I disagree with this statement. If RVS were to end "quickly" then the information you get is how it ended quickly.pieguy wrote:
disagree. I find that when people actively try to cut off RVS, the information gained becomes very limited and misleading. it seemed like you were trying to cut off RVS by just declaring "getting out of RVS quickly".
yeah, but just look at it. there was no information at all and farto was still saying RVS was over.NoHitter wrote:
I disagree with this statement. If RVS were to end "quickly" then the information you get is how it ended quickly.
Also what was the case behind rEdo? I didn't quite get it.
NoHitter wrote:
Also, FoS: Ono, Irre, CTs-Th
RVS has ended already, yet you guys still seemed to random vote someone.
Much time on MS would make you think like piepieguy1372 wrote:
ono isn't even this game 0.0yeah, but just look at it. there was no information at all and farto was still saying RVS was over.NoHitter wrote:
I disagree with this statement. If RVS were to end "quickly" then the information you get is how it ended quickly.
Also what was the case behind rEdo? I didn't quite get it.
This made my day.Tsukasa wrote:
town is fart
pieguy1372 wrote:
Tsukasa was a RV
rEdo was a semi-serious vote
what the fuck are you trying to accomplish with that question? I don't see how anything you could be thinking of is a scumtell. 0.0
sry for confusion, what I mean is, it's an RV as a vote that is part of RVS, and my reason for voting him was that he had a wagon on him. I was trying to get something to happen, but all that happened was farto came in and declared "RVS is over".Raging Bull wrote:
Wow so unlike you to get so mad. The purpose of that question was toreaction testsee why you voted for Tsukasa. It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.
DakeDekaane wrote:
Yay, a vote on me
I wasn't sheeping, but whatever, you should have a stronger reason.
DakeDekaane wrote:
Vote: Tsukasa
Lol yeah not sheepingDakeDekaane wrote:
^scum pls
Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy
We could basically spend all D1 in RVS without any sign of "ending naturally", better starting discussion as soon as possible, lefting very few spots for scum to play around, don't you think?
DakeDekaane wrote:
You never stack votes for lulz.
Glad I voted Tsukasa.
Unvote
Vote: rEdo
Discuss.
From meta tellsrEdo wrote:
Why not? Voting the same person for no apparent reason is fun, these votes will not matter anything in the next bunch of postsDakeDekaane wrote:
You never stack votes for lulz.
Glad I voted Tsukasa.
I kinda dislike pieguy's reaction to farto's vote swap, though. That was just an action performed in order to push the game forward, yet he tries to revert it to him, huh.
also:Why would you associate us at this point of the game?pieguy1372 wrote:
inb4 farto + rEdo bus
rEdo wrote:
Boo, I'm getting so much scumreads this early Q_Q
That's what I'm wondering about. he did the exact same thing as me, yet he said that I'm scum... should that mean that he's scum as well? Also, please respond to my question instead of that blunt accusation with no coverage. It's rather ignorant to call me out just because I can't follow/predict your process of thinking, hence my question >_>
Vote: pieguy
To sheeping the person he called scum with metaDakeDekaane wrote:
^scum pls
Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy
We could basically spend all D1 in RVS without any sign of "ending naturally", better starting discussion as soon as possible, lefting very few spots for scum to play around, don't you think?
pieguy1372 wrote:
sry for confusion, what I mean is, it's an RV as a vote that is part of RVS, and my reason for voting him was that he had a wagon on him. I was trying to get something to happen, but all that happened was farto came in and declared "RVS is over".Raging Bull wrote:
Wow so unlike you to get so mad. The purpose of that question was toreaction testsee why you voted for Tsukasa. It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.
how is it not obvious what the intent behind that vote was? Tsukasa hadn't even made a single post and he had 4 people voting him, a bunch of which (including me) jumped on there without saying anything and the other person even referenced vote stacking. as it is, this seems like a cheap way to throw blame on me. 0.0
Agreed. I've check the time for each vote to Tsukasa. Each of them have a big time gap, which enough for every player to read each player's vote.Raging Bull wrote:
How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt. fart never even said RVS is over, he said it is getting out of RVS. Information is helpful when it is good, but when it's just voting someone for some random ass reason because thats how games like to start, it is not good information. Seems like a cheap way to throw the blame on him.
rEdo saying stacking for lulz seems stupid but doesn't exactly seem scummy intent at all.
