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pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

So I'll just go off the Yuno wagon (damnit fart)

pieguy, what was your reason for voting Yuno? You seem to said Jester seems common in LS games yet you still voted for him despite his behavior where it seems like he really wanted to be lynched.
I never said a jester was common, I just said there was a good chance for there to be a jester

anyway, I voted him just cause he was being so counter-productive for town
Royston

Raging Bull wrote:

how the hell royston did you use that translator? Or you somehow really decoded that
yup I decoded it using this website, it took a lot longer than I'm willing to admit
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Man, designing these hints from scratch is a bit more difficult. I have to be careful not to mess it up... I might still have, but oh well. Ack why am I putting in effort.

2-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
Rantai
Wow that was pretty impressive Royston I gave up after a while ;_;

Also I'd think he wasn't modkilled due to the super secret end game stuff LS is hinting at.
Raging Bull
@pieguy, okay then I'll give you that, especially since it was d1. I just think that if someone is acting counter productive (like oh god so serious) I don't really think they would have been mafia at all.
Royston
Well, I'm not sure how far away the deadline is, but here we go

Vote:Lilac

still hasn't posted anything to make me reconsider my position
Knarf
Where's Tsukasa?
Not posting for almost a week.
Vote: Tsukasa
Lilac
You had no position to begin with, Royston.

Vote: farto. More than convinced that the charade of his on D1 was completely misleading and caused more panic for town than it should. It was also stupid, like half the questions you asked.
Royston

Lilac wrote:

You had no position to begin with, Royston.
This has been, and remains my posistion.
I assume that their are more Town-aligned players than non-Town players in the general pool - that's a fairly safe assumption in my opinion. However, the chance of ??? being town-aligned? It's possible but it could just as easily be scum-aligned or a neutral party. Therefore, if I were to vote ??? I'd say the odds of that helping town would be greater than lynching someone at random.
pieguyn
prod: NoHItter, DakeDekaane, Tsukasa, BRBP, fartownik, rEdo
fk this is ridiculous
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

pieguy1372 wrote:

prod: NoHItter, DakeDekaane, Tsukasa, BRBP, fartownik, rEdo
fk this is ridiculous
Assorted people have been prodded.

Fartownik is not eligable for a prod at this moment.
Rantai
Vote: DD - reasons given if you read back.

I think I agree and disagree with you there Royston. I would speculate that he isn't town or scum (unless scum suddenly got a member who was publicly announced, which makes little sense). Town is more likely than scum but I am leaning heavily third party due to the nature of the arrival.

But being an LS game whatever I speculate is wrong, generally. ;~;
Rantai
As an added note, third parties could swing either way, so it's more of a 50/50 than beneficial.
DakeDekaane

LadySuburu wrote:

3-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
Royston, could you?

I got a vote, yay me. I doubt we're going anywhere like this, I'm staying on Tsukasa not because inactivity, but lack of content.

Also, hi Lilac~
NoHitter
Responding to prod.

@Deka
I'm pretty sure Tsukasa is innocent. So please unvote him.
Royston
Royston, could you?
no
Lilac

Royston wrote:

Lilac wrote:

You had no position to begin with, Royston.
This has been, and remains my posistion.
I assume that their are more Town-aligned players than non-Town players in the general pool - that's a fairly safe assumption in my opinion. However, the chance of ??? being town-aligned? It's possible but it could just as easily be scum-aligned or a neutral party. Therefore, if I were to vote ??? I'd say the odds of that helping town would be greater than lynching someone at random.
No it hasn't. If it has, you wouldn't have waited for me to say anything and would have voted for me in the first place. Your voting, reasoning and position is flawed or you're just confused.
Royston
Well, yeah, I refrained because I thought you'd give some sort of information regarding why you were hidden D1
Raging Bull
I think Lilac probably has a game changing role if lynched. I don't knwo why else would he be introduced D2.
pieguyn
mb it has something to do with Yuno's "conditional saulus", it happened the day after he got lynched
people who try to make saulus work sometimes force replace the person when they switch alignment. but Yuno is gone now so that's probably not it orz
Lilac

Royston wrote:

Well, yeah, I refrained because I thought you'd give some sort of information regarding why you were hidden D1
What reason would there be?

I'm a Lightning Rod PGO restricted to come late to the game because I could have wiped out most of town D1? Come on, what were you thinking? I'm late because LS probably wanted someone to join late and I kinda wanted to be a late comer myself.

