Sey wrote:

[Newtoniorock's Platter]

1. 00:02:677 (3) - There's a small jump in this section and that's not a good idea for the beginning of a map. You should center it between 00:02:248 (2) - and 00:03:105 (4) - . x: 256 is working fine here.
2. 00:03:319 (5) - Jumps like this at the beginning of a map are just not a good idea. It is also not fitting to well with the rhythm. Move it much more left to center it between 00:03:105 (4) - and 00:03:534 (6) - . x: 288 is working fine here.
3. 00:06:534 (3) - Same as above. Sorry but those jumps are just weird at the beginning. x:260 on grid level 4 is working fine for this note.
4. 00:16:177 (2,3) - There's a HDash here but not here: 00:17:034 (2,3) - . I can see that you wanted to keep the map symmetrical but on some parts it is just weird. Here for example I recommend you highly to use the same distance just horicontal flipped as in 00:17:034 (2,3) - which means: Erase the HDash, it does not even fit with the rhythm of the song here and comes too surprisingly.
5. 00:20:891 (4) - , 00:22:177 (4) - looks far more interesting and challenging if you rotate them clockwise. Like here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/935985
6. 00:21:748 (2,3) - Ok another thing. HDash appears here, it is ok like that. Anyway, if you want to use HDash here use it also on the sections that sound exactly the same way because those are part of the Kiai and the Kiai is almost as easy as the non-kiai. I make you some suggestions where to put some HDashes but please keep in mind that it's still a Platter and shouldn't be too hard: 00:24:962 (1,2,3) - This part is extremely boring to play and has the same rhythm as the part where you used a HDash before, 00:18:105 (1,2,3,4) - same counts for this section, kinda boring and too easy to play for a Kiai,
7. 00:28:391 (4) - Highly suggest you not to move this note so close to the spinner. Ranking Criteria: "Avoid placing notes closer than 1/2 to a spinner (1/2 is acceptable) as far as possible. This is because, depending on the BPM of the song and length of the spinner self, fruits are largely indistinguishable from spinner fruits when too close together." Nothing against 1/2 distance but in this song the fruit itself is too close on the spinner, so that the spinner appears in a very surprising moment. What can we do to avoid this? Let the spinner start at 00:28:391 - to create a 1/1 distance.
8. 00:32:462 (4,5) - Wut? You made the Kiai so easy and now this jump in a non-kiai? Please reduce distance here and make it easier. Jumps like this fit much better in the Kiai.
9. 00:33:319 (2,3) - Too surprising HDash, also not fitting with the rhythm here at all. Highly suggest to reduce distance here.
10. 00:38:034 (4) - Too much left, center it between 00:37:819 (3) - and 00:38:247 (5) -

Try to find more modders for the CTB difficulties. I can already tell that those need more improvement.
Still good luck with your map.

ok thanks!

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IZIMAKO wrote:

I receive your mod request in my modding queue.

I can't find problem of your map. But I want to suggest something.

Easy

How about Change like pictures?

I think that make more pleasure to play

00:08:677 (1) -
http://puu.sh/4694q.png
00:10:391 (3) -
http://puu.sh/4695z.png

that would require lots of changes on previous notes to keep the consistent distance snap , i'm fine with the current

Normal

Circle Size -> 3

When I play your map

I feel full of note.
That can make stuffy to player

Player want to use Hardrock for comfortable play.

(you have a point here, other people already mentioned this before, but the way i mapped this diff does not supports cs3 at this moment, maybe i will re arrange it to fit cs3, have to think about it)

P.S.

Thank for your requestion.

But I'm sorry that my poor modding ( it's fine )

You might not give kudosu.

Sey wrote:

[Tur00's Harlem Fruits]

1. 00:01:819 (1,2) - HDash after the second note already? Never put a HDash at the BEGINNING of a song. I highly suggest you to fix this. You can avoid that by CTRL+G 00:01:819 (1) -
2. 00:08:677 (2) - , 00:09:534 (4) - , 00:10:391 (1) - , 00:11:248 (3) - You were using 4 times in a row exactly the same pattern in exactly the same distance. It is boring to play and also those patterns do not feel comfortable. What can we do to make this better? You could make 00:08:677 (2,3,4) - tighter than 00:10:391 (1,2,3) - , so that the distance gets bigger from step to step. Anyway, try to experiment a bit and make this section more interesting.
3. 00:12:962 (3) - If you CTRL+G this the section is more fluid and more challenging to play because you need to go back in the same direction with your Ryuuta in a quite surprising moment. Try it out. It plays better than two sliders in a row that lead in opposite directions.
4. 00:28:177 (7,1) - Too short moment between note and spinner. Look in the Platter mod for the reasons, the fruit is too indistinguishable from spinner and you need to move to the spinner beginning in a too short moment. Please fix this.
5. 00:40:034 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The whole section here is almost impossible to FC. For example this jump is TOO HARD: 00:40:319 (3,4) - and it is followed by a small jump in exactly the same direction which is just weird. This jump here especially is also too much. 00:41:248 (8,9) - Try to remap this part and make it more logical to the player. This part will lead to a lot of frustrating moments.

