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Higurashi Mafia - Game Over!

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Amianki
NOTE: Beware of spoilers

June 1983

The Watanagashi Festival is coming once again. The string of murders on this night for the past four years is fully expected to happen once again. The people of Hinamizawa are not satisfied with allowing this to continue further and are willing to do what has to be done in order to stop Oyashiro-sama's curse once and for all.

However, there are those who have other goals. Only those who have the courage to fight for their destiny will be able to overcome the curse.

Can fate be changed? Or will this Watanagashi Festival be the most catastrophic one yet?


Moderator: CalignoBot
Backup/Co-Moderator: Jinxy

Possible Character List: Yoink

Player List (Bolded is confirmed) (Asterisks indicate a prod)
1. pieguy1372
2. NoHitter
3. fartownik
4. Rantai - Raging Bull
5. BRBP
6. Sakura
7. Sephibro
8. Irreversible
9. rEdo
10. GuyInFreezer - Blue Yoshi
11. Disrespect - Zexion
12. DakeDekaane

Replacements:

Alive (1/12)
1. Sakura



Dead (11/12)
1. rEdo, Shion Sonozaki, Innocent Hinamizawan, Lynched Day 1
2. Disrespect, Jirou Tomitake, Innocent Hinamizawan turned Neutral Survivor, Modkilled Day 2.
3. Irreversible, Kuraudo Ooishi, Innocent Hinamizawan, has committed suicide Night 2.
4. pieguy1372, Rena Ryuuguu, Oyashiro Supporter, has been lynched Day 3.
5. BRBP, Satoko Houjou, Innocent Hinamizawan has committed suicide Night 3.
6. Rantai, Miyo Takano, Oyashiro Supporter, has been lynched Day 4.
7. GuyInFreezer, Oryou Sonozaki, Innocent Hinamizawan has committed suicide Night 4.
8. DakeDekaane, Kyousuke Irie, Innocent Hinamizawan, has been lynched Day 5.
9. Sephibro, Rika Furude, Innocent Hinamizawan turned Neutral Survivor, Modkilled Day 6.
10. NoHitter, Satoshi Houjou, Oyashiro Supporter, has been lynched Day 6.
11. fartownik, Mion Sonozaki, Innocent Hinamizawan, has committed suicide Day 6 and won.


Topic Starter
Amianki
Game Rules

General
1.1) All site rules apply. Be familiar with them before playing.
1.2) Unless your role PM says otherwise, you are not allowed to talk about the game outside of the thread.
1.3) Quoting any PM from the moderator will result in a modkill. Paraphrasing is usually acceptable.
1.4) This is a game and strong language/tones are possible. As long as it remains civil, it is acceptable. Personal grudges or harassment (sexist, homophobic, racist, etc.) is not acceptable. The first offense will result in a warning, while the second will result in a force replace.

Game Mechanics
2.1) All votes must be bolded. Votes without this format will be ignored.
2.2) Votes within quote or spoiler tags will be ignored.
2.3) It is recommended to use a player's full name for votes, but it is acceptable to shorten it as long as it doesn't cause confusion. Any ambiguous votes will be ignored.
2.4) Unvoting is recommended for changing your vote, but not required. The exceptions are when you aren't placing another vote or if you have a double voting ability.
2.5) A lynch will be achieved when 50%+1 of the player list has their vote on a single person. Once that threshold is reached, the game enters twilight and no more votes will count for the day. No lynch votes require only 50% of the player list to go through.
2.6) You are allowed a single post in the thread once you are dead. This post must not contain any game-relevant information.

Activity and Deadlines
3.1) Do your best to stay active. This game is a commitment.
3.2) If you do not post in the thread for 24 hours, you are eligable for a prod PM. Players may request a prod if another player hasn't posted in that time.
3.3) If a player has to be prodded 3 times in a day, or 4 times total across the game, they may be force-replaced.
3.4) Players have 24 hours after recieving a prod to open the PM. After this threshold has passed, I will begin looking for a replacement.
3.5) If you will be gone for an extended period of time, you may post your V/LA in bold. The Prod Timer will be ignored for the duration and will be reset once it is over. V/LAs should not be longer than half of a day phase if you will have no access.
3.6) If you have to be gone for a significant amount of time, you will most likely be replaced. Finding your own replacement is appreciated, but not strictly required.
3.7) Deadlines will be 14 days for each day, but reduced down to 7 days if the game reaches day four.
3.8) Nights will have a 48 hour deadline. Failure to submit an action will result in you doing nothing for the night.
3.9) Deadlines for both day and night may be extended depending on the circumstances. While night deadlines will only be extended due to replacement issues, day deadlines are more flexible. Replacements are most likely to be the cause of a day's deadline extending, but aren't necessarily the only possible cause.