Also, why are you rolefishing/setup speculating anyway?
rEdo

Raging Bull wrote:

I think Lilac probably has a game changing role if lynched. I don't knwo why else would he be introduced D2.
this, I'd restrain from voting him. Royston seems like he's really stubborn on killing him, stubborn on his little wagon of "odds of helping town would be greater". Royston, is there a CERTAIN reason why you would like to lynch Lilac right off the bat, without knowing anything but that he was introduced D2? if that's just "a gut feeling", I'll use my vote on you.
Royston
No, I don't have any other reasoning. Go ahead and vote me then.
rEdo
alright then, if that's what you say

Vote: Royston
Raging Bull
Well okay. I mean hell pieguy votes on his gut feeling all the time and no one really questions it, especially when it's based on nothing. But voting for Royston because he used his gut feeling seems even worse. Is there an actual reasoning for voting Royston, rEdo?
rEdo
I guess I've said that before, but let me repeat myself.

we don't really know much about Lilac, and unless he claims he's a townie or whatever I'd say that he must have an important factor in this game, due to he was introduced to the game D2 and was "hidden" before that, despite being able to get voted on. the title of the game says "Oh good, the game didn't end N1". that would imply that there COULD BE a possibility that if a certain someone dies, the game ends immediately... and that's why I wouldn't be so sure about voting Lilac. also, Royston says that lynching him would give us more profit than voting somebody randomly, which I find as complete bullshit and an anti-town call, and as an addition to that he says that it's his sole reason to vote Lilac. thus I'd like to see if he's hiding something from us.

also, besides him, I'd like to read something from Tsukasa, as he's one of my suspects as well, but due to inactivity I'll restrain from saying anything about him.
DakeDekaane

NoHitter wrote:

Responding to prod.

@Deka
I'm pretty sure Tsukasa is innocent. So please unvote him.
What an interesrtng wording. Who should I vote then?

Royston wrote:

Royston, could you?
no
:(
Lilac
If it helps, It probably isn't substitution cipher anymore.
NoHitter
It's probably one of those things you need a source material to decode.
i.e. If it was a book, the first one represents the page number? The second one is the word in the page.
I'm trying to do it with page numbers of the thread and words, but to no avail currently.
What's curious though is that LS posted at the 33rd page. And the cipher's last numbers are 33-119

@Deka
Someone who isn't Tsukasa but is suspicious for you.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Reality has shifted slightly.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
(The last post is unrelated to this one.)

GM Announcement: Players, while we appriciate you heeding our warning previously about playing while we were having problems, everything seems to be working fine now. You can come back and play again.

*But nobody logged on very much at all.*

One never logged on again.

Blue Yoshi - ??? - Unexisted D2

It is now Night 2. You can still talk during this night.

Edit: Oh yeah, 24 hours.
Royston
oh, um, okay
Royston

Royston wrote:

oh no

Blue Yoshi - (???) - Mysteriously vanished D2

RIP :(
did I call it or what?
pieguyn
WHAT
Knarf
Interesting... Blue yoshi vanished at the day.
Raging Bull
Royston maybe you shouldnt talk or else we all disappear.
DakeDekaane
It was like the lynch of the day, my scum suspects are really going down, if dead people is town, is there any way to know?
Royston

Raging Bull wrote:

Royston maybe you shouldnt talk or else we all disappear.
oh god

LadySuburu wrote:

2-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
This message was modified about an hour ago. At first I thought nothing had changed but after comparing it to what Dake quoted on the following page it looks like the first number changed from a 3 to a 2
DakeDekaane
I suggest policy lynch Royston
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Oh, I should mention that the speedy reviver was town. That was supposed to be included in the day-end up above.
Raging Bull
So we know the alignment the next day?
Royston

DakeDekaane wrote:

I suggest policy lynch Royston
pls no

Raging Bull wrote:

So we know the alignment the next day?
I... guess so?

Also what the hell was Blue Yoshi's role? Some sort of day bodyguard/governor??? I don't even
fartownik
I actually thought the kill on Tanz was a delay from scum, but Blue Yoshi's alignment was not revealed either, and that's from a lynch. Perhaps all the alignments are revealed with a 1-day delay, for some reason. No idea why his role didn't show up though.