Fixed everything ~
Thanks! :3

1. 00:03:105 (4,5,6) - Aesthetically looks strange, and technically it's a hard dash to deal, considering it's the beginning of the song. I highly recommend to reduce the dash between (5,6).
2. 00:04:606 (3) - Unsnapped circle.
3. 00:05:249 (6) - Unsnapped circle.
4. 00:20:891 (4) - It should be snapped to get repeated in 1/8, not in 1/6. Anyway, I'd leave 1/8 for the most difficult levels, so it's better to use just 1/4 there (though 1/8 would make a huge difference in terms of notes density, since the rest of the song follows a more simple rhythm).
5. 00:22:177 (4) - ^
6. 00:37:819 (3,4,5) - A bit nazi. That part could look much better if the distance between those 3 notes is the same. Either move (3) more to the right, or center (4) between the other notes.
7. 00:39:748 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - I felt that part a bit empty. Don't be afraid to fill up the gaps (referring to red ticks) between those notes with more circles.

1. ¿Cambia el nombre de la dificultad a Rain para seguir el estándar de nombres?
2. Hay una falta de Finishes (sólo has usado uno), y de hitsounds en general, los cuales pueden ser bastante mejorados. Aquí tienes dos ejemplos muy marcados:
   
   1. 00:01:819 (1) - hasta 00:08:677 (2) - Aquí sólo usas un Clap por cada estrofa (cada línea blanca larga en la línea de tiempo). Es definitivamente muy poco.
   2. 00:15:748 (1) - hasta 00:21:319 (5) - Absolutamente ningún hitsound. Puedes incluír perfectamente un Finish en 00:18:962 (1), y seguir rellenando los huecos con otros hitsounds no tan sonoros.
3. 00:03:105 (5,6) - No entiendo por qué la distancia entre ambos sliders es menor que la que hay en los previos (1,2). De todas formas, y para aumentar la diversidad de movimientos, te recomiendo usar Ctrl-H en esas notas.
4. 00:04:605 (2,3,4) - Mira la distancia que hay entre (4) y la siguiente nota. ¿No debería haber un salto ahí también? Usa Ctrl-H en (2,3,4) para crear ese efecto.
5. 00:06:534 (1) - Usando un slider 1/1 estás omitiendo beats importantes. Intenta que al menos ese tick rojo esté representado por una nota, ya sea transformando ese slider en 3 notas, o reduciendo el slider a 1/2 y añadiendo una repetición.
6. 00:08:034 (1) - En este otro slider 1/1 me decantaría por la opción de las 3 notas, y si fuera posible, añadiendo saltos entre ellas, como hiciste previamente con 00:04:605 (2,3,4).
7. 00:11:248 (3,4) - Otro sitio donde podrías introducir ese efecto previamente mencionado. En este caso, ese slider debería desaparecer y ser sustituido por las notas pertinentes. El efecto debería empezar en 00:11:462.
8. 00:12:105 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Echa un vistazo aquí. Has organizado los primeros sliders en grupos de dos. ¿No tendría más sentido introducir un salto por cada slider? Así acompañarías a los beats del TAH! TAH! TAH! TAH!
9. 00:14:248 (6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - No estoy del todo convencido con la organización de las notas. No es un stream completo, sino que se podrían eliminar algunas notas. Prueba esto en la línea de tiempo: http://puu.sh/48M9a.jpg . Ten en cuenta incluir saltos entre las primeras notas para remarcar la letra, y un HDash al comienzo del kiai, ya que es un beat bastante potente.
   
