Lilac wrote:
Lily yawns for a bit. "I'm actually not forced to do this. I just thought it would be fun."
She stretches for a bit before sitting down. "All I said was to give a random person the restriction that was like this, that's it. So Nyquill was probably the lucky person who got it."
He did mention the words though and subsequently died. That's what has me worried.Raging Bull wrote:
All I said was give everyone a fake -paranoia- message. They aren't allowed to say they are a -paranoia- until they shoot.
fart did not mention he was a -paranoia- at all.
he affected himself aswell so it was allowed.Lilac wrote:
"To be honest, speaking like this is really tiring on me." Lily yawns. "Yeah, not really bound by this but I'll do it anyway to show that it can be done. I also wondered what happen to Game Specific Rule 3 and that traps only usually activate once."
The only restriction I made was they cannot say they are a day vig. Fart never said he was. He mentioned the words day vig. I also did not set a penalty. Unless the mod somehow read me saying as "they cannot mention they are a day vig until they shoot" as "If they mention day vig, they will die" then it seems like somebody set us up the trap and fart triggered it.Rantai wrote:
He did mention the words though and subsequently died. That's what has me worried.
Sakura wrote:
Realizing their hatred for marshmallows, especially the pink variety, Lily and RB both aimed their water guns at Tanz, the pink marshmallow. They both attacked Tanz and emptied their water guns with such great haste. After few seconds later, the scene clears up. "I'm a pink marshmallow~" , a voice says in the distant. "Damnit, I thought we had him for sure this time!" says Lily. The combined pressure of the water guns were still not enough to take him down. "I'm a pink marshmallow~" Tanz exclaims. It looks like the pink marshmallow menace lives on another day.
Yes but they cannot have a killing dream at the same time.NoHitter wrote:
Mod: Does the player who is doing the factional kill get to dream up an action as well?
1) I would really not care if nyquill died because he's no where to be seen.Raging Bull wrote:
Also little suspicious of Tsukasa for shooting Nyquill then claiming its reaction test. If I were to give a real dayvig to you, then you really just killed someone without thinking.
I think V/LA? Whatever the hell that is.Tsukasa wrote:
1) I would really not care if nyquill died because he's no where to be seen.Raging Bull wrote:
Also little suspicious of Tsukasa for shooting Nyquill then claiming its reaction test. If I were to give a real dayvig to you, then you really just killed someone without thinking.
2) I just really don't care if nyquill died because WHERE IS HE?!
V/LA = Vacation / Limited Access.Raging Bull wrote:
V/LA? Whatever the hell that is.
Wasn't his V/LA over like... a week ago? 1 day AFTER you guys NL'd :/Raging Bull wrote:
I think V/LA? Whatever the hell that is.
Lilac's posts were more fluffy than productive, even when the post restriction is taken out of the equation.Tsukasa wrote:
Caligno:
Why not lady subaru? It would have been way better
Sakura wrote:
Yes but they cannot have a killing dream at the same time.NoHitter wrote:
Mod: Does the player who is doing the factional kill get to dream up an action as well?
@Mod, can scum dream anything that relates to killing at all?Yes, as long as they didnt perform the mafiakill.
Tsukasa wrote:
GOD RB NO
Vote: LadySubaruI explained the first point, and the second point is pretty much how I always operate every game, regardless of alignment.
That post reeks.
1. That FoS list doesn't make any sense. The reasoning in that post looks alignment-neutral to CalignoBot.
2. Testing the waters.
His shooting post was the scummiest of all of the.mThis about Lilac's shooting post. Which was posted after it was already known everyone had a fake dayvig. Your second posted reason at least makes a little sense, but come on. These shots don't benefit town at all, since we don't get a reliable alignment confirmation out of them and we're just weeding down the number of players. There's also a much higher chance we're hitting town than scum, but we don't even know. Besides, if a scum member is lost they'll likely be revived, unless we make it a point to not revive players. Even that plan has flaws, as scum could revive town to try to make us waste a lynch. I don't think vigshots are useful in this setup, due to lack of reveal. (excluding special cases.)
