: haha
19:20 Irreversible: move the stream a bit to the left
19:20 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122069519:21 Liiraye: like that?
19:21 Irreversible: i suggest the same spacing like from slider start 1 to slider start 2
19:21 Irreversible: so it looks neater
19:21 Irreversible: i suppose if the spacing is not equal people get confused
19:21 Liiraye: in that case
19:21 Liiraye: I'll lower the distance from 1 and 2 a bit because it's 1/6 after all
19:22 Irreversible: good idea
19:22 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122070019:23 Irreversible: ~
19:24 Irreversible: tell me when you're up to date xDD
19:24 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122070419:24 Liiraye: lowered distance a bit
19:24 Irreversible:

19:24 Irreversible: well, remember all of those are suggestoins
19:24 Liiraye: that's as far as I go D:
19:25 Irreversible: if you don't agree just tell me xD
19:25 Liiraye: yeah but I agree on that one
19:25 Liiraye: it was a bit to severe
19:25 Liiraye: 01:55:339 (4) - nc?
19:25 Liiraye: because jump time
19:25 Irreversible: yup i like nc
19:25 Irreversible: xD
19:26 Irreversible: well wait
19:26 Irreversible: 01:54:865 (2,3) - those don't sound right to me
19:26 Irreversible: 01:55:181 - BASICALLY the nc should be here
19:26 Liiraye: yeah but since slider
19:26 Liiraye: next one gets it
19:26 Liiraye: also that tone is pretty low
19:27 Irreversible: hm, what about this? :
19:27 Irreversible:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122070919:27 Irreversible: the slider would lead in the jump really nice
19:29 Liiraye: I get what you mean
19:29 Liiraye: but it would change the patterns a lot
19:29 Liiraye: and I kinda like it that way
19:29 Irreversible: i should stop changing eveything while suggesting
19:29 Irreversible: xDD
19:29 Liiraye: lmao
19:29 Irreversible: now i can't see what's the point
19:29 Irreversible: okay then, let's go on
19:29 Liiraye: oki
19:30 Irreversible: 02:01:971 (1) - this finish should be loouder
19:30 Liiraye: 60%
19:31 Irreversible: 120%
19:31 Irreversible: LOLjk
19:31 Liiraye: xDD
19:31 Irreversible: 02:17:129 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - no hitsounds?
19:31 Irreversible: sounds really boring o.o
19:31 Liiraye: added 40% here 02:01:971 (1) -
19:31 Irreversible: add some whistles, or the hitsound you prefer
19:31 Liiraye:

19:32 Liiraye: oh right
19:32 Liiraye: I remade that part
19:32 Liiraye: forgot hitsounds t.T
19:32 Irreversible: 02:18:392 (1) - and i would kinda add a nc here
19:32 Irreversible: it's me, but i like ncing alot
19:32 Irreversible: lol
19:33 Liiraye: done
19:33 Irreversible: 02:21:444 (8,1,2,3,4,5) -
19:33 Irreversible: it's osu, a rhythm game
19:33 Irreversible: not kind of luck game
19:33 Irreversible: lol i'm kidding
19:33 Liiraye: hahaha
19:33 Irreversible: but is it readable? i'm not so sure
19:34 Liiraye: people usually don't have a problem there
19:34 Irreversible: like me, spamming through the whooole map
19:34 Liiraye: there are 1/6 sliders to indicate the change for the stream
19:34 Irreversible: okay, let's go on
19:34 Liiraye: you usually stream slower on that part
19:34 Liiraye: x)
19:34 Liiraye: alright
19:34 Irreversible: 02:35:481 (2) - o m g OMIT
19:34 Irreversible: lol no
19:34 Liiraye: Lel
19:34 Irreversible: 02:37:481 (6) - NC? the tone is quite new
19:34 Liiraye: i need to look the definition up
19:35 Irreversible: omit means
19:35 Irreversible: to skip
19:35 Irreversible: but idk what it means with that context
19:35 Irreversible: XD
19:35 Liiraye: o
19:35 Liiraye: me neither lmao
19:35 Liiraye: but yeah nice nc
19:36 Irreversible: 02:48:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - did you miss the hitsound again?
19:37 Irreversible: i would add some kind of hitsound according to the piano
19:37 Liiraye: true
19:37 Irreversible: 02:53:267 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - same here
19:37 Irreversible: hmm
19:37 Irreversible: if i was better at looking for custom ones
19:37 Irreversible: i could help you..
19:39 Liiraye: i fixed it all
19:39 Irreversible: okay
19:39 Irreversible: 02:57:530 (6,7) - click on those once
19:40 Irreversible: and click ctrl + G (only for the rhythm)
19:40 Irreversible: it quite often happens that people place things on red ticks
19:40 Irreversible: ending on white ones
19:40 Irreversible: but since white ones are mostly the strong ones, it should have the click effect
19:40 Irreversible: which you don't have, if you let a slider end there
19:40 Irreversible: in this case: the piano
19:42 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122074019:44 Irreversible: but you understand? :3
19:45 Irreversible: 02:59:109 (5,6) - i would ctrl + g this one too
19:45 Irreversible: but that's pretty optional, depends what you prefer
19:45 Liiraye: yeah i understand

