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Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull

pieguy1372 wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Wow so unlike you to get so mad. The purpose of that question was toreaction test see why you voted for Tsukasa. It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.
sry for confusion, what I mean is, it's an RV as a vote that is part of RVS, and my reason for voting him was that he had a wagon on him. I was trying to get something to happen, but all that happened was farto came in and declared "RVS is over".

how is it not obvious what the intent behind that vote was? Tsukasa hadn't even made a single post and he had 4 people voting him, a bunch of which (including me) jumped on there without saying anything and the other person even referenced vote stacking. as it is, this seems like a cheap way to throw blame on me. 0.0

Everything I have suspicion on you, you always claim it as a cheap way to throw blame on you. If you do something suspicious to me, then you are suspicious. How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt. fart never even said RVS is over, he said it is getting out of RVS. Information is helpful when it is good, but when it's just voting someone for some random ass reason because thats how games like to start, it is not good information. Seems like a cheap way to throw the blame on him.

rEdo saying stacking for lulz seems stupid but doesn't exactly seem scummy intent at all.

Vote:pieguy
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo

Raging Bull wrote:

How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt. fart never even said RVS is over, he said it is getting out of RVS. Information is helpful when it is good, but when it's just voting someone for some random ass reason because thats how games like to start, it is not good information. Seems like a cheap way to throw the blame on him.

rEdo saying stacking for lulz seems stupid but doesn't exactly seem scummy intent at all.
Agreed. I've check the time for each vote to Tsukasa. Each of them have a big time gap, which enough for every player to read each player's vote.
Given 00:00 to Cookie's vote.
00:30 -> Dake's vote.
00:50 -> rEdo's vote.
02:20 (VERY huge gap.) -> pieguy's vote.

From these times. 4 people vote Tsukasa 'by accident' is more likely invalid and seems impossible. 'An intent' to bandwagon on Tsukasa is more likely valid and possible.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
Also, every vote mostly have a reason to. (Except random non-stack vote.)

Why did you 3 vote Tsukasa when Cookie already vote him/her? (Even you know it's a bandwagon)
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,317 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
NoHitter, it's called I was sleeping..
Unvote

fartownik, as I've seen in other games, there are often thoughts taken from the RVS. Your post kinda wanna lets me think that you wanna avoid that..
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter
Since when was stacking votes in RVS bad again? If anything, the information from the pressure given to the one who got voted is beneficial.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
Nope, I didn't say it's bad. But stacking more than 2 votes is looks like they're intent to bandwagon someone. (Or it's just for fun case, I don't know. But stacking vote make RVS ended in this game, that's why we're discussing this.)

This is possibly my last post tonight. I'm off to bed now, school tomorrow. : P
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Topic Starter
Sakura
CalignoBot replaces Louis13 who did not pick his role PM, effective immediately.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Hi.

I have to leave for work in a half hour and I'm working on other things for the moment, so it will most likely be tonight that I get an opportunity to make a post.

Also note that this week is hell week at work today, so don't expect too much consistent posting.
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Tsukasa, if you read carefully the thread, there's a tiny post after the one with my vote

DakeDekaane wrote:

dat ninja
So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.04

pieguy1372 (3): rEdo, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull
rEdo (2) - fartownik, pieguy1372
Tsukasa (1) - Cookie
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
DakeDekaane (1): Tsukasa

Not Voting - CalignoBot, NoHitter, CTs-Th, Irreversible

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Sephibro
512 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro
sorry for my inactivity so far, finally higurashi mafia is over :)
I'll read the thread tomorrow
Tsukasa
471 posts
Joined June 2011
Tsukasa

DakeDekaane wrote:

Tsukasa, if you read carefully the thread, there's a tiny post after the one with my vote

DakeDekaane wrote:

dat ninja
So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
Do something that's not scummy

Then I might change my read.

Plus

It would help us more if you do something town, anyways.
Sephibro
512 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro
there isn't much content to talk about for now. farto keeps doing useless things as usual, RB keeps keeping his vote until someone is at L-1, and Tsukasa keeps making me rofl

About your discussion around RVS: day1 is ALWAYS RVS, unless there is some role who can get confirmed, such as an Innocent Child. The information we get from d1 is the flip on a randomly lynched person and a VERY VERY volatile and unreliable wagon analisys


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Mod: Sakura

1. Sephibro
2. CTs-Th
3. rEdo
4. Tsukasa
5. fartownik
6. DakeDekaane
7. CalignoBot (Louis13) (V/LA until November 30th)
8. Irreversible
9. NoHitter
10. Cookie
11. pieguy1372
12. Raging Bull


Mod: [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=289422&t=165449][b]Sakura[/b][/url]

1. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=2061922&t=165449][b]Sephibro[/b][/url]
2. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=3047538&t=165449][b]CTs-Th[/b][/url]
3. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=49329&t=165449][b]rEdo[/b][/url]
4. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=926675&t=165449][b]Tsukasa[/b][/url]
5. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=56917&t=165449][b]fartownik[/b][/url]
6. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=1425253&t=165449][b]DakeDekaane[/b][/url]
7. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=668833&t=165449][b]CalignoBot[/b][/url] ([url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=3354548&t=165449][b]Louis13[/b][/url]) (V/LA until November 30th)
8. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=1287964&t=165449][b]Irreversible[/b][/url]
9. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=124455&t=165449][b]NoHitter[/b][/url]
10. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=617106&t=165449][b]Cookie[/b][/url]
11. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=107485&t=165449][b]pieguy1372[/b][/url]
12. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=398760&t=165449][b]Raging Bull[/b][/url]

Added the ISOs to the main post
~Sakura
Sephibro
512 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro
tell me if there is any error in the ISOs
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

farto keeps doing useless things as usual, RB keeps keeping his vote until someone is at L
fight me irl
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo

Sephibro wrote:

About your discussion around RVS: day1 is ALWAYS RVS, unless there is some role who can get confirmed, such as an Innocent Child. The information we get from d1 is the flip on a randomly lynched person and a VERY VERY volatile and unreliable wagon analisys
The point is, nobody dare to RVS now. (Since farto announced that RVS was ended) Especially when 'somebody' keeps giving FoS to anybody who does the random vote.

And this one.

DakeDekaane wrote:

So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
Possibly "***-rEdo" scum team A and "Dake-***" scum team B?
If not, prove it.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
^^^ Possibly my last post tonight. (In case of you ask me some question and I didn't answer)

Off to bed now. See ya tomorrow.
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter

Sephibro wrote:

About your discussion around RVS: day1 is ALWAYS RVS, unless there is some role who can get confirmed, such as an Innocent Child. The information we get from d1 is the flip on a randomly lynched person and a VERY VERY volatile and unreliable wagon analisys
Lynching scum D1 isn't useless. Chances are scum wouldn't lynch off their teammate early on. More likely the partner 's vote will be with someone else/voting no one.

Cts-Th wrote:

The point is, nobody dare to RVS now. (Since farto announced that RVS was ended) Especially when 'somebody' keeps giving FoS to anybody who does the random vote.
Generally RVS is just a means to start discussion. When it becomes obvious that you have something else to talk about, RVS should stop.

Also, Sephi and farto still fighting over things. Please don't bicker again like in Higurashi.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

NoHitter"
Also, Sephi and farto still fighting over things. Please don't bicker again like in Higurashi.[/quote]
Welp, I'm not the one that bringed the argument. Also I replied in a strictly humoristic tone.

Anyways, commenting on Sephibro's post.

[quote="Sephibro wrote:

day1 is ALWAYS RVS
No, it's not always RVS. Some first-days can last even for 40-50 pages, and such long discussion is definitely not RVS. I have played in some games on this forums that involved this situation and you could pretty much make up your correct reads until the end of the game during that time.

Some things already caught my attention here. pieguy's play looks Town at the first glance, I like the way he pushes his potential scum candidates and doesn't let go without proper explanations. Plus the meta doesn't go for scum yet, though he should've probably changed his playstyle after the Higurashi game anyways.

Another thing is Dake whiteknighting me. I understood pieguy's vote on me as a misinterpretation from the beginning, yet you did not. Same goes for RB - it was obvious pieguy's vote for rEdo was for testing purposes only - 'maybe he will do something that catches my eye?', 'maybe not?', 'why not to try?'.

I don't get rEdo's vote on pieguy tho. No explanation whatsoever, I wish you posted a proper reason for doing that.

tl;dr the whole pieguy wagon stinks.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
I fucked up that quote really bad. Reposting:

NoHitter wrote:

Also, Sephi and farto still fighting over things. Please don't bicker again like in Higurashi.
Welp, I'm not the one that bringed the argument. Also I replied in a strictly humoristic tone.

Anyways, commenting on Sephibro's post.

Sephibro wrote:

day1 is ALWAYS RVS
No, it's not always RVS. Some first-days can last even for 40-50 pages, and such long discussion is definitely not RVS. I have played in some games on this forums that involved this situation and you could pretty much make up your correct reads until the end of the game during that time.

Some things already caught my attention here. pieguy's play looks Town at the first glance, I like the way he pushes his potential scum candidates and doesn't let go without proper explanations. Plus the meta doesn't go for scum yet, though he should've probably changed his playstyle after the Higurashi game anyways.

