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Raging Bull
and a wonderful star so you beat CDFA \:D/
Morbon_old
How about AR9 at insane? With 8 objects are placed heap, with hr AR is 10 +drain+od+cs, 9 is better imo =\
VelperK
Can I do a CtB guest difficulty?
Mrscookie
nice beatmap
the skin is good and the timing is perfect
Cancel
On hard, there are really too many streams. Consider making less harder streams, to keep the spread in order.
69653863
It's okay, though. It's not that hard to play, since this song has relatively average BPM (not too slow nor too fast)

and because I love Tick's way to place streams <3

fak new page
Aleks719
General
resolution of reversearrow.png should be exactly 128x128 (currently 125x125).
there is additional space in TicClick's diff between "TicClick Scary", remove it.
i think your offset is early a bit. i'd use +5 to yours. so 0.

Insane
AR8 for so many streamy parts? i'd say ar9, but up to you
01:00:932 (4,5,6,7) - in places like that your whistles sound off, 01:01:401 (6) - whistle should be set to the start, not to the end, also + sliderbodywhistle there. there are few places like that, rest sounds good, just try to follow music~ (yes i'm too lazy to pick all of them orz)
02:20:737 - you have a break is a same place in music before
02:28:120 (1) - two different sliderspeeds on one slider is unrankable
02:37:963 (2,3) - that's how it should be imo http://puu.sh/2Hp99.jpg
02:39:213 - very strong 1/6, i'd add two notes or slider : http://puu.sh/2Hpcs.jpg
02:42:182 (7) - whistle in the miiddle of slider sounds awkward
02:51:791 (6) - 5% of volume for note is unrankable, everything should be hearable, 20% here as min, reaise volume for nex soft section too
overall: some places with sliderspeed changes feel unnatural. i'd call it overusing, but oh well, it looks good on kiai time

TicCl!ck's Hard
cool diff, nothing to say. only one : if mapper will change ar in insane to 9, better increase ar here to 8.

Normal
00:16:870 (1,2) - spacing
00:27:182 (2,3,4) - hard to read, use slider+reverse instead?
01:25:541 - i'd add note here + whistle
01:31:401 (3) - beeter replace nc here from next note, it follows music more
01:32:573 (4) - suggest to remove(it's off from those 1/2 sounds)
01:46:401 (3,1,2,3) - ^ same
70% only? is it unfinished? oO

Easy
00:35:620 (1,2) - different quantity of reverses is bad for Easy. turn 2 into 2 regular sliders
01:02:807 (3,4,1,2) - stacks with different time (1/1 and 1/2 here) is bad too, try to avoid it, as example, stacks olny for 1/2, 1/1 - regular spacing. oh wait, you use more 1/1 later, unstack 1/2 less work for you~
01:39:370 (1,2) - ^
02:35:620 (1,2) - hidden stacks are not welcome is Easy, change if possible
02:50:620 (1,2,3) - ^
03:05:620 (1) - imo, finish fits better than whistle here
03:36:557 (2,3,1) - why so close to each other? oO


i'd give "star" icon, but unfinished normal makes me sad.
VelperK
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
pls revive it ;_;
Sister Jude
We want rank!!!!
Martin96
All finally clear. :D
Topic Starter
SuperMIC
Aleks, I followed most of your points, thanks for mod. o3o

feel free to star

everyone can now cheer

i finally resized the arrow by 3 pixels

still dont see the point, but professionalism is okay! \:D/]

---

oh and normals done

so FINALLY

we can actually try to rank this! \:D/
VelperK
Pls add this in description ;_;

http://puu.sh/2GpLo.osz
Nessuka
Awesome <3
Irreversible
Hi, Random mod because i found some things that maybe could help you, feel free to ignore them ^-^

[Insane]

00:16:171 (4) - I would move this to x:500 y:312. The reason is: It looks better with the next slider. Of course, yeah, it is harder to play, but with the direction of 00:15:703 (3) - you have to get there somehow anyway, just now you have to move your mouse a bit faster.
00:23:906 (8) - Just for aestetics (or however this is written): Move this a bit to the left.
00:38:437 (3,3) - I would add new combo here, just to get really sure that there is a SV change.
00:57:187 (7,8,9,10) - I don't think this extended sliders are needed, I think if you make them 1/4 shorter it will still be awesome to play (imo even better, i like listening to them more than the current version)
Not sure about that but:
01:25:546 (1) - remove NC
01:26:250 (2) - add NC

02:03:750 (1,2,3,4) - Between 1 and 2 i can see a rotation, but not at the others, why? I think it would fit
02:14:660 - You added SV changes here too, same NC suggestions as above
02:50:625 (1,2,3,4,5) - You can definetly improve that Star pattern, it looks weird (maybe its just me XD)

You really did a nice job here, the map is really very fitting with the song :D Sorry for the mod, but i felt like it :c, as I said, feel free to ignore

[TicClicks Hard]

00:50:625 (1) - Move this one to x: 128 y: 184? It would flow pretty well with the previous slider

Lol, that's the only suggestion i have so far, xD I really like the stacks!

