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Fixed. I missed the space in your name the first time.
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remember "blueyoshi" is a user that hasn't been active for 3 months
remember "blueyoshi" is a user that hasn't been active for 3 months
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11 out of 12 have confirmed. NoHitter has 48 hours to pick up his role PM.
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June 14, 1983
I have finally arrived in Hinamizawa. The locals have been welcoming, which was a surprise after what I had heard. The festival is in five days, but there is an unexplained tension in the air. It makes me uncomfortable. i want to get this assignment done and get out as fast as I can.
I don't trust this place.
It is now Day 1. With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch.
Deadline is 10/19 at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6)
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June 14, 1983
I have finally arrived in Hinamizawa. The locals have been welcoming, which was a surprise after what I had heard. The festival is in five days, but there is an unexplained tension in the air. It makes me uncomfortable. i want to get this assignment done and get out as fast as I can.
I don't trust this place.
It is now Day 1. With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch.
Deadline is 10/19 at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6)
lol redo xDDD
I can remember my first mafia game, i wrote 'I can feel he's mafia'
Guess what, I WAS LYNCH DAY 1
Vote: BRBP
I can remember my first mafia game, i wrote 'I can feel he's mafia'
Guess what, I WAS LYNCH DAY 1
Vote: BRBP
vote:pieguy
I can feel he's mafia gut feeling
aw shit rEdo did the joke already
Vote: Sephibro
Vote: Sephibro
Absolutely not sheeping <:
Absolutely not sheeping <:
Confirm and let's go.
Mod: What happens when there is no majority when the deadline is reached? Does a prulality lynch occur or no lynch?
Vote: DakeDekaane
For absolutely not sheeping
Mod: What happens when there is no majority when the deadline is reached? Does a prulality lynch occur or no lynch?
Vote: DakeDekaane
For absolutely not sheeping
On a second thought, it is against statistics that farto is scum on 3/3 games played with me and i spot him everytime. At least, if he's scum this time too, i should leave him alone 
unvote, vote: NoHitter welcome
unvote, vote: NoHitter welcome
Wait, what the f-. this was really anti-town, if he's scum he should get eliminated, or why the hell would you 'leave him alone'?
FoS: Sephibro
Unvote
FoS: Sephibro
Unvote
We'll see if it really was a joke or not.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.01
Be careful of needles in your ohagi.
[2] Sephibro -- fartownik, DakeDekaane (L-5)
[1] Irreversible -- rEdo
[1] pieguy1372 -- Raging Bull
[1] DakeDekaane -- NoHitter
[1] NoHitter -- Sephibro
[1] Raging Bull -- Zexion_Vi
[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] BRBP --
[0] fartownik --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Sakura --
[0] Zexion_Vi --
Not Voting -- Irreversible, pieguy1372, BRBP, Sakura, Blue Yoshi,
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.
Be careful of needles in your ohagi.
[2] Sephibro -- fartownik, DakeDekaane (L-5)
[1] Irreversible -- rEdo
[1] pieguy1372 -- Raging Bull
[1] DakeDekaane -- NoHitter
[1] NoHitter -- Sephibro
[1] Raging Bull -- Zexion_Vi
[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] BRBP --
[0] fartownik --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Sakura --
[0] Zexion_Vi --
Not Voting -- Irreversible, pieguy1372, BRBP, Sakura, Blue Yoshi,
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.
If at least one person is at L-1, they will be lynched. Otherwise, no lynch will occur. This is to give some leeway while also requiring at least some form of consensus.NoHitter wrote:
Mod: What happens when there is no majority when the deadline is reached? Does a prulality lynch occur or no lynch?
no, i'm not a BAT :c k bad joke
mh, there hasn't been much said yet and i just take the things they offer me :3 but i wasn't that agressive, if I was, i'd have voted him.
mh, there hasn't been much said yet and i just take the things they offer me :3 but i wasn't that agressive, if I was, i'd have voted him.
vote: BRBP
don't sheep me during confirmation phase plz
don't sheep me during confirmation phase plz
Unvote
Vote: BRBP
Vote: BRBP
Mion? Is that you?
Vote: Sakura
Now do an actual thing.
Now do an actual thing.
Blue Yoshi wrote:
Mion? Is that you?
What does that mean?