Another thing is Dake whiteknighting me. I understood pieguy's vote on me as a misinterpretation from the beginning, yet you did not. Same goes for RB - it was obvious pieguy's vote for rEdo was for testing purposes only - 'maybe he will do something that catches my eye?', 'maybe not?', 'why not to try?'.

I don't get rEdo's vote on pieguy tho. No explanation whatsoever, I wish you posted a proper reason for doing that.

tl;dr the whole pieguy wagon stinks.
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo

fartownik wrote:

I don't get rEdo's vote on pieguy tho. No explanation whatsoever, I wish you posted a proper reason for doing that.
I actually hoped that the pieguy wagon started riding as a way to give me some more clear vibes about him. Pretty much curious why he voted Tsukasa as well, and his vote on me was taken as an invitation to try pushing him a little bit.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Well, it looked like an OMGUS to me to be honest.
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo
Yeah, that one discredit post he had written was a rather unexpected and exaggerated one, hence my little offence here. I didn't think he actually had to respond to that little speculation of mine. Also I wondered why would he associate us, and I'm pretty straight-forward in asking such questions, so there you had it. I guess he thought that I'm this stupid that I would ask something like this as scum XD combined with some [his] reaction testing, or it was a way to defend himself from the speculation before and to try reverting some more attention towards me.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

Everything I have suspicion on you, you always claim it as a cheap way to throw blame on you. If you do something suspicious to me, then you are suspicious. How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt.
"looked like a favorable attempt"? what does that mean?

Raging Bull wrote:

fart never even said RVS is over, he said it is getting out of RVS.
that's the same fucking thing

Raging Bull wrote:

Information is helpful when it is good, but when it's just voting someone for some random ass reason because thats how games like to start, it is not good information. Seems like a cheap way to throw the blame on him.
EXACTLY WHY I SAID IT WAS BAD. THERE WAS NO INFORMATION THERE AND FARTO WAS SAYING RVS WAS OVER WHEN THERE WAS NO INFORMATION. WHAT THE FLYING FUCK

vote: Raging Bully
screw this. your jump on me is opportunistic as fuck and your reasons for voting me are incorrect
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

rEdo wrote:

Pretty much curious why he voted Tsukasa as well, and his vote on me was taken as an invitation to try pushing him a little bit.
where'd you get that idea from? my vote on you was because I think you're scum. this doesn't make any sense 0.0
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
and I already explained why I voted Tsukass. read the thread plz
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Vote: DakeDekaane

End of page six. Had to stop to do this because that post was THAT scummy.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
town: NoHItter, possibly CTs-Th
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

fartownik wrote:

though he should've probably changed his playstyle after the Higurashi game anyways.
I was the one who came up with the idea of all of us attacking the shit out of each other D1, mostly because of this game where NH and I were both scum and I almost survived o/ in hindsight that was a mistake but oh well
wanna swing a RB wagon?
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
I'm getting really bad scumvibes off the general notion that stacking RVS votes on Tsukasa is scummy.

It's not, and trying to make it scummy is a huge stretch in of itself.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Topic Starter
Sakura
The rustling of the leaves can be heard within the silence of the town center.

Vote Count 1.05

pieguy1372 (3): rEdo, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull
DakeDekaane (2): Tsukasa, CalignoBot
rEdo (1) - fartownik
Tsukasa (1) - Cookie
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372

Not Voting - NoHitter, CTs-Th, Irreversible

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any mistakes
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
@Caligno: what are your thoughts on RB and Tsukass?
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
I'm not seeing how either of them are scummier than Dake tbh.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
so do you think both are scummy?
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Not really.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
I'm pretty sure RB was pushing suspicion on me for wagoning in RVS. if you're getting scumvibes from that, why that didn't ping for you? 0.0
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki

Raging Bull wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

Tsukasa was a RV

rEdo was a semi-serious vote

what the fuck are you trying to accomplish with that question? I don't see how anything you could be thinking of is a scumtell. 0.0
Wow so unlike you to get so mad. The purpose of that question was toreaction test see why you voted for Tsukasa. It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.

Raging Bull wrote:

rEdo saying stacking for lulz seems stupid but doesn't exactly seem scummy intent at all.
???

I didn't get that impression.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.

Raging Bull wrote:

How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt.
i did o/

now that you mention that, this kind of incoherence in thoughts is really interesting
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane

Tsukasa wrote:

Do something that's not scummy

Then I might change my read.