Miscellaneous
4.1) Do not post in green. This is the moderator's color. Any other color is fair game as long as it doesn't detract from the game's readability.
4.2) I will do my best to post vote counts at least once a day. Depending on the activity level, I will post vote counts either more or less often. If you request a vote count, I will provide one at the next opportunity.
4.3) Do not post cryptography, codes, invisible text, or small text.
4.4) Editing your post is grounds for an immediate modkill. Don't do it.
4.5) All story flavor is completely game-irrelevant.
4.7) If a vote count is incorrect, let me know and I'll correct it when I have time.
4.8) Feel free to PM me if something in the game or ruleset is unclear.
4.9) Loopholes do not exist. Use common sense. If something sounds like it would be against the rules and isn't listed here, chances are you will still be punished for it. See rule 4.8 if you're unsure.
4.10) I reserve the right to modify the ruleset as needed. If this happens, you will be notified in thread.

Game-Specific Information
5.1) Everyone has a certain Hizamizawa Syndrome (HS) level. This stat goes from 1-5 and begins at 2.
5.2) Everyone is made aware of their current HS level at the start of each night; each night and next day action will operate off of this value. If this value is 5, they will commit suicide at the end of the night.
5.3) Due to the nature of the roles, only the character name and alignment will be revealed upon death.
5.4) The mafia do not get a standard mafia kill. Instead, they have the ability to increase the HS level of multiple people.
5.5) This set-up is not bastard, and therefore has none of the following: Alignment-Changing Roles or Abilities, Jesters, Cults, Misleading Roles, Unknown Role Modifiers, etc.

A sample town Role PM is below:

Random Person

You are a random person who just happens to live in Hinamizawa. You have no real significance to what is going on, so you're actually pretty boring. Oh well.

Alignment: Innocent Hinamizawans

Personal Abilities:
[P] - Boring Person - You are so boring, and clearly no one else can handle it. Anyone who visits you at night will die.
[D][A] - Opinions - During the day, you can stack seven votes onto one person.
[N][A] - Apocalypse - HS = 5 - You are on the verge of insanity. Before you die, you may proclaim that the apocalypse is coming. If you do so, the game will end upon your suicide.

You win when the Oyashiro Supporters are eliminated.
Key:

[P] - Passive
[A] - Ability
[D] - Day Phase
[N] - Night Phase
Rantai
I'll replace if needed.
Sephibro
nice, i'm in
Irreversible
in D:
Sakura
confirming pre-in
rEdo
Higurashi? in without a doubt~
Blue Yoshi_old
Might as well :3
pieguyn
give me mafia this time plz :P
Irreversible
vengekill pieguy :) xD lol
Raging Bull
pieguy obvious mafia.
Zexion
I would like to join, but this would be my first time playing this kind of game. I don't understand the game mechanics too well... but if you guys could explain me, then I would have no troubles :D
Topic Starter
Amianki
Be aware that this is a fairly complex mafia game compared to normal set-ups. It's not very easy to learn the game from one like this.

Either way, I will not be ending sign-ups until I hear from Tsukasa about his pre-in slot.
Irreversible
i'll be lynch no. 1 anyway, I can feel it
Sephibro
Irre best lynchbait EU :)
Irreversible
i'm sure you're all mafia against me (town)
Topic Starter
Amianki
If Tsukasa doesn't confirm pre-in and/or respond by the time I check in after work tomorrow, I will look for a new sign-up.
Topic Starter
Amianki
Tsukasa's spot is now open for another sign-up.
DakeDekaane
Taking that spot
/in <:
Sephibro
yay welcome dake :)

Btw, are we sure farto is in too?
Topic Starter
Amianki
fartownik expressed interest in retaining the pre-in fairly recently. If he ends up not picking up his PM within two days or so, I'll replace him.
Topic Starter
Amianki
NOTE: Please do not post confirmations in the thread until all the roles are out. This is to prevent any possible metagaming as each PM must be sent separately.