[Normal]

AI Mod tells something about the spacing (cross the tick Distance Snap) Maybe you should check that, not sure if AI Mod is right oô

[Easy]

Same for easy! (as in normal)

Normal and Easy look fine for me, good luck for rank! :D

take my star for this awesome job :3
Topic Starter
SuperMIC

Irreversible wrote:

Hi, Random mod because i found some things that maybe could help you, feel free to ignore them ^-^

[Insane]

00:16:171 (4) - I would move this to x:500 y:312. The reason is: It looks better with the next slider. Of course, yeah, it is harder to play, but with the direction of 00:15:703 (3) - you have to get there somehow anyway, just now you have to move your mouse a bit faster. Flows well, done!
00:23:906 (8) - Just for aestetics (or however this is written): Move this a bit to the left. you missed an 'h' ;) aesthetics. anyhow, i moved it a bit further to the left. not much, because it's supposed to play like a stack!
00:38:437 (3,3) - I would add new combo here, just to get really sure that there is a SV change. agreed. done.
00:57:187 (7,8,9,10) - I don't think this extended sliders are needed, I think if you make them 1/4 shorter it will still be awesome to play (imo even better, i like listening to them more than the current version) oh dear, this has been an on-going issue with these 1/6 sliders. obviously I added them in and that means I thought they looked and played fine and I still think they do. at this point, I think it's just a matter of preferance. :s i have some people telling me to change and some people telling me to keep. im going to stick to my gut and keep it for now i think XD
Not sure about that but:
01:25:546 (1) - remove NC oh, nice catch. done and
01:26:250 (2) - add NC done

02:03:750 (1,2,3,4) - Between 1 and 2 i can see a rotation, but not at the others, why? I think it would fit remapped this pattern.
02:14:660 - You added SV changes here too, same NC suggestions as above le done
02:50:625 (1,2,3,4,5) - You can definetly improve that Star pattern, it looks weird (maybe its just me XD) waaaat how? :c

You really did a nice job here, the map is really very fitting with the song :D Sorry for the mod, but i felt like it :c, as I said, feel free to ignore never feel bad for modding! :o a mapper saying he doesnt want a mod is like saying you dont want free money and bacon. :3

[TicClicks Hard]

00:50:625 (1) - Move this one to x: 128 y: 184? It would flow pretty well with the previous slider fixed it upon his request :p also adjusted the angle of (3)

Lol, that's the only suggestion i have so far, xD I really like the stacks!

[Normal]

AI Mod tells something about the spacing (cross the tick Distance Snap) Maybe you should check that, not sure if AI Mod is right oô

[Easy]

Same for easy! (as in normal)

Normal and Easy look fine for me, good luck for rank! :D yay :D

AIMod didn't show anything for me. :o

take my star for this awesome job :3
Thank you so much for the mod and star! :D
Irreversible
LOL first i was like wtf everything written in red, gg xDD but cool that you changed nearly everything :)
Deventious
Good luck! :)
VelperK
oh gosh i came with that image. thx xD

also, good luck. Just a little more for rank!
FrzR
Hi~ Just wanted to try modding this map. I wub this song. :>
Ignore this if its not that good. ^^

[Easy]

If possible, please maintain proper distance snapping on Easy Difficulties. It could also aid the flow of the map :)

02:32:812 - Add note here with Clap Hitsound. Sounds better and has some nice flow in it.
02:40:312 (2) - Suggest not stacking it on the slider?
02:47:812 (4) - Same as the 1st one.
03:25:312 (3) - Same with 2nd.

[Normal]

00:58:593 (2) - Suggest moving this to X: 100 Y: 372 to have a better blanket. :)
02:24:375 (1) - Another Stack.
02:31:875 (1) - ^ Sorry, i feel like stacking these sliders can give trouble to some beginners.
02:45:000 (1) - Might wanna move this slider? It overlaps 02:45:937 (2).

The rest are already good. Just some minor problems that i hope could be fixed.
Good luck on your map!!
Topic Starter
SuperMIC
EXAMS ARE ALMOST DONE o3o

On the other hand, Freezer, I followed some of your points, but I think the stacks can stay because they are for the most part 1/2 apart and pretty readable. I'll see if anyone else complains.
D33d
God damn it, mic. Every time I come to play [Insane], I can't tell how much of it is needlessly awkward and how much of it is me not being a very good player. I'll try to mod this soon, I swear.

By the way, Skrilly seems to be on the warpath for ranked maps. I don't know why it's only ranked maps, but you're gonna have to prepare yourself for this to crumble. The subject's been discussed to death in modhelp, so there'll hopefully be enough people with enough conviction and interest to contact the man directly.
Low
https://gist.github.com/peppy/65634825af9a9f237407

i'm sorry, MIC. this can't be ranked, i'm pretty sure
Cobra

jacob wrote:

https://gist.github.com/peppy/65634825af9a9f237407
whaaaaaat
Shohei Ohtani
10/10
Aurele
Indeed..

I am kinda sad for it..
Elisha_old
It was such a good map...
D:
Topic Starter
SuperMIC
BULLSHIT

UKCKWKSFJLAMDWMS
Nessuka
This can still get ranked since First of the year is still in the rankings BUT the osz is on a remote server.

If you're denied this then I'd suggest you might want to reconsider contributing beatmaps to the osu! community.
Shohei Ohtani

SuperMICrophone wrote:

BULLSHIT

UKCKWKSFJLAMDWMS
Low

Ijah wrote:

This can still get ranked since First of the year is still in the rankings BUT the osz is on a remote server.

If you're denied this then I'd suggest you might want to reconsider contributing beatmaps to the osu! community.
what the hell are you talking about
Aurele

jacob wrote:

Ijah wrote:

This can still get ranked since First of the year is still in the rankings BUT the osz is on a remote server.

If you're denied this then I'd suggest you might want to reconsider contributing beatmaps to the osu! community.
what the hell are you talking about
Kinda wondering too, lol
69653863
Maybe he's suggesting to put this beatmap on the community (maybe forum or whatever) instead of this BSS server. I don't get the other point anyway.
TrigonometrY

Ijah wrote:

This can still get ranked since First of the year is still in the rankings BUT the osz is on a remote server.

If you're denied this then I'd suggest you might want to reconsider contributing beatmaps to the osu! community.
It might be a good way, because result of played map is still stored, only download link was removed.
Nessuka

TrigonometrY wrote:

Ijah wrote:

This can still get ranked since First of the year is still in the rankings BUT the osz is on a remote server.

If you're denied this then I'd suggest you might want to reconsider contributing beatmaps to the osu! community.
It might be a good way, because result of played map is still stored, only download link was removed.
Someone understands \:D/

What I meant:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/56791
The download link was removed from the download button, but yesterday either the author or a moderator added a remote download link in the description (or first post as it were) to download it without getting osu! or peppy in any trouble.

