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Royston
187 posts
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Royston
Well, I have no idea who to vote for. I'm tempted to vote for one of the inactives (i.e. like 50%+ of the players) but my leads are poor at best. And I'm still waiting for Lilac to say something about the concealment until D2, but I'm not sure we're gonna get anything.

Has anyone worked out what the coded message is? I've tried a few things but honestly I'm pretty bad at this kind of stuff.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
I've tried to decipher the code for like an hour yesterday, no results so far. I will try today again as I'm not as sleepy as yesterday, maybe some idea will ring in my head.

Also just vote on ANYONE you think is scum. It's better than sitting and doing nothing, maybe someone will actually reply in the end.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
I admit i havent been paying much to this game much, but man why care about the message too much?
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Because it's the only interesting thing that happened here for the entire day (a game day, not a real one).
Blue Yoshi_old
0 posts
Joined August 2013
Blue Yoshi_old
I'm guessing "jem'g" is either don't or won't, but that doesn't exactly help a lot.
Royston's translation is BS too.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
well it wasn't a translation but I'll give you it was BS
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
So I'll just go off the Yuno wagon (damnit fart)

pieguy, what was your reason for voting Yuno? You seem to said Jester seems common in LS games yet you still voted for him despite his behavior where it seems like he really wanted to be lynched.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Yuno should've been modkilled before lynching tbh, he won because he broken the rules, we wanted to lynch him no matter what so we get his flip. I don't really think judging by that wagon helps anyhow, especially with people that joined it at last.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Why is he lynched anyways?He was given lots of chances despite the fact you saw him with proof he deleted his pst and Sakura posting he deleted his posts a lot.


I think it might help, scum might want to lynch someone who looks like they are about to get lynched.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
It doesn't really matter since it was purely Townie behavior to vote him, for the sake of his flip. Also the mod probably pitied for him and let him win just for fun, though it wasn't necessarily fair from his side.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
I think I'm getting somewhere with the code
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

fartownik wrote:

It doesn't really matter since it was purely Townie behavior to vote him, for the sake of his flip. Also the mod probably pitied for him and let him win just for fun, though it wasn't necessarily fair from his side.
That's part of it, but there's more to it than that.

Ask me again when the game's over. If I even remember by then.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston

LadySuburu wrote:

and I just wanted to say goodu job on night actions guys. Sfough, don't be TOOF careful. IA mean, Ia'm not sadistic.
It's pretty rough, and there's obviously things I've overlooked, but that's what I've got
LadySuburu
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Royston wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

and I just wanted to say goodu job on night actions guys. Sfough, don't be TOOF careful. IA mean, Ia'm not sadistic.
It's pretty rough, and there's obviously things I've overlooked, but that's what I've got
*clap*

http://www.ookii.org/egs/uryuom
Blue Yoshi_old
0 posts
Joined August 2013
Blue Yoshi_old
Oh please.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
how the hell royston did you use that translator? Or you somehow really decoded that
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Why do I keep starting new damn pages.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
Royston u win

vote: rEdo
copies fartownik all of D1 and is nowhere to be seen D2. IMO, if we go for a lurker lynch let's start here
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

So I'll just go off the Yuno wagon (damnit fart)

pieguy, what was your reason for voting Yuno? You seem to said Jester seems common in LS games yet you still voted for him despite his behavior where it seems like he really wanted to be lynched.
I never said a jester was common, I just said there was a good chance for there to be a jester

anyway, I voted him just cause he was being so counter-productive for town
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston

Raging Bull wrote:

how the hell royston did you use that translator? Or you somehow really decoded that
yup I decoded it using this website, it took a lot longer than I'm willing to admit
LadySuburu
80 posts
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Man, designing these hints from scratch is a bit more difficult. I have to be careful not to mess it up... I might still have, but oh well. Ack why am I putting in effort.

2-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
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Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai
Wow that was pretty impressive Royston I gave up after a while ;_;

Also I'd think he wasn't modkilled due to the super secret end game stuff LS is hinting at.
Raging Bull
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Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
@pieguy, okay then I'll give you that, especially since it was d1. I just think that if someone is acting counter productive (like oh god so serious) I don't really think they would have been mafia at all.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
Well, I'm not sure how far away the deadline is, but here we go

Vote:Lilac

still hasn't posted anything to make me reconsider my position
Knarf
541 posts
Joined August 2012
Knarf
Where's Tsukasa?
Not posting for almost a week.
Vote: Tsukasa
Lilac
Elite Mapper
1,515 posts
Joined December 2008
Lilac
You had no position to begin with, Royston.