Edited out the double posting part of this post. I'm not sure how that happened.
Topic Starter
Amianki
All roles are distributed. Confirmations may begin. The game will begin once 10/12 people have confirmed.
Sephibro
Confirm
Raging Bull
confirm, though i didn't read it yet \:D/
pieguyn
conf
Sakura
Confirm
Blue Yoshi_old
did not receive pm
Topic Starter
Amianki
Fixed. I missed the space in your name the first time.
Blue Yoshi_old
confirm
remember "blueyoshi" is a user that hasn't been active for 3 months
DakeDekaane
Confirm \:D/
rEdo
confirming~
VoidnOwO
conf
Zexion
Confirmin'
Irreversible
confirmed
fartownik
Confirm.
Topic Starter
Amianki
11 out of 12 have confirmed. NoHitter has 48 hours to pick up his role PM.

---

June 14, 1983

I have finally arrived in Hinamizawa. The locals have been welcoming, which was a surprise after what I had heard. The festival is in five days, but there is an unexplained tension in the air. It makes me uncomfortable. i want to get this assignment done and get out as fast as I can.

I don't trust this place.


It is now Day 1. With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch.
Deadline is 10/19 at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6)
Sephibro
vote: fartownik :)
rEdo
Vote: Irreversible
GUT FEELING
Irreversible
lol redo xDDD
I can remember my first mafia game, i wrote 'I can feel he's mafia'
Guess what, I WAS LYNCH DAY 1

Vote: BRBP
Raging Bull
vote:pieguy


I can feel he's mafia gut feeling
Raging Bull
aw shit rEdo did the joke already
fartownik
Vote: Sephibro
DakeDekaane
Vote: Sephibro

Absolutely not sheeping <:
NoHitter
Confirm and let's go.

Mod: What happens when there is no majority when the deadline is reached? Does a prulality lynch occur or no lynch?

Vote: DakeDekaane
For absolutely not sheeping
Sephibro
On a second thought, it is against statistics that farto is scum on 3/3 games played with me and i spot him everytime. At least, if he's scum this time too, i should leave him alone :)

unvote, vote: NoHitter welcome :)
Irreversible
Wait, what the f-. this was really anti-town, if he's scum he should get eliminated, or why the hell would you 'leave him alone'?

FoS: Sephibro

Unvote
Sephibro
That was a joke :)
Zexion
Vote: RagingBull
Irreversible
We'll see if it really was a joke or not.
rEdo
Irreversible going so aggressive right off the bat, huh
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 1.01

Be careful of needles in your ohagi.

[2] Sephibro -- fartownik, DakeDekaane (L-5)
[1] Irreversible -- rEdo
[1] pieguy1372 -- Raging Bull
[1] DakeDekaane -- NoHitter
[1] NoHitter -- Sephibro
[1] Raging Bull -- Zexion_Vi

[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] BRBP --
[0] fartownik --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Sakura --
[0] Zexion_Vi --

Not Voting -- Irreversible, pieguy1372, BRBP, Sakura, Blue Yoshi,
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.

NoHitter wrote:

Mod: What happens when there is no majority when the deadline is reached? Does a prulality lynch occur or no lynch?
If at least one person is at L-1, they will be lynched. Otherwise, no lynch will occur. This is to give some leeway while also requiring at least some form of consensus.
Irreversible
no, i'm not a BAT :c k bad joke

mh, there hasn't been much said yet and i just take the things they offer me :3 but i wasn't that agressive, if I was, i'd have voted him.
pieguyn
vote: BRBP
don't sheep me during confirmation phase plz :P
VoidnOwO
:)
fartownik
Unvote
Vote: BRBP
Blue Yoshi_old
Mion? Is that you?
Blue Yoshi_old
Vote: Sakura
Now do an actual thing.
Raging Bull

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Mion? Is that you?