However, someone has reverted that for some stupid reason and the first post no longer includes a download link.
This would have been fully legal and would have caused NO TROUBLE for peppy whatsoever, and if they really gave a fuck then they'd file a complaint to the remote site hosting the file.


And what I'm saying in the other part is that if because of this little copyright problem you refuse to rank an excellent map without trying some other method of distributing the map without it being on the BSS server, then I think the ranking system is a big pile of bollocks.
69653863

Ijah wrote:

What I meant:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/56791
The download link was removed from the download button, but yesterday either the author or a moderator added a remote download link in the description (or first post as it were) to download it without getting osu! or peppy in any trouble.

However, someone has reverted that for some stupid reason and the first post no longer includes a download link.
This would have been fully legal and would have caused NO TROUBLE for peppy whatsoever, and if they really gave a fuck then they'd file a complaint to the remote site hosting the file.
Wow, didn't see that one also removed.
Starz0r

CDFA wrote:

SuperMICrophone wrote:

BULLSHIT

UKCKWKSFJLAMDWMS
TicClick
gotta live through
Shohei Ohtani
Got to Live and Learn
Topic Starter
SuperMIC
can we do that though itd make me happy

plsplsplsplsplsplsplspls

also hahahah did anyone else notice rock 'n' roll wasnt on the infringement list

its like they said "oh this hasnt been ranked in over a year" and then decided it was dead
69653863
More like they're too lazy/didn't know to find any other Skrillex map on Pending or Graveyard.
Topic Starter
SuperMIC
but no really what do at this point? :(
Shohei Ohtani
The reason that only ranked maps were DMCA'd was because probably when they were searching for beatmaps, they didn't think to look inside of the "Pending/WIP/Graved" beatmaps. Especially since those aren't as heavily advertised as the Ranked/Approved beatmaps.

Mostly because I doubt a person working for the record label is very knowledgeable about stuff like that, since they more than likely don't play the game that often.
_dog
I do believe this map can still be ranked since Skrillex released this track a long time ago as a free track. It's even a free download link in his youtube video description. It was passed around as a promotional track. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOofWzI3flA Check Description.

Hope this can get cleared up.
Shohei Ohtani
hahaha its happening omg
Avena
Not really a mod, but maybe try AR9 (and even HP6, since the drain is kinda annoying in certain parts that don't have THAT many notes)
Roxas

TheGrimOfCrazy wrote:

I do believe this map can still be ranked since Skrillex released this track a long time ago as a free track. It's even a free download link in his youtube video description. It was passed around as a promotional track. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOofWzI3flA Check Description.

Hope this can get cleared up.
That link redirect to iTunes page...
Shohei Ohtani
maybe you should make a phone call to Skrillex INC and be like "i want map rank pls help"
Roxas

CDFA wrote:

maybe you should make a phone call to Skrillex INC and be like "i want map rank pls help"
+999999999999999
Stefan

Roxas wrote:

CDFA wrote:

maybe you should make a phone call to Skrillex INC and be like "i want map rank pls help"
+999999999999999

Anyway I still hate Skrillex, so.
BounceBabe

Stefan wrote:

Anyway I still hate Skrillex, so.
Stefan xD
VelperK
RIP
-Ryuujii-

WasteK wrote:

RIP
:(
Hyperspace

SuperMICrophone wrote:

BULLSHIT

UKCKWKSFJLAMDWMS
TicClick
hey smic how it's going
Topic Starter
SuperMIC

TicClick wrote:

hey smic how it's going
i haven't played in months
TicClick
that's negligible
Arf

Hakard wrote:

SuperMICrophone wrote:

BULLSHIT

UKCKWKSFJLAMDWMS
I knew this would come back. I friggin knew it.
Constantine
\omg its alive/

gogogogogo
TicClick
http://puu.sh/mWYah/7e0977d023.zip
by the way, the correct title is: Rock N' Roll (Will Take You to the Mountain) (source)
Zexous
IT'S ALIVE
Kibbleru
okayy lets see here

insane
00:35:502 (1) - a bit inconsistent here with ur rhythm choice, previously u always mapped 00:35:385 - and skipped 00:35:502 - personally i'd recommend something like this, u can also emphasize 00:35:620 - more this way.
00:51:557 (2) - imo think this could be spaced even more u could probably stack it on 00:50:151 (8) - if u want, then you can adjust the placement of the previous slider to adjust spacing.
01:02:924 (6,7) - minor suggestion, if u ctrl g these, it would flow to the next slider a bit better i think.
01:47:690 (5,6) - ^
02:27:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - could fit the wubby music better if you made some zig zag streams?
same applies with other places like 02:34:682 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
as for stuff like 02:23:432 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i dont think u can change this anymore haha ><
02:00:112 (2) - hmm isnt this kinda overmapped? oh well it kinda fits i guess?
02:36:010 (2) - i think the small spacing should be 02:35:620 (1,2) - and the big spacing should be 02:36:010 (2,1) -

tic click
now that is a name i havent seen in a while
00:49:570 (2,3) - uh.. this rhythm? i guess it sorta works as an additive part..
01:04:687 (4,5) - you could but a bit of a jump here.
01:26:250 (1,2) - uh are these intended to be parallel? (they aren't)

normal
00:15:937 (2,3,2,3) - uhm, why don't you stay consistent to ur rhythming? for 00:19:687 (3) - etc
00:36:562 (4,5) - kinda weird to map 00:37:031 - when it doesn't have a sound, i would just recommend using 1 big 3/2 slider for this part
01:18:750 (1) - for these cases i think u should just ignore the 1/3 and map the dominant white ticks
01:24:375 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - the 1/2 chain is a bit long here imo, consider breaking it up somewhere.
01:48:046 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - ^
02:30:937 (2,1) - uh. nothing too bad, just kinda weird u decide to stack this all of a sudden, i assume its cuz ur running out of space?
tbh it looks more like an advanced to me due to the rhythms.

