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Tsukasa

fartownik wrote:

Tsukasa wrote:

I agree about the "24 hours before".

That was actually my plan from the start. Though I really need to know who gave me stuff.
So it's obvious you're both Day Vigilante with pieguy.

If this is true then we can simply do 3 days in 1. Everytime we're about to lynch, you or pieguy kill the person with the most amount of votes. We don't let night to happen - we don't let nightkill to happen, unless scum is also Day Vigilante, or one of you is.

Also you can't agree with me as you're prohibited to say what your role is - don't do it then. I know I'm right.
I'm guessing you're the one who gave me Vig :p
Tsukasa
WAIT SHIT

Shoot: Nyquill
LadySuburu

CalignoBot wrote:

Vote: LadySubaru

That post reeks.

1. That FoS list doesn't make any sense. The reasoning in that post looks alignment-neutral to CalignoBot.
2. Testing the waters.
The FoS list is the people who know me, have played with me before, and would have reason to target me with the NK.

Also, in what way does "That post reeks" = "Reasoning looks alignment-neutral"? Mind clarifying a bit there?
LadySuburu

Tsukasa wrote:

WAIT SHIT

Shoot: Nyquill
Oh, while I was posting.

What be the reason for shooting?
Raging Bull

Tsukasa wrote:

WAIT SHIT

Shoot: Nyquill
What the fuck? Why would you shoot someone without reasoning? Just like another BRBP again.
Amianki

LadySuburu wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Vote: LadySubaru

That post reeks.

1. That FoS list doesn't make any sense. The reasoning in that post looks alignment-neutral to CalignoBot.
2. Testing the waters.
The FoS list is the people who know me, have played with me before, and would have reason to target me with the NK.

Also, in what way does "That post reeks" = "Reasoning looks alignment-neutral"? Mind clarifying a bit there?
Both parts could have been clarified a lot better.

CalignoBot's point on that post reeking is separate from the the second statement. The latter is only referring to LadySubaru's points on each FoSed player as CalignoBot got the impression those were the cases.
Amianki
Tsukasa confirmed for either going full retard or rambo headshots.
NoHitter
You guys misunderstand. He broke the condition which was not to mention what the role was specifically...
So yeah, let's vote on who I will use my role on before I make a mistake like that...
LadySuburu

NoHitter wrote:

You guys misunderstand. He broke the condition which was not to mention what the role was specifically...
So yeah, let's vote on who I will use my role on before I make a mistake like that...
Ah, I see now.

Still need confirmation on if Tanz's BP runs out at the end of the day. If it does, I'd say test him to make sure he's true.

Any shots fired will not reveal the role of the player if it kills, so unless someone reveals them later it doesn't matter.

Also, unrevealed players can be revived. Even if we hit mafia, there's a large chance they'll revive that player.

I'm not sure the usefulness of shots unless we have a cop result, so we likely shouldn't go all guns blazing here.
Raging Bull
I think all roles will revert at the end of day
pieguyn
Remilia seemed surprised at Tsukasa.
"probably it was something like he can't mention his role till he shoots, so he shot someone to avoid being modkilled? I don't know" > <
she also seemed surprised LS would accuse her, and defended herself accordingly
"hey, how dare you accuse me" *slaps LS*
"I can understand your reasoning, it seems suspicious if you just happen to be the one who's shot. however, I initially thought someone shot him just as payback for what he did in Touhou mafia where he just shot someone D1. given that reason, it could possibly be a lot more people.. also, keep in mind people lose their role on the next day, so they have to use it or dream it again"
"I too think NH hasn't been posting as much, but that's one of the only things I can see here. Tanz seems normal for me, so does Lilac. Caligno also seems normal... everything seems normal, AAA ~ i have no idea what to think.. imo it's weird fartownik suddenly stopped posting though. I can't recall him doing that before.."


Remilia seemed slightly annoyed after saying all this
"uu, I'm getting bored talking so much. Let's do something ~ "
vote: NoHItter
LadySuburu

Raging Bull wrote:

I think all roles will revert at the end of day
That's the impression I get from rule 5, yes.