Someone is role-fishing
Someone is nutpicking to a doubtful rolefishing.
Well I'm rather curious what he meant by "Mion, is that you" and then the vote on Sakura "Now do an actual thing"
Mion seems like an anime character, but yeah, i'm wondering too
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.02
Don't follow boys with bats home.
[2] BRBP -- pieguy1372, fartownik (L-5)
[1] Sephibro -- DakeDekaane
[1] Irreversible -- rEdo
[1] pieguy1372 -- Raging Bull
[1] DakeDekaane -- NoHitter
[1] NoHitter -- Sephibro
[1] Raging Bull -- Zexion_Vi
[1] fartownik -- BRBP
[1] Sakura -- BlueYoshi
[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion_Vi --
Not Voting -- Irreversible, Sakura
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.
Don't follow boys with bats home.
[2] BRBP -- pieguy1372, fartownik (L-5)
[1] Sephibro -- DakeDekaane
[1] Irreversible -- rEdo
[1] pieguy1372 -- Raging Bull
[1] DakeDekaane -- NoHitter
[1] NoHitter -- Sephibro
[1] Raging Bull -- Zexion_Vi
[1] fartownik -- BRBP
[1] Sakura -- BlueYoshi
[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion_Vi --
Not Voting -- Irreversible, Sakura
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.
This will be placed in the opening post to reduce further confusion about character names.CalignoBot in the Mod Queue Topic wrote:
3. All characters from this list are fair game, and anyone not familiar with the fandom are encouraged to look here instead of the fandom's wiki for information on the characters in order to avoid spoilers
Mion is a character in the show. I don't know if he has a role that needs to look for his sister.
are you sheeping me or OMGUS'ing?fartownik wrote:
Unvote
Vote: BRBP
or something else
except every time I've pushed for a lynch on you you've been mafia, so obviously you're mafia this time too \:D/BRBP wrote:
You're scumpainting me again ;___;
k serious time
what are you trying to accomplish by asking about Yoshi's role?Raging Bull wrote:
Mion is a character in the show. I don't know if he has a role that needs to look for his sister.
We also have OMGUS by farto, as far as I got that right
Possible third party is involved?pieguy1372 wrote:
what are you trying to accomplish by asking about Yoshi's role?Raging Bull wrote:
Mion is a character in the show. I don't know if he has a role that needs to look for his sister.
So is RVS finally over?
Unvote
Unvote
Wait what? Wasn't Blue Yoshi the one that was "rolefishing" for Mion by saying:Raging Bull wrote:
Possible third party is involved?pieguy1372 wrote:
Raging Bull wrote:Mion is a character in the show. I don't know if he has a role that needs to look for his sister.what are you trying to accomplish by asking about Yoshi's role?
Blue Yoshi wrote:
Mion? Is that you?
that's rolefishing? 0.0 I thought rolefishing was trying to figure out a specific role in the game. though Yoshi was looking for a certain character so I guess you're right orzNoHitter wrote:
Wait what? Wasn't Blue Yoshi the one that was "rolefishing" for Mion by saying:Blue Yoshi wrote:
Mion? Is that you?
btw, I have a scumread on you. discuss :>
Why?pieguy1372 wrote:
btw, I have a scumread on you. discuss :>
cause you always like to suggest large-scale strategies such as suggesting massclaim, nameclaim, PR or not claim, and so forth, generally on the first few posts of the game
you've made two posts at this point without doing anything like that :>
you've made two posts at this point without doing anything like that :>
I don't always suggest a plan like that though.
The Mafia Restoration Project - suggests follow the cop immediately
Stacking the Deck - asks people to claim if they're a PR or not on the first post
Touhou PyP IV - asks for massclaim
I forgot most of what I know from all the games before I reappeared, but afaik in Touhou PyP II you were mafia and didn't suggest anything besides confirming with the mod when the flip happens. but, I forgot most of the other games so I might be biased = =
Stacking the Deck - asks people to claim if they're a PR or not on the first post
Touhou PyP IV - asks for massclaim
I forgot most of what I know from all the games before I reappeared, but afaik in Touhou PyP II you were mafia and didn't suggest anything besides confirming with the mod when the flip happens. but, I forgot most of the other games so I might be biased = =
Try looking at my older games.