easy
00:21:562 (3) - 3/4 sliders in easy,, may need some discussion o_O.

okayy. so i would rename easy to normal, and normal to advanced, and buff tic's diff a bit.
spread is kinda in a weird position atm i think.
Hula
all of the motherfucking hype!
TicClick
p[erhaps it's better to get an extra difficulty inbetween hard and insane, I don't feel like "buffing" anything now http://puu.sh/n1Eht/12181a0905.zip
Kibbleru

TicClick wrote:

p[erhaps it's better to get an extra difficulty inbetween hard and insane, I don't feel like "buffing" anything now http://puu.sh/n1Eht/12181a0905.zip
that works as well
Topic Starter
SuperMIC

Kibbleru wrote:

okayy lets see here

insane
00:35:502 (1) - a bit inconsistent here with ur rhythm choice, previously u always mapped 00:35:385 - and skipped 00:35:502 - personally i'd recommend something like this, u can also emphasize 00:35:620 - more this way. changed
00:51:557 (2) - imo think this could be spaced even more u could probably stack it on 00:50:151 (8) - if u want, then you can adjust the placement of the previous slider to adjust spacing. changed
01:02:924 (6,7) - minor suggestion, if u ctrl g these, it would flow to the next slider a bit better i think. agree
01:47:690 (5,6) - ^ mmm, disagree here
02:27:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - could fit the wubby music better if you made some zig zag streams? agree
same applies with other places like 02:34:682 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - yup
as for stuff like 02:23:432 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i dont think u can change this anymore haha >< tried something
02:00:112 (2) - hmm isnt this kinda overmapped? oh well it kinda fits i guess? the "lo" of "hello" is the beat here
02:36:010 (2) - i think the small spacing should be 02:35:620 (1,2) - and the big spacing should be 02:36:010 (2,1) - agree

normal
00:15:937 (2,3,2,3) - uhm, why don't you stay consistent to ur rhythming? for 00:19:687 (3) - etc rhythms are grouped in twos, fixed some of them later on
00:36:562 (4,5) - kinda weird to map 00:37:031 - when it doesn't have a sound, i would just recommend using 1 big 3/2 slider for this part disagree, mapping to vocals
01:18:750 (1) - for these cases i think u should just ignore the 1/3 and map the dominant white ticks changed
01:24:375 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - the 1/2 chain is a bit long here imo, consider breaking it up somewhere. changed
01:48:046 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - ^ disagree here because of the 1/1 slider
02:30:937 (2,1) - uh. nothing too bad, just kinda weird u decide to stack this all of a sudden, i assume its cuz ur running out of space? eh i like this
tbh it looks more like an advanced to me due to the rhythms.

easy
00:21:562 (3) - 3/4 sliders in easy,, may need some discussion o_O. yeah idk maybe it's different nowadays

okayy. so i would rename easy to normal, and normal to advanced, and buff tic's diff a bit.
spread is kinda in a weird position atm i think. time to map another difficulty :cry:
thanks kibble!
Shohei Ohtani
I remember fucking loving this map back in 2012 and I remember the mega salt when Skrillex got DMCA'd lmfao

Insane:
00:48:745 - This SV change feels REALLY sudden. It may be better to save the 1.5x until the chorus so it's more effective
01:05:620 (1) - i forget if these are rankable lmfao
02:22:495 - I generally feel that half-time feel sections like this should be mapped more in a DiamondCrash style rather than a slowed SV stlye but like ok

Hard:
fine

Advanced:
00:15:000 - there's claps on every tick why are you omitting beat 4
Technically I could get mad about slidertrains but like meh. It's not too bad, and the AR is high enough to where it doesn't look clumpy

Normal:
nice

i really liked this map in 2012 and i still like it now
Topic Starter
SuperMIC

Reditum wrote:

I remember fucking loving this map back in 2012 and I remember the mega salt when Skrillex got DMCA'd lmfao

Insane:
00:48:745 - This SV change feels REALLY sudden. It may be better to save the 1.5x until the chorus so it's more effective
01:05:620 (1) - i forget if these are rankable lmfao will clarify; also is easy to change i just like it lel
02:22:495 - I generally feel that half-time feel sections like this should be mapped more in a DiamondCrash style rather than a slowed SV stlye but like ok interesting idea, but i think i'll keep them slow for now

Hard:
fine

Advanced:
00:15:000 - there's claps on every tick why are you omitting beat 4 changed
Technically I could get mad about slidertrains but like meh. It's not too bad, and the AR is high enough to where it doesn't look clumpy

Normal:
nice thank

i really liked this map in 2012 and i still like it now
thank you so much for the support <3
Osuology
[General]
The skin's hitcircles don't fit together completely, they don't fit.
Timing points conflict??

[Advanced]
00:19:687 (3,1) - Please do not overlap like this, not for prettyness, but for reading ability of normal players. Try to fix all the others, since I won't list them. I have a schedule you know!
00:26:015 (3,1) - This I think is fine, even though it's the same gap between the two as the previous, it's not a slider this time.