@pieguy: fart stopped posting because he blew up. Dead. Did you miss that somehow?
pieguyn
Remilia slapped herself on the head
"aaa how did I forget that" > < "I'm such a baka sometimes, plus I'm so tired now cause there's too much sunlight..."
"well, never mind what I said about him then. I really need to go inside for a while."
NoHitter
A meta argument for a vote in a game where everyone is a PR who can do anything? -_-
That's a pretty weak vote IMO.
Lilac
"I'm surprised that you still have to motivation to play mafia after mostly dying D1 or N1, NoHitter." Lily said as she starts slumping against a wall. "Especially saying that you're 'bored' and wanting to do 'something', pieguy. The basis of the vote is weak and if your only reason to vote is not posting as much, you need a lot more thinking."

Lily starts to play with the two hats that she has. "Some twisted game, huh? Especially when 'someone' forgot farto blowing up spontaneously."
Topic Starter
Sakura
Tsukasa takes his gun and aims at Nyquill yelling "I'm a vig DIE!" and presses the trigger... however only water comes out of the gun?!

Vote Count 2.05

LadySuburu(1) - CalignoBot
NoHitter (1) - pieguy1372

Not Voting (8) - Raging Bull, NoHitter, Rantai, Tsukasa, LadySuburu, Nyquill, Tanzklaue, Lilac

With 10 Alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Raging Bull
So I can't analyize shit, but is Tsukasa really this random? Town read someone and then shoot someone else and I don't really know any explanation.
Tanzklaue
guys, guys, guys.

he didn't blow up. so the keyword is the other part of the role name.

also seems like the role itself is bogus.
or tsukasa lied about having that role.

if you want to test my BP, go for it, though it might be irrelevant as there might be nobody who can actually do something with the role.

I'm a pink marshmallow~
NoHitter
I think the fact that the mod stated that he had a gun and tried to shoot it makes it seem that he was given a role.
Either the role is bogus as Tanz said, or maybe Nyquill has a BP or something?
Tsukasa
Nope.

I ALMOST did shit that I wasn't supposed to do.

And also, I pretty much know what lucid dreamers is.

Even if you were given a gun, doesn't mean you have bullets.
Tsukasa
2nd.

Reaction testing failed because nyquill never posted.

But anyways.

RB is town
I knew should have shot LadySuburu. Dammit
Amianki
Not too late to get this wagon rolling.
Raging Bull
Well whatever now.

Shoot:Tanz

I gave everyone a fake dayvig message.
Tsukasa
Inb4 everyone is a vig.

>.>
pieguyn
Remi started waving her hands all over the place, annoyed
"a fake dayvig message? now that's just mean" > <
"Besides, I don't see the reason that makes RB town. RB could be mafia just fucking with everyone as far as I can see, unless Tsukasa knows something special."
Raging Bull
Not turning this into another Mystery mafia.


Raging Bull wrote:

I just had fun with my dream choice really. Although I did not set a trap for anyone at all.
Rantai
Wait wtf did I miss?

If you made a fake role for everyone does that mean the condition with the role is also fake?

You said you didn't set any traps on it but fart would tell me otherwise (unless something else is going on?)
Raging Bull
All I said was give everyone a fake day vig message. They aren't allowed to say they are a day vig until they shoot.

fart did not mention he was a day vig at all.
Raging Bull
Oh and just in case.


If someone were to really dream that they want to be a real day vig, they WILL be a real day vig.

My dream said everyone will receive a fake dayvig PM and they cant kill, unless someone really wanted to be a real day vig.
Amianki
K. Let's stop talking about the dayvig now and start nabbing scum.
Raging Bull

Lilac wrote:

Lily yawns for a bit. "I'm actually not forced to do this. I just thought it would be fun."

She stretches for a bit before sitting down. "All I said was to give a random person the restriction that was like this, that's it. So Nyquill was probably the lucky person who got it."

So you don't have to post as a story?



Also little suspicious of Tsukasa for shooting Nyquill then claiming its reaction test. If I were to give a real dayvig to you, then you really just killed someone without thinking.
pieguyn
Remilia started wondering again about the events earlier
"hm, perhaps mafia basically just put something like 'the first person to say their role dies'. Something like that wouldn't surprise me and seems reasonable for this game."