Plus

It would help us more if you do something town, anyways.
Teach me how to town pls.
Tsukasa
471 posts
Joined June 2011
Tsukasa

Sephibro wrote:

there isn't much content to talk about for now. farto keeps doing useless things as usual, RB keeps keeping his vote until someone is at L-1, and Tsukasa keeps making me rofl
Suck on a straw :V

DakeDekaane wrote:

Tsukasa, if you read carefully the thread, there's a tiny post after the one with my vote

DakeDekaane wrote:

dat ninja
So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
IIRC

rEdo was going after pie that time (I dunno I forgot who)
But it's seems that you voting who you want was based on what rEdo is saying. Ergo, sheeping

CTs-Th wrote:

Sephibro wrote:

About your discussion around RVS: day1 is ALWAYS RVS, unless there is some role who can get confirmed, such as an Innocent Child. The information we get from d1 is the flip on a randomly lynched person and a VERY VERY volatile and unreliable wagon analisys
The point is, nobody dare to RVS now. (Since farto announced that RVS was ended) Especially when 'somebody' keeps giving FoS to anybody who does the random vote.

And this one.

DakeDekaane wrote:

So I wasn't sheeping rEdo, this meaning your "Dake-rEdo scum buddies 2013" is invalid.
Possibly "***-rEdo" scum team A and "Dake-***" scum team B?
If not, prove it.
Do you actually think that the 2 of them are scum?

DakeDekaane wrote:

Tsukasa wrote:

Do something that's not scummy

Then I might change my read.

Plus

It would help us more if you do something town, anyways.
Teach me how to town pls.
Lesson 1
Don't do this
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.06

pieguy1372 (3): rEdo, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull
DakeDekaane (2): Tsukasa, CalignoBot
rEdo (1) - fartownik
Tsukasa (1) - Cookie
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372

Not Voting - NoHitter, CTs-Th, Irreversible

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes
Sephibro
512 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro

Tsukasa wrote:

Do something that's not scummy

Then I might change my read.

Plus

It would help us more if you do something town, anyways.
oh btw this is pointless
what's town's interest? scumhunting
what's scum's interest? scumhunting
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo

Tsukasa wrote:

CTs-Th wrote:

Possibly "***-rEdo" scum team A and "Dake-***" scum team B?
If not, prove it.
Do you actually think that the 2 of them are scum?
No, but I just stated a possible choice. If they really are scum, but they attack each other. Then they're in a difference team.
Low chance, I think.

Vote : DakeDekaane for what he did make me sense "scumness" from him.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull

fartownik wrote:

Sephibro wrote:

farto keeps doing useless things as usual, RB keeps keeping his vote until someone is at L
fight me irl


Also i did vote.
Also prod dodge since i will be busy tonight
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Am I that scummy? I don't feel like it, care to elaborate more?

Your votes on me makes no sense. I'm not shipping rEdo, I have him as my second scum suspect, and I'm not scum.
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
EBWOP: shipping -> sheeping
derp
Uni
osu! Alumni
250 posts
Joined December 2010
Uni
Unvote
Vote:DakeDekaane

I'll explain it later after im back from work
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372
lol'd

Oh yeah, btw guys does anyone of you recognize this: "developed..."
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
My wagon is filling up with opportunistic people, keep it up~

Everyone voting me since now is likely scum.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
I'm writing this one about hours ago but didn't post it yet. XD

DakeDekaane wrote:

Am I that scummy? I don't feel like it, care to elaborate more?

Your votes on me makes no sense. I'm not shipping rEdo, I have him as my second scum suspect, and I'm not scum.
"and I'm not scum."

Why should I trust you?

You tried to get rid of attention to yourself by say something town or something that you don't have to included in that topic. (In order to lurking around) Plus, you are the first person who stack vote on Tsukasa. If you didn't stack your vote then it'll be easier to consider.

I'm a first-time player through. My opinion mightn't accurate.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo

DakeDekaane wrote:

My wagon is filling up with opportunistic people, keep it up~

Everyone voting me since now is likely scum.
As I said before.

CTs-Th wrote:

Also, every vote mostly have a reason to. (Except random non-stack vote.)

Why did you 3 vote Tsukasa when Cookie already vote him/her? (Even you know it's a bandwagon)
I've my reason, and I'm surely that Cookie have his.

Uh, this one. Nobody answer me yet.
Uni
osu! Alumni
250 posts
Joined December 2010
Uni
And why am i scum for voting you?

Proof me different and ill change my vote
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter

Cookie wrote:

And why am i scum for voting you?

Proof me different and ill change my vote
Whoa. That's not things work here.
Vote: Cookie

So you vote him then want him to prove that voting him is scummy for you to unvote? That sounds wrong on many levels.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo

Cookie wrote:

And why am i scum for voting you?

Proof me different and ill change my vote
What? I just thought that you'll explain your idea why you vote Dake.
But this one, it's... so wrong.
It's a kind of deal, isn't it?