10. 00:20:677 (2,3,4) - Debería ser un grupo de 5 notas 1/8, no de 3 notas 1/4 (refiriéndome al final del slider (2) como una nota más). Añade notas en 00:20:944 y 00:21:052.
11. 00:22:177 (9,1) - Aquí también debería haber un 5plet, y no sólo 2 notas sin más. Añade en 00:22:230 - 00:22:284 - 00:22:337.
12. 00:24:105 (1,2,3,4) - Las notas que has usado ahí no tienen ningún sentido. ¿Dónde se oye que haya un 5plet al principio, y luego se omita un beat entre (1,2)? Usa esta estructura en la línea de tiempo: http://puu.sh/48M0X.jpg
13. 00:26:177 (1,2,3,4,5) - El cambio de Normal a Soft, en cuanto a hitsounds se refiere, es demasiado abrupto. Prueba a reducir únicamente el volumen, pero conservando el tipo de sonido Normal.
14. 00:26:177 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Es bastante arriesgado seguir la letra en esta parte, ya que entran en juego repentinamente notas 1/6 y no quedan muy bien con el ritmo 1/2 relativamente monótono que lleva la música. Organiza las notas de manera que todas estén en los ticks blancos y rojos.
15. 00:27:534 (6,1) - Aquí también sigues la letra, pero al ser la dificultad más alta, sería mejor añadir más beats. ¿Qué tal esto? http://puu.sh/48MOD.jpg
16. 00:31:605 - ¿Otra nota más aquí? Es un beat flojo, pero queda mejor dejar un 3plet a sólo 2 notas 1/4 aisladas.
17. 00:31:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Aquí no parece que encajen mucho los dos 3plets. ¿Qué tal poner dos sliders 1/2, en vez de esas notas?
18. 00:34:605 (1,2,3) - Son definitivamente 1/8 y no 1/4. Añade notas, siguiendo previas sugerencias.
19. 00:35:891 (9,10,1) - ^
20. 00:37:498 (6) - Esta nota no es realmente necesaria. Se podría eliminar.
21. 00:38:355 - ¿Añade una nota?
22. 00:38:677 (3,4) - Nah... No parece que haya que usar los ticks azules ahí.
23. 00:39:533 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Evita los ticks morados (1/6) si puedes, como en la parte mencionada anteriormente, y así te quitas de quebraderos de cabeza ^^".
24. 00:42:105 (10) - New Combo. Además, y para intensificar el rugido, puedes aumentar el BPM de ese slider con una sección verde (en el panel de Timing se puede hacer). Con 1,5x BPM podría bastar.

Deif wrote:

[newtoniorock8's Platter]

1. 00:03:105 (4,5,6) - Aesthetically looks strange, and technically it's a hard dash to deal, considering it's the beginning of the song. I highly recommend to reduce the dash between (5,6).
2. 00:04:606 (3) - Unsnapped circle.
3. 00:05:249 (6) - Unsnapped circle.
4. 00:20:891 (4) - It should be snapped to get repeated in 1/8, not in 1/6. Anyway, I'd leave 1/8 for the most difficult levels, so it's better to use just 1/4 there (though 1/8 would make a huge difference in terms of notes density, since the rest of the song follows a more simple rhythm).
5. 00:22:177 (4) - ^
6. 00:37:819 (3,4,5) - A bit nazi. That part could look much better if the distance between those 3 notes is the same. Either move (3) more to the right, or center (4) between the other notes.
7. 00:39:748 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - I felt that part a bit empty. Don't be afraid to fill up the gaps (referring to red ticks) between those notes with more circles.

There are some inconsistencies in the timeline, but overall it's a good job! :D thank you for the mod! all fix..
Still not ready to go. Look for more mods, please!

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LKs wrote:

[In the Shake]

Although I playing some games like iidx, I'm not sure if my opinions still work. since this is my 1st official mod on mania. And keyboard charts for Stepmania count damn it. D:<

I'd like to mention some rhythm:

00:05:677 (5677|1,5677|2,5784|0,5891|1) - triples like this still doesn't fit, for 4 modes, rhythm has it's normal form. They're the remains of what could be an even harder chart (Maybe Expert 11/12). Putting notes to the same place is boring if you only do this, this is to add more variety.
00:06:534 (6534|3,6534|2) - missing a clap here?
00:35:248 (35248|0,35248|1) - ^
00:22:391 (22391|3) - remove 1 clap and only leave 1 with clap on
00:36:105 (36105|1,36105|0) - ^

LKs wrote:

[general]

looks good ( )

[hitsound]

use silent soft-sliderslide if possible (sure)

you might also need a custom kick sound, which can help enriching the song a lot (not sure where i could use it, lets see about that on irc later)

[Easy]

00:28:391 (1) - clap here? (the next note uses clap too, does not sounds nice repeating hitsounds like that.. but i still could change my mind later)