"Also, Tsukasa probably just shot him to avoid being modkilled cause during his reaction test he accidentally mentioned he was a dayvig and forgot he couldn't"

"anyway.."

unvote, vote: Rantai
"I can't see anything, maybe cause there's too much sunlight" > <
"but everyone seems normal for me except Rantai cause he's not posting as much as I remember him doing"
she said, thinking about it a bit
Raging Bull
pieguyn
Remi slapped herself on the head again
"crap why do I keep missing shit"
"speaking for pieguy, I'm sure he's completely not used to being me so he can't think straight. Seems he's just a baka ~ or a bad player."
"Probably I won't be here tomorrow so that he can think better." orz
"then.."

unvote: vote NH "same idea as before! let's go ~"
Rantai

Raging Bull wrote:

All I said was give everyone a fake -paranoia- message. They aren't allowed to say they are a -paranoia- until they shoot.

fart did not mention he was a -paranoia- at all.
He did mention the words though and subsequently died. That's what has me worried.
Lilac
"To be honest, speaking like this is really tiring on me." Lily yawns. "Yeah, not really bound by this but I'll do it anyway to show that it can be done. I also wondered what happen to Game Specific Rule 3 and that traps only usually activate once."
Tanzklaue

Lilac wrote:

"To be honest, speaking like this is really tiring on me." Lily yawns. "Yeah, not really bound by this but I'll do it anyway to show that it can be done. I also wondered what happen to Game Specific Rule 3 and that traps only usually activate once."
he affected himself aswell so it was allowed.

I'm a pink marshmallow~
Lilac
Lily starts shooting Tanz with her newly acquired water pistol, trying to soak him. "Pew pew~ It didn't even feel like a real gun anyway, the weighting of the gun is so unbalanced and unnaturally light."

Lily twirls the gun around but stops short after a few spins. "See what I mean? Real guns would allow you to keep going with the weight building momentum and circular motion but the mass just isn't right. Maybe a bigger initial acceleration in order to spin it would have to be the compensation but I guess it would be too tiring to hold. Or a smaller gun."

Lily takes out her bag of white and pink marshmallows and starts eating them. "Auu, guns are really bad things anyway." she says as she throws the fake gun away. "Does anyone want to admit giving Tanz that restriction or do I just have to eat him after I'm done with these? Nomnom... Mew."
Raging Bull
Inb4 tanz loses BP

Rantai just shoot me so you can say it.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.06

LadySuburu(1) - CalignoBot
NoHitter (1) - pieguy1372

Not Voting (8) - Raging Bull, NoHitter, Rantai, Tsukasa, LadySuburu, Nyquill, Tanzklaue, Lilac

With 10 Alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Tanzklaue
I won't lose it, it's not 1-shot or something like that.

so i should be able to take all the "bullets" safely.
but why would you worry about my BP if noone has real bullets?

Shoot: RB
it shouldn't do anything and I really want to get rid of the restriction.

I'm a pink marshmallow~
Raging Bull
Anyways I'm on my computer now


Rantai wrote:

He did mention the words though and subsequently died. That's what has me worried.
The only restriction I made was they cannot say they are a day vig. Fart never said he was. He mentioned the words day vig. I also did not set a penalty. Unless the mod somehow read me saying as "they cannot mention they are a day vig until they shoot" as "If they mention day vig, they will die" then it seems like somebody set us up the trap and fart triggered it.
Raging Bull

Sakura wrote:

Realizing their hatred for marshmallows, especially the pink variety, Lily and RB both aimed their water guns at Tanz, the pink marshmallow. They both attacked Tanz and emptied their water guns with such great haste. After few seconds later, the scene clears up. "I'm a pink marshmallow~" , a voice says in the distant. "Damnit, I thought we had him for sure this time!" says Lily. The combined pressure of the water guns were still not enough to take him down. "I'm a pink marshmallow~" Tanz exclaims. It looks like the pink marshmallow menace lives on another day.

Fix'd that for you dear
Tanzklaue
Episode V: The Pink Marshmallow strikes back

I'm a pink marshmallow~
Rantai
Well ok.

Shoot: RB
NoHitter
Shoot NoHitter
If I die from this RB...

Anyway, let's continue off from the action list LS provided, but first:
Mod: Does the player who is doing the factional kill get to dream up an action as well?
Amianki
This is ridiculous.

Shoot Lilac with bullets of fried tofu and fried dumplings.
Topic Starter
Sakura

NoHitter wrote:

Mod: Does the player who is doing the factional kill get to dream up an action as well?
Yes but they cannot have a killing dream at the same time.

It seems Lilac ate too much fried food that he choked to death.

Lilac has died from choking to death by fried food.