Vote: Blue Yoshi
Sorry my computer broke. I will still play but might be hard for me with phone only
Since most of us know the anime characters, we can make pretty accurate setup speculation. Why aren't we doing this already?
Furude Rika
Sonozaki Mion
Sonozaki Shion
Ryuuguu Rena
Hojou Satoko
Maebara Keiichi
^These characters are for sure in the game and they should be all town aligned (6/12)
Irie Kyousuke
Ooishi Kuraudo
^These two should be in the game, town-aligned, and their powers should be respectively doctor-like and cop-like (8/12)
Takano Miyo
Tomitake Jirou
^These two should be in the game too and they should be scum (Takano Miyo could be something like a godfather with some huge powers) (10/12)
2 more spots, i think there must be 1 more Oyashiro supporter, to be honest it could be Irie Kyousuke too.
Remaining characters are taken among these ones (I'll order from the most to the least probable):
Sonozaki Oryou there could be a "Sonozaki Family" faction too, i think we shouldn't understimate this.
Chie Rumiko town-aligned, she's the teacher so idk what role couild it be
Akasaka Mamoru town-aligned, cop-like
Kasai Tatsuyoshi town-aligned (or Sonozaki-aligned), bodyguard-like
Hojou Teppei third party, he could be a lyncher with the objective to lynch Hojou Satoko
Mamiya Rina third party, she and Hojou Teppei could be lovers
Sonozaki Akane if there's "Sonozaki Family" faction, she's in
Hojou Satoshi useless but would be town-aligned
We must consider this too: there could be characters that change their alignment when they increase Hinamizawa Syndrome level (HS)
Oh and regarding this
Furude Rika
Sonozaki Mion
Sonozaki Shion
Ryuuguu Rena
Hojou Satoko
Maebara Keiichi
^These characters are for sure in the game and they should be all town aligned (6/12)
Irie Kyousuke
Ooishi Kuraudo
^These two should be in the game, town-aligned, and their powers should be respectively doctor-like and cop-like (8/12)
Takano Miyo
Tomitake Jirou
^These two should be in the game too and they should be scum (Takano Miyo could be something like a godfather with some huge powers) (10/12)
2 more spots, i think there must be 1 more Oyashiro supporter, to be honest it could be Irie Kyousuke too.
Remaining characters are taken among these ones (I'll order from the most to the least probable):
Sonozaki Oryou there could be a "Sonozaki Family" faction too, i think we shouldn't understimate this.
Chie Rumiko town-aligned, she's the teacher so idk what role couild it be
Akasaka Mamoru town-aligned, cop-like
Kasai Tatsuyoshi town-aligned (or Sonozaki-aligned), bodyguard-like
Hojou Teppei third party, he could be a lyncher with the objective to lynch Hojou Satoko
Mamiya Rina third party, she and Hojou Teppei could be lovers
Sonozaki Akane if there's "Sonozaki Family" faction, she's in
Hojou Satoshi useless but would be town-aligned
We must consider this too: there could be characters that change their alignment when they increase Hinamizawa Syndrome level (HS)
Oh and regarding this
5.4) The mafia do not get a standard mafia kill. Instead, they have the ability to increase the HS level of multiple people.I think that ending D1 without lynch could be a very good choice
Explain por favor.Sakura wrote:
Vote: Blue Yoshi
For Christ sakeSephibro wrote:
Since most of us know the anime characters, we can make pretty accurate setup speculation. Why aren't we doing this already?
Furude Rika
Sonozaki Mion
Sonozaki Shion
Ryuuguu Rena
Hojou Satoko
Maebara Keiichi
^These characters are for sure in the game and they should be all town aligned (6/12)
Irie Kyousuke
Ooishi Kuraudo
^These two should be in the game, town-aligned, and their powers should be respectively doctor-like and cop-like (8/12)
Takano Miyo
Tomitake Jirou
^These two should be in the game too and they should be scum (Takano Miyo could be something like a godfather with some huge powers) (10/12)
2 more spots, i think there must be 1 more Oyashiro supporter, to be honest it could be Irie Kyousuke too.
Remaining characters are taken among these ones (I'll order from the most to the least probable):
Sonozaki Oryou there could be a "Sonozaki Family" faction too, i think we shouldn't understimate this.