@Dake, let me see what'll going on tomorrow, maybe I'm just mistaken you.

Something isn't right.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.07

[L-3] DakeDekaane (4): Tsukasa, CalignoBot, CTs-Th, Cookie
pieguy1372 (3): rEdo, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull
rEdo (1) - fartownik
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372
Cookie (1) - NoHitter

Not Voting - Irreversible

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Uni
osu! Alumni
250 posts
Joined December 2010
Uni
Unvote

I know enough now, i just wanted to check some reactions on my vote
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Welp, Cookie seems very scummy right now.

Unvote
Vote: Cookie
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo

Cookie wrote:

Unvote

I know enough now, i just wanted to check some reactions on my vote
The cheapest excuse ever.

Unvote
Vote: Cookie
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
But I didn't allow you to sheep me, peasant.
Uni
osu! Alumni
250 posts
Joined December 2010
Uni
Welp, i look scummy indeed, i didnt had this in mind and realized i made a mistake by voting on DD
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Unvote
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,317 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
sorry that i'm late.. again
so now as I can see there are two guys voted the most, dake and pieguy, and.. there are 2 scumteams right? do we know how many members each one have?

sephibro, i don't agree that scum wants to scumhunt. they basically want to confuse town player, that they destroy each other.
cookie, what made you doing that so called 'mistake' ? I didn't get that at all to be honest. Also, you made some votes and already say you know enough. well.. if you knew enough, you would vote someone, what keeps you off doing that?
Uni
osu! Alumni
250 posts
Joined December 2010
Uni
Like you just said i forgot there are 2 teams, so it might be 1 scum in team red, who has to fight for himself and 2 in team blue which can scumhunt for the other team well so far i could have seen out of other games here/ on the IRC so yea
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

Irreversible wrote:

sorry that i'm late.. again
so now as I can see there are two guys voted the most, dake and pieguy, and.. there are 2 scumteams right? do we know how many members each one have?
Are you seriously asking this or just do it to look like an uninformed Townie?

Irreversible wrote:

sephibro, i don't agree that scum wants to scumhunt. they basically want to confuse town player, that they destroy each other.
cookie, what made you doing that so called 'mistake' ? I didn't get that at all to be honest. Also, you made some votes and already say you know enough. well.. if you knew enough, you would vote someone, what keeps you off doing that?
Scum also scumhunt in this game as there are 2 mafia factions, one scumhunts another.

Irre, you're irregularly silly for your Townplay.
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo

fartownik wrote:

But I didn't allow you to sheep me, peasant.
Wasn't sheeping. Just because we share thoughts about one, and I was later to respond to his post, it doesn't mean that I'm sheeping, dog :'(

____________________


Cookie wrote:

Unvote
Vote:DakeDekaane

I'll explain it later after im back from work

Cookie wrote:

I know enough now, i just wanted to check some reactions on my vote
Mind to elaborate? I do keep in mind that people started to push you before you did, but you should've done that anyway.

Cookie wrote:

Like you just said i forgot there are 2 teams, so it might be 1 scum in team red, who has to fight for himself and 2 in team blue which can scumhunt for the other team well so far i could have seen out of other games here/ on the IRC so yea
Please, tell me. If you aren't scum, is there a point to speculate the set-up like that? The only difference is that scum are ALSO hunting scum, so it's quite easier for them to blend with Townies - however they're still scum themselves. Right now you look like you're trying to deliver content in order to cover yourself in my eyes ;-;
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
The second-to-last post of Cookie is strongly Town imo. A newbie scum would, in my opinion, keep negating the fact that he made a mistake and continue going on with the argument. A newbie scum wouldn't say he did something scummy.

I don't really get the point of the setup speculation as well. It's pointless and you're not bringing anything helpful with it, if that was your intention in the first place, Cookie.
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter
RE: Cookie

That unvote with his "reaction fishing" excuse looked very bad. He's doubling back on what he said earlier.
A) He voted DD and said he would give his reason "later"
B) Instead of giving his reason why, he told DD that DD needed to prove voting DD was scummy for him to unvote.
C) Upon getting only THREE reactions, and getting voted ONCE, he unvoted.
D) He claimed it was "reaction fishing" but what reaction is there to fish? Only three people posted after him before he unvoted. Seems more like an excuse.
E) His "Welp, i look scummy indeed, i didnt had this in mind and realized i made a mistake by voting on DD" seems more like damage control than a sincere admission of guilt.

@farto
He's not newbie. He said he played on IRC
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki

DakeDekaane wrote:

^scum pls

Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy
By the way, this is the point that screams Dake-scum. The idea of the first line being a ninja'd point means nothing; the point is exactly the same.