Votes are reset.
Vote Count 2.08

Not Voting (9) - Raging Bull, NoHitter, Rantai, Tsukasa, LadySuburu, Nyquill, Tanzklaue, CalignoBot, pieguy1372

With 9 Alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Tanzklaue
ok what

I'm a pink marshmallow~
Amianki
As Tanzklaue most likely guessed, CalignoBot had a genuine dayvig.

He had a feeling that we might get too bogged down in speculation about night actions and wouldn't get a whole lot done, so he took measures to ensure that he could still maintain influence in this situation.

Buuuuuuuut... this latest string of fake dayvigs was too much. There was so much anti-town sentiment in it that he couldn't justify allowing ALL of them to live.
Tanzklaue
and what aexactly was your reasoning to shoot lilac?

I'm a pink marshmallow~
Amianki
His shooting post was the scummiest of all of the.m
Tanzklaue
is that really the only reason you have for shooting?

I'm a pink marshmallow~
Tsukasa

Raging Bull wrote:

Also little suspicious of Tsukasa for shooting Nyquill then claiming its reaction test. If I were to give a real dayvig to you, then you really just killed someone without thinking.
1) I would really not care if nyquill died because he's no where to be seen.
2) I just really don't care if nyquill died because WHERE IS HE?!
Tsukasa
Caligno:

Why not lady subaru? It would have been way better
Raging Bull

Tsukasa wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Also little suspicious of Tsukasa for shooting Nyquill then claiming its reaction test. If I were to give a real dayvig to you, then you really just killed someone without thinking.
1) I would really not care if nyquill died because he's no where to be seen.
2) I just really don't care if nyquill died because WHERE IS HE?!
I think V/LA? Whatever the hell that is.
Topic Starter
Sakura

Raging Bull wrote:

V/LA? Whatever the hell that is.
V/LA = Vacation / Limited Access.
Tsukasa

Raging Bull wrote:

I think V/LA? Whatever the hell that is.
Wasn't his V/LA over like... a week ago? 1 day AFTER you guys NL'd :/
Raging Bull
I don't know, but we can't really do anything about Nyquill yet. He's really just gone.

What was your dream?
Amianki

Tsukasa wrote:

Caligno:

Why not lady subaru? It would have been way better
Lilac's posts were more fluffy than productive, even when the post restriction is taken out of the equation.

Plus LadySubaru didn't take part in that mess of fake dayvigs.
Raging Bull
Lilac didn't even have a post restriction.
Raging Bull

Sakura wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

Mod: Does the player who is doing the factional kill get to dream up an action as well?
Yes but they cannot have a killing dream at the same time.

Actually

@Mod, can scum dream anything that relates to killing at all?
Topic Starter
Sakura
@Mod, can scum dream anything that relates to killing at all?
Yes, as long as they didnt perform the mafiakill.
Raging Bull
Everyone dream they are a day vig tomorrow and do texas justice mafia style?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... tice_Mafia
Tsukasa
GOD RB NO
Nyquill
Nyquill pops in briefly.

"Posting to say I'm away until tomorrow so please don't do anything crazy until then."

*poof*
Raging Bull

Tsukasa wrote:

GOD RB NO
:(
LadySuburu
@Caligno

Vote: LadySubaru

That post reeks.

1. That FoS list doesn't make any sense. The reasoning in that post looks alignment-neutral to CalignoBot.
2. Testing the waters.
I explained the first point, and the second point is pretty much how I always operate every game, regardless of alignment.

Does this still warrent a vote?


His shooting post was the scummiest of all of the.m
This about Lilac's shooting post. Which was posted after it was already known everyone had a fake dayvig. Your second posted reason at least makes a little sense, but come on. These shots don't benefit town at all, since we don't get a reliable alignment confirmation out of them and we're just weeding down the number of players. There's also a much higher chance we're hitting town than scum, but we don't even know. Besides, if a scum member is lost they'll likely be revived, unless we make it a point to not revive players. Even that plan has flaws, as scum could revive town to try to make us waste a lynch. I don't think vigshots are useful in this setup, due to lack of reveal. (excluding special cases.)


Plus LadySubaru didn't take part in that mess of fake dayvigs.
I wouldn't have even if I could have.

1. It's not productive at all, and I wouldn't find fake-shooting fun.
2. I redirected all actions from me to BRBP, as I said. I didn't recieve a fake dayvig.




@Tsukasa: Mind telling me why you're also on the "Let's get rid of LS" wagon?
NoHitter
Mod: Lilac isn't crossed out in the opening post.

Anyway, I honestly have no idea what's the best direction we should go today. Did no one really opt for an investigative action?