Vote: farto. More than convinced that the charade of his on D1 was completely misleading and caused more panic for town than it should. It was also stupid, like half the questions you asked.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston

Lilac wrote:

You had no position to begin with, Royston.
This has been, and remains my posistion.
I assume that their are more Town-aligned players than non-Town players in the general pool - that's a fairly safe assumption in my opinion. However, the chance of ??? being town-aligned? It's possible but it could just as easily be scum-aligned or a neutral party. Therefore, if I were to vote ??? I'd say the odds of that helping town would be greater than lynching someone at random.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
prod: NoHItter, DakeDekaane, Tsukasa, BRBP, fartownik, rEdo
fk this is ridiculous
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

pieguy1372 wrote:

prod: NoHItter, DakeDekaane, Tsukasa, BRBP, fartownik, rEdo
fk this is ridiculous
Assorted people have been prodded.

Fartownik is not eligable for a prod at this moment.
Rantai
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Rantai
Vote: DD - reasons given if you read back.

I think I agree and disagree with you there Royston. I would speculate that he isn't town or scum (unless scum suddenly got a member who was publicly announced, which makes little sense). Town is more likely than scum but I am leaning heavily third party due to the nature of the arrival.

But being an LS game whatever I speculate is wrong, generally. ;~;
Rantai
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Rantai
As an added note, third parties could swing either way, so it's more of a 50/50 than beneficial.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

LadySuburu wrote:

3-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
Royston, could you?

I got a vote, yay me. I doubt we're going anywhere like this, I'm staying on Tsukasa not because inactivity, but lack of content.

Also, hi Lilac~
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
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NoHitter
Responding to prod.

@Deka
I'm pretty sure Tsukasa is innocent. So please unvote him.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
Royston, could you?
no
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Joined December 2008
Lilac

Royston wrote:

Lilac wrote:

You had no position to begin with, Royston.
This has been, and remains my posistion.
I assume that their are more Town-aligned players than non-Town players in the general pool - that's a fairly safe assumption in my opinion. However, the chance of ??? being town-aligned? It's possible but it could just as easily be scum-aligned or a neutral party. Therefore, if I were to vote ??? I'd say the odds of that helping town would be greater than lynching someone at random.
No it hasn't. If it has, you wouldn't have waited for me to say anything and would have voted for me in the first place. Your voting, reasoning and position is flawed or you're just confused.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
Well, yeah, I refrained because I thought you'd give some sort of information regarding why you were hidden D1
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
I think Lilac probably has a game changing role if lynched. I don't knwo why else would he be introduced D2.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
mb it has something to do with Yuno's "conditional saulus", it happened the day after he got lynched
people who try to make saulus work sometimes force replace the person when they switch alignment. but Yuno is gone now so that's probably not it orz
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac

Royston wrote:

Well, yeah, I refrained because I thought you'd give some sort of information regarding why you were hidden D1
What reason would there be?

I'm a Lightning Rod PGO restricted to come late to the game because I could have wiped out most of town D1? Come on, what were you thinking? I'm late because LS probably wanted someone to join late and I kinda wanted to be a late comer myself.

Also, why are you rolefishing/setup speculating anyway?
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo

Raging Bull wrote:

I think Lilac probably has a game changing role if lynched. I don't knwo why else would he be introduced D2.
this, I'd restrain from voting him. Royston seems like he's really stubborn on killing him, stubborn on his little wagon of "odds of helping town would be greater". Royston, is there a CERTAIN reason why you would like to lynch Lilac right off the bat, without knowing anything but that he was introduced D2? if that's just "a gut feeling", I'll use my vote on you.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
No, I don't have any other reasoning. Go ahead and vote me then.
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo
alright then, if that's what you say

Vote: Royston
Raging Bull
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Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Well okay. I mean hell pieguy votes on his gut feeling all the time and no one really questions it, especially when it's based on nothing. But voting for Royston because he used his gut feeling seems even worse. Is there an actual reasoning for voting Royston, rEdo?
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo
I guess I've said that before, but let me repeat myself.

we don't really know much about Lilac, and unless he claims he's a townie or whatever I'd say that he must have an important factor in this game, due to he was introduced to the game D2 and was "hidden" before that, despite being able to get voted on. the title of the game says "Oh good, the game didn't end N1". that would imply that there COULD BE a possibility that if a certain someone dies, the game ends immediately... and that's why I wouldn't be so sure about voting Lilac. also, Royston says that lynching him would give us more profit than voting somebody randomly, which I find as complete bullshit and an anti-town call, and as an addition to that he says that it's his sole reason to vote Lilac. thus I'd like to see if he's hiding something from us.

also, besides him, I'd like to read something from Tsukasa, as he's one of my suspects as well, but due to inactivity I'll restrain from saying anything about him.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

NoHitter wrote:

Responding to prod.