[Hard]
Has a different start than normal?? It should be the same, drain time should be the same.
00:57:187 (6) - Ugh that approach circle is off screen, it bothers me. Hard players might not be able to read also.
01:24:843 (3,7) - NOT AGAIN ^
01:35:156 (4) - Ok now the hit circle is offscreen, this is getting crazy. I'm not gonna list anymore of these, look out for em.
01:41:718 (2,3,4) - Inconsistent DS.
03:10:781 (7) - I understand this is the last chorus and thus difficulty should go up, but I want to make sure that's what you wanted.
03:30:468 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - A bit long and hard to aim. Might be too hard for hard (no pun intended)

[Hyper]
00:44:409 (4) - Seems like it should start on blue tick no?
01:05:151 (6,1,2) - Very bouncy, might be too hard.
01:14:760 (7) - If you're gonna have a 1/4 slider, maybe point it towards next slider?
01:29:760 (9) - This twice with OD 6.8? I doubt it.
02:08:784 (4) - Again, shouldn't it start on blue tick?
02:24:252 (8,1) - Jump intentional?
02:31:752 (8,1) - You copied and pasted so ^
02:35:502 (8,1) - I won't list these anymore so look out!
03:03:745 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - May be too hard.
03:07:495 (1,2,3,4,5) - Whoa, I'm not even sure I could FC that, and I'm ~4k!
Difficulty at the last chorus could be too much, but that might be me.

[Insane]
00:25:073 (6) - NC? Please?
00:34:213 (3,4) - DS plz?
00:56:948 (6,7) - whoa I didn't read that right, I thought it was a hit circle :o
01:05:620 (1) - I thought these were unrankable???
01:22:495 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't look good to me, but it fits rhythm so...
01:40:698 (6) - Slightly offscreen slider.
01:41:010 (7) - Also overlaps
01:45:463 (2) - Oh come on you too? Look out for offscreen stuff please...
02:50:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - WHOA. That came unexpectedly. Doesn't match up with total difficulty.
Topic Starter
SuperMIC

Osuology wrote:

[General]
The skin's hitcircles don't fit together completely, they don't fit. i'll have to ask ticclick lel
Timing points conflict?? good catch thanks

[Advanced]
00:19:687 (3,1) - Please do not overlap like this, not for prettyness, but for reading ability of normal players. Try to fix all the others, since I won't list them. I have a schedule you know! there's not much I can do given the fact that constant distance spacing is necessary at this level of play, with reason actually being readability! so I don't think I can really change this
00:26:015 (3,1) - This I think is fine, even though it's the same gap between the two as the previous, it's not a slider this time.

[Hyper]
00:44:409 (4) - Seems like it should start on blue tick no? I'm following the pattern used at 00:40:307 (3,4) - , but blue tick definitely has a stronger rhythm. I will get more opinions
01:05:151 (6,1,2) - Very bouncy, might be too hard. reduced spacing
01:14:760 (7) - If you're gonna have a 1/4 slider, maybe point it towards next slider? changed for now, ds is a little inconsistent but we'll see what happens
01:29:760 (9) - This twice with OD 6.8? I doubt it. I think it's fine as they're sliders
02:08:784 (4) - Again, shouldn't it start on blue tick? as above
02:24:252 (8,1) - Jump intentional? yes
02:31:752 (8,1) - You copied and pasted so ^ ^
02:35:502 (8,1) - I won't list these anymore so look out!
03:03:745 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - May be too hard. I think 1/2 stacks at this difficulty are fine
03:07:495 (1,2,3,4,5) - Whoa, I'm not even sure I could FC that, and I'm ~4k! but it's the exact same spacing as the first kiai ;w;
Difficulty at the last chorus could be too much, but that might be me.

[Insane]
00:25:073 (6) - NC? Please? doesn't follow the NC pattern; I have NC's at the start of "hello again to all my friends" and "together we can play some rock n roll"
00:34:213 (3,4) - DS plz? wow current spacing is atrocious lmao
00:56:948 (6,7) - whoa I didn't read that right, I thought it was a hit circle :o should be ok
01:05:620 (1) - I thought these were unrankable??? i think so too; i'll ask a qat or bn
01:22:495 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't look good to me, but it fits rhythm so... (1,2,3) versus (3,4,5) movements are supposed to reflect the different sub-melodies in the music
01:40:698 (6) - Slightly offscreen slider. will look fine in play
01:41:010 (7) - Also overlaps reason is because it's 1/6 instead of 1/4 ;w;
01:45:463 (2) - Oh come on you too? Look out for offscreen stuff please... again it's fully visible in play
02:50:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - WHOA. That came unexpectedly. Doesn't match up with total difficulty. agree, scaled down 0.75
Thanks so much!
TicClick
Osuology

Osuology wrote:

[Hard]
Has a different start than normal?? It should be the same, drain time should be the same. ..what? Who told you that? Besides, it is the same
00:57:187 (6) - Ugh that approach circle is off screen, it bothers me. Hard players might not be able to read also. the hitcircle itself is on screen, though, and is perfectly readable
01:24:843 (3,7) - NOT AGAIN ^ see above
01:35:156 (4) - Ok now the hit circle is offscreen, this is getting crazy. I'm not gonna list anymore of these, look out for em. see above, it's fully visible http://puu.sh/nePeI/a9a81c75e2.jpg
01:41:718 (2,3,4) - Inconsistent DS. the difference is less than 0.1 and is necessary for this pattern
03:10:781 (7) - I understand this is the last chorus and thus difficulty should go up, but I want to make sure that's what you wanted. yes, that is what I wanted. Due to slider mechanics, it's easily passable and enjoyable to play, it's also not the first jump you meet in the difficulty, so it's kind of strange of you to point it out
03:30:468 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - A bit long and hard to aim. Might be too hard for hard (no pun intended) I fail to see what's so hard about following 6 notes @ 128 bpm
Osuology

TicClick wrote:

Osuology

Osuology wrote:

[Hard]
Has a different start than normal?? It should be the same, drain time should be the same. ..what? Who told you that? Besides, it is the same
I mean as the normal diff, it's not same. Whether that's your issue or the whole mapset, I am pretty sure they should be the same. Maybe I am wrong tho.
hent2222
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Cloudchaser
Place holder for future modding 83
makemecool123
You should try higher AR from insane because its a bit not fun
why do you refer ar9 or ar8?
Topic Starter
SuperMIC

makemecool123 wrote:

You should try higher AR from insane because its a bit not fun
why do you refer ar9 or ar8?
I agree. Changed to AR9 for now, and little buff to OD 7.5. Also adjusted Hyper difficulty settings accordingly to fit spread.
Lasse
m4m from modhelp, lol
my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/436799