I can think of three ways:
A) NL today and hope that the night actions end in our favor.
B) We lynch based on PoE and our suspicions based on the claimed actions - particularly the "trap". I don't believe that it's in town's best interest to lay a trap like that. If I'm mistaken then whoever did it, please come out.
C) We lynch based on our suspicions independent of the "trap".
Tanzklaue
I don't think NL helps us. in all the games I played we almost always NL'd day 1, and it was always terribad.

I'm interested why RB would give everyone fake day vig with restrictions to it that could possibly kill us. I really don't see that much townmotivation behind it.

I am a pink marshmallow~
Raging Bull

Tanzklaue wrote:

I'm interested why RB would give everyone fake day vig with restrictions to it that could possibly kill us. I really don't see that much townmotivation behind it.

I am a pink marshmallow~


Raging Bull wrote:

The only restriction I made was they cannot say they are a day vig. Fart never said he was. He mentioned the words day vig. I also did not set a penalty. Unless the mod somehow read me saying as "they cannot mention they are a day vig until they shoot" as "If they mention day vig, they will die" then it seems like somebody set us up the trap and fart triggered it.
I did not set a damn trap or anything.
Raging Bull
And if you think I'm scum, why the hell would I just reveal what I did when only one person shot? I would have most likely let other people have fun arguing who was the real dayvig or not.
Tanzklaue
do you imply that you knew of the existence of a real dayvig?

also, this isn't about the trap, but about the regulation that you aren't able to speak about you having it unless you used it (btw. everyone shoot me so you can safely get rid of that shit). we didn't know about the trap that was set, but we knew of the restriction. do you deny to have set the restriction?

I am a pink marshmallow~
Raging Bull
I don't know any existence of a real dayvig. I just said in my dream except for a real day vig so there won't be conflict if mod wants player x to be a real dayvig or fake.

No I do not deny about restriction. I did set it to where they cannot speak of it unless they shoot.
Tanzklaue
point still stands, why would you as a town player set a deadly restriction on the day vig?

I am a pink marshmallow~
Raging Bull
it's not deadly. I never set a penalty if they revealed it. I think the mod just decided to kill because of misinterpretation. If you think about it, why did Tsukasa not die? He would have died too because he revealed he was a vig before he shot. Nothing in my dream mentioned a trap. So he would have died too, but he didn't. So the trap was set by someone else.
Tanzklaue
but how can a trap be set without knowledge of the trigger if you know what I mean?

I am a pink marshmallow~
Raging Bull
I don't know what you mean. You mean how would I know if I set a trap because of my restriction? I don't know. All I did was have fun with my dream. I didn't plan on dreaming stuff that kills people. Hell my second option for my dream was for everyone to post with images.
Tanzklaue
well, then why did farto explode?

what kind of trap could've been set by scum that would be activated by fart?

does anyone who didn't shoot have the balls to test what RB just claimed? that it isn't deadly to claim day vig without shooting?

also please everyone, claim your actions. it would be most helpful if you did. no secrets anymore, we need information now. we are already down by 3, and the way this game swings, we could go down to only 8 at any moment. we also need to configure a plan on how to catch scum. let's assume the worst case scenario of alll three scum still living (assuming that we fight 3 scum). then we are basically at semi-MyLo just now. it may be smart to at least protect some of us with BP or doctors. or better yet, jailkeeping a bunch. we could reduce the number of kills to 0 (from 3) if we get the right countermeasures.

do I need to add that please no townie shoots from this point on except for getting rid of the joke day vig now? we can't risk any more towndeaths at this point.

I am done for today, I hope that i will see a bunch of useful stuff tomorrow.

I am a pink marshmallow~
Tsukasa
RB vs. Tanz = Town Vs. Town
Raging Bull
Tsukasa mentioned dayvig and he didnt die
Tsukasa
Because I shot
Raging Bull
After you said it
LadySuburu
Vote: CalignoBot

A response would be nice.

Also, we're approaching deadline everyone.
Nyquill
Nyquill rejoins the town after reading through the past few pages.

Nyquill was about to say something, but just before he did, he realized something else.

"right.. shoot: tanz"

Raging Bull wrote:

After you said it
"He did actually mention 'vig' but not specifically day vig before shooting me. Also, the trap may very well have been one-use, so fartownik would have been the only victim... though to be safe I shot just in case".

Nyquill goes back to the ISOs and sighs heavily.

