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Loginer

James wrote:

Wheres the eyeglasses? :(
On your avatar.
Topic Starter
Loginer
GAAAH. I'm trying to find a good renderer for the mascot, and thought I'd settle with FinalToon. But I can't find the SP1 version anywhere(Found one link, but NOD32 reported it as a virus). I don't want it to look like a 3D model... ;__;
Topic Starter
Loginer
The body is pretty much finished. It only needs a head, an outfit, and some hair. :/
Topic Starter
Loginer

Find something I need to improve. AND IF YOU MENTION TOES/FINGERS, I'M GOING TO TRACK YOU DOWN AND SHOOT YOU.
P-Drogan

Loginer wrote:


Find something I need to improve. AND IF YOU MENTION TOES/FINGERS, I'M GOING TO TRACK YOU DOWN AND SHOOT YOU.
I think the model needs a bit more Curves on the torso(thinning near the waist area).
awp
The general anatomy feels a bit off. I think it would be really beneficial if you used references a la nude models (and let's keep it serious in this thread) as well as human skeletons. ALSO YOUR HANDS LOOK PRETTY DAMN GOOD APART FROM THE THUMB BEING TOO PULLED BACK/SMALL MAYBE. Proportions feel good but the torso is far too flat.

Also breasts are too high up; collarbones, anyone?
peppy

awp wrote:

Also breasts are too high up; collarbones, anyone?
They used to be lower - loginer listened to someone's advice and moved them up I think... they were more in-place before :/.
Topic Starter
Loginer
Lowered the breasts, increased the thumb size, and made the body a bit more curvy. Here's a picture.

Also, awesome renderer is awesome.
Sinistro
I think this looks more like a young girl's body now, cool :)
MOOMANiBE
Find something I need to improve.
Wellll... <.<;;; Not to be mean, but... :( Your anatomy is really off... x_X;;;
I drew you up an image to illustrate.



If you need any specifics, just ask ^^;
YoshiKart

MOOMANiBE wrote:

:( Your anatomy is really off... x_X;;;
I drew you up an image to illustrate.

Image

If you need any specifics, just ask ^^;

I see where your avatar comes from. :) Nice job!!

Loginer, I think the joints need work. Just saying...
LuigiHann

Sinistro wrote:

I think this looks more like a young girl's body now, cool :)
Loginer's gonna go to jail :P

Good job so far Loginer. I do agree that you should take Moom's advice on the joints.
Topic Starter
Loginer

MOOMANiBE wrote:

Find something I need to improve.
Wellll... <.<;;; Not to be mean, but... :( Your anatomy is really off... x_X;;;
I drew you up an image to illustrate.



If you need any specifics, just ask ^^;
Poor me. ;____;
It would help if you drew a picture like that with a front view, and one with a left view, as I could use them while modeling. :/
chan
It makes me sound a bit dodgy but slimmer legs and a bigger butt would probably work better :P
MOOMANiBE

Loginer wrote:

Poor me. ;____;
It would help if you drew a picture like that with a front view, and one with a left view, as I could use them while modeling. :/
I could try after finals assuming you don't mind waiting. Might be hard to keep the drawings consistent enough, though.
Topic Starter
Loginer

MOOMANiBE wrote:

Loginer wrote:

Poor me. ;____;
It would help if you drew a picture like that with a front view, and one with a left view, as I could use them while modeling. :/
I could try after finals assuming you don't mind waiting. Might be hard to keep the drawings consistent enough, though.
Meh, I could try fixing the model up today. :/
awp

MOOMANiBE wrote:

Loginer wrote:

Poor me. ;____;
It would help if you drew a picture like that with a front view, and one with a left view, as I could use them while modeling. :/
I could try after finals assuming you don't mind waiting.
I don't think Lolginer actually needs a rendered image (right?), just basically an inked outline similar to what you were doing in your previous image. Just so we don't get the wrong idea and use up unnecessary energy.

On that note, I myself would still like to see a rendered image =3
MOOMANiBE

awp wrote:

I don't think Lolginer actually needs a rendered image (right?), just basically an inked outline similar to what you were doing in your previous image. Just so we don't get the wrong idea and use up unnecessary energy.
Yeah, it's just that when you're drawing for a model you have to make absolutely sure that the proportions are the same down to the finest details in both directions, otherwise problems start cropping up for the modeler. It takes a bit, which is why I'm waiting ^_^;;

awp wrote:

On that note, I myself would still like to see a rendered image =3
I'll probably do one eventually :D
Topic Starter
Loginer

MOOMANiBE wrote:

Yeah, it's just that when you're drawing for a model you have to make absolutely sure that the proportions are the same down to the finest details in both directions, otherwise problems start cropping up for the modeler.
Meh, not really. <.<
Topic Starter
Loginer
Zomg legs. :]
Edit: Now with over 9000% more arms.
Edit: Now it's just a pile of pictures. <_<







chan
Don't hate me but I think your mascot has cankles. As in calf-ankles. Any chance at slimmer ankles? ...and possibly calves
Sarumaru_old
I'm always late to the party~ >w<

SOooo I drew up some character concepts but wanted to know what you guys thought before I proceeded, this is far from done but . Their outfits are very reminiscent of cheer outfits used in Japanese/Korean school. They are currently nameless but I like the name "Asami" for the female. Just throwin' this out there~ :)

COMMENCE CRITICISM!! XD

Duoprism
You win many internets.
Echo
I think we need to switch models :P
P-Drogan

Sarumaru wrote:

I'm always late to the party~ >w<

SOooo I drew up some character concepts but wanted to know what you guys thought before I proceeded, this is far from done but . Their outfits are very reminiscent of cheer outfits used in Japanese/Korean school. They are currently nameless but I like the name "Asami" for the female. Just throwin' this out there~ :)

COMMENCE CRITICISM!! XD
...... :o
That concept is extremely good!!!
You sir, are Epic Win! :)
peppy

Sarumaru wrote:

COMMENCE CRITICISM!! XD
Male - pretty nice
Female - ugh. reminds me of sailor moon - i much prefer the previous two concept works by kage7 and awp personally.
Sarumaru_old

peppy wrote:

Sarumaru wrote:

COMMENCE CRITICISM!! XD
Male - pretty nice
Female - ugh. reminds me of sailor moon - i much prefer the previous two concept works by kage7 and awp personally.
Sailor Moon?! Heh, maybe I am outside my element then. :D

Anywayz, here's a pic I drew in MS Paint for an MMO idea sometime back. Ignore the first two, but the third character was to be used as the example character for the Cheerleaders Club, she is also a character of mine that I have used in other projects.

chan
OMG that's awesome for MSpaint!
Indeed, first 2 characters aren't relevant but 3rd looks pretty fitting for osu!
MOOMANiBE
Ahhh.. nothing like a relaxing art break. This is based roughly off awp's rendition of the mascot, but I've made some changes.

Echo
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RemmyX25
@Sarumaru's drawing: I love it!! (the third one i mean) Definitely worth a shot... wait did you say MSPaint?? :?

@Moom's drawing

Echo49 wrote:

@moom: it looks great, but somehow the face looks... non-human ==;
I wouldn't say non-human... just a little awkward. Otherwise I love the pink scheme.
awp
@Sarumaru: Love the male design. Fucking awesome, seriously. The female designs feel a bit standard to me, though - the second one posted, that is. First one I'm kind of on the line with. I don't exactly like the long hair, but other than that, I like some elements of the design. The legs, specifically. Granted they're pretty awesome pictures and rather pleasing to the eye, so bonus for posting them anyway~

I like Moom's a bit as well (yeah the face feels a bit strange - it's probably the nose, not that it matters from a DESIGN standpoint) but the waist without any sort of tail-end to flail and flow with dance moves makes me sad =( I liked that part of it.

The skirt is a good length though. I think it's important for the outfits to be designed with flow in mind. Knee-length skirts are a good way of accomplishing this, for example =3
Sarumaru_old
Thanks awp! Speaking of which, here's another image that I drew which is -loosely- based on awp's idea (When I drew the first two chars, I did not bother reading through the thread). It's is a very rough sketch but you get the idea.

LuigiHann
I like this new design, Sarumaru. I like the legwarmers in theory, but I can't help but think they make her look more like a Gundam, lol. I do like that we now seem to have some decent artists and I like that the designs are starting to converge into a solid idea. Keep tennis-ing the design back and forth until we all agree on something, that's what I say :)
Sarumaru_old

LuigiHann wrote:

I like this new design, Sarumaru. I like the legwarmers in theory, but I can't help but think they make her look more like a Gundam, lol.
Or MEGAMAN!! All she needs now is a Rock Buster!!!

OSSU!! *Blows your ass clean off*
awp
Three things I "dislike" about this new draft:
-Actually writing "osu" on the circles looks a little tacky imo
-Skirt could do to be a BIT longer, almost to the knees?
-Face looks a little too serious/sure of herself/experienced?