Also, look at his ISO, specifically contrasting this post and everything before it to everything after it. See anything interesting?
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki

fartownik wrote:

Welp, Cookie seems very scummy right now.

Unvote
Vote: Cookie
This guy can go in the scumpile too.
Sephibro
512 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro
I still have no good reads for the moment, but there's one thing that caught my attention

Irreversible wrote:

there are 2 scumteams right? do we know how many members each one have?

Cookie wrote:

Like you just said i forgot there are 2 teams, so it might be 1 scum in team red, who has to fight for himself and 2 in team blue which can scumhunt for the other team well so far i could have seen out of other games here/ on the IRC so yea
the clear things about this setup is that there are 2 scumteams, with 2 scum each

Hi, You are an Ice Mafia Goon.

Your partner is Playername, and you may communicate with your partner on QT.

You and your partner have a factional Night kill, you may use this during the night and only 1 of you may use it.

Hidden Ability: You have a Hidden ability that does X and is N-Shot

You may use your hidden ability and your Night kill on the same night.

You Win when you control half the votes and the Fire Mafia Team is dead, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Cookie's post looks fake, also all his previous 4-5 posts smell scummy - i totally agree with last NoHitter's post

on Irre's post, I had the same reaction fartownik had: "Are you seriously asking this or just do it to look like an uninformed Townie?"

and farto, there's something that stinks about you, too:

fartownik wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

sorry that i'm late.. again
so now as I can see there are two guys voted the most, dake and pieguy, and.. there are 2 scumteams right? do we know how many members each one have?
Are you seriously asking this or just do it to look like an uninformed Townie?

fartownik wrote:

Cookie wrote:

Like you just said i forgot there are 2 teams, so it might be 1 scum in team red, who has to fight for himself and 2 in team blue which can scumhunt for the other team well so far i could have seen out of other games here/ on the IRC so yea
The second-to-last post of Cookie is strongly Town imo.
I would expect the same reaction to 2 post with the same content - here you have opposite ones
A farto + Cookie scumteam would make sense

and rEdo:

rEdo wrote:

Please, tell me. If you aren't scum, is there a point to speculate the set-up like that?
that's not setup speculation, we already know that information about the setup - are you all acting dumb to make us think that you belong to the uninformed majority?


tl;dr: The 4 suspects i have atm are Cookie, Irreversible, fartownik and rEdo
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
speaking of fartownik I have a meta tell on him and I haven't seen town-him here yet
but the game just started so
Tsukasa
471 posts
Joined June 2011
Tsukasa

CTs-Th wrote:

Vote : DakeDekaane for what he did make me sense "scumness" from him.
I do not even...

Cookie wrote:

Unvote
Vote:DakeDekaane

I'll explain it later after im back from work

Cookie wrote:

Unvote

I know enough now, i just wanted to check some reactions on my vote

Noob sheeper and scardy cat. IMO Town.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull

pieguy1372 wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

It's hard to even say it is for RV when a shit ton of everyone voted for Tsukasa.

Raging Bull wrote:

How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt.
i did o/

now that you mention that, this kind of incoherence in thoughts is really interesting
Seems clear to me imo.


Cookie wrote:

Unvote
Vote:DakeDekaane

I'll explain it later after im back from work

Cookie wrote:

And why am i scum for voting you?

Proof me different and ill change my vote
I thought it was funny for him to vote for someone and to tell us he will explain it, yet there was never any explanation given, especially for his weird reason to unvote. I don't really expect him to get much information with only 3 people before changing his mind.

NoHitter wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372
lol'd

Oh yeah, btw guys does anyone of you recognize this: "developed..."
Also that joke is old, but some reason they still call me that.

@Tsukasa, why do you think Cookie is town to you? I'm pretty much a sheeper and scardy cat too :)
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
hi RB answer my questions plz

pieguy1372 wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Everything I have suspicion on you, you always claim it as a cheap way to throw blame on you. If you do something suspicious to me, then you are suspicious. How I read your vote is more like to bangwagon on Tsukasa to get him since it looked like a favorable attempt.
"looked like a favorable attempt"? what does that mean?

Raging Bull wrote:

fart never even said RVS is over, he said it is getting out of RVS.
that's the same fucking thing

Raging Bull wrote:

Information is helpful when it is good, but when it's just voting someone for some random ass reason because thats how games like to start, it is not good information. Seems like a cheap way to throw the blame on him.
EXACTLY WHY I SAID IT WAS BAD. THERE WAS NO INFORMATION THERE AND FARTO WAS SAYING RVS WAS OVER WHEN THERE WAS NO INFORMATION. WHAT THE FLYING FUCK

vote: Raging Bully
screw this. your jump on me is opportunistic as fuck and your reasons for voting me are incorrect
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Favorable attempt means by to get him lynched since you can blend in that unusual bandwagon? Why do I spell it out for you.