What does that mean?
DakeDekaane
Someone is role-fishing :P
fartownik
Someone is nutpicking to a doubtful rolefishing.
Raging Bull
Well I'm rather curious what he meant by "Mion, is that you" and then the vote on Sakura "Now do an actual thing"
Irreversible
Mion seems like an anime character, but yeah, i'm wondering too
VoidnOwO
:)
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 1.02

Don't follow boys with bats home.

[2] BRBP -- pieguy1372, fartownik (L-5)
[1] Sephibro -- DakeDekaane
[1] Irreversible -- rEdo
[1] pieguy1372 -- Raging Bull
[1] DakeDekaane -- NoHitter
[1] NoHitter -- Sephibro
[1] Raging Bull -- Zexion_Vi
[1] fartownik -- BRBP
[1] Sakura -- BlueYoshi

[0] Blue Yoshi --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion_Vi --

Not Voting -- Irreversible, Sakura
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.

CalignoBot in the Mod Queue Topic wrote:

3. All characters from this list are fair game, and anyone not familiar with the fandom are encouraged to look here instead of the fandom's wiki for information on the characters in order to avoid spoilers
This will be placed in the opening post to reduce further confusion about character names.
Raging Bull
Mion is a character in the show. I don't know if he has a role that needs to look for his sister.
pieguyn

fartownik wrote:

Unvote
Vote: BRBP
are you sheeping me or OMGUS'ing?
or something else :P

BRBP wrote:

You're scumpainting me again ;___;
except every time I've pushed for a lynch on you you've been mafia, so obviously you're mafia this time too \:D/

k serious time

Raging Bull wrote:

Mion is a character in the show. I don't know if he has a role that needs to look for his sister.
what are you trying to accomplish by asking about Yoshi's role?
Irreversible
We also have OMGUS by farto, as far as I got that right
Raging Bull

pieguy1372 wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Mion is a character in the show. I don't know if he has a role that needs to look for his sister.
what are you trying to accomplish by asking about Yoshi's role?
Possible third party is involved?
NoHitter
So is RVS finally over?
Unvote

Raging Bull wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:
Mion is a character in the show. I don't know if he has a role that needs to look for his sister.
what are you trying to accomplish by asking about Yoshi's role?
Possible third party is involved?
Wait what? Wasn't Blue Yoshi the one that was "rolefishing" for Mion by saying:

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Mion? Is that you?
pieguyn

NoHitter wrote:

Wait what? Wasn't Blue Yoshi the one that was "rolefishing" for Mion by saying:

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Mion? Is that you?
that's rolefishing? 0.0 I thought rolefishing was trying to figure out a specific role in the game. though Yoshi was looking for a certain character so I guess you're right orz

btw, I have a scumread on you. discuss :>
NoHitter

pieguy1372 wrote:

btw, I have a scumread on you. discuss :>
Why?
pieguyn
cause you always like to suggest large-scale strategies such as suggesting massclaim, nameclaim, PR or not claim, and so forth, generally on the first few posts of the game

you've made two posts at this point without doing anything like that :>
NoHitter
I don't always suggest a plan like that though.
pieguyn
The Mafia Restoration Project - suggests follow the cop immediately
Stacking the Deck - asks people to claim if they're a PR or not on the first post
Touhou PyP IV - asks for massclaim

I forgot most of what I know from all the games before I reappeared, but afaik in Touhou PyP II you were mafia and didn't suggest anything besides confirming with the mod when the flip happens. but, I forgot most of the other games so I might be biased = =
NoHitter
Try looking at my older games.
Sakura
Vote: Blue Yoshi
Raging Bull
Sorry my computer broke. I will still play but might be hard for me with phone only
Sephibro
Since most of us know the anime characters, we can make pretty accurate setup speculation. Why aren't we doing this already?