Also the code changed right after he died, intredasting. I still can't put my finger on this case though, nothing comes to my mind.
NoHitter
Another attempt to decode:
Town (not/a/obvious/another???) still be (????)

I'm not sure wherther or not to count the text inside quotes, the votes, the text above the quotes (i.e. XXX wrote:)
VoidnOwO
:)
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Deadline extended 24hrs, because not everyone has submitted an action or a no action.

This shall happen only once.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Deadline extended 12(ish) hrs due to Tsukasa requesting replacement.

Hey guys, Night has chat enabled for a reason. You know you can scumhunt for the next day during this time, right? Even if you can't vote just pre-vote and then actually vote when next day happens. Or something.

So uh, yeah. Replacement.
NoHitter
SO anyone else tried to solve that cipher?
Raging Bull
I just dont think that should be the point of the game. It could just be distraction
Royston

Raging Bull wrote:

I just dont think that should be the point of the game. It could just be distraction

LadySuburu wrote:

All hints are important.
But yeah, I haven't had any luck with the code.
Rantai
Problem solving was never my strongest point. The most I have gotten out of it so far has been a headache.
DakeDekaane
Following NH's:
"Town ____ still be _____"
Which makes a bit of sense but I get confused counting so many words, I always get lost a different word each time orz. I'm kinda stuck about what it could be.
Lilac
"Town ____ still be _____"

The first has to be a modal verb. So it's either 'could, should, would, might' and other conjugations of it.

Second is more than likely an adjective but could be anything really.
Lilac
A.K.A. Where English Language in Year 11 actually comes in handy, by golly.

Figure out the last word, the second is so limited to what it can be.
pieguyn
working on it cause I'm too lazy to scumhunt right now
pieguyn

LadySuburu wrote:

Man, designing these hints from scratch is a bit more difficult. I have to becareful not to mess it up... I might still have, but oh well. Ack why am I putting in effort.

2-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
ok I think it's the bolded word

so, "Town should be more careful". oh great 0.0
pieguyn
ebwop: 118th word on the 33rd page not counting anything related to quotes
I assume I just fucked up and double-counted a word which should make that the 119th word, matching 33-119
Lilac
I think pieguy has got it.

Hurrah.
VoidnOwO
So... What does it mean to be more careful? In practice.
fartownik
It most likely means shit. Same as the other hints.

It's obvious Town should be careful, it's obvious the night is a dangerous time. All the hints state the obvious and it's like that on purpose. I seriously doubt they have a deeper meaning now. The hints were put in to move the game a little forward and most likely to get people that will be interested only in them and not in actual scumhunting (which is obviously more important).

The hints should've already helped us if they were meant to be helpful. It's near D3 and we've got nothing from them but ruckus, time to let them go and focus on the actual game, it was just a play from the mod.
VoidnOwO
When one's mind is so open, they are prone to easy manipulation. Can you resist, while still performing your job?
Raging Bull
That's why I said forget the damn hints. I doubt not doing a hint for one day would kill all of town.
Lilac
V/LA until the 11th. I need to not play mafia so I can actually focus on Uni.

Thanks.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
A post was found by Blue Yoshi on the forums for the game. It was deleted almost right away, but it was a complaint about his lost character.

Blue Yoshi's body was found, and he was a Town Doctor.

*The GMs were quiet the next morning, it seemed they thought they had everything settled and fixed. However, you know better. It seems more people never logged on again. Looks like it's up to you to solve this, since the GMs are oblivious.*

RB - ??? - Dissapeared N2
NoHItter - ??? - Dissapeared N2


Still searching for a replacement for Tsukasa, deadline is indefinate until one is found.

It's 1/2 players +1 to lynch.
Lilac
Vote: LadySuburu

LEAP OF FAITH.
NoHitter
/dies

Edit: Fine
Raging Bull
dlgbsroghawiovnbf0h-1wy53hjtg23t vbfgnjtrwd

good luck
VoidnOwO
:)
Royston

BRBP wrote:

Royston wrote:

Also what the hell was Blue Yoshi's role?
Doctor


*runs*
um
fartownik
Vote: LS

I actually thought about it earlier. Let's hammer that obvious scum and see what happens.

2 nightkills by the way, most likely a vig?

Also I will try to get some real suspects by reviewing the thread again with the information we have now, will take some time.
fartownik
And yeah, how BRBP knew Yoshi was a Doctor before the reveal? Please explain.
Royston
And this...