General

  1. shouldnt your comboburst be mirrored? http://i.imgur.com/66Zc2S3.jpg seems a bit odd to me
  2. bg hitsound and skin files seem fine
  3. using a silent normal-sliderslide would be nice for the "calmer" parts

Insane

  1. how about some ar ~8.7? I played it with 8.7 first and then with 9 and 8.7 seemed really nice to, but both work
  2. 00:15:703 (3) - only slider to end on a clap+ "vocal" for this whole section and it feels a bit unfitting
    ctrl+g on this rhythm: 00:15:468 (2,3) - would work better imo
  3. 00:52:968 (3,4,5) - such an obtuse angle doesnt really fit with how strong 4 is since you dont hcange your movement or anything to hit it. maybe you could at least try sth like http://i.imgur.com/67Arzyb.jpg to make 4 and 5 feel a bit more important?
  4. 00:58:828 (4) - tried a 1/4 kickslider here? seems nice with the sound on blue tick and etc
    01:13:828 (4) - same here
  5. 01:14:062 (5,6,7) - how about making this stream a little more "wobbly" or anything? the sounds seem pretty unique so it should stand out a bit
  6. 01:20:156 (5) - splitting this into two repeat sliders at 01:20:390 - would work well with the music, but might be a little harder to read. but since the sounds are so different, having them on the same slider feels a bit unfitting
  7. 01:38:203 (4,5) - why stack? 5 is so strong and you never stacked sth like this before
  8. 02:03:281 - feels a bit strong to skip, maybe try http://i.imgur.com/xoBVhSj.jpg
  9. 02:04:687 - really feels like it should be clickable with strong clap and all
  10. really liking the "wub" part
  11. 02:42:656 - how about splitting this here? goes nicely with the music and such a long held slider in this part is a bit underwhelming :?
enjoyed playing this, even though I normally don't really like this bpm since I'm too slow to singletap the 1/4 my finger control is too bad too porperly stream it, lol

Hyper

  1. 02:39:375 (3,4,5,6,7) - less spacing would fit better here imo since it doesnt really seem this strong compared to the ones before and in exchange space 02:41:250 (1,2,3,4) - more since you space those "wub streams" a bit normally
  2. 03:20:625 (1) - idk shape of this feels a bit out of placed compared to all other sliders in this diff, lol


TicCl!ck

  1. 01:29:296 (6,7,8) - spacing this like 01:28:125 (1,2) - would work really well if you change it 01:44:296 (6,7,8) - should be made consistent with ot obv. same for second kiai
  2. 03:16:875 (1,2) - why the stack when you usually space them normally?
  3. 03:28:125 (1,2,3,4) - only time you map this pattern with a stack instead?
looks pretty solid besides the stacks I don't understand, lol


Advanced

  1. 01:03:281 (5,1) - could make the movement a bit more intuitive. if people follow this normally they would expect sth like http://i.imgur.com/pIT16AP.jpg
  2. 03:26:484 (2,3,4) - rather weird pattern for such a low diff imo
so looking at this made me worry a bit about the spread. hard already uses lots of 1/4 (which is totally fine at this bpm) but this doesnt really use any :/


Normal

  1. not really liking the 5/4 gaps on such a low diff, but they don't really seem avoidable with how the music goes so I guess it's fine anyways
  2. 01:03:750 (1,2) - stacks aren't that nice for a lowest diff, especially if they occur kinda randomly :?
    + then later taacking 1/1 at 01:11:250 (1,2) - doesnt work very well
gl with ranking
TicClick
applied first two points http://puu.sh/o2htL/2cd12ca459.zip
as for stacks and the last one, I don't really remember how I mapped what, I just do whatever I find the most suitable right now, in the very second I lay notes on the grid. As far as I can remember, 03:28:125 (1,2,3,4) - is a result of remapping when I tried my best to keep most of previously used objects little or unchanged at all
Topic Starter
SuperMIC

Lasse wrote:

m4m from modhelp, lol
my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/436799

General

  1. shouldnt your comboburst be mirrored? http://i.imgur.com/66Zc2S3.jpg seems a bit odd to me will get more opinions it's an easy fix
  2. bg hitsound and skin files seem fine
  3. using a silent normal-sliderslide would be nice for the "calmer" parts meh, think it's fine as is

Insane

  1. how about some ar ~8.7? I played it with 8.7 first and then with 9 and 8.7 seemed really nice to, but both work happy medium at 8.8 LOL
  2. 00:15:703 (3) - only slider to end on a clap+ "vocal" for this whole section and it feels a bit unfitting
    ctrl+g on this rhythm: 00:15:468 (2,3) - would work better imo agree, but did something a little different
  3. 00:52:968 (3,4,5) - such an obtuse angle doesnt really fit with how strong 4 is since you dont hcange your movement or anything to hit it. maybe you could at least try sth like http://i.imgur.com/67Arzyb.jpg to make 4 and 5 feel a bit more important? completely agree
  4. 00:58:828 (4) - tried a 1/4 kickslider here? seems nice with the sound on blue tick and etc WOW that's nice
    01:13:828 (4) - same here yes
  5. 01:14:062 (5,6,7) - how about making this stream a little more "wobbly" or anything? the sounds seem pretty unique so it should stand out a bit sure
  6. 01:20:156 (5) - splitting this into two repeat sliders at 01:20:390 - would work well with the music, but might be a little harder to read. but since the sounds are so different, having them on the same slider feels a bit unfitting changed
  7. 01:38:203 (4,5) - why stack? 5 is so strong and you never stacked sth like this before i get where you're coming from but i like the stack here
  8. 02:03:281 - feels a bit strong to skip, maybe try http://i.imgur.com/xoBVhSj.jpg sacrificing that to stress the vocals
  9. 02:04:687 - really feels like it should be clickable with strong clap and all but agreed here
  10. really liking the "wub" part thank :D
  11. 02:42:656 - how about splitting this here? goes nicely with the music and such a long held slider in this part is a bit underwhelming :? hmmm, i think the electronic sound justifies the hold though
enjoyed playing this, even though I normally don't really like this bpm since I'm too slow to singletap the 1/4 my finger control is too bad too porperly stream it, lol