Furude Rika
Sonozaki Mion
Sonozaki Shion
Ryuuguu Rena
Hojou Satoko
Maebara Keiichi

^These characters are for sure in the game and they should be all town aligned (6/12)

Irie Kyousuke
Ooishi Kuraudo

^These two should be in the game, town-aligned, and their powers should be respectively doctor-like and cop-like (8/12)

Takano Miyo
Tomitake Jirou

^These two should be in the game too and they should be scum (Takano Miyo could be something like a godfather with some huge powers) (10/12)

2 more spots, i think there must be 1 more Oyashiro supporter, to be honest it could be Irie Kyousuke too.
Remaining characters are taken among these ones (I'll order from the most to the least probable):

Sonozaki Oryou there could be a "Sonozaki Family" faction too, i think we shouldn't understimate this.
Chie Rumiko town-aligned, she's the teacher so idk what role couild it be
Akasaka Mamoru town-aligned, cop-like
Kasai Tatsuyoshi town-aligned (or Sonozaki-aligned), bodyguard-like
Hojou Teppei third party, he could be a lyncher with the objective to lynch Hojou Satoko
Mamiya Rina third party, she and Hojou Teppei could be lovers
Sonozaki Akane if there's "Sonozaki Family" faction, she's in
Hojou Satoshi useless but would be town-aligned


We must consider this too: there could be characters that change their alignment when they increase Hinamizawa Syndrome level (HS)

Oh and regarding this
5.4) The mafia do not get a standard mafia kill. Instead, they have the ability to increase the HS level of multiple people.
I think that ending D1 without lynch could be a very good choice :)
Blue Yoshi_old

Sakura wrote:

Vote: Blue Yoshi
Explain por favor.
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

Since most of us know the anime characters, we can make pretty accurate setup speculation. Why aren't we doing this already?

Furude Rika
Sonozaki Mion
Sonozaki Shion
Ryuuguu Rena
Hojou Satoko
Maebara Keiichi

^These characters are for sure in the game and they should be all town aligned (6/12)

Irie Kyousuke
Ooishi Kuraudo

^These two should be in the game, town-aligned, and their powers should be respectively doctor-like and cop-like (8/12)

Takano Miyo
Tomitake Jirou

^These two should be in the game too and they should be scum (Takano Miyo could be something like a godfather with some huge powers) (10/12)

2 more spots, i think there must be 1 more Oyashiro supporter, to be honest it could be Irie Kyousuke too.
Remaining characters are taken among these ones (I'll order from the most to the least probable):

Sonozaki Oryou there could be a "Sonozaki Family" faction too, i think we shouldn't understimate this.
Chie Rumiko town-aligned, she's the teacher so idk what role couild it be
Akasaka Mamoru town-aligned, cop-like
Kasai Tatsuyoshi town-aligned (or Sonozaki-aligned), bodyguard-like
Hojou Teppei third party, he could be a lyncher with the objective to lynch Hojou Satoko
Mamiya Rina third party, she and Hojou Teppei could be lovers
Sonozaki Akane if there's "Sonozaki Family" faction, she's in
Hojou Satoshi useless but would be town-aligned


We must consider this too: there could be characters that change their alignment when they increase Hinamizawa Syndrome level (HS)

Oh and regarding this
5.4) The mafia do not get a standard mafia kill. Instead, they have the ability to increase the HS level of multiple people.
I think that ending D1 without lynch could be a very good choice :)
For Christ sake
4.5) All story flavor is completely game-irrelevant.
Sephibro
fcuk my life


:)
fartownik
Also nolynching today is no better than lynching. If we nolynch we will end up with the same stuff as D1 + potential PR information. Nolynching is always a day lost without trying to hunt scum, proposing nolynch at such early stage of the day is scummy.
Sephibro
On a second thought, my opinion is still that roles have something to do with anime, it can't be only the name. I mean, if there's a cop it's probably Ooishi, if there's a doctor it's Irie Kyousuke, and so on

fartownik wrote:

Also nolynching today is no better than lynching. If we nolynch we will end up with the same stuff as D1 + potential PR information. Nolynching is always a day lost without trying to hunt scum, proposing nolynch at such early stage of the day is scummy.
same stuff as D1 + potential PR information
+ potential PR information

and no nightkill

we're 12, scum are probably 3. the chance of getting a fundamental PR lynched is too damn high
NoHitter

Sephibro wrote:

On a second thought, my opinion is still that roles have something to do with anime, it can't be only the name. I mean, if there's a cop it's probably Ooishi, if there's a doctor it's Irie Kyousuke, and so on

fartownik wrote:

Also nolynching today is no better than lynching. If we nolynch we will end up with the same stuff as D1 + potential PR information. Nolynching is always a day lost without trying to hunt scum, proposing nolynch at such early stage of the day is scummy.
same stuff as D1 + potential PR information
+ potential PR information

and no nightkill

we're 12, scum are probably 3. the chance of getting a fundamental PR lynched is too damn high
Why do you think no nightkill will occur?