19:46 Liiraye: mm yeah that one ill keep though

19:48 Irreversible: ok
19:48 Irreversible: xD
19:49 Irreversible: ok for the kiai
19:49 Irreversible: it plays pretty well
19:49 Irreversible: 03:07:003 (1) - NC and 03:07:793 (3) - NC?
19:50 Irreversible: 03:10:082 (8,9,10,11) - why not keeping the same DS with the stream before?
19:50 Irreversible: 03:09:688 (7) - NC
19:50 Irreversible: 03:11:109 (2) - and THIS can be really frustating, imagine you are in game, fc till now (wow not a really big deal for most people i guess)
19:51 Irreversible: and then you get confused and can't see this well and miss, or get a 50
19:51 Irreversible: > it's really hidden
19:52 Irreversible:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1220759 check this out, it's better to play
19:52 Irreversible: in my opinion
19:52 Liiraye: 03:10:082 (8,9,10,11) - same dt?
19:52 Liiraye: ds*
19:52 Liiraye: what do you mean
19:52 Irreversible: 03:05:740 (1,2,3,4) - as here
19:52 Irreversible: stream concsistency you know
19:52 Liiraye: mmm
19:53 Liiraye: one sec
19:53 Liiraye: fixed the ds
19:54 Irreversible: sure
19:54 Liiraye: 03:11:109 (2) -
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122077019:54 Liiraye: better?

19:55 Irreversible: can't really tell
19:55 Liiraye: oh didnt see your pic
19:55 Liiraye: sec
19:55 Irreversible: yeah it's a soltuon and follows the same flow
19:56 Liiraye: looks fine
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122077719:57 Liiraye: I don't think stacking combo 1 is good
19:57 Liiraye: though
19:57 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122078319:57 Irreversible: for somewhat reason it's not as hidden idk why tho XD
19:58 Irreversible: sure
19:58 Irreversible:

19:58 Irreversible: did you add the nc's mentioned before?
19:58 Liiraye: probably because the combo 2 changes the playfield
19:58 Liiraye: and if it's hidden its hard to see where to continue x)
19:58 Irreversible: 03:07:003 (1) - 03:07:793 (1) - 03:09:688 (7) -
19:58 Irreversible: yeah
19:58 Liiraye: yes i changed all of it
19:58 Irreversible:

19:58 Liiraye:

19:58 Liiraye: now i need something to eat xD
19:59 Liiraye: you can keep modding though
19:59 Liiraye: it wont take long
19:59 Irreversible: okay
19:59 Irreversible: r u back yet
19:59 Liiraye: xdDDDd
19:59 Liiraye: 5 min tops
19:59 Irreversible: 03:23:582 (9) - i kind of feel a finish
20:00 Irreversible: 03:37:793 (3) - nc, for the new part
20:00 Irreversible: 03:38:740 (6) - nc or emphasis
20:00 Irreversible: 03:43:793 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - you could add nc on the pairs but that might be overused xD
20:01 Irreversible: 03:59:267 (2,3,4,5,6) - kinda missing hitsounds again?
20:01 Irreversible: the way how the streams look is good! :3
20:02 Irreversible: 03:59:740 (6) - i suppose this 1/4 slider pattern should already start here, if you listen to the music D:
20:02 Irreversible: 04:04:951 (5,6,1,2) - hitsounds again
20:02 Irreversible: 04:08:424 (7) - NC piano
20:02 Irreversible: 04:13:477 (5) - NC drum pattern
20:03 Irreversible: 04:15:214 (1) - NC start of the stream (but this one is not so reasoned, so keep it if you want)
20:11 Liiraye: 03:59:740 (6) - fixed everything to here so far, I believe this is fine because it has a higher note than the sliders
20:13 Irreversible: 03:59:818 - listen with 25%, you can hear it tho
20:13 Irreversible: hmm
20:14 Liiraye: o right
20:14 Liiraye: but then I'd have to make a whole new pattern
20:14 Liiraye: hm
20:15 Liiraye: a cool 1/4 x 3 pattern
20:15 Irreversible: let's see if KINDADOESN'TKNOWANYTHINGABOUTTIMING Irreversible can help
20:15 Liiraye: OH HI IRREVERSIBLE
20:15 Liiraye: DIDNT QUITE SEE U THERE
20:15 Liiraye: ;D ;D
20:15 Liiraye: how lovely that you volunteer!
20:15 Irreversible: xDDD
20:16 Irreversible: let's see
20:16 Irreversible: so what about smth like..
20:16 Irreversible: 01:46:181 (4,5,6) - but less space
20:16 Irreversible: d
20:21 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122083220:21 Liiraye: not sure what to do with 9 though
20:21 Irreversible: XD
20:21 Irreversible: repeat 8
20:23 Irreversible: 04:04:003 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - stronger hitsounds requierd
20:23 Irreversible: 04:05:267 (1,2) - hitsounds missing too
20:23 Irreversible: 04:13:477 (5) - drum nc
20:24 Irreversible: oh i already said this didn't I
20:24 Irreversible: 04:17:897 (1,2,3) - :C so weak hitsounds .:.
20:24 Irreversible: 04:19:161 (4) - NC piano
20:24 Irreversible: 04:21:688 (1,2,3) - i kinda suggest to add stronger hitsounds again .. or make them loud, and outstnding
20:33 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122086220:33 Liiraye: what do you think
20:35 Irreversible: ce7
20:35 Irreversible: nice
20:35 Liiraye: 04:04:003 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
20:35 Liiraye: 60%?
20:37 Irreversible: sure
20:37 Irreversible: well with stronger i mean
20:37 Irreversible: not whitle or so
20:38 Irreversible: did you try hitnormal?
20:39 Liiraye: also removed this green line 04:00:371
20:39 Liiraye: to keep it 50% on the sliders
20:39 Liiraye: 04:01:792 added 40% green here
20:39 Liiraye: 04:01:792
20:39 Liiraye: or should I keep it 50?
20:41 Irreversible: sorry :O
20:41 Irreversible: will be here in a sec
20:41 Irreversible: what do you mean?
20:41 Irreversible: you can do how you want, just how it feels proper
20:41 Liiraye: just letting you know the changes x)
20:41 Liiraye: so you dont see any surprises
20:42 Irreversible: sure