Chie Rumiko town-aligned, she's the teacher so idk what role couild it be
Akasaka Mamoru town-aligned, cop-like
Kasai Tatsuyoshi town-aligned (or Sonozaki-aligned), bodyguard-like
Hojou Teppei third party, he could be a lyncher with the objective to lynch Hojou Satoko
Mamiya Rina third party, she and Hojou Teppei could be lovers
Sonozaki Akane if there's "Sonozaki Family" faction, she's in
Hojou Satoshi useless but would be town-aligned
We must consider this too: there could be characters that change their alignment when they increase Hinamizawa Syndrome level (HS)
Oh and regarding this5.4) The mafia do not get a standard mafia kill. Instead, they have the ability to increase the HS level of multiple people.I think that ending D1 without lynch could be a very good choice
4.5) All story flavor is completely game-irrelevant.
Also nolynching today is no better than lynching. If we nolynch we will end up with the same stuff as D1 + potential PR information. Nolynching is always a day lost without trying to hunt scum, proposing nolynch at such early stage of the day is scummy.
On a second thought, my opinion is still that roles have something to do with anime, it can't be only the name. I mean, if there's a cop it's probably Ooishi, if there's a doctor it's Irie Kyousuke, and so on
and no nightkill
we're 12, scum are probably 3. the chance of getting a fundamental PR lynched is too damn high
fartownik wrote:
Also nolynching today is no better than lynching. If we nolynch we will end up with the same stuff as D1 + potential PR information. Nolynching is always a day lost without trying to hunt scum, proposing nolynch at such early stage of the day is scummy.
same stuff as D1 + potential PR information
+ potential PR information
and no nightkill
we're 12, scum are probably 3. the chance of getting a fundamental PR lynched is too damn high
Why do you think no nightkill will occur?Sephibro wrote:
On a second thought, my opinion is still that roles have something to do with anime, it can't be only the name. I mean, if there's a cop it's probably Ooishi, if there's a doctor it's Irie Kyousuke, and so onfartownik wrote:
Also nolynching today is no better than lynching. If we nolynch we will end up with the same stuff as D1 + potential PR information. Nolynching is always a day lost without trying to hunt scum, proposing nolynch at such early stage of the day is scummy.same stuff as D1 + potential PR information+ potential PR information
and no nightkill
we're 12, scum are probably 3. the chance of getting a fundamental PR lynched is too damn high
I think this could be interpreted as a "nightkill".Game Specific Info wrote:
Everyone has a certain Hizamizawa Syndrome (HS) level. This stat goes from 1-5 and begins at 2.
If this value is 5, they will commit suicide at the end of the night.
The mafia do not get a standard mafia kill. Instead, they have the ability to increase the HS level of multiple people.
FoS: Sephibro
If there's 3 scum then most likely every one of them has the ability to increase the HS by 1, everyone starts with 2 so it's possible there will be a nightkill. But this is setup speculation, nothing really useful, there might be only 2 scum as well.
Unvote
Vote: Sephibro
After thinking, this is good. I've never found the "No lynch because afraid of losing a strong PR" argument useful.
Vote: Sephibro
After thinking, this is good. I've never found the "No lynch because afraid of losing a strong PR" argument useful.
the nightkill only occours when someone reaches 5 HS, I don't think that someone can reach such a high value on n1 only
I didn't read this one, you might be rightfartownik wrote:
If there's 3 scum then most likely every one of them has the ability to increase the HS by 1, everyone starts with 2 so it's possible there will be a nightkill. But this is setup speculation, nothing really useful, there might be only 2 scum as well.
And tbh, i still think NoLynch is a good strategy for d1 in a game like this. Well, unless you want everyone to claim d1
Why would you want to gather possible PR info? 
Sephibro wrote:
And tbh, i still think NoLynch is a good strategy for d1 in a game like this. Well, unless you want everyone to claim d1
holy shit I just ended up typing the same stuff as farto did, AGAIN
FACK YOU STOP READING MY MIND WHILE I'M READING THE TOPIC AND RESPONDING TO THEM POSTS RESPECTIVELY IN ORDER
the game would we way too slow if scum couldn't add up less than 3 HS points, actually I believe it's more.Sephibro wrote:
the nightkill only occours when someone reaches 5 HS, I don't think that someone can reach such a high value on n1 only
FoS: Sephibro
orly, somehow i think you don't just believe it, either you know it or so.rEdo wrote:
the game would we way too slow if scum couldn't add up less than 3 HS points, actually I believe it's more.