@Deka
I'm pretty sure Tsukasa is innocent. So please unvote him.
What an interesrtng wording. Who should I vote then?

Royston wrote:

Royston, could you?
no
:(
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Joined December 2008
Lilac
If it helps, It probably isn't substitution cipher anymore.
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
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NoHitter
It's probably one of those things you need a source material to decode.
i.e. If it was a book, the first one represents the page number? The second one is the word in the page.
I'm trying to do it with page numbers of the thread and words, but to no avail currently.
What's curious though is that LS posted at the 33rd page. And the cipher's last numbers are 33-119

@Deka
Someone who isn't Tsukasa but is suspicious for you.
LadySuburu
80 posts
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Reality has shifted slightly.
LadySuburu
80 posts
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu
(The last post is unrelated to this one.)

GM Announcement: Players, while we appriciate you heeding our warning previously about playing while we were having problems, everything seems to be working fine now. You can come back and play again.

*But nobody logged on very much at all.*

One never logged on again.

Blue Yoshi - ??? - Unexisted D2

It is now Night 2. You can still talk during this night.

Edit: Oh yeah, 24 hours.
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Royston
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Royston
oh, um, okay
Royston
187 posts
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Royston

Royston wrote:

oh no

Blue Yoshi - (???) - Mysteriously vanished D2

RIP :(
did I call it or what?
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn
WHAT
Knarf
541 posts
Joined August 2012
Knarf
Interesting... Blue yoshi vanished at the day.
Raging Bull
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Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Royston maybe you shouldnt talk or else we all disappear.
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
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DakeDekaane
It was like the lynch of the day, my scum suspects are really going down, if dead people is town, is there any way to know?
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston

Raging Bull wrote:

Royston maybe you shouldnt talk or else we all disappear.
oh god

LadySuburu wrote:

2-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
This message was modified about an hour ago. At first I thought nothing had changed but after comparing it to what Dake quoted on the following page it looks like the first number changed from a 3 to a 2
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
I suggest policy lynch Royston
LadySuburu
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Oh, I should mention that the speedy reviver was town. That was supposed to be included in the day-end up above.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
So we know the alignment the next day?
Royston
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Royston

DakeDekaane wrote:

I suggest policy lynch Royston
pls no

Raging Bull wrote:

So we know the alignment the next day?
I... guess so?

Also what the hell was Blue Yoshi's role? Some sort of day bodyguard/governor??? I don't even
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
I actually thought the kill on Tanz was a delay from scum, but Blue Yoshi's alignment was not revealed either, and that's from a lynch. Perhaps all the alignments are revealed with a 1-day delay, for some reason. No idea why his role didn't show up though.

Also the code changed right after he died, intredasting. I still can't put my finger on this case though, nothing comes to my mind.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Another attempt to decode:
Town (not/a/obvious/another???) still be (????)

I'm not sure wherther or not to count the text inside quotes, the votes, the text above the quotes (i.e. XXX wrote:)
VoidnOwO
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VoidnOwO
:)
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LadySuburu
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Deadline extended 24hrs, because not everyone has submitted an action or a no action.

This shall happen only once.
LadySuburu
80 posts
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Deadline extended 12(ish) hrs due to Tsukasa requesting replacement.

Hey guys, Night has chat enabled for a reason. You know you can scumhunt for the next day during this time, right? Even if you can't vote just pre-vote and then actually vote when next day happens. Or something.

So uh, yeah. Replacement.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
SO anyone else tried to solve that cipher?
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
I just dont think that should be the point of the game. It could just be distraction
Royston
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Royston

Raging Bull wrote:

I just dont think that should be the point of the game. It could just be distraction

LadySuburu wrote:

All hints are important.
But yeah, I haven't had any luck with the code.
Rantai
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Rantai
Problem solving was never my strongest point. The most I have gotten out of it so far has been a headache.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Following NH's:
"Town ____ still be _____"
Which makes a bit of sense but I get confused counting so many words, I always get lost a different word each time orz. I'm kinda stuck about what it could be.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
"Town ____ still be _____"

The first has to be a modal verb. So it's either 'could, should, would, might' and other conjugations of it.

