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Soulclenz
I am truly confused as to why Lifestealer is making it through the ban phases as easily as he has been, he is so clearly dominant right now. Oh well, him being picked is helping my predictions at least.
dNextGen
i fucking lold whenever a kid from LoL tries to shit on the game and always got their msg deleted :D

BTS mods <3
bmin11
Just got reminded why I hate Naga so much
Soulclenz
Dat Finol pause.
Pizzicato


HAHAHAHAHAHA
Wishy
I still don't get why Naix is not perma-banned, a long time ago when it was modified to what he is now (long range slow at lvl 1 tho) we were already talking about how it was overpowered as fuck, I would perma-ban it against teams I know they play strats based on that hero.
dNextGen

Pizzicato wrote:



HAHAHAHAHAHA
wow fuck that dev for fuck sake

naix is not op dude,clearly having free lifesteal and BKB + attack speed steroid is not op

at least he is not retarded as he was in Dota 1 though,where Rage is his ultimate and the only one Active skill he has
Soulclenz
Truthfully, the pause did nothing to change the outcome of the fight even though I'm sure many people are thinking otherwise.

As for Naix. I don't think he should be perma banned, i just don't understand how the teams are letting him get through the ban phases when it's obvious they want to play him.
Magicphoenix
NoHitter

That is scary o_o
Hiryuu_old
venomancer looks so cute, give it a hug
xsrsbsns
kawaEE
Pizzicato
dont mind if i do

thanks :D
dNextGen

Soulclenz wrote:

Truthfully, the pause did nothing to change the outcome of the fight even though I'm sure many people are thinking otherwise.

As for Naix. I don't think he should be perma banned, i just don't understand how the teams are letting him get through the ban phases.
i think that Finol dude just want some attention,maybe teams will appreciate Naix more when they got stomped by Era

Magicphoenix wrote:

pick ur avatars guys
http://artofhkm.deviantart.com/gallery/?q=ohayou
dear god that Pudge is so aweful
xsrsbsns
"Nightstalker Oyasumi"

lol'd

dNextGen
VP why u heff to be so noop
Soulclenz
Ahaha, sweet avatars. WTB some loots tonight!
dNextGen
mr Clenz pls donate me some rares
Soulclenz

dNextGen wrote:

mr Clenz pls donate me some rares
Sure, cough me up the Spectre helm and weapon from ti3 chest and i'll hook you up =p.
Triskelion91
I opened 2 chests today and got 2 rubick staves. :(
Soulclenz

Triskelion91 wrote:

I opened 2 chests today and got 2 rubick staves. :(
I have 4 chests in my backpack that I plan on opening before Ti3 is over. But I would like to trade for the Spectre pieces before doing so.
Triskelion91
I'll let you know if I happen to get one of them!
Tetsu_old
Nice game from Alliance and TongFu but in the end...Hao wth were you thinking?...
Soulclenz
I feel really bad for MUFC right now, they just aren't prepared at all for this. Someone give them at least 1 win!
rzkadi
4 games left, but still mufc with 0 wins and alliance with 0 loses

bmin11
Orange showed as a better team against iG. Still surprising how iG isn't performing too well. I really should start following Chinese scene.


EDIT: So... I think I just saw an AM with BF, Manta, and Heart in 27 min
druidxd
Gotta love this cute Nevermore, so awesome drawings this guy has.
xsrsbsns

Tetsu wrote:

Nice game from Alliance and TongFu but in the end...Hao wth were you thinking?...
Hiryuu_old
poor mufc
Crigget
RIP MUFC
dNextGen
MUFC saving strats for TI3

i also wonder how do you guys got 100 cs in <10 minutes

i tried as hard as i can with jungle Naix and only topped at 100 cs in 15 minute-ish :?
Hiryuu_old

dNextGen wrote:

MUFC saving strats for TI3

i also wonder how do you guys got 100 cs in <10 minutes

i tried as hard as i can with jungle Naix and only topped at 100 cs in 15 minute-ish :?
Stack the creeps in the jungle and occasionally when you see an opportunity to go to a lane incase your teammates are missing or you are about to gank, you can grab a few extra creeps there, also helps. It also varies, depending on what creeps you get. Also it doesn't hurt to ask a supporter to stack some spots for you as well.
Pizzicato
gg [A]
Icyteru
navi 10 games in a row!
dNextGen

ShinseinaTenshi wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

MUFC saving strats for TI3

i also wonder how do you guys got 100 cs in <10 minutes

i tried as hard as i can with jungle Naix and only topped at 100 cs in 15 minute-ish :?
Stack the creeps in the jungle and occasionally when you see an opportunity to go to a lane incase your teammates are missing or you are about to gank, you can grab a few extra creeps there, also helps. It also varies, depending on what creeps you get. Also it doesn't hurt to ask a supporter to stack some spots for you as well.
oh right stacking,thing is i play solo q where everyone is a carry

i hope the western gonna take #1 this year,pls no chinese team
Tshemmp
and I keep betting on MUFC, the quotes are so hilarious
dNextGen
you better gime dem rares instead of betting on MUFC

my brain says they wont win a single game and my heart says the same aswell
Soulclenz

dNextGen wrote:

oh right stacking,thing is i play solo q where everyone is a carry

i hope the western gonna take #1 this year,pls no chinese team
Since you solo queue DNG, toss that dream of high CK/high GPM games out the window. It isn't just the carry who has to do well on last hits, but true support players need to tirelessly pull and stack and not steal last hits from you for a huge portion of the early game, you will never find that in solo pub Q's im afraid =(.
rzkadi

Soulclenz wrote:

Since you solo queue DNG, toss that dream of high CK/high GPM games out the window. It isn't just the carry who has to do well on last hits, but true support players need to tirelessly pull and stack and not steal last hits from you for a huge portion of the early game, you will never find that in solo pub Q's im afraid =(.
for high CS it's nearly impossible in solo Q pub, but for high GPM you can still do that with gondar ganking build. it can be happened only when your enemy are noob as fuck tho
Soulclenz

rzkadi wrote:

Soulclenz wrote:

Since you solo queue DNG, toss that dream of high CK/high GPM games out the window. It isn't just the carry who has to do well on last hits, but true support players need to tirelessly pull and stack and not steal last hits from you for a huge portion of the early game, you will never find that in solo pub Q's im afraid =(.
for high CS it's nearly impossible in solo Q pub, but for high GPM you can still do that with gondar ganking build. it can be happened only when your enemy are noob as fuck tho
Well sure lol. I meant high GPM from farming creeps.
rzkadi
if you pick alchemist and your luck is at peak, maybe you can :D
Icyteru
I was playing support SD for Yifan from AU who was playing alch in an inhouse -cm.

He hit 1200gpm peak, and ended game with 1100gpm cause he wasted last few minutes. Can confirm good support makes a lot of difference.
Hiryuu_old
A good supporter always makes a very big difference :)

Get one of your buds to q with you together and try out a combination that could win the laning phase nicely and to be able to help the other lanes later on , that's usually the best thing to do if you want a duo top or bot. You'd at least have a person trustful to hear you out what to do etc.

When it comes to stacking, there is also the trick that, if you're good with basic micro you could double stack with the help of Helm of the Dominator item, you can control a creep, bring it to a jungle creep spawn, pull them in one spot with the creep in your control and the other spot with your hero and you've 2x stacked, that also works nicely in case you don't seem to have a nice supporter on the team or any at all for that matter. Also, as a recommendation from my own experience when you are in jungle and there isn't a supporter on the team and people are bitching about no wards constantly, if you do have the gold for it, get some wards yourself and place them in the jungle, the fact that 150 g spent on an area to see if they're coming for you, will save you a lot instead of no vision and being paranoid and you most likely will end up getting ganked and losing precious money + exp time.
Tshemmp
The best thing about stacking is the moment after minutes of work when you can finally throw on your DK ulti or Batrider Firefly and get all this delicious gold and xp.

Or if you find an enemy stacked camp.
Pizzicato
just u ppl wait mufc will beat [A] even before the draft starts

Tshemmp wrote:

Or if you find an enemy stacked camp.
the glory of stealing stacks. feels good.
stole 4 ancient stacks from gyro on a -cm inhouse game

really boosted my farm and wasted their time
Icyteru
Wards are counterintuitive for lane protection this meta because it gives you a false impression of being safe, when really, if the enemy is decent, they'll just smoke up.
Also why I hate PA, cause i play 90% from the minimap.
Magicphoenix
GPM always depends.
On lane you can't get high GPM (that is, 700+) unless you stack camps or get them stacked.
If you solo queue and have solo lane, get quelling blade and start stacking creeps and make sure you cut paths with QB so creeps always have free path to the camps. Instead of static farming (keeping creep equilibrium, harassing hero out of lane etc) you sometimes just have to clear the creepwave ASAP and at the same time pull in the creeps so they transition to the neutral camp right as the enemy creepwave is cleared.
This is heavily dire-dependant but it's a general idea of how it should work, for Radiant you can just stack medium camps and pull them in normally after killing enemy creepwave.

If you play an ancient-killer carry, get HotD and start stacking ancients.
Never forget TPs for proper movement. If you play a carry with high killing potential, go kill heroes whenever you see a good pickoff and don't have to invest too much time into it. Best case scenario, catch out a hero who's pushing lane so you can farm creeps right after.
Of course, if you play Mirana you should more actively look for them than Anti-Mage or Spectre, but you still have to think if you'd win more by killing or more by farming.
Sometimes (or rather, most of the times) farming is better than killing or waiting for a teamfight to break out.
Never tp into losing teamfights where you know you won't be able to win it or have a chance of dying if you have to sacrifice farm for it.

The easiest heroes to practice high GPM-ing are Gyro & Drow Ranger.
Drow with 800+ GPM is really easy to do if you get the gist of her. If I have absolute freefarm on lane, I just buy HotD before any other item and start stacking ancients, with lvl 6 you can already farm them due to ulti. She's got massive damage as well so missing creeps is more seldom than other heroes.


tl;dr
The most important thing to get that high GPM running is having a proper rotation, never tp/walk(which is even worse) somewhere where you can't farm or/and kill.
Also, don't be lazy. Try to stack neutrals whenever you can, if you have Ancient-farmer, buy HotD and stack it up.
Quelling blade also proves as very useful as you can stack multiple camps with it




PS : If you can't get your teamm8s to buy wards, buy them yourself. It's better to lose 150 gold than 300+ & farm time.
PPS : If you have russians in your team, get dagon and shadow blade. Try to steal whatever you can and gtfo jungle farm
rzkadi
and also you cant count on ward for your vision forever. keep rotating,ganking, and stacking is the safest way to secure your gpm and xpm
Magicphoenix
QB action


Notice the trees that were cut. You can pull them (some only with boots) @x:52, get the next camp by x:54/55 and stack both at once.
Exploit every advantage your hero has. AM can for example stack up to 3 camps (see last screenshot) by Quelling Blading the trees of both medium-creeps.
Then get bottom medium creep @ x:52, upper medium by x:53/54 and blink to big camp