Hyper

  1. 02:39:375 (3,4,5,6,7) - less spacing would fit better here imo since it doesnt really seem this strong compared to the ones before and in exchange space 02:41:250 (1,2,3,4) - more since you space those "wub streams" a bit normally disagree with both just because of preference
  2. 03:20:625 (1) - idk shape of this feels a bit out of placed compared to all other sliders in this diff, lol agreed

Advanced

  1. 01:03:281 (5,1) - could make the movement a bit more intuitive. if people follow this normally they would expect sth like http://i.imgur.com/pIT16AP.jpg edited slider shape
  2. 03:26:484 (2,3,4) - rather weird pattern for such a low diff imo i think it should be ok....?
so looking at this made me worry a bit about the spread. hard already uses lots of 1/4 (which is totally fine at this bpm) but this doesnt really use any :/ i'll definitely keep that in mind; but in my view my rationale would be that this diff is 1/2 heavy


Normal

  1. not really liking the 5/4 gaps on such a low diff, but they don't really seem avoidable with how the music goes so I guess it's fine anyways
  2. 01:03:750 (1,2) - stacks aren't that nice for a lowest diff, especially if they occur kinda randomly :?
    + then later taacking 1/1 at 01:11:250 (1,2) - doesnt work very well changed some stacks
gl with ranking

thanks again!
konatatasan234_
4 years? :o I mean, how come it hasn't been ranked? :?:
TheLeviathan

konatatasan234_ wrote:

4 years? :o I mean, how come it hasn't been ranked? :?:
Probably because it's Skrillex. Skrillex wanted so all his maps were removed, that's why you can't find any skrillex map now. On official osu website at least
makemecool123

TheLeviathan wrote:

konatatasan234_ wrote:

4 years? :o I mean, how come it hasn't been ranked? :?:
Probably because it's Skrillex. Skrillex wanted so all his maps were removed, that's why you can't find any skrillex map now. On official osu website at least
True
Mechanizen
Hey o/

Free Mod requested on #Modreqs

These are small things, this mapset is realy cool !


Normal


00:48:750 (1,2,3,4,5) - This the building up after a drop, even if it's a normal diff there should be more density here since there is a load of sounds. A newbie will clic (1) thinking it becomes faster but actuly it's not so you should place objects on 1/2 tics, to do something like this :
And doing this the 2 last sliders are placed on the squeeze sound.

Advanced

You should put AR 5 on this, or i will make a huge gap between Advanced and Hard ARs (4 to 7,5).

TicCl!ck's Hard

01:07:500 (1,2) - A clap hitsound at the end of the slider would fit the music and the short time gap between 1 and 2 aswell. And so for every paterns with a time spacing like this.

01:44:296 (6) - There is no special beat there :/ remove this circle, and it will simplify the rythm aswell!

03:04:687 (4,5,6,7,1) - A slider would fit much more instead of 2 circles (7,1), the slider will give a movement to the last beat to first make like that drummer's movement. Like his hand is traveling to the drum to make the last beat. And second announce the pause right after this.

03:14:414 (6,7) - Same as 01:44:296

03:29:414 (6,7) - ^

03:35:625 (1,2,3,1) - Place hitsound clap on every objects there.

Hyper

00:51:210 (3,4) - Reduce the spacing between these 2, this is not an appropried spacing for a 3* diff :3 and make a new combo aswell.

Insane

00:47:460 (3,4) - You should unstack a bit these 2 to make peoples see that it is 1/4 and not 1/2, it can be confusing now. (00:48:398 (3,4) - These aswell)

02:22:968 (2,1) - Put a smaller spacing between these 2 because they are not snaped on the same division (1/6 and 1/4) so they shouldn't have the same spacing. Do the same for every paterns with this rythm that needs to be changed if you agree with it.

Hope this will get ranked, 4 years tho! Gl!
Namki
Hello. As Tic requested.