[Normal]

00:26:677 (3) - http://puu.sh/49zbC.jpg adjust the node to make it looks better (okay)

[Hard]

00:04:819 (7) - the whistle is unexpected I'd say. plus the next whistle is set several sec later. it doesn't sound very well. use them more frequently or remove them (removed. i might use them more frequently later, if i change my mind)
00:21:212 (4) - this one should be starting at 00:21:319 (4) - or 00:21:105 (4) - (i know what you mean, i will try to fix it)
00:34:927 (2) - ^ it sounds and plays not very good now (but still fits the lead sounds, i'm not good at remapping, maybe i will need to leave them as it is)

[The Harlem Shake!]

00:04:819 (7) - the whistle is unexpected I'd say. plus the next whistle is set several sec later. it doesn't sound very well. use them more frequently or remove them(removed. i might use them more frequently later, if i change my mind)

eldnl wrote:

[Rain]

00:05:248 (1) - En esta parte estas usando la simetria, asi que te aconsejo dejar esta nota a la misma altura que el (3) anterior, que seria en x:160. Tambien puedes hacer algo asi, para que el patron que sigue tenga un mejor flow, ya que la diferencia de espacio entre (1,2) y (2,3) es demasiado notoria y no queda muy bien.
00:08:677 (4) - La distancia entre esta y la nota anterior es bastante menor a la distancia entre (2,3). Te recomiendo dejar este slider en x:96 para que tengan la misma distancia. No te olvides de copiar este slider y hacer un flip horizontal al siguiente para que quede simetrico.
00:10:391 (1) - Al hacer el cambio anterior creo que aqui puedes aumentar la distancia, dejando (1) en x:64. Tambien te aconsejo, que para seguir el patron, agregues el mismo slider con un flip horizontal. Deberia quedar asi.
00:12:105 - Esta parte me parece algo random, para mi se siente como la parte que deberia ser mas emocionante, incluso mas que el kiai en si ... quizas unos jumps con hyperdash quedarian bien aqui.
00:14:891 - Debes borrar este stream, ya que no hay nada en la musica que te sugiera ponerlo, tl;dr overmapped.
00:34:605 - Este stream me parece extraño, ya que se ve muy bien en el editor, pero en el juego no tanto, te recomeindo hacer un mejor patron aqui.
00:36:748 (2,3,4) - *nazi* te sugiero poner las tres notas a la misma distancia.

eldnl wrote:

You had to wait till they reply my mod Drafura ;c

LKs wrote:

[general]

[newtoniorock8's Platter]

repair unsnapped notes as newtoniorock8 mentioned

why not using AR9? This one is actually harder than Tur00's Harlem Fruits .. nah.. i think Tur00 diff is harder than mine >.<

generally, some jumps were not set very properly. You may need some jumps like this:
00:03:105 (4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/49CRO.jpg jumps like this provides better playing experience(flow) and the red-fruit motion could be quite smooth
also, some 1/4 jumps that don't trigger red fruit are also good

eldnl wrote:

[Platter]

You have two unsnapped notes here 00:04:605 (3,6).
00:18:534 (3,4) - I strongly suggest to copy-paste (1,2) with an horizontal flip. Also, stack (5,1) with the previous (1,2). The pattern will be the same, but will feel much better!. It should look like this.
00:24:962 - ^ Same as above.
00:33:962 (1,2,3,4) - You could apply the same idea here. If you don't get it ask me in-game. pls check this if i apply your mod correctly..
00:39:534 (5) - I think it is better if you move this note to x:296.

That's all from my side, try to ask for some other mods!
Good luck!

Drafura wrote:

[newtoniorock8's Platter]
It would be nice to reduce enough the OD to get this : in the score listing (If possible) OD & AR would not be the same, i dont know if it is ok to change the OD >.< tell me if its ok
00:03:534 (6) - Move to X:192
00:06:748 - Add beat at X:256
00:06:962 (5) - Move at X:458 if you made the previous change
00:27:534 (3) - Replace this slider with 3 circles at : 00:27:534 - X:240, 00:27:748 - X:360, 00:27:962 - X:152
00:42:105 (3) - Replace with a spinner ? no..