"he still hasn't claimed yet...."
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.08

Not Voting (9) - Raging Bull, NoHitter, Rantai, Tsukasa, LadySuburu, Nyquill, Tanzklaue, CalignoBot, pieguy1372

With 9 Alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Moderator's Notes: Slightly less than 24 hours remaing until deadline.
Rantai
This has been bugging me for a bit, but pieguy's contradiction (plus light flip-flopping and consistent "lapse in reading") are compounding and ringing a couple of bells.

Because I don't quite have the time - I am referring to his vote on NH (then me and back) as he states that NH seems a bit off due to a lack of posting but reverses that opinion stating everyone seems normal a couple of posts later. Then he goes back to NH with the same reason, reversing again. and he hasn't mentioned gut feelings once

@Tanz - RB makes a good point in the fact that if he was scum and intentionally set a trap, why would he reveal himself as such? Seems like a really dumb move to me. (and before we meta back to dota where he did a similar thing, there were 2 scum factions). As such I'm satisfied with his side of the story for now.

You can find what I did last night if you dig back.
pieguyn
Remilia seemed annoyed
"24 hours before lynch and we haven't thought of anything... oh well, it's not like it mattered cause my role was fake anyway"
Shoot: LadySuburu
"i wanted to give town an extra lynch, but that didn't work.." she said, feeling sad
"srsly, I find it weird I really have no power here. under normal circumstances, I can kill people and even alter fate ~ "
"I blame the sunlight, like I did for just about everything already"
Amianki

LadySuburu wrote:

@Caligno

Vote: LadySubaru

That post reeks.

1. That FoS list doesn't make any sense. The reasoning in that post looks alignment-neutral to CalignoBot.
2. Testing the waters.
I explained the first point, and the second point is pretty much how I always operate every game, regardless of alignment.

Does this still warrent a vote?
Self-meta is even less convincing than regular meta. If someone acts like they're testing the waters, I'm not going to give them a pass on it if I do not have enough personal experience with it.

As for the first point, I responded to your response and don't remember seeing a continuation. If I somehow missed it, point me towards it.

LadySuburu wrote:

His shooting post was the scummiest of all of the.m
This about Lilac's shooting post. Which was posted after it was already known everyone had a fake dayvig. Your second posted reason at least makes a little sense, but come on. These shots don't benefit town at all, since we don't get a reliable alignment confirmation out of them and we're just weeding down the number of players. There's also a much higher chance we're hitting town than scum, but we don't even know. Besides, if a scum member is lost they'll likely be revived, unless we make it a point to not revive players. Even that plan has flaws, as scum could revive town to try to make us waste a lynch. I don't think vigshots are useful in this setup, due to lack of reveal. (excluding special cases.)
That entire mess (which is still going on?) was heavily anti-town. That shot was partially used as a way of saying stop, since it's pretty clear words weren't enough. Now it's clear actions weren't enough, either.

LadySuburu wrote:

Plus LadySubaru didn't take part in that mess of fake dayvigs.
I wouldn't have even if I could have.

1. It's not productive at all, and I wouldn't find fake-shooting fun.
2. I redirected all actions from me to BRBP, as I said. I didn't recieve a fake dayvig.
You're taking this out of context.
Amianki

Tanzklaue wrote:

well, then why did farto explode?

what kind of trap could've been set by scum that would be activated by fart?

does anyone who didn't shoot have the balls to test what RB just claimed? that it isn't deadly to claim day vig without shooting?

also please everyone, claim your actions. it would be most helpful if you did. no secrets anymore, we need information now. we are already down by 3, and the way this game swings, we could go down to only 8 at any moment. we also need to configure a plan on how to catch scum. let's assume the worst case scenario of alll three scum still living (assuming that we fight 3 scum). then we are basically at semi-MyLo just now. it may be smart to at least protect some of us with BP or doctors. or better yet, jailkeeping a bunch. we could reduce the number of kills to 0 (from 3) if we get the right countermeasures.

do I need to add that please no townie shoots from this point on except for getting rid of the joke day vig now? we can't risk any more towndeaths at this point.

I am done for today, I hope that i will see a bunch of useful stuff tomorrow.

I am a pink marshmallow~
Scumslip.