FoS: rEdo
Mh, I'll look through everything again tomorrow, i'm currently not at home
there's no deeper thought behind it, it's just common sense that the game would be way too slow if scum could add like 2-3 points every night, providing there are roles that can also undo HS.Irreversible wrote:
orly, somehow i think you don't just believe it, either you know it or so.
FoS: rEdo
Well so far as any D1 I don't have clues. I kinda agree with rEdo but not too much either, otherwise it would be too easy for the scum to kill townies. So maybe they get, I don't know, 4 points to increase HS meters? 5 or 6 would be too much (they could easily kill two towns every night) Of course I am just speculating but I'll guess that we'll see how does it works on the first night. Even thought there may be some roles which decrease HS, they have no way of knowing which players have a high HS so it isn't that effective either. (At least not on the early parts of the game)
I never said i want a massclaim, quite the opposite: i want to AVOID a massclaim, which would happen if we try to random lynch as we're doing.rEdo wrote:
we won't gain much by massclaiming either.
I'll explain better. Let's say someone gets pressured hard and is put in L-2; at this point he will claim his role, and two things can happen:
1. best case scenario: someone comes out claiming the same role. One of them two is scum
2. nobody else claims the same role: if that person claimed something credible, we'll vote another person, who will claim and so on
Please use brain, i never say things without thinking if they are good or not, and having to explain everything makes strategies not to work anymore
requesting replacement.
I was waiting for this game but i cannot even play it now
I was waiting for this game but i cannot even play it now
Sephibro wrote:
We must consider this too: there could be characters that change their alignment when they increase Hinamizawa Syndrome level (HS)
rules wrote:
5.5) This set-up is not bastard, and therefore has none of the following: Alignment-Changing Roles or Abilities, Jesters, Cults, Misleading Roles, Unknown Role Modifiers, etc.
I remember you always doing RQS and the one time you didn't (Two's game) you were mafia. case in pointNoHitter wrote:
Try looking at my older games.
wait so when you get a reason for voting someone you instead FoS and continue without a vote? dafuq, can you explain this plzNoHitter wrote:
I think this could be interpreted as a "nightkill".
FoS: Sephibro
vote: NoHItter
mb NH + Sephibro team here? it seems likely NH was afraid of people wagoning on Sephibro o.o
oh god Irre did the same thing. and rEdo FoS'ed while keeping his RVS vote. why aren't you all voting outside RVS ;w;
I always treat my RVS as a joke and forget to delete them, don't treat them as anything serious ^^"
Unvote
but hey, I'd like to hear some more from Sephibro before voting, I don't wanna be too hasty.
oh, and you must have missed Dake's question, I'd like to hear an answer for that~
Unvote
but hey, I'd like to hear some more from Sephibro before voting, I don't wanna be too hasty.
that's not only the point, we will also see the associations between people - somebody's defending somebody else, who's offensive against who and such - with this we could deduce a potential scum combo, and that's the point of this game, isn't it? massclaiming is not a way to avoid that, I don't know why you even associate these things with each other.Sephibro wrote:
2. nobody else claims the same role: if that person claimed something credible, we'll vote another person, who will claim and so on
oh, and you must have missed Dake's question, I'd like to hear an answer for that~
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.03
The clock holds the answer... and another mystery.
[2] Sephibro -- DakeDekaane, fartownik (L-5)
[2] NoHitter -- Sephibro, pieguy1372 (L-5)
[1] pieguy1372 -- Raging Bull
[1] Raging Bull -- Zexion_Vi
[1] fartownik -- BRBP
[1] Sakura -- BlueYoshi
[1] Blue Yoshi -- Sakura
[0] BRBP --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion_Vi --
Not Voting -- Irreversible, NoHitter, rEdo
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.
Raging Bull has requested replacement. Searching for one now.
Rule 3.8 will be changed to a 48 hour deadline per night due to the relative complexity of the set-up.
The clock holds the answer... and another mystery.