[Normal]
  1. 00:16:875 (1,2) - some bad DS.
  2. 00:15:937 (3) - / 00:21:562 (3) - / 00:20:039 - / 00:23:437 (2) - / 00:25:312 (3) - etc. there's kick on blue tick and clap on white tick. You emphasizing different sounds and it looks random and senseless. Make patterns that will make sense — full 3/4, full 1/1, half 1/1 and half 3/4 and so on.
  3. 00:18:750 - strong beat. I'd like you to start an object from strong downbeat. Sounds better.
  4. 00:36:562 (2) - mapped for the vocals. 00:37:265 - must be clickable. A 3/4 slider and a circle will work better here.
  5. I really do not like these strong beats skipping 00:37:968 - / 00:39:843 - / 00:43:593 - and others.
  6. 00:45:000 (1) - 1/1 gap isn't enough for the easiest diff. 2/1 for 128 bpm will be OK.
  7. 01:08:437 (2,3,4) - if you emphasized this 01:08:671 - then you should do the same thing to this 01:09:140 - . So I suggest to remove this 01:08:671 - .
  8. 01:15:000 - the same stuff with a downbeat. And there's a lot of them.
  9. 01:30:000 (1,2) -
  10. 01:40:312 (3) - 1/6 snapping in Normal. It's better to not make it complex. 1/1 work well.
  11. 01:52:500 (5) - NC makes sense.
  12. 02:15:000 (1) - recover time, ye.
  13. 02:39:375 (1,2) - confusing pattern. Space it by 0.7x as you did before.
  14. 02:50:625 (1) - listen to it. From here 02:51:562 - music changes, so you need to emphasize it. And make this blanket 02:51:796 - . From my side this makes much more sense.
  15. 03:24:609 (2,3) - ^^^.
[Adv]
  1. 00:36:562 (4,5) - one 1/2 reverse sounds better.
  2. 01:18:750 (1) - two 1/2 sliders instead? Imo sounds kinda good.
  3. 01:20:625 - NC makes sense.
  4. 01:26:015 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - due to this pattern is complex I suggest to make 1/1 slider instead of those two sliders 01:26:250 (3,4) - and this 1/2 gap 01:26:953 - sounds fine.
  5. 01:32:812 - place a circle!
  6. 01:38:437 (1) - doesn't really make sense this NC.
  7. 01:40:312 (3) - ye, 1/6 is complex for Adv. Make it easier.
  8. 01:47:812 - ^^^.
  9. 02:40:312 (4) - isn't it seem to be parallel? I think it seems to be!
  10. 02:42:187 (2,3,4) - 3/4 slider reveres instead work better. This beats isn't really audible 02:42:656 - / 02:42:890 - , so it does not make big sense to place circles.
  11. 03:05:625 - strong, emphasizing it would sound better and make more sense to patterns.
  12. 03:11:718 (2,3) - not really a good idea to break the spacing here if you were mapping the entire map for 1x.
  13. 03:18:750 (2,3) - the same as above for 1/1 and 1/2 gap.
  14. Spacing changes look out of the context (if you used only one spacing for the whole map) 03:26:718 (3,4) - / 03:27:656 (6,1) - .
  15. 03:32:812 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - really complex 1/2 pattern. Maybe try to make somewhere 1/2 recover gap?
[TicClick's Hard]
  1. 00:45:000 (1,1) - думаю, 1/1 гап недостаточно для хардика.
  2. 01:06:562 (1,2,3,4) - а вот тут делаешь начало линейное флоу, а четверка куда-то в сторону уходит. Давай-ка четверку левее.
  3. 01:20:625 (1) - ну да.
  4. 01:31:406 (1) - вот тут НК не нужно. Если смотреть на другие такие паттерны (типа такого 01:38:906 (5) - ).
  5. 03:31:171 - странно, до этого же пропускал в подобных местах. Бтв, звучит с этим серклом там овермапнуто.
    Сказать нечего, очень чистенько.
[Hyper]
  1. 00:23:203 (4,5) - okay, minor and my opinion. But as this isn't the highest diff, maybe it's not the best idea to emphasize those really quiet sounds. Make a kick-slider instead? More like which one you prefer.
  2. 01:42:187 (4,5,6,7) - honestly, don't like this kind of overmapping according to quiet 1/4 vocal. 1/2 fits better.
  3. 03:19:687 (6,7,8,9) - same as above.
  4. 03:34:687 (6,7,8,9) - and here.
    The rest is really good!
[Insane]
  1. Here I can hear some overmapping.
    00:22:617 - no really audible sound in music.
    00:25:078 (6,7) - and here. Kick-slider will fit better.
    02:00:117 - and others.
  2. Some slider-shapes are awful as well.
    00:42:187 (1,3) - this is more better from aesthetic side.
    00:57:656 (9) - why not just a simple curve with one anchor?
    02:12:187 (1,3) - ^^^.
  3. 01:05:625 (1) - there was something in RC about sliders with huge amount of red anchor and slider speed without a green line. But I think this is fine.
  4. 02:52:500 - NC!
  5. 03:27:187 (3,4,5,6) - huge spaced stream for quiet sounds in music is bad idea.
  6. 03:34:687 (7,8,9,10) - I can hear 1/2.
  7. 03:37:500 - and the very last thing is NC!
good luck~! hope I can see it ranked soon!
TicClick
Mechanizen

Mechanizen wrote:

TicCl!ck's Hard
  1. 01:07:500 (1,2) - A clap hitsound at the end of the slider would fit the music and the short time gap between 1 and 2 aswell. And so for every paterns with a time spacing like this. probably, except it shouldn't be a clap, but something more of a plain kick, and I also like it better the way it currently is
  2. 01:44:296 (6) - There is no special beat there :/ remove this circle, and it will simplify the rhythm aswell! there actually is, although it's weaker than everything else; this will also make the rhythm more complex, given the unusual gap between the hit objects
  3. 03:04:687 (4,5,6,7,1) - A slider would fit much more instead of 2 circles (7,1), the slider will give a movement to the last beat to first make like that drummer's movement. Like his hand is traveling to the drum to make the last beat. And second announce the pause right after this. it';s gonna shadow the downbeat @ 03:05:625 -
  4. 03:14:414 (6,7) - Same as 01:44:296 same as before
  5. 03:29:414 (6,7) - ^ ^
  6. 03:35:625 (1,2,3,1) - Place hitsound clap on every objects there. it's too noisy and unnecessary, doesn't make a good arrange
Namki

Namki wrote:

[TicClick's Hard]
  1. 00:45:000 (1,1) - думаю, 1/1 гап недостаточно для хардика. вообще=то достаточно
  2. 01:06:562 (1,2,3,4) - а вот тут делаешь начало линейное флоу, а четверка куда-то в сторону уходит. Давай-ка четверку левее. разницы никакой
  3. 01:20:625 (1) - ну да. не знаю, что ты имел в виду, но тут спиннер больше, чем крохотный перерыв, подходит
  4. 01:31:406 (1) - вот тут НК не нужно. Если смотреть на другие такие паттерны (типа такого 01:38:906 (5) - ). да, это осталось от прошлой версии дифки, здесь был стек с паузой в 1/1
  5. 03:31:171 - странно, до этого же пропускал в подобных местах. Бтв, звучит с этим серклом там овермапнуто. я почти повёлся, но потом вспомнил, что решил сделать второй киаи более насыщенным (= без пауз)

Thanks! I hope SMIC's on his way to write you two a reply.
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