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Waiting for my night action to resolve.
If it happens the way I hope it to I will be dead.
Why would a doctor say that?! I have so many questions right now. Can someone please tell me what's going on? I want to send support ticket to GM plz :(
VoidnOwO
:)
fartownik
May I know where then?
Rantai
2 kills?

Also coinciding with Lilac's arrival (N1 only had 1).

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
:)
Royston
wow, I kinda feel like an idiot for missing that...

I seriously still don't get why he made those statements being a doctor though. Based on his later posts, I'd guess privy to some extra information that affected his role in some way? I mean, it is called information mafia after all. And I've got none of it.

anyway I'm sure nothing bad will happen as a result of me doing this
vote: LadySuburu
Royston
to clarify, by 'those statements' I mean the ones along the lines of ''if things go to plan, I'll be dead'.
rEdo
Claim: Day Vigilante
Vote: LadySuburu

actually I can even shoot him right away, but the next person will hammer (providing he's actually a votable person), so I'll just drop that by since it's this late into the game.

hi RB
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Player LadySuburu is not found. That's a gimmick for another game, at another time.
pieguyn
rofl @ LS
okay what the fuck, dayvig? so much for that
brb rereading entire thread
DakeDekaane
Really guys, voting the mod...

anyone who would you target rEdo?

It seems there's no vig, as nobody has fake/claimed it yet, Royston, your action this night?
pieguyn
DISCLAIMER: this post contains a lot of random thoughts and quotes. it may be impossible to follow, just be careful 0.0

FLIPS BECAUSE LS DOESN'T HAVE THE FLIPS IN THE FIRST POST RAGE
Yuno - Hurried Jester (Conditional Saulus) - Flees the party alive D1.
Tanz - Speedy Reviver - Missing N1
Blue Yoshi's body was found, and he was a Town Doctor.
RB - ??? - Dissapeared N2
NoHItter - ??? - Dissapeared N2

DakeDekaane wrote:

So we'll be wasting more time or can we begin to lynch scumz?
HoS: ???

No, really.
FoS: Tanz, Blue Yoshi
Sheeping disguised as RV? :I
^ that logic makes no sense whatsoever, it's RV

IMO Royston is town. keeps doing setup speculation even after CalignoBot said it was scummy. not to mention he outright posted he didn't have a wincon in his PM. I doubt scum would do all that unless I'm getting mindgamed and/or trolled

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Royston: I said that because if there's manipulative/misleading roles, PRs are as useful as a squarish wheel, so we have to rely on merely scumhunting.
glad to see my game had an influence on people <3

fartownik wrote:

kook's argument made no sense, simple as that. He voted someone that he thought would be the least harmful for him, someone that can't counter his attack. He probably thinks that he's supposed to do something, but doesn't really know what and this is what comes out of it.

Also rEdo please stop sheeping to me :f
e.g. what all new players do

CalignoBot wrote:

royston's 'first' wrote:

uh oh
All these posts are pinging me. The first by itself warranted a vote.
that post didn't even seem serious IMO

Raging Bull attacking Blue Yoshi seems playstyle based cause iirc RB did that with me before

fartownik wrote:

I'm starting to think "???" is a Serial Killer that knows everyone's alignment.

NOPE, STAHP THROWING THESE THOUGHTS INTO MY MIND, LS
more setup speculation

LadySuburu wrote:

But if I don't make at least one of you think then this thread will never have posts because NOBODY IS POSTING COME ON GUS.

I want another You are Mafia length thread here.
yeeaaaah You Are Mafia length <3
though I don't think it'll happen at this point

DakeDekaane seems town for me

Dake wrote:

inb4 bastard game
do you even know LS

fartownik wrote:

Okay, so if you're not lying and all the hints are important - we should probably lynch The 15 Person, unless you just said that so we do it without hesitation.

fartownik wrote:

I don't really see a point in voting for "???" right now, we know nothing about it. It really might flip anything, even Jester and then we would probably lose the game because we lynched it ;o It really makes no sense to discuss it right now, everyone that votes him (especially for no reason, just like kook did) pings for scum.
flip flop?