Unvote: LadySubaru
Vote: Tanzklaue
pieguyn
Remilia started laughing at what Tanz said
"ahahahaha ~"
"If that's real, ggs. but I think if you're cautious enough, it's possible for town to viably say that, especially if you're not familiar with no reveal (like me..)"
Amianki
Not really. That would be overly paranoid town, and that doesn't mesh well with the paragraph before that.
Raging Bull
No more third person ?
Amianki
I got bored of it.
NoHitter
Caligno: Why fake a post restriction? I do not see any town points for doing so (I've tried doing that as town before and when I did so I realized it was pretty worthless to do so.

Caligno brings an interesting "slip" though with Tanz saying "towndeath" when we don't know if they're town.

Next, I do not think RB set the trap like that. If that is so, then I wonder what exactly did farto do to trigger the death, but I don't think we have the time to discuss it anyway with the deadline closing.

Vote: Tanz
Amianki
I never once faked a post restriction. On the contrary, I specifically stated it wasn't one the first time it was brought up.
Tanzklaue

CalignoBot wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

well, then why did farto explode?

what kind of trap could've been set by scum that would be activated by fart?

does anyone who didn't shoot have the balls to test what RB just claimed? that it isn't deadly to claim day vig without shooting?

also please everyone, claim your actions. it would be most helpful if you did. no secrets anymore, we need information now. we are already down by 3, and the way this game swings, we could go down to only 8 at any moment. we also need to configure a plan on how to catch scum. let's assume the worst case scenario of alll three scum still living (assuming that we fight 3 scum). then we are basically at semi-MyLo just now. it may be smart to at least protect some of us with BP or doctors. or better yet, jailkeeping a bunch. we could reduce the number of kills to 0 (from 3) if we get the right countermeasures.

do I need to add that please no townie shoots from this point on except for getting rid of the joke day vig now? we can't risk any more towndeaths at this point.

I am done for today, I hope that i will see a bunch of useful stuff tomorrow.

I am a pink marshmallow~
Scumslip.

Unvote: LadySubaru
Vote: Tanzklaue
it's funny how you mention the previous paragraph, but fail to make the connection that I talked about towndeaths under the assumption of the worst case. for all that I know, there might be scum under the dead. but I think that the worst case is not only really shitty, but also the most likely.
it also takes a paranoid person to read a scumslip out of that. if it was something like "we don't need anymore towndeaths at this point", that would be a slip. as it stands, I think it's a pretty weak accusation, and by far not strong enough to vote for me instead of some other candidates.

you also still need to bring up a good reason why you shot your dayvig without townconsensus. just to stop discussions? really?

I am a pink marshmallow~
Amianki

Tanzklaue wrote:

it's funny how you mention the previous paragraph, but fail to make the connection that I talked about towndeaths under the assumption of the worst case. for all that I know, there might be scum under the dead. but I think that the worst case is not only really shitty, but also the most likely.
it also takes a paranoid person to read a scumslip out of that. if it was something like "we don't need anymore towndeaths at this point", that would be a slip. as it stands, I think it's a pretty weak accusation, and by far not strong enough to vote for me instead of some other candidates.

you also still need to bring up a good reason why you shot your dayvig without townconsensus. just to stop discussions? really?

I am a pink marshmallow~
The wording is pretty much irrelevant. What you did was go on about the assumption that town died, then essentially confirmed it.

Saying I shot just to stop discussion is a misrep. I already went into why I shot, but I wanted to steer town towards talking about productive things instead of the wild dead end that is the fake dayvig business.

Plus, Tsukasa is living proof that everyone shooting their dayvig is basically pointless.
Tanzklaue
everyone shooting their day vig was a precaution, because what if tsukasa didn't die for other reasons?

also, where did I confirm that town died? I didn't do that. you are laying words in my mouth. as I said, the wording isn't irrelevant, as the way I worded it originally related to what I said previously. which basically means that your accusaton of me confirming anything is wrong.
you also didn't try to stir up any discussion yourself after you shot, so why are you surprised to see people still talking about the day vig thing?
deadline is approaching, so I will throw out my vote for now.

Vote: NH
while caligno has at least foundations in his accusations (even if they are really weak and straw graspy), you just hopped on the bandwagon.

I am a pink marshmallow~
NoHitter
Since when is BW-ing when agreeing on a reason necessarily scummy?

And I think that you can say that we're all grasping for straws here since we have practically no leads. Unless someone makes a better case against someone or I find someone acting more suspicious, I'm sticking with my vote.

(and I swear if I die Day 1/Night 1 again... *sigh*)
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