It is pretty awesome though~

Love the leg-warmers as I said earlier, though they do look a bit exaggerated/big.
Sarumaru_old
FIXED!!

awp
roboboobs fuck yes
shinn_old
I actually liked the last idea instead of the Robot looking one
Topic Starter
Loginer
Random picture. Still no shoulders, weird-looking body, and still decapitated, but oh well. :>

Echo

awp wrote:

-Actually writing "osu" on the circles looks a little tacky imo
-Skirt could do to be a BIT longer, almost to the knees?
-Face looks a little too serious/sure of herself/experienced?
I agree with the "osu" one but I think skirt and face are fine. Imo her arms and legs could be more thin though :P

edit: thighs and right forearm in particular
Sakimichi

Sarumaru wrote:

Thanks awp! Speaking of which, here's another image that I drew which is -loosely- based on awp's idea (When I drew the first two chars, I did not bother reading through the thread). It's is a very rough sketch but you get the idea.
I like it :D
Duoprism
The rejected Osu logo concept is now my avatar lol.
kage__7
I thought I'd post my 3d model I've been working on



awp
That is looking quite nice. The cartoon shader feels a bit overdone to me though...is it possible for the effects to be milder, so the model doesn't look as flat? I almost prefer the top-screen version.
James
BRAVO!! BRAVO!!


How I wish I can do those stuffs...
xerxes_oli
why does the anime person have to be a girl but w/e anime peoples are definately better then robots... :roll:
awp

oli16439 wrote:

why does the anime person have to be a girl
Most JPop is sung by female vocalists I guess

plus osu! is inherently pink and a guy wearing pink, well, not something the fanbase wants to see dancing around.
xerxes_oli
lol
GuardianHX

Sarumaru wrote:

Thanks awp! Speaking of which, here's another image that I drew which is -loosely- based on awp's idea (When I drew the first two chars, I did not bother reading through the thread). It's is a very rough sketch but you get the idea.

THAT is awesome!

I'd criticize, but I can't find anything wrong with it, plus I'm in a state of lack-of-sleep.

... Seriously, awesome.

Freaking tempted to ask for Rule34, though. >_>

Also, LOL at the Rockman/Megaman edit. XD

Echo49 wrote:

awp wrote:

-Actually writing "osu" on the circles looks a little tacky imo
-Skirt could do to be a BIT longer, almost to the knees?
-Face looks a little too serious/sure of herself/experienced?
I agree with the "osu" one but I think skirt and face are fine. Imo her arms and legs could be more thin though :P

edit: thighs and right forearm in particular
Agreed on the skirt being fine, but the arms and legs shouldn't go any thinner, else she'll start looking too skinny.
The anatomy will look fake if they get thin. ;o;
Topic Starter
Loginer
I haven't worked on the mascot for weeks. Time to make a head. <.<
awp
As per LH's request, played around with the three prominent designs and rolled them all into one awp-idea
ROMaster2

awp wrote:

As per LH's request, played around with the three prominent designs and rolled them all into one awp-idea
Sexy :)
Karsh_old
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James
SO FUCKING IMBALANCED~~~~

+1 !!!
Echo
HAHAHA karsh ftw
Karsh_old
kawaii avataruuu~~~
LuigiHann
Progress has been made. Keep idle discussion in this thread, but if you're an artist interested in helping out, please post over here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3897
Topic Starter
Loginer

awp wrote:

As per LH's request, played around with the three prominent designs and rolled them all into one awp-idea
Damn it, the picture won't load. Upload it somewhere else, mmkay? Never mind, noticed the new topic. :D

Karsh wrote:

*attachment of evils*‏‏‏‏‏‏
Also, what's that? Another link plz
chan
Any chance of those pics coming back? I wanted to save the "solution" pic :D
Sarumaru_old
all your chan are belong to us.
Behon
I've thought about two things we might want to start thinking about for the mascot: A name and a voice. My first ideas are that we could name her after one of the Ouendan cheerleaders or Elite Beat Divas as homage, and I know several message boards where people do amateur voice acting for free. We'd need the usual countdown, a miss clip, and maybe some shouts at certain points as an extra whistle/finish.
awp

Behonkiss wrote:

I've thought about two things we might want to start thinking about for the mascot: A name and a voice.
Prototype name was "Pippi" because lol peppy
RemmyX25

Behonkiss wrote:

I've thought about two things we might want to start thinking about for the mascot: A name and a voice.
I might have a cute voice for "pippi" (or whatever her name is) in mind... I just gotta run the idea by her. If not, I have other people in mind. Just give me a list of things to record and stuff.
Topic Starter
Loginer
There are 2 more details I'll have to add when I'm home again: The skirt, and the hair. I tried to create a skirt, but I can't simulate that newly-ironed look(I know what to do, it simply won't work), so is a more round-looking skirt OK?
Metroid
Heres a pic of the mascot That i colored pixel by pixel in Paint.NET.
It was hard to do.