Tanzklaue wrote:

also there is literally nothing that is absurdly bastard that can screw us over. I think the modtalk here is deriving our attention from the goal: finding scum.
oh look that's probably correct. how the hell can you know that on D1 though 0.0

me wrote:

and before any of you get mad that I didn't even mention gut feeling, you all get mad when I do do it, so pick a side plz :P srsly, I haven't got any gut feelings so far this game, cause not enough has happened. occult stuff can't be explained using logical ideas :P
wow no one's seriously pointed this out

BRBP wrote:

According to wikipedia, it was named in honour of Franziska Countess von Hardenberg. That's three capital letters. PGO has three capital letters. Guys, the 15th person must be a lightning rod PGO. Seriously farto, that makes no sense. Team Poland is wayyy too focused on the 15h person. Can we like... Wait for it to do something first?
knowing LS I wouldn't be surprised

RB wrote:

God fuck the 15 person. Why can't we focus on scum hunting? Play it like a regular game.
fuck yeah. okay RB seems town for me

Royston wrote:

Okay, fine. I'm a motivator. I can target a person at night to "increase their role's effectiveness" (I presume it would give the role an additional action as on the wiki) and if possible it will take effect on the night it's used.
wat, roleclaiming for no reason.

Tsukasa wrote:

What? Motivator?

You've got to be kidding me... >.>
okay that just seems like you're pissed off because your whole read on D1 claimed an obv town role
and now as mafia you can't keep making people think you're doing stuff

aw fk NH replaced Caligno. I wanted to see what Caligno's thoughts on NH were

fartownik wrote:

I don't see anything exceptionally scummy in Blue Yoshi, but nothing exceptionally Towny as well.
good call. he ended up being Doctor. seems like something scum would want to figure out cause it's generally the optimal play for PRs

Yuno wrote:

youll just see
man you sure warned us LOL

BRBP wrote:

rEdo's sheeping farscumnik for unknown reasons?
where'd you get that from? funny how it matches my current read ATM

桜 wrote:

Sorry for intervening in your game, but according to the logs yuno has deleted a post 6 times. Just thought i'd let everyone know

Go on.
obv scum

Tanzklaue wrote:

if there is a person who knows everyones role, then this person might not have wanted to lynch the jester, especially if the person is townaligned, even if that's unlikely.

Tanzklaue wrote:

we should worry about actually doing something instead of speculations.
flip flop

DakeDekaane wrote:

Why you don't want to look for the guys in the wagon? Afraid of something? Do you know something that the rest don't?
pushing wagon analysis on a Jester? and one who was being fking annoying and confusing as hell too

aw damn it Tanz was town. so much for that

BRBP wrote:

Thanks for this, I completely forgot the game x_x
towntell

BRBP wrote:

You've asked this three times now but haven't posted yours yet. All you've said it that we three are suspicious for not posting on D2.
nice, BRBP is town

DakeDekaane wrote:

The people who are town may understand this better, as LS said that at the mere beginning of the game about our aligmnment, so if there isn't any kind of reviver, I think it's safe to consider dead people as town. Even you said "Saulus" (Yuno) convert to town after dead, so this is the most likely scenario.
scumslip? 0.0

k getting to the end

fartownik wrote:

I actually thought the kill on Tanz was a delay from scum, but Blue Yoshi's alignment was not revealed either, and that's from a lynch. Perhaps all the alignments are revealed with a 1-day delay, for some reason. No idea why his role didn't show up though.
wait, what? Tanz's alignment was revealed, he was a speedy reviver, whatever that is

fartownik wrote:

It's obvious Town should be careful, it's obvious the night is a dangerous time.
my god scumslip again

oh look these alignments got delayed. mb that's what he was talking about
pieguyn
vote: fartownik scumslip and flip flopping on D1
HoS: DakeDekaane for not really doing much. seems to match what he did as mafia, mb I'm just biased cause every game we've played together he was mafia

BRBP and Royston are town for me. rEdo would be leaning scum but he claimed dayvig inb4 mafia dayvig
pieguyn
also

Raging Bull wrote:

Damnit I bet you're vig now.

rEdo wrote:

Claim: Day Vigilante
WHAT
called so hard. too bad we don't yet know what alignment he even was
Royston

DakeDekaane wrote:

Royston, your action this night?
Um, I'm not sure I should say. I dunno if it would benefit town or scum more if I said who I targeted. Although I will say I didn't No Action last night

DakeDekaane wrote:

Royston wrote:

So, we're just gonna wait out until the mislynch, are we.
You just want to put the votes out from you but don't give any more hints about why should we not vote you.
@pieguy that's why I claimed btw


As for fart:

fartownik wrote:

Also, I find those Royston votes pretty scummy.

fartownik wrote:

Royston has a lot of silly votes on himself of people I consider scummy, I'm highly against lynching him.
He definitely seemed pretty sure I was town early on in the game. I mean, he's right, but keep in mind these posts were made before I claimed etc. and he didn't really explain why he thought I was town, just saying that scum was on my wagon.