[2] Sephibro -- DakeDekaane, fartownik (L-5)
[2] NoHitter -- Sephibro, pieguy1372 (L-5)
[1] pieguy1372 -- Raging Bull
[1] Raging Bull -- Zexion_Vi
[1] fartownik -- BRBP
[1] Sakura -- BlueYoshi
[1] Blue Yoshi -- Sakura
[0] BRBP --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion_Vi --
Not Voting -- Irreversible, NoHitter, rEdo
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.
Raging Bull has requested replacement. Searching for one now.
Rule 3.8 will be changed to a 48 hour deadline per night due to the relative complexity of the set-up.
So we're essentially stuck to playing the same meta everyone is accustomed to or else we're scum? Meta arguments are weak at best.pieguy1372 wrote:
I remember you always doing RQS and the one time you didn't (Two's game) you were mafia. case in pointNoHitter wrote:
Try looking at my older games.
Because it's still early? I can see the merit of pressure votes, but I'm not one to vote quickly unless we have sure information. Votes should be well thought out.pieguy1372 wrote:
wait so when you get a reason for voting someone you instead FoS and continue without a vote? dafuq, can you explain this plzNoHitter wrote:
I think this could be interpreted as a "nightkill".
FoS: Sephibro
vote: NoHItter
mb NH + Sephibro team here? it seems likely NH was afraid of people wagoning on Sephibro o.o
We still have more than a week to decide who we vote for. Why are you so jumpy?pieguy1372 wrote:
oh god Irre did the same thing. and rEdo FoS'ed while keeping his RVS vote. why aren't you all voting outside RVS ;w;
OK then. Let's say we do follow your plan and NL.Sephibro wrote:
I never said i want a massclaim, quite the opposite: i want to AVOID a massclaim, which would happen if we try to random lynch as we're doing.
I'll explain better. Let's say someone gets pressured hard and is put in L-2; at this point he will claim his role, and two things can happen:
1. best case scenario: someone comes out claiming the same role. One of them two is scum
2. nobody else claims the same role: if that person claimed something credible, we'll vote another person, who will claim and so on
A accuses B of being scum by a Night Action. B explains it because of a very credible reason.
What's next? Do we NL again? Do we lynch randomly?
I'll surely mess up if I quote the stuff above, but what I wanna say is:
Because it's still early?
We still have more than a week to decide who we vote for.
Why are you so jumpy?
Do we lynch randomly?
These are things NoHitter just said in the text above, and shows a kinda nervous manner, imo. But I 100% agree with "Votes should be well thought out. ", that's how I wanna work as well - unfortunately I got judged by that last time.
Because it's still early?
We still have more than a week to decide who we vote for.
Why are you so jumpy?
Do we lynch randomly?
These are things NoHitter just said in the text above, and shows a kinda nervous manner, imo. But I 100% agree with "Votes should be well thought out. ", that's how I wanna work as well - unfortunately I got judged by that last time.
What do you mean by nervous manner?Irreversible wrote:
I'll surely mess up if I quote the stuff above, but what I wanna say is:
Because it's still early?
We still have more than a week to decide who we vote for.
Why are you so jumpy?
Do we lynch randomly?
These are things NoHitter just said in the text above, and shows a kinda nervous manner, imo. But I 100% agree with "Votes should be well thought out. ", that's how I wanna work as well - unfortunately I got judged by that last time.
Also, you kind of removed the last quote out of context. It was addressed to Sephibro, not pieguy.
At that point 1 among A and B is scum, so we have 50% chance of lynching scum, and we'll not have a massclaim (which is what probably would happen in case we decide to random lynch d1, since each role is unique).NoHitter wrote:
OK then. Let's say we do follow your plan and NL.
A accuses B of being scum by a Night Action. B explains it because of a very credible reason.
What's next? Do we NL again? Do we lynch randomly?
Btw if you want the random lynch d1, be aware that it will probably cause a massclaim
because probably we have at least one investigation roleDakeDekaane wrote:
Why would you want to gather possible PR info?
rEdo wrote:
that's not only the point, we will also see the associations between people - somebody's defending somebody else, who's offensive against who and such - with this we could deduce a potential scum combo, and that's the point of this game, isn't it? massclaiming is not a way to avoid that, I don't know why you even associate these things with each other.
again, if you want to lynch d1 we better vote early, since we may have to vote for 12 people and to listen to 12 claims. Do you think it will take less than 6 days?NoHitter wrote:
Because it's still early? I can see the merit of pressure votes, but I'm not one to vote quickly unless we have sure information. Votes should be well thought out.