Also Some1 should make a guy mascot so we have a male gender version for our male players? Have twin mascots or something.
I think the male one should have like a blue Osu! themed outfit and also the girl's fingers should have been more sharp to be more anime girl like.

Topic Starter
Loginer

Metroid wrote:

Heres a pic of the mascot That i colored pixel by pixel in Paint.NET.
It was hard to do.
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RemmyX25
Thank you, Captain Picard.
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Metroid
So you hate my job of coloring.

at least I tried and I wasn't trying to be super detailed just a rough coloring sheesh.
awp
what the fuck Sarumaru you said you were going to post the ink layer where is it D=
Topic Starter
Loginer

Metroid wrote:

So you hate my job of coloring.

at least I tried and I wasn't trying to be super detailed just a rough coloring sheesh.
That, and the way you colored it.
Metroid
Well at least I tried Oh well I'll get back my beatmaps that need work. :P
awp
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RemmyX25
So yea. What do you need from my end? Its almost a given YES that my friend will help out. She has the perfect voice for Pippi, based on what I'm seeing.

EDIT: Looks good, awp!
LuigiHann

RemmyX25 wrote:

So yea. What do you need from my end? Its almost a given YES that my friend will help out. She has the perfect voice for Pippi, based on what I'm seeing.

EDIT: Looks good, awp!
For voice, start with:

Are you ready?
3
2
1
Go!

And some kind of "oomph!" or "oh no!" for combo break. And perhaps "We did it!" for when a song is cleared.
Rasec_old
I like the girl awp but maybe it has to much pink.
I know that osu! also has a lot of pink but maybe a little of contrast would be good.

For the voice i look forward to hear something cool.
RavenlockA
On the contrary, I think the pink adds the necessary touch to what is already present in the Osu! app.

Overall, I'd like to share my opinion: looking good so far!
awp


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YoshiKart
Reminds me of peppy's old status as factory slave. =P
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Behon
Am I the only one who thinks that the cleavage is a bit much? It could easily be fixed by making the star one solid color.

awp
A - it was originally designed for someone around the age of 17, where this sort of thing would be expected
B - in the chibi model, the inner star is pink because red is glaring
C - Pippi is known to be a bit of a tramp anyway~
Saturos
She does fill that top quite a bit for a 15-year-old, what with the overlap and all. Pretty gifted mascot.
awp

Saturos wrote:

She does fill that top quite a bit for a 15-year-old, what with the overlap and all. Pretty gifted mascot.
You'll thank us when she becomes legal~

(and maybe non-fictional)

oh wait I got it once DessaChan's done with her Mikuru cosplay she should totally cosplay as osu! mascot at the next anime convention that'd be rad <3
RemmyX25

awp wrote:

oh wait I got it once DessaChan's done with her Mikuru cosplay she should totally cosplay as osu! mascot at the next anime convention that'd be rad <3
DUDE That would be pretty amazing, and some of us can go there as the Ouendan! It's great advertising!
RemmyX25
Download: PippiVoice.zip

Here's the voice samples and a readme about them inside.

Please let me know what you think! Tina and I can always re-record if we have to.

The only issues I had were that they sound to "airy." How do i iron those little air sound particle things out?
awp
The recording is actually fairly clean, I thought. Also, I think the voice is possible, but needs re-recording.

My stance on it is, the voice could be a tad higher-sounding. Tighten the vocal chords a bit more. And the actual reading of the lines lacks the right emotion, it sounds a bit rushed, and the emphasis falls on the wrong places.

Applause is just a straight-up "we-did-it" and doesn't really feel excited or energetic. I picture Pippi jumping when she says this. Either stretch the We out (Weeeee~ DID IT!) or hook the "did" more (We DID it!)

combobreak's not too bad, I think maybe hook the No a bit more. Sound a bit more desperate, maybe.

Ready, counts, go - it almost sounds like it's in the reverse order. There's a real drop in the "One" - it sounds like the end of the sentence, when there's still "Go!" to go. Ready sounds more like a statement to me than a question, and I can't really pick up any distinct emphasis. Try saying "Are you ready?" and bob your head down at the "rea" (of ready) and back up at "dy" to see if you can feel the movement of it. Also, it might help to record the entire "Are you ready? Three, two, one, go!" all at once - it really sounds like each sound file was its own take, and feels a bit broken/jumbled.

readyLOL.wav - too much breath on the "ck" but other than that, <3

readyLOL2.wav - "Oss", not "oh sue"...also, is that your mouse clicking that I hear, Remdawg?

There is my "I have no regard for how this makes you feel" critique of take One. There's no reason we can't continue to work at it, right?