20:44 Liiraye: k
20:44 Liiraye: changed all
20:44 Liiraye: so far
20:44 Irreversible: ops had dc
20:44 Liiraye: xD
20:45 Liiraye: well i changed the rest
20:45 Irreversible: alright
20:47 Irreversible: OMG
20:47 Irreversible: tell me you still have the chat
20:47 Irreversible: savelog XD
20:47 Irreversible: i closed it by accident
20:48 Liiraye: lol haha
20:48 Liiraye: yeah sure
20:48 Liiraye: are you done?
20:48 Irreversible: nah
20:48 Irreversible: xDD
20:48 Irreversible: ok let me check the rest now
20:48 Liiraye: saved to be sure lol
20:49 Irreversible: 04:29:267 (4) - nc piano
20:49 Irreversible: 04:31:793 (9) - nc piano
20:49 Liiraye: oke
20:49 Irreversible: 04:32:898 (7) - nc piano
20:49 Irreversible: 04:33:688 (9) - nc pattern?
20:50 Irreversible: 04:41:898 (5) - nc blue tick pattern
20:50 Irreversible: 04:53:898 (3) - nc pattern again
20:50 Irreversible: 04:50:898 (1) - haha well this one is really mean

but leae it
20:50 Liiraye: 04:33:688 (3) - kinda unnecesasry tho?
20:51 Liiraye: haha
20:51 Liiraye: that one <3
20:51 Irreversible: well i don't think so, because it would really lead in the jump
20:51 Irreversible: it's different from the slider before if you ask me
20:51 Liiraye: true
20:51 Irreversible: 04:55:635 (10) - as well here.. the tone is really high
20:52 Liiraye: ok
20:53 Irreversible: well now for these ones, do you think it's too much? because i would set one, BUT i think myself it's too much
20:53 Irreversible: 04:58:161 (12) -
20:53 Irreversible: 04:59:582 (5) -
20:53 Irreversible: 05:00:688 (9) -
20:54 Liiraye: 12 and 9
20:54 Irreversible: 05:07:161 (10) - but this one seems reasonable again
20:54 Liiraye: but 5?
20:54 Irreversible: 05:10:477 (3,4,5) - well this one.. it has a rather bad flow if you ask me
20:54 Liiraye: doesn't seem needde x)
20:54 Irreversible: leave 5 out
20:54 Irreversible: the fact that
20:54 Irreversible: 1 to 2 is straight
20:54 Irreversible: then it goes another direction
20:54 Irreversible: 3 to 4 is straight again
20:54 Irreversible: -> fine
20:54 Irreversible: but 4 to 5 straight again? that feels heell weird to play.
20:57 Liiraye: not sure I see the problem
20:57 Liiraye:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122092220:57 Liiraye: is this better?
20:57 Irreversible: mh no, let me explain
20:58 Irreversible:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/122092520:58 Irreversible: like this, you have this kind of zickzack
20:58 Irreversible: which provides a better ongoing flow there
20:58 Irreversible: well, maybe make an equal spacing between 3 4 5
21:02 Liiraye: i made a rectangle