Second is more than likely an adjective but could be anything really.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
A.K.A. Where English Language in Year 11 actually comes in handy, by golly.

Figure out the last word, the second is so limited to what it can be.
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn
working on it cause I'm too lazy to scumhunt right now
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

LadySuburu wrote:

Man, designing these hints from scratch is a bit more difficult. I have to becareful not to mess it up... I might still have, but oh well. Ack why am I putting in effort.

2-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
ok I think it's the bolded word

so, "Town should be more careful". oh great 0.0
pieguyn
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pieguyn
ebwop: 118th word on the 33rd page not counting anything related to quotes
I assume I just fucked up and double-counted a word which should make that the 119th word, matching 33-119
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
I think pieguy has got it.

Hurrah.
VoidnOwO
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VoidnOwO
So... What does it mean to be more careful? In practice.
fartownik
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fartownik
It most likely means shit. Same as the other hints.

It's obvious Town should be careful, it's obvious the night is a dangerous time. All the hints state the obvious and it's like that on purpose. I seriously doubt they have a deeper meaning now. The hints were put in to move the game a little forward and most likely to get people that will be interested only in them and not in actual scumhunting (which is obviously more important).

The hints should've already helped us if they were meant to be helpful. It's near D3 and we've got nothing from them but ruckus, time to let them go and focus on the actual game, it was just a play from the mod.
VoidnOwO
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VoidnOwO
When one's mind is so open, they are prone to easy manipulation. Can you resist, while still performing your job?
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
That's why I said forget the damn hints. I doubt not doing a hint for one day would kill all of town.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
V/LA until the 11th. I need to not play mafia so I can actually focus on Uni.

Thanks.
LadySuburu
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu
A post was found by Blue Yoshi on the forums for the game. It was deleted almost right away, but it was a complaint about his lost character.

Blue Yoshi's body was found, and he was a Town Doctor.

*The GMs were quiet the next morning, it seemed they thought they had everything settled and fixed. However, you know better. It seems more people never logged on again. Looks like it's up to you to solve this, since the GMs are oblivious.*

RB - ??? - Dissapeared N2
NoHItter - ??? - Dissapeared N2

Still searching for a replacement for Tsukasa, deadline is indefinate until one is found.

It's 1/2 players +1 to lynch.
Lilac
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Lilac
Vote: LadySuburu

LEAP OF FAITH.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
/dies

Edit: Fine
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
dlgbsroghawiovnbf0h-1wy53hjtg23t vbfgnjtrwd

good luck
VoidnOwO
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VoidnOwO
:)
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Royston
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Royston

BRBP wrote:

Royston wrote:

Also what the hell was Blue Yoshi's role?
Doctor


*runs*
um
fartownik
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fartownik
Vote: LS

I actually thought about it earlier. Let's hammer that obvious scum and see what happens.

2 nightkills by the way, most likely a vig?

Also I will try to get some real suspects by reviewing the thread again with the information we have now, will take some time.
fartownik
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fartownik
And yeah, how BRBP knew Yoshi was a Doctor before the reveal? Please explain.
Royston
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Royston
And this...

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Waiting for my night action to resolve.
If it happens the way I hope it to I will be dead.
Why would a doctor say that?! I have so many questions right now. Can someone please tell me what's going on? I want to send support ticket to GM plz :(
VoidnOwO
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VoidnOwO
:)
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fartownik
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fartownik
May I know where then?
Rantai
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Rantai
2 kills?

Also coinciding with Lilac's arrival (N1 only had 1).

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
VoidnOwO
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VoidnOwO
:)
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VoidnOwO
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VoidnOwO
:)
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Royston
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Royston
wow, I kinda feel like an idiot for missing that...

I seriously still don't get why he made those statements being a doctor though. Based on his later posts, I'd guess privy to some extra information that affected his role in some way? I mean, it is called information mafia after all. And I've got none of it.

anyway I'm sure nothing bad will happen as a result of me doing this
vote: LadySuburu
Royston
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Royston
to clarify, by 'those statements' I mean the ones along the lines of ''if things go to plan, I'll be dead'.
rEdo
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rEdo
Claim: Day Vigilante
Vote: LadySuburu

actually I can even shoot him right away, but the next person will hammer (providing he's actually a votable person), so I'll just drop that by since it's this late into the game.

hi RB
LadySuburu
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Player LadySuburu is not found. That's a gimmick for another game, at another time.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
rofl @ LS
okay what the fuck, dayvig? so much for that
brb rereading entire thread
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