Hint: don't FoS me, vote me instead if you really have a suspect
Except that's not always the case. What if there's a miller or framer?Sephibro wrote:
At that point 1 among A and B is scum, so we have 50% chance of lynching scum, and we'll not have a massclaim
How are you sure that each role is unique? The mod hasn't said anything about this being role madness.Sephibro wrote:
(which is what probably would happen in case we decide to random lynch d1, since each role is unique).
Since when did a D1 random lynch equate to a D1 massclaim? You assume that people will stop voting a claimed person right away, but that isn't always the case.Sephibro wrote:
Btw if you want the random lynch d1, be aware that it will probably cause a massclaim
In the first place were not random lynching anyway. We're lynching based on how suspicious someone is.
And what do you have to gain by provoking people into voting you?Sephibro wrote:
Hint: don't FoS me, vote me instead if you really have a suspect
BTW, the deadline is on the 19th. That's roughly 12 days from now - not 6.
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Can I ask why you voted me?Sakura wrote:
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I appreciate Sakura's vote on NH much more than NH's and rEdo's FoSs on me. Since everybody except me seems very willing to see somebody lynched D1, let this pressure marathon begin
PS. Welcome Rantai!
Sephibro wrote:
again, if you want to lynch d1 we better vote early, since we may have to vote for 12 people and to listen to 12 claims. Do you think it will take less than 12 days?
5.5) This set-up is not bastard, and therefore has none of the following: Alignment-Changing Roles or Abilities, Jesters, Cults, Misleading Roles, Unknown Role Modifiers, etc.NoHitter wrote:
Except that's not always the case. What if there's a miller or framer?
I hope this is a joke, since every role is an anime character, do you expect being more than 1 Furude Rika, for example?NoHitter wrote:
How are you sure that each role is unique? The mod hasn't said anything about this being role madness.
it doesn't equate to a massclaim, but most likely it would lead to a massclaim since each role is unique.NoHitter wrote:
Since when did a D1 random lynch equate to a D1 massclaim?
I appreciate Sakura's vote on NH much more than NH's and rEdo's FoSs on me. Since everybody except me seems very willing to see somebody lynched D1, let this pressure marathon begin
PS. Welcome Rantai!
Point conceded.Sephibro wrote:
5.5) This set-up is not bastard, and therefore has none of the following: Alignment-Changing Roles or Abilities, Jesters, Cults, Misleading Roles, Unknown Role Modifiers, etc.NoHitter wrote:
Except that's not always the case. What if there's a miller or framer?
Yes each CHARACTER may be unique, but what's to say that the ABILITIES assigned to a character is NOT unique.Sephibro wrote:
I hope this is a joke, since every role is an anime character, do you expect being more than 1 Furude Rika, for example?NoHitter wrote:
How are you sure that each role is unique? The mod hasn't said anything about this being role madness.
e.g. Rika and Rena both being Vanilla
You assumed that each of the characters will have unique roles when we didn't know if there were repetition of roles.
with "role" i actually mean "character"
and i have all the reasons to think that each character has different abilities from the others, so calling it "role" is still correct
and i have all the reasons to think that each character has different abilities from the others, so calling it "role" is still correct
Oh well, I see, but by nervous manner i simply mean that you kinda focus on 'early' and that votes go 'jumpy', are you worried that it hits you?NoHitter wrote:
What do you mean by nervous manner?Irreversible wrote:
I'll surely mess up if I quote the stuff above, but what I wanna say is:
Because it's still early?
We still have more than a week to decide who we vote for.
Why are you so jumpy?
Do we lynch randomly?
These are things NoHitter just said in the text above, and shows a kinda nervous manner, imo. But I 100% agree with "Votes should be well thought out. ", that's how I wanna work as well - unfortunately I got judged by that last time.
Also, you kind of removed the last quote out of context. It was addressed to Sephibro, not pieguy.
this is not townlike, people taught me, why would you want people to vote you?Sephibro wrote:
Hint: don't FoS me, vote me instead if you really have a suspect
@Sakura: What a reaction test.. xD
Hi guys, 3:30 am right now, will read up tomorrow.
good morning *o* lol. xD
i'm not asking people to vote me, it would be very retarded, i'm just telling how i think they should playIrreversible wrote:
this is not townlike, people taught me, why would you want people to vote you?