No it's not. Fart made a reasonable attempt to try to get out of RVS, you took it as "omg fart ended RVS, denied information, scum!"

Lol what? The information I got was you being opportunistic on Tsukasa bandwagon. I'm sorry that you gained nothing, but I gained something.
Tsukasa
471 posts
Joined June 2011
Tsukasa
@RB: Your interactions with pie say otherwise.

Plus the term "Scardy cat" only refers to noob players.
IIRC Cookie told me he never forum mafia's but only IRC mafias. And both have different stuff, based on my observation
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
That doesn't exactly explain why he is town to you, but more or less why I am not town to you.

His current ISO does not really prove him town in my eyes. He has done a "reaction test" and then relay information that people almost knew already "2 scum team with 1-2 scum each team"
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

Favorable attempt means by to get him lynched since you can blend in that unusual bandwagon? Why do I spell it out for you.
are you fucking kidding me? this doesn't make any sense. why the fuck would I deliberately try to get someone lynched in RVS with 7 votes needed to lynch as scum? that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I could see that tactic in like a 9 man game with only 5 votes and even that's kind of insane, but this is really fucking stupid.

Raging Bull wrote:

No it's not. Fart made a reasonable attempt to try to get out of RVS, you took it as "omg fart ended RVS, denied information, scum!"
EXCEPT IT WASN'T A REASONABLE ATTEMPT AT ENDING RVS EXPLICITLY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO INFORMATION OH MY GOD

Raging Bull wrote:

Lol what? The information I got was you being opportunistic on Tsukasa bandwagon. I'm sorry that you gained nothing, but I gained something.
except that's the most fucking BS reason I've ever seen ever. that is not in any way opportunistic and the fact that you're pushing it as opportunistic is scummy as fuck. it was a bandwagon yes, but it was in RVS and there was no risk of Tsukass actually getting lynched. it was intended explicitly to get the game flowing and make new information appear. there is nothing fucking opportunistic there. if anything, you pushing this angle on me is opportunistic as fuck and my RVS vote is fine.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
I'm done with you.
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter

Tsukasa wrote:

Plus the term "Scardy cat" only refers to noob players.
IIRC Cookie told me he never forum mafia's but only IRC mafias. And both have different stuff, based on my observation
So why are you defending Cookie? Are you townreading him that much?
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

I'm done with you.
what's this?

afraid to 1v1 me for real because you know I'll completely own you? :>
Tsukasa
471 posts
Joined June 2011
Tsukasa
Well one, you're a townread of mine for now (Plus hints of paranoia)
two, I would usually read "Lol I'm reaction testing" as scum. But newbness got in the way so I'm reading cookie town.
Tsukasa
471 posts
Joined June 2011
Tsukasa

NoHitter wrote:

Tsukasa wrote:

Plus the term "Scardy cat" only refers to noob players.
IIRC Cookie told me he never forum mafia's but only IRC mafias. And both have different stuff, based on my observation
So why are you defending Cookie? Are you townreading him that much?
Apparently... yes.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
I'm almost positive RB is scum

town RB gets angry when I push him and isn't afraid to 1v1 me to the death. scum RB, on the other hand, stays calmly and doesn't push back at people who push him as much

he needs moar votes ASAP plz ~
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull

Tsukasa wrote:

Well one, you're a townread of mine for now (Plus hints of paranoia)
two, I would usually read "Lol I'm reaction testing" as scum. But newbness got in the way so I'm reading cookie town.

Tsukasa wrote:

Apparently... yes.
I don't read you as scum, but I do not agree with you here. You mention that he plays IRC mafia but not forum mafia. I do not think that defines him as a newb or anything. Gamestyle is different but gore cameplay is the same.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

I don't read you as scum, but I do not agree with you here. You mention that he plays IRC mafia but not forum mafia. I do not think that defines him as a newb or anything. Gamestyle is different but gore cameplay is the same.
Core gameplay. gg me.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
best typo ever

even if you're scum :cry:
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Unvote

Look, I'll entertain you now, but because of your very awesome tunneling and inaccurate gut feeling in this game, I do not believe you are my suspect anymore. Granted I still don't care what you say about me after this.

pieguy1372 wrote:

I'm almost positive RB is scum

town RB gets angry when I push him and isn't afraid to 1v1 me to the death. scum RB, on the other hand, stays calmly and doesn't push back at people who push him as much

he needs moar votes ASAP plz ~
AND YO MOTHER FATHER, I CAN CHANGE MY META ANYTIME I WANT!!!!! I RATHER LYNCH YOU THAN SCUM NOW!