Plus LadySubaru didn't take part in that mess of fake dayvigs.I wouldn't have even if I could have.
Tanzklaue wrote:
I'm interested why RB would give everyone fake day vig with restrictions to it that could possibly kill us. I really don't see that much townmotivation behind it.
I am a pink marshmallow~
I did not set a damn trap or anything.Raging Bull wrote:
The only restriction I made was they cannot say they are a day vig. Fart never said he was. He mentioned the words day vig. I also did not set a penalty. Unless the mod somehow read me saying as "they cannot mention they are a day vig until they shoot" as "If they mention day vig, they will die" then it seems like somebody set us up the trap and fart triggered it.
"He did actually mention 'vig' but not specifically day vig before shooting me. Also, the trap may very well have been one-use, so fartownik would have been the only victim... though to be safe I shot just in case".Raging Bull wrote:
After you said it
Self-meta is even less convincing than regular meta. If someone acts like they're testing the waters, I'm not going to give them a pass on it if I do not have enough personal experience with it.LadySuburu wrote:
@CalignoVote: LadySubaruI explained the first point, and the second point is pretty much how I always operate every game, regardless of alignment.
That post reeks.
1. That FoS list doesn't make any sense. The reasoning in that post looks alignment-neutral to CalignoBot.
2. Testing the waters.
Does this still warrent a vote?
That entire mess (which is still going on?) was heavily anti-town. That shot was partially used as a way of saying stop, since it's pretty clear words weren't enough. Now it's clear actions weren't enough, either.LadySuburu wrote:
His shooting post was the scummiest of all of the.mThis about Lilac's shooting post. Which was posted after it was already known everyone had a fake dayvig. Your second posted reason at least makes a little sense, but come on. These shots don't benefit town at all, since we don't get a reliable alignment confirmation out of them and we're just weeding down the number of players. There's also a much higher chance we're hitting town than scum, but we don't even know. Besides, if a scum member is lost they'll likely be revived, unless we make it a point to not revive players. Even that plan has flaws, as scum could revive town to try to make us waste a lynch. I don't think vigshots are useful in this setup, due to lack of reveal. (excluding special cases.)
You're taking this out of context.LadySuburu wrote:
Plus LadySubaru didn't take part in that mess of fake dayvigs.I wouldn't have even if I could have.
1. It's not productive at all, and I wouldn't find fake-shooting fun.
2. I redirected all actions from me to BRBP, as I said. I didn't recieve a fake dayvig.
Scumslip.Tanzklaue wrote:
well, then why did farto explode?
what kind of trap could've been set by scum that would be activated by fart?
does anyone who didn't shoot have the balls to test what RB just claimed? that it isn't deadly to claim day vig without shooting?
also please everyone, claim your actions. it would be most helpful if you did. no secrets anymore, we need information now. we are already down by 3, and the way this game swings, we could go down to only 8 at any moment. we also need to configure a plan on how to catch scum. let's assume the worst case scenario of alll three scum still living (assuming that we fight 3 scum). then we are basically at semi-MyLo just now. it may be smart to at least protect some of us with BP or doctors. or better yet, jailkeeping a bunch. we could reduce the number of kills to 0 (from 3) if we get the right countermeasures.
do I need to add that please no townie shoots from this point on except for getting rid of the joke day vig now? we can't risk any more towndeaths at this point.
I am done for today, I hope that i will see a bunch of useful stuff tomorrow.
I am a pink marshmallow~
it's funny how you mention the previous paragraph, but fail to make the connection that I talked about towndeaths under the assumption of the worst case. for all that I know, there might be scum under the dead. but I think that the worst case is not only really shitty, but also the most likely.CalignoBot wrote:
Scumslip.Tanzklaue wrote:
well, then why did farto explode?
what kind of trap could've been set by scum that would be activated by fart?
does anyone who didn't shoot have the balls to test what RB just claimed? that it isn't deadly to claim day vig without shooting?
also please everyone, claim your actions. it would be most helpful if you did. no secrets anymore, we need information now. we are already down by 3, and the way this game swings, we could go down to only 8 at any moment. we also need to configure a plan on how to catch scum. let's assume the worst case scenario of alll three scum still living (assuming that we fight 3 scum). then we are basically at semi-MyLo just now. it may be smart to at least protect some of us with BP or doctors. or better yet, jailkeeping a bunch. we could reduce the number of kills to 0 (from 3) if we get the right countermeasures.
do I need to add that please no townie shoots from this point on except for getting rid of the joke day vig now? we can't risk any more towndeaths at this point.