So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.DakeDekaane wrote:
dat ninja
Do something that's not scummyDakeDekaane wrote:
Tsukasa, if you read carefully the thread, there's a tiny post after the one with my voteSo I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.DakeDekaane wrote:
dat ninja
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fight me irlSephibro wrote:
farto keeps doing useless things as usual, RB keeps keeping his vote until someone is at L
The point is, nobody dare to RVS now. (Since farto announced that RVS was ended) Especially when 'somebody' keeps giving FoS to anybody who does the random vote.Sephibro wrote:
About your discussion around RVS: day1 is ALWAYS RVS, unless there is some role who can get confirmed, such as an Innocent Child. The information we get from d1 is the flip on a randomly lynched person and a VERY VERY volatile and unreliable wagon analisys
Possibly "***-rEdo" scum team A and "Dake-***" scum team B?DakeDekaane wrote:
So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
Lynching scum D1 isn't useless. Chances are scum wouldn't lynch off their teammate early on. More likely the partner 's vote will be with someone else/voting no one.Sephibro wrote:
About your discussion around RVS: day1 is ALWAYS RVS, unless there is some role who can get confirmed, such as an Innocent Child. The information we get from d1 is the flip on a randomly lynched person and a VERY VERY volatile and unreliable wagon analisys
Generally RVS is just a means to start discussion. When it becomes obvious that you have something else to talk about, RVS should stop.Cts-Th wrote:
The point is, nobody dare to RVS now. (Since farto announced that RVS was ended) Especially when 'somebody' keeps giving FoS to anybody who does the random vote.
No, it's not always RVS. Some first-days can last even for 40-50 pages, and such long discussion is definitely not RVS. I have played in some games on this forums that involved this situation and you could pretty much make up your correct reads until the end of the game during that time.NoHitter"
day1 is ALWAYS RVS
Also, Sephi and farto still fighting over things. Please don't bicker again like in Higurashi.[/quote]
Welp, I'm not the one that bringed the argument. Also I replied in a strictly humoristic tone.
Anyways, commenting on Sephibro's post.
[quote="Sephibro wrote:
Welp, I'm not the one that bringed the argument. Also I replied in a strictly humoristic tone.NoHitter wrote:
Also, Sephi and farto still fighting over things. Please don't bicker again like in Higurashi.
No, it's not always RVS. Some first-days can last even for 40-50 pages, and such long discussion is definitely not RVS. I have played in some games on this forums that involved this situation and you could pretty much make up your correct reads until the end of the game during that time.Sephibro wrote:
day1 is ALWAYS RVS
I actually hoped that the pieguy wagon started riding as a way to give me some more clear vibes about him. Pretty much curious why he voted Tsukasa as well, and his vote on me was taken as an invitation to try pushing him a little bit.fartownik wrote:
I don't get rEdo's vote on pieguy tho. No explanation whatsoever, I wish you posted a proper reason for doing that.
"looked like a favorable attempt"? what does that mean?Raging Bull wrote:
Everything I have suspicion on you, you always claim it as a cheap way to throw blame on you. If you do something suspicious to me, then you are suspicious. How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt.
that's the same fucking thingRaging Bull wrote:
fart never even said RVS is over, he said it is getting out of RVS.
EXACTLY WHY I SAID IT WAS BAD. THERE WAS NO INFORMATION THERE AND FARTO WAS SAYING RVS WAS OVER WHEN THERE WAS NO INFORMATION. WHAT THE FLYING FUCKRaging Bull wrote:
Information is helpful when it is good, but when it's just voting someone for some random ass reason because thats how games like to start, it is not good information. Seems like a cheap way to throw the blame on him.
where'd you get that idea from? my vote on you was because I think you're scum. this doesn't make any sense 0.0rEdo wrote:
Pretty much curious why he voted Tsukasa as well, and his vote on me was taken as an invitation to try pushing him a little bit.
I was the one who came up with the idea of all of us attacking the shit out of each other D1, mostly because of this game where NH and I were both scum and I almost survived o/ in hindsight that was a mistake but oh wellfartownik wrote:
though he should've probably changed his playstyle after the Higurashi game anyways.
Raging Bull wrote:
Wow so unlike you to get so mad. The purpose of that question was topieguy1372 wrote:
Tsukasa was a RV
rEdo was a semi-serious vote
what the fuck are you trying to accomplish with that question? I don't see how anything you could be thinking of is a scumtell. 0.0reaction testsee why you voted for Tsukasa. It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.
???Raging Bull wrote:
rEdo saying stacking for lulz seems stupid but doesn't exactly seem scummy intent at all.
Raging Bull wrote:
It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.
i did o/Raging Bull wrote:
How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt.
Teach me how to town pls.Tsukasa wrote:
Do something that's not scummy
Then I might change my read.
Plus
It would help us more if you do something town, anyways.