Vote:Cookie
Tsukasa
471 posts
Joined June 2011
Tsukasa
Let's all be friends now.

*points to GiF's Signature*
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.08

DakeDekaane (3): Tsukasa, CalignoBot, CTs-Th
Cookie (3) - NoHitter, rEdo, Raging Bull
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372

Not Voting - Irreversible, Cookie, fartownik

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

and farto, there's something that stinks about you, too: I would expect the same reaction to 2 post with the same content - here you have opposite ones
A farto + Cookie scumteam would make sense
Same content is not the same person that wrote it. I thought Cookie was newbs at first, a newbs would do such thing as a way to falsely contribute to Town, even when he's Town himself, so the argument of setup speculation wouldn't apply. But on the other side, NH said he actually played a couple of games on the IRC before so I'm wary about him again.

By the way, your scumspects and arguments on them are very weak. Your last post seemed huge as fuck, but there was actually nothing in there that would be considered useful, good mirage there. You basically only sheep me for the Irre suspicion + attack me on my post. The case on Cookie and rEdo is not reasoned enough, but you still put them as your main scumspects.

pieguy1372 wrote:

speaking of fartownik I have a meta tell on him and I haven't seen town-him here yet
but the game just started so
I will start swearing like a sailor when the game gets hot, I promise.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

CalignoBot wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Welp, Cookie seems very scummy right now.

Unvote
Vote: Cookie
This guy can go in the scumpile too.
Also wat, what's scummy in this?
Uni
osu! Alumni
250 posts
Joined December 2010
Uni
Wow you guys are master stalkers, since i never told anyone that i recently started playing Mafia on IRC, but fair enough I'm still learning it
the reason i unvoted on DD was because i rereaded the stuff that happened before that which made me realised i made the mistake i made on it

@Sephibro i looked over it apparently because i didnt read that before

feel free to lynch me but it wont help town at all
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
Well, that's escalated quickly...

Tsukasa wrote:

CTs-Th wrote:

Vote : DakeDekaane for what he did make me sense "scumness" from him.
I do not even...
Wha... what? Did I miss something?
Btw, I've re-read Dake's ISO. Still confused and unable to analyse anything. Maybe, just maybe, he isn't scum.

Unvote.

My head is filled with unsorted information right now. Due to newbie, I can't perform any read. : |
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
I feel like some people here "pretend" that they didn't read rule so they don't know that there're 2 scumteams and 2 players each.

@Cookie
If your "reaction fishing" was real. Then you doesn't need to tell us reasons why you vote Dake. Nor do you have any.
But if it wasn't real and your vote was really a mistake. Then please tell me and everybody here why you vote Dake for the first time. Even it's just your mistaken idea.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

fartownik wrote:

I will start swearing like a sailor when the game gets hot, I promise.
that wasn't it but ok

will make a real post later
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter

Cookie wrote:

Wow you guys are master stalkers, since i never told anyone that i recently started playing Mafia on IRC, but fair enough I'm still learning it
I saw you on IRC lol.

Cookie wrote:

the reason i unvoted on DD was because i rereaded the stuff that happened before that which made me realised i made the mistake i made on it
You didn't have to lie about it and claim it was a reaction test. Lying like that is a scumtell. So yeah, tell us what was your initial reason.

Cookie wrote:

feel free to lynch me but it wont help town at all
The "lynch me but it won't help you" card being played this early? Deadline is still a long ways from now and you weren't even at L-2 yet, so why are you so desperate?
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Oh my, Cookie, you took the bait in the wrong way. I wasn't even considering you scum as you said you were to explain why you were voting me. The post wasn't even directed at you, it was directed to everyone that would vote me after that post as it's said in it. I'd be really glad to hear if you really had a reason to vote me or they were just empty words.

Or if it was truly a reaction test, what did you get from it?
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull

CTs-Th wrote:

Wha... what? Did I miss something?
Btw, I've re-read Dake's ISO. Still confused and unable to analyse anything. Maybe, just maybe, he isn't scum.

Unvote.

My head is filled with unsorted information right now. Due to newbie, I can't perform any read. : |
Idk how you read him as scum and then re reading his ISO made you even more confused and think he isn't scum. What did he say to you that pinged scum to you?
Tsukasa
471 posts
Joined June 2011
Tsukasa

Cookie wrote:

Wow you guys are master stalkers, since i never told anyone that i recently started playing Mafia on IRC
You did to me like, once? twice? thrice? IDK

Anyways...

I won't be posting as much as I do anymore because I'm really losing interest because of some people (Not here, btw).
And yeah... Oh well
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