I am done for today, I hope that i will see a bunch of useful stuff tomorrow.
I am a pink marshmallow~
Unvote: LadySubaru
Vote: Tanzklaue
The wording is pretty much irrelevant. What you did was go on about the assumption that town died, then essentially confirmed it.Tanzklaue wrote:
it's funny how you mention the previous paragraph, but fail to make the connection that I talked about towndeaths under the assumption of the worst case. for all that I know, there might be scum under the dead. but I think that the worst case is not only really shitty, but also the most likely.
it also takes a paranoid person to read a scumslip out of that. if it was something like "we don't need anymore towndeaths at this point", that would be a slip. as it stands, I think it's a pretty weak accusation, and by far not strong enough to vote for me instead of some other candidates.
you also still need to bring up a good reason why you shot your dayvig without townconsensus. just to stop discussions? really?
I am a pink marshmallow~
okay, why would I give myself silly restrictions then?CalignoBot wrote:
...no.
I'm trying to say that you would've given yourself one.
CalignoBot wrote:
From what I can tell, you're more likely to be given a strong role if you handicap yourself in some way in order to be able to use it.
I explained why I shot several times already.Tanzklaue wrote:
while not necessarily being helpful to town, the day vig discussion was at least a discussion. it was better than what normally happens at day 1, which is RVS and then a whole lot of nothing at all.
you shot lilac without any townconsensus, which no day vig should ever do, especially if the person doesn't flip from your kill. killing lilac to stop the day vig discussion was, from my point of view, something really scummy, as it both stopped discussion and killed potential town. let's be honest, lilac was basically null leaning minimal scum for most of us I guess.
Yes, I am aware this is self-meta.Tanzklaue wrote:
adding to that, your play seems rather odd in this one. except this very last post, your posts overall where more like little tid bits, and less the normal analytical playstyle that I've seen from you. your whole behaviour is odd to me. I can't exactly say why by pointing things out of your posts, I'm no good at it, but just the whole thing seems like you are not 100% confident in what you say. if you really thought or knew that I was scum, you would've probably nailed me down lot more and had more valid points than just a nullslip and the accusation of me lying about my nightactions.also you didn't die N1
No, not really. I see his dream as a null tell.Tanzklaue wrote:
question: do you believe that RB is scum?
That can easily be a gambit. I've already went into why I don't fully believe the claim; your actions regarding getting shot to test your claim were entirely absent until immediately after the dayvigs were all shown to be fake.Tanzklaue wrote:
well, as long as I am still alive, might aswell tell you what I meant with the RB thing:
if I was lying about BP, then i would have to be completely confident in nobody being able to kill me, which would mean that I and RB had to be scum partners. on the other hand, you were a real day vig (which means that there was the possiility of real dayvigs existing), but you decided to shoot potential town instead of testing my claim. your whole case could've been tested b you, but you decided to fire at lilac. which makes no sense.
I advise all people to take care of caligno, in one way or another. aybe god has mercy on me and let's my typo slip.
I am a pink marshmallow~
Remilia looked surprised at thisNyquill wrote:
Nyquill furrows her brow.
"tanz and caligno are likely both town."
vote: pieguy
"I have good reason to believe someone is lying about their dream, and I really think pieguy's dream is the least likely"
Nyquill seemed genuinely annoyed at this.pieguy1372 wrote:
Remilia looked surprised at thisNyquill wrote:
Nyquill furrows her brow.
"tanz and caligno are likely both town."
vote: pieguy
"I have good reason to believe someone is lying about their dream, and I really think pieguy's dream is the least likely"
"ask anyone here, you must not know him", she said, with a playful look on her face