I'm not really sure I agree with the "scumslips" you pointed out, probably because the same thing was used against me in the tooooohu game and I can't really say it's a strong argument
pieguyn
I'm not really sure I agree with the "scumslips" you pointed out, probably because the same thing was used against me in the tooooohu game and I can't really say it's a strong argument
the one about Tanz's kill being "delayed" when it was N1 and he flipped immediately is the main one
I fail to see how he'd think that if he was town @_@
Royston
Oh, right

Well, his role was given on flip, but his alignment wasn't.

LadySuburu wrote:

Oh, I should mention that the speedy reviver was town. That was supposed to be included in the day-end up above.
This was on page 35, at the beginning of N2
rEdo

pieguy1372 wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Damnit I bet you're vig now.

rEdo wrote:

Claim: Day Vigilante
WHAT
in Stacking the Deck it was the opposite, I was a townie and he was a vig, too bad I wasn't the one to shoot him this time though x)

DakeDekaane wrote:

anyone who would you target rEdo?
I still think it's Royston, but it was just basing on that "???" guy stuff, so it's not that relevant on a second thought. I'll reread this whole thread once I'm home (that is in like 8 hours).
fartownik
Sorry pieguy, but what the fuck are you talking about.

pieguy wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Okay, so if you're not lying and all the hints are important - we should probably lynch The 15 Person, unless you just said that so we do it without hesitation.

fartownik wrote:

I don't really see a point in voting for "???" right now, we know nothing about it. It really might flip anything, even Jester and then we would probably lose the game because we lynched it ;o It really makes no sense to discuss it right now, everyone that votes him (especially for no reason, just like kook did) pings for scum.
flip flop?
The first post is on page 12. The second one is on page 8. Why the fuck would you switch their order in your post? It's an obvious manipulation from you.

The post on page 8 was written when we knew nothing about "???", there was literally no information but the fact that we're able to vote it. When I was writing the post on page 12 we had 2 more hints from LS with that "Hardenbergia" thing which I thought was Serial Killer in the beginning, that's why I threw in a brief idea of lynching it, but later changed my mind after discussion, which you didn't bring up here too. I thought the hints mattered somehow at that moment, I don't now. Thoughts change throughout the game - especially in one like this.

pieguy wrote:

fartownik wrote:

I actually thought the kill on Tanz was a delay from scum, but Blue Yoshi's alignment was not revealed either, and that's from a lynch. Perhaps all the alignments are revealed with a 1-day delay, for some reason. No idea why his role didn't show up though.
wait, what? Tanz's alignment was revealed, he was a speedy reviver, whatever that is

fartownik wrote:

It's obvious Town should be careful, it's obvious the night is a dangerous time.
my god scumslip again
XD

First quote - p/2534469

Is speedy reviver an alignment? IS SPEEDY REVIVER AN ALIGNMENT? IS SPEEDY REVIVER A FUCKING ALIGNMENT?

Second one - p/2521895

Okay, so you missed this hint I suppose? Do you even read this thread or pretend to be doing so?


Your 'arguments' to vote me are fucking silly. You manipulate the quotes by bringing up things out of context, leaving important information such as I mentioned above.
pieguyn
The post on page 8 was written when we knew nothing about "???", there was literally no information but the fact that we're able to vote it. When I was writing the post on page 12 we had 2 more hints from LS with that "Hardenbergia" thing which I thought was Serial Killer in the beginning, that's why I threw in a brief idea of lynching it, but later changed my mind after discussion, which you didn't bring up here too. I thought the hints mattered somehow at that moment, I don't now. Thoughts change throughout the game - especially in one like this.
order switching doesn't matter cause the point is you had two different ideas. changing your mind again after that is another flip flop which is exactly what I meant

btw
Is speedy reviver an alignment? IS SPEEDY REVIVER AN ALIGNMENT? IS SPEEDY REVIVER A FUCKING ALIGNMENT?
my miss actually, it looked so similar to the first flip and I didn't notice there was no alignment there LOL. that's what I get for trying to read the whole thread at once = = in that case, unvote

vote: DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane

pieguy in his long post wrote:

DakeDekaane seems town for me.
uh, can i ask what made you change of opinion?