Btw as we saw in vengeful mafia, if we reach deadline and lynch random, most likely we lynch town (i didn't make this observation there because i was mafia, and in fact we won D1). So this is how we should play imo:
- No Lynch d1, but most of you don't like this choice
- Pressure somebody ASAP, NoHitter is the best one atm
Also, i would like BRBP, DakeDekaane, Blue Yoshi and Zexion_Vi to be more involved in the discussion
Nice oneSephibro wrote:
because probably we have at least one investigation roleDakeDekaane wrote:
Why would you want to gather possible PR info?
Both of you are just talking about useless stuff, most of them is setup speculation, which helps no one but scum, though my vote on Sephibro was RV, I won't move it because I got a scum-read on him.
I also disagree on No-Lynch, even if scum cannot perform a NK, the HS of some people will go up, and it's possible we can lose more than a single townie in a single night, due this, we also should be careful on who we lynch.
IMO no lynch is like one of the worst things you can do
I'll never forget in Touhou PyP IV everyone NL'ed on the first day and then they had no idea what to do on the next day. then the same thing happened in Mystery Mafia. any lynch at least gives us info in the form of a flip. even if we lynch a PR, the benefit the info gains should help us scumhunt enough to outweigh it.
also, how will lynching someone on D1 lead to a massclaim? as far as I can remember what usually happens is someone gets lynched when their claim isn't believable or is weak, so not everyone claims.
also you all should join my game ;w;
I'll never forget in Touhou PyP IV everyone NL'ed on the first day and then they had no idea what to do on the next day. then the same thing happened in Mystery Mafia. any lynch at least gives us info in the form of a flip. even if we lynch a PR, the benefit the info gains should help us scumhunt enough to outweigh it.
also, how will lynching someone on D1 lead to a massclaim? as far as I can remember what usually happens is someone gets lynched when their claim isn't believable or is weak, so not everyone claims.
and just how do you expect to get sure information on D1?NoHItter wrote:
Because it's still early? I can see the merit of pressure votes, but I'm not one to vote quickly unless we have sure information. Votes should be well thought out.
last time people said this was in Touhou PyP IV and in the end everyone had a PR. so I don't think it even matters if the mod said it was role madness or not. then again it was my game so >< Honestly I'm thinking everyone has a PR of some sort, similarly to Touhou IV.NoHItter wrote:
How are you sure that each role is unique? The mod hasn't said anything about this being role madness.
why can't I change my vote till then? and how am I being "jumpy"?NoHItter wrote:
We still have more than a week to decide who we vote for. Why are you so jumpy?
you'll see if people decide to do something (and with doing something i mean pressuring someone, NH in this case)pieguy1372 wrote:
also, how will lynching someone on D1 lead to a massclaim?
here we go:pieguy1372 wrote:
last time people said this was in Touhou PyP IV and in the end everyone had a PR. so I don't think it even matters if the mod said it was role madness or not. then again it was my game so >< Honestly I'm thinking everyone has a PR of some sort, similarly to Touhou IV.
@mod:
1. each character has at least one ability or passive, am i right?
2. does each character have both passive and active ability?
3. does every character have 2 personal abilities or not? are there some with less? are there some with more?
Please answer all the questions you can
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1. Correct.Sephibro wrote:
@mod:
1. each character has at least one ability or passive, am i right?
2. does each character have both passive and active ability?
3. does every character have 2 personal abilities or not? are there some with less? are there some with more?
Please answer all the questions you can
2. I cannot answer this question.
3. I cannot answer this question.
thank you caligno, that's enough
as you can see i was right NH
as you can see i was right NH
you'll see if people decide to do something (and with doing something i mean pressuring someone, NH in this case)so if we do something it'll lead to a massclaim, which is bad?
by that logic, we shouldn't do anything, for fear of a massclaim
how are we supposed to find the mafia then? waiting around for who knows how long for an investigative role which may or may not even exist isn't very effective
what you're implying is that we'd run each individual person up to L - 1 and then they all claim and we don't lynch them in the end, right? who said we can't lynch people who claim?