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24,256,37819,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,313,38034,1,10,0:0:0:0:
192,192,38248,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,72,38677,5,10,0:0:0:0:
152,72,38891,1,2,0:0:0:0:
480,192,39319,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,192,39534,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,39748,6,0,L|200:192,1,75,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,40391,2,0,L|312:192,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,192,40819,1,4,0:0:0:0:
288,192,41034,1,4,0:0:0:0:
72,192,41462,5,2,0:0:0:0:
224,192,41677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,328,42105,2,0,L|96:232,1,300

Drafura wrote:

[Tur00's Rain]
00:14:677 (8) - Move to X:416
----- Pattern suggestion -----
00:15:212 (4) - Remove beat
00:15:319 (4) - Move to X:168
00:15:427 (5) - Remove beat
00:15:534 (5) - Move to X:432
00:15:748 (1) - Move to X:256
Hope you'll like it.
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00:21:052 (5) - (Design) Move to X:232
00:21:105 (6) - (Design) Move to X:208
00:22:391 (1) - (Design) Move to X:176 Also I'll use 1.5x slider speed for this slider.
00:23:891 (5) - Move to X:288
00:24:105 (1) - Move to X:224
00:34:605 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't looks good to me, rework it please.
00:35:891 (11,12,13,14,1) - Same kind of changes as with 00:22:391 (1) - . Or try to make a nice curve with a faster slider speed in the end.

Only minor changes nice diffs here.

Atema wrote:

Hi ! From my modding queue

General

- I'd change the white combo color in like grey because i found it a but hard to see a some points (i will think about it)


Easy

00:24:962 (5) - I would put two circles at 00:24:962 - and 00:25:391 - , sounds/feels better imo (i prefer the current, because it follows the most important things in the music, a repeat slider is easier than two circles, so i guess thats the best for an easy diff too)
00:28:391 (1) - I'd put a slider from 00:28:391 - to 00:29:248 - and a note here 00:29:677 - (i prefer not mapping the roar at all, it feels like a slow down, a chance to have a break, there is not even beats on that part, so it would be tecnically mapping a simple noise, or a talk. its also because the map has storyboard)
OR
A spinner from 00:28:391 - to 00:29:248 -

I think I should explain myself for this as you stop at 00:28:391 - for all the diffs : you don't map a beat here, just the begenning of the roaaar, so for me it would make more sense either not to put this note or else to map the roar with a slider (and not notes, or players wouldn't understand). And as you would map the roaar, I'd add a not on the hey to make sense.
That's for the fisrt solution, cause I think a spinner would really look great and might be more understandable
Sorry in advance if you disagree with that, but this note annoyed me quite a bit when I first played the map
If you change it the way I suggest you to, consider doing it for the other difficulties as well as, as I said, you mapped the same way for the other diffs.
( yeah i understand what you mean. you have a point but i'm happy with what i got here already )

00:35:248 (5) - I would not stack this one with the 00:33:962 (3) - because as the AR is very slow, you don't quite see this one and I think you should, as it's the easiest diff. This might include changing the slider. (for the same reason i prefer stacking it, since the ar is slow, not stacking it would result on ugly overlapping or "forced" placement)


Normal

00:21:962 (3,1) - I wouldn't stack these two notes, unless you add a circle at 00:22:177 - (which would make sense imo) as it's the only time in the map as you stack notes with this time difference it didn't feel natural and obvious. (this is my art based on the lyrics. when i hear the "hey" i think on "watch out" and that makes me want to make the player really need to watch out)


Hard

I'd strongly advice HP Drain -1 (its a bit lower than the other settings, i think i will keep for now, but i will change if one or two more complain)

00:05:248 - I really don't understand why there's no circle here as it's a main beat and you mapped it in all the difficulties but this one. (i wanted to focus on the lead sounds and skip vocal, yeah this ticks are mapped on the easier diffs, but its because they follow different rhythms)
00:08:677 - Same ^ (^)
00:18:962 (1) - Darn this white unseeable note ( another person complained about that before too. but i don't really agree with that. i will change the white to another color if one or two more mention it)


The Harlem Shake!

00:35:891 (1,2) - There's no way you can really see it's 2 little sliders and not 4 circles, especially for the 00:35:998 (2) - (if this notes was four circles then you would see four approach circles instead of two)


Good job anyway & good luck !

sjoy wrote:

just some suggestions ( wow thanks )
Hard:
00:04:819 (7) - CTRL+G (i prefer the current, i wanted to increase the difficulty level by degrees, so the first and secound combos are meant to be easier)
00:05:248 add a note on 256,192 (i wanted to follow the lead sounds only)
00:11:677 (8) - change it to 1/4 slider and end on 00:11:998 (same as above)

Good storyboard (thanks )
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