Suck on a straw :VSephibro wrote:
there isn't much content to talk about for now. farto keeps doing useless things as usual, RB keeps keeping his vote until someone is at L-1, and Tsukasa keeps making me rofl
IIRCDakeDekaane wrote:
Tsukasa, if you read carefully the thread, there's a tiny post after the one with my voteSo I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.DakeDekaane wrote:
dat ninja
Do you actually think that the 2 of them are scum?CTs-Th wrote:
The point is, nobody dare to RVS now. (Since farto announced that RVS was ended) Especially when 'somebody' keeps giving FoS to anybody who does the random vote.Sephibro wrote:
About your discussion around RVS: day1 is ALWAYS RVS, unless there is some role who can get confirmed, such as an Innocent Child. The information we get from d1 is the flip on a randomly lynched person and a VERY VERY volatile and unreliable wagon analisys
And this one.Possibly "***-rEdo" scum team A and "Dake-***" scum team B?DakeDekaane wrote:
So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
If not, prove it.
Lesson 1DakeDekaane wrote:
Teach me how to town pls.Tsukasa wrote:
Do something that's not scummy
Then I might change my read.
Plus
It would help us more if you do something town, anyways.
oh btw this is pointlessTsukasa wrote:
Do something that's not scummy
Then I might change my read.
Plus
It would help us more if you do something town, anyways.
No, but I just stated a possible choice. If they really are scum, but they attack each other. Then they're in a difference team.Tsukasa wrote:
Do you actually think that the 2 of them are scum?CTs-Th wrote:
Possibly "***-rEdo" scum team A and "Dake-***" scum team B?
If not, prove it.
fartownik wrote:
fight me irlSephibro wrote:
farto keeps doing useless things as usual, RB keeps keeping his vote until someone is at L
lol'dSakura wrote:
Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372
"and I'm not scum."DakeDekaane wrote:
Am I that scummy? I don't feel like it, care to elaborate more?
Your votes on me makes no sense. I'm not shipping rEdo, I have him as my second scum suspect, and I'm not scum.
As I said before.DakeDekaane wrote:
My wagon is filling up with opportunistic people, keep it up~
Everyone voting me since now is likely scum.
I've my reason, and I'm surely that Cookie have his.CTs-Th wrote:
Also, every vote mostly have a reason to. (Except random non-stack vote.)
Why did you 3 vote Tsukasa when Cookie already vote him/her? (Even you know it's a bandwagon)
Whoa. That's not things work here.Cookie wrote:
And why am i scum for voting you?
Proof me different and ill change my vote
What? I just thought that you'll explain your idea why you vote Dake.Cookie wrote:
And why am i scum for voting you?
Proof me different and ill change my vote
The cheapest excuse ever.Cookie wrote:
Unvote
I know enough now, i just wanted to check some reactions on my vote
Are you seriously asking this or just do it to look like an uninformed Townie?Irreversible wrote:
sorry that i'm late.. again
so now as I can see there are two guys voted the most, dake and pieguy, and.. there are 2 scumteams right? do we know how many members each one have?
Scum also scumhunt in this game as there are 2 mafia factions, one scumhunts another.Irreversible wrote:
sephibro, i don't agree that scum wants to scumhunt. they basically want to confuse town player, that they destroy each other.
cookie, what made you doing that so called 'mistake' ? I didn't get that at all to be honest. Also, you made some votes and already say you know enough. well.. if you knew enough, you would vote someone, what keeps you off doing that?
Wasn't sheeping. Just because we share thoughts about one, and I was later to respond to his post, it doesn't mean that I'm sheeping, dog :'(fartownik wrote:
But I didn't allow you to sheep me, peasant.
Cookie wrote:
Unvote
Vote:DakeDekaane
I'll explain it later after im back from work
Mind to elaborate? I do keep in mind that people started to push you before you did, but you should've done that anyway.Cookie wrote:
I know enough now, i just wanted to check some reactions on my vote
Please, tell me. If you aren't scum, is there a point to speculate the set-up like that? The only difference is that scum are ALSO hunting scum, so it's quite easier for them to blend with Townies - however they're still scum themselves. Right now you look like you're trying to deliver content in order to cover yourself in my eyes ;-;Cookie wrote:
Like you just said i forgot there are 2 teams, so it might be 1 scum in team red, who has to fight for himself and 2 in team blue which can scumhunt for the other team well so far i could have seen out of other games here/ on the IRC so yea
By the way, this is the point that screams Dake-scum. The idea of the first line being a ninja'd point means nothing; the point is exactly the same.DakeDekaane wrote:
^scum pls
Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy
This guy can go in the scumpile too.fartownik wrote:
Welp, Cookie seems very scummy right now.