Game Specific Info wrote:

Everyone has a certain Hizamizawa Syndrome (HS) level. This stat goes from 1-5 and begins at 2.
If this value is 5, they will commit suicide at the end of the night.
The mafia do not get a standard mafia kill. Instead, they have the ability to increase the HS level of multiple people.
I think this could be interpreted as a "nightkill".

FoS: Sephibro
fartownik
If there's 3 scum then most likely every one of them has the ability to increase the HS by 1, everyone starts with 2 so it's possible there will be a nightkill. But this is setup speculation, nothing really useful, there might be only 2 scum as well.
fartownik
Unvote
Vote: Sephibro

After thinking, this is good. I've never found the "No lynch because afraid of losing a strong PR" argument useful.
Sephibro
the nightkill only occours when someone reaches 5 HS, I don't think that someone can reach such a high value on n1 only
Sephibro

fartownik wrote:

If there's 3 scum then most likely every one of them has the ability to increase the HS by 1, everyone starts with 2 so it's possible there will be a nightkill. But this is setup speculation, nothing really useful, there might be only 2 scum as well.
I didn't read this one, you might be right

And tbh, i still think NoLynch is a good strategy for d1 in a game like this. Well, unless you want everyone to claim d1
DakeDekaane
Why would you want to gather possible PR info? :roll:
rEdo

Sephibro wrote:

And tbh, i still think NoLynch is a good strategy for d1 in a game like this. Well, unless you want everyone to claim d1
mind to elaborate why do you think this is a good strategy? nevermind, you did that earlier. so what if we don't lynch anyone today? we also won't get to know ANYTHING from it, while the HS levels increase. we won't gain much by massclaiming either.

holy shit I just ended up typing the same stuff as farto did, AGAIN

FACK YOU STOP READING MY MIND WHILE I'M READING THE TOPIC AND RESPONDING TO THEM POSTS RESPECTIVELY IN ORDER

Sephibro wrote:

the nightkill only occours when someone reaches 5 HS, I don't think that someone can reach such a high value on n1 only
the game would we way too slow if scum couldn't add up less than 3 HS points, actually I believe it's more.

FoS: Sephibro
Irreversible

rEdo wrote:

the game would we way too slow if scum couldn't add up less than 3 HS points, actually I believe it's more.
orly, somehow i think you don't just believe it, either you know it or so.

FoS: rEdo

Mh, I'll look through everything again tomorrow, i'm currently not at home
rEdo

Irreversible wrote:

orly, somehow i think you don't just believe it, either you know it or so.

FoS: rEdo
there's no deeper thought behind it, it's just common sense that the game would be way too slow if scum could add like 2-3 points every night, providing there are roles that can also undo HS.
Zexion
Well so far as any D1 I don't have clues. I kinda agree with rEdo but not too much either, otherwise it would be too easy for the scum to kill townies. So maybe they get, I don't know, 4 points to increase HS meters? 5 or 6 would be too much (they could easily kill two towns every night) Of course I am just speculating but I'll guess that we'll see how does it works on the first night. Even thought there may be some roles which decrease HS, they have no way of knowing which players have a high HS so it isn't that effective either. (At least not on the early parts of the game)
Sephibro

rEdo wrote:

we won't gain much by massclaiming either.
I never said i want a massclaim, quite the opposite: i want to AVOID a massclaim, which would happen if we try to random lynch as we're doing.
I'll explain better. Let's say someone gets pressured hard and is put in L-2; at this point he will claim his role, and two things can happen:
1. best case scenario: someone comes out claiming the same role. One of them two is scum
2. nobody else claims the same role: if that person claimed something credible, we'll vote another person, who will claim and so on

Please use brain, i never say things without thinking if they are good or not, and having to explain everything makes strategies not to work anymore
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