Going with meta is not the right way to go, you look too eager and the day has just started. You're also trying too hard in finding slips that actually they aren't, the "slip" you mentioned I meant to say "we the people who are town...".

Voting me for that reasons is a nice way to put you in my suspect list.
FoS: pieguy

Don't you mind if we share our reads? This goes to everybody.
pieguyn
fk this shit, just when I thought I had something I fk'ed up

you know something, by really weak PoE I get Dake, Tsukasa, and Rantai

3. pieguy <- town
5. DakeDekaane
6. Tsukasa
7. BRBP <- town
8. Royston <- town
10. kookookook
11. fartownik
12. rEdo <- if he's not town I'm flipping a table over on LS :>
13. Rantai
15. Lilac

fartownik I have to admit besides what I thought was a scumslip what you're doing doesn't match what I remember you doing as mafia. That just leaves 5 people. I'm assuming there's 4 mafia or 3 mafia/1 SK (there was only 1 death N1. Lilac being SK seems way too effing obvious to be the case but perhaps there was a successful protect or smth else, also seems it's not a vig cause probably they'd claim it)

I'm not sure how Dake even plays as town but his play this game has been similarly antitown just like, literally, all his other games I've seen (lol?).
I really wish I knew the alignments of those who died N2, especially NH's as it seemed like he could have been mafia. > <
kook isn't posting again. not sure if just new or if he's mafia mindgaming us

oh hey new post

DakeDekaane wrote:

uh, can i ask what made you change of opinion?
that was near the middle of D1, but since then my ideas have changed. that post was literally me typing out every single thing I thought and every quote that I thought might seem relevant, so there's bound to be some contradictions in there

Going with meta is not the right way to go, you look too eager and the day has just started. You're also trying too hard in finding slips that actually they aren't, the "slip" you mentioned I meant to say "we the people who are town...".
yeah Dake is mafia
I try to get some new information flowing and he says I'm "too eager". also I'll post whatever the hell I want if it means there's a chance I found a mafia
this is the exact same thing Caligno tried to do saying I was being "too opportunistic"
gogogo
pieguyn
EBWOP cause I know you're going to ask:
this is the exact same thing Caligno tried to do saying I was being "too opportunistic"
^ that happened in Lucid Dreamers, not this game
DakeDekaane
In what sense I'm playing anti-town?

Why do you think NH could be scum?

Also, I'm not Caligno, and I'm not scum. You're being nitpicky on every post and relying on meta too much, which is calling my attention now. I'm now interested on find if you're scum or not.

Also I found something interesting

pieguy wrote:

also Lilac is town
I don't think I missed it, but you didn't say why when BRBP asked.

And yes, your PoE is weak.
pieguyn
In what sense I'm playing anti-town?
you really haven't done anything the whole game, while still posting
also meta is valid reasoning. you're just trying to say it's not cause you know I'm right ;)

Why do you think NH could be scum?
gut feeling. Caligno seemed weird but he always seems weird

I don't think I missed it, but you didn't say why when BRBP asked.
wanna bet

You're being nitpicky on every post and relying on meta too much, which is calling my attention now. I'm now interested on find if you're scum or not.
so starting to analyze stuff more in-depth to figure stuff out is suspicious. ok
btw, if you're interested in finding out if I'm scum or not, why not try to figure it out yourself. that's exactly what I mean when I say you haven't done anything

And yes, your PoE is weak.
I'm gonna quote Two hope you don't mind

Two wrote:

and yet it's more compelling than anything you have or will post this game

beautifully illustrating my point
rEdo
so we're sharing thoughts? okay, let's get this going.


Royston wrote:

I bet the 15th player is LadySuburu in disguise

Lilac wrote:

Vote: LadySuburu

LEAP OF FAITH.
I kind of giggled


Yuno's case didn't give us any hints in hunting scum, it's pretty much what Rantai said - it was pretty much voting somebody that hadn't anything to say, thus drawing attention to himself as scum, but people who joined the wagon are either potential scum that looked for an easy no-suspicious lynch, or players that just wanted the game to go further (such as me).

pieguy looked like he's completely ignored that whole "let's hunt 15th person" wagon and actually searched for potential scum in people which were speculating the setup too much, so I'd say he's town to me.