Unvote
Vote: Cookie
Irreversible wrote:
there are 2 scumteams right? do we know how many members each one have?
the clear things about this setup is that there are 2 scumteams, with 2 scum eachCookie wrote:
Like you just said i forgot there are 2 teams, so it might be 1 scum in team red, who has to fight for himself and 2 in team blue which can scumhunt for the other team well so far i could have seen out of other games here/ on the IRC so yea
fartownik wrote:
Are you seriously asking this or just do it to look like an uninformed Townie?Irreversible wrote:
sorry that i'm late.. again
so now as I can see there are two guys voted the most, dake and pieguy, and.. there are 2 scumteams right? do we know how many members each one have?
I would expect the same reaction to 2 post with the same content - here you have opposite onesfartownik wrote:
The second-to-last post of Cookie is strongly Town imo.Cookie wrote:
Like you just said i forgot there are 2 teams, so it might be 1 scum in team red, who has to fight for himself and 2 in team blue which can scumhunt for the other team well so far i could have seen out of other games here/ on the IRC so yea
that's not setup speculation, we already know that information about the setup - are you all acting dumb to make us think that you belong to the uninformed majority?rEdo wrote:
Please, tell me. If you aren't scum, is there a point to speculate the set-up like that?
I do not even...CTs-Th wrote:
Vote : DakeDekaane for what he did make me sense "scumness" from him.
Cookie wrote:
Unvote
Vote:DakeDekaane
I'll explain it later after im back from work
Cookie wrote:
Unvote
I know enough now, i just wanted to check some reactions on my vote
Seems clear to me imo.pieguy1372 wrote:
Raging Bull wrote:
It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.i did o/Raging Bull wrote:
How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt.
now that you mention that, this kind of incoherence in thoughts is really interesting
Cookie wrote:
Unvote
Vote:DakeDekaane
I'll explain it later after im back from work
I thought it was funny for him to vote for someone and to tell us he will explain it, yet there was never any explanation given, especially for his weird reason to unvote. I don't really expect him to get much information with only 3 people before changing his mind.Cookie wrote:
And why am i scum for voting you?
Proof me different and ill change my vote
Also that joke is old, but some reason they still call me that.NoHitter wrote:
lol'dSakura wrote:
Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372
Oh yeah, btw guys does anyone of you recognize this: "developed..."
pieguy1372 wrote:
"looked like a favorable attempt"? what does that mean?Raging Bull wrote:
Everything I have suspicion on you, you always claim it as a cheap way to throw blame on you. If you do something suspicious to me, then you are suspicious. How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt.that's the same fucking thingRaging Bull wrote:
fart never even said RVS is over, he said it is getting out of RVS.EXACTLY WHY I SAID IT WAS BAD. THERE WAS NO INFORMATION THERE AND FARTO WAS SAYING RVS WAS OVER WHEN THERE WAS NO INFORMATION. WHAT THE FLYING FUCKRaging Bull wrote:
Information is helpful when it is good, but when it's just voting someone for some random ass reason because thats how games like to start, it is not good information. Seems like a cheap way to throw the blame on him.
vote: Raging Bully
screw this. your jump on me is opportunistic as fuck and your reasons for voting me are incorrect
are you fucking kidding me? this doesn't make any sense. why the fuck would I deliberately try to get someone lynched in RVS with 7 votes needed to lynch as scum? that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I could see that tactic in like a 9 man game with only 5 votes and even that's kind of insane, but this is really fucking stupid.Raging Bull wrote:
Favorable attempt means by to get him lynched since you can blend in that unusual bandwagon? Why do I spell it out for you.
EXCEPT IT WASN'T A REASONABLE ATTEMPT AT ENDING RVS EXPLICITLY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO INFORMATION OH MY GODRaging Bull wrote:
No it's not. Fart made a reasonable attempt to try to get out of RVS, you took it as "omg fart ended RVS, denied information, scum!"
except that's the most fucking BS reason I've ever seen ever. that is not in any way opportunistic and the fact that you're pushing it as opportunistic is scummy as fuck. it was a bandwagon yes, but it was in RVS and there was no risk of Tsukass actually getting lynched. it was intended explicitly to get the game flowing and make new information appear. there is nothing fucking opportunistic there. if anything, you pushing this angle on me is opportunistic as fuck and my RVS vote is fine.Raging Bull wrote:
Lol what? The information I got was you being opportunistic on Tsukasa bandwagon. I'm sorry that you gained nothing, but I gained something.
So why are you defending Cookie? Are you townreading him that much?Tsukasa wrote:
Plus the term "Scardy cat" only refers to noob players.
IIRC Cookie told me he never forum mafia's but only IRC mafias. And both have different stuff, based on my observation
what's this?Raging Bull wrote:
I'm done with you.
Apparently... yes.NoHitter wrote:
So why are you defending Cookie? Are you townreading him that much?Tsukasa wrote:
Plus the term "Scardy cat" only refers to noob players.
IIRC Cookie told me he never forum mafia's but only IRC mafias. And both have different stuff, based on my observation