Try making exaggerated body movements when you say the lines. If you feel that you're there, that you're actually this character, it might come more naturally.

Also harass peppy to see what he thinks. And maybe LH, too.

Behon
She says "Are you ready?" way too quick, and the applause doesn't sound enthusiastic enough. The whole thing sounds really casual and not very appropriately bubbly, so you might want to re-record. As for the air sound issues, take each sound into Audacity and do the following:

-Highlight a 'silent' part of the line
-Choose Noise Removal from the Effect Tab
-Click Get Noise Profile.
-Highlight the whole sound.
-Choose Noise Removal again.
-Click Remove Noise. Voila!

I say take all this advice and have Tina do another round of recordings, but since the window is open for others, here's a list of demos for amateur voice actresses that do stuff like this, Flash animations, and fandubs for free. I think that Rina-chan and Mippa have good voices for the character.
http://voiceacting.proboards62.com/inde ... hread=8414
RemmyX25

awp wrote:

The recording is actually fairly clean, I thought. Also, I think the voice is possible, but needs re-recording.

My stance on it is, the voice could be a tad higher-sounding. Tighten the vocal chords a bit more. And the actual reading of the lines lacks the right emotion, it sounds a bit rushed, and the emphasis falls on the wrong places.

Applause is just a straight-up "we-did-it" and doesn't really feel excited or energetic. I picture Pippi jumping when she says this. Either stretch the We out (Weeeee~ DID IT!) or hook the "did" more (We DID it!)
That's what I thought, but she had to be somewhere very soon. I'll make note of that.

awp wrote:

Ready, counts, go - it almost sounds like it's in the reverse order. There's a real drop in the "One" - it sounds like the end of the sentence, when there's still "Go!" to go. Ready sounds more like a statement to me than a question, and I can't really pick up any distinct emphasis. Try saying "Are you ready?" and bob your head down at the "rea" (of ready) and back up at "dy" to see if you can feel the movement of it. Also, it might help to record the entire "Are you ready? Three, two, one, go!" all at once - it really sounds like each sound file was its own take, and feels a bit broken/jumbled.
You want them all in one file? Ok then, i'm assuming you'll break them later.

awp wrote:

readyLOL.wav - too much breath on the "ck" but other than that, <3
readyLOL2.wav - "Oss", not "oh sue"
ahaha they weren't meant to be taken seriously, but i'll pass the note along

awp wrote:

...also, is that your mouse clicking that I hear, Remdawg?
...No... >.>

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Ok yes.

awp wrote:

There is my "I have no regard for how this makes you feel" critique of take One. There's no reason we can't continue to work at it, right?
Of course not!

awp wrote:

Try making exaggerated body movements when you say the lines. If you feel that you're there, that you're actually this character, it might come more naturally.
Noted.

awp wrote:

Also harass peppy to see what he thinks. And maybe LH, too.
When I'm confident in it, sure.


Behonkiss wrote:

She says "Are you ready?" way too quick, and the applause doesn't sound enthusiastic enough. The whole thing sounds really casual and not very appropriately bubbly, so you might want to re-record.
Again, i realize she was rushing too much. There's a small personal issue going on that let to rushed voice acting. We're settling this soon.


Behonkiss wrote:

I think that Rina-chan and Mippa have good voices for the character.
http://voiceacting.proboards62.com/inde ... hread=8414
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Behon
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Topic Starter
Loginer
The voice could work, but the pronunciation needs some work. Tina also seems to have a problem with high tones, although I mainly base this on the LOLs. Warming up for a minute or two by doing weird sounds with varied pitches, and using exaggerated mouth movements when recording the lines should help. The "Are you ready?" is way to quick and the 1, 2 and 3 in the countdown should all have the same pitch. Also, personally, I think the ending thing is a bad idea. And air problems aside, the quality is fine.
awp
More screwing around from last night, tweaked slightly today



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which is better, mouth open or closed?
LuigiHann
Closed.
Topic Starter
Loginer
Open, but it's a pretty unimportant detail.

Download: DCX - Flying High (jericho2442) [Ultimate's CrazyRave (old)].osu
RemmyX25
Open.
Echo
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Duoprism
Try a different pose, standing doesn't seem to fit this situation.
awp

Reikin wrote:

Try a different pose, standing doesn't seem to fit this situation.
It's pretty much scrapped at this point.
Topic Starter
Loginer
3ds is giving me hell. I've been stuck on the fucking skirt for DAYS. Not even asking for help on the Autodesk board seems to be of much help. <_>
But I'm close, I know it. I WILL make that damn nudist wear a skirt. >:[
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