Dake's posts have started to ping me pretty hard. he hasn't posted much after the Yuno's case being solved, but I guess that's due to mindfuck that occured, I had pretty much the same feeling. however after that, he just went for Tsukasa who was pretty much inactive, which would be supposed to give us a town-read, and that's the case in my opinion. the fact that he started to defend himself so hardly against pieguy's speculations by immediate turn of the scumlean to him by >Voting me for that reasons is a nice way to put you in my suspect list ­ kinda proved that, but I'd like to wait with my shoot/vote. also, he's never responded to Royston's p/2536772, which could've been an uncomfortable question.

Tsukasa... yeah, can't say much due to inactivity.

BRBP is town.

I've went too deep into Royston due to his idea of killing Hardenbergia, which on a second thought wasn't in place. actually since Lilac hasn't got any post restrictions of any kind and he hasn't been to much in this game, I'd say he's leaning town right now.

kook3 hasn't really done anything this game, not sure if he's even into this game... I could even shoot him right away, but I guess we've got a safer person for that.

fartownik has been speculating the 15th person a lot which I blatantly sheeped to cause it seemed as a right thing to do in order to get the game going, but except for that he just hunted the people that weren't active this game, as if looking for an easy lynch. could be either scum or a vivid scum-hunter, so I'd say he's giving me a null read.

I are scum :)) Shoot: rEdo

Rantai hasn't really said past the Hardenbergia case, and just picked up kook and Yuno as his scapegoats. there must some more of scum (I'd say 3), so there's a high possibility that he's one.

and yeah... Lilac. he's been introduced D2, and since then he barely said anything. not sure how should I read that.


alright, I think that should do.
FoS: DakeDekaane, Tsukasa, kookookook, Rantai, Lilac

I'M GOING TO SHOOT DAKE TODAY, IN THE NEXT HOURS I WANNA HEAR WHO'S OKAY WITH THAT.
Rantai
Rantai hasn't really said past the Hardenbergia case, and just picked up kook and Yuno as his scapegoats. there must some more of scum (I'd say 3), so there's a high possibility that he's one.
So. You missed me following leads on DD (who is still my strongest scumspect due to reasons tendered)? I guess that clearly means Kook and Yuno are my scapegoats (sarcasm). Actually I don't even know where you got that idea from, care to elaborate?

This gross omission of facts looks extremely rushed and I'm beginning to think you've thrown out opinions just to look like you're "analysing".

I'm still heavily concerned that Lilac is a possible 3rd party/mafia. Given the general inactivity and the fact that a 2nd kill suddenly turned up on the night after his arrival. Actually if I got back to the first day, I'm beginning to think cult that can shoot (is that what you call a cultafia?). Might seem farfetched but LS makes me believe anything at this stage. Unsure at this point.

Kook and Tsukasa are dead null.

I'm going to lean towards pieguy town. His general activity and pressure and hasn't actually contradicted himself as far as I can tell give me that vibe.

BRBP seems to be going off in random tangents but his quick debunking of fart's theory gives me a town lean, lessening any misguidance that may have happened. The rest of his posts, again, are somewhat erratic and null.

rEdo - Not sure if I actually believe your dayvig claim, if Lilac isn't anti-town then your claim seems to be quite a coincidence. But if you are, I'm up for a DD or Lilac shoot. Don't do it now though, I want to see what they have to say first.

I'm leaning slightly scum for fart due to early remarks (harder hints gave off a very unsettling feeling).
rEdo

Rantai wrote:

So. You missed me following leads on DD (who is still my strongest scumspect due to reasons tendered)? I guess that clearly means Kook and Yuno are my scapegoats (sarcasm). Actually I don't even know where you got that idea from, care to elaborate?

This gross omission of facts looks extremely rushed and I'm beginning to think you've thrown out opinions just to look like you're "analysing".
yes, I indeed saw you suspecting DD and I wanted you to mention it here - you get a passing mark. however, that doesn't change the fact that you were quite suspecting kook for no particular reason (p/2520095/), and yes, I exaggerated about Yuno, sorry for that. just wanted to see your reaction~

oh and yes, I won't hide that this post was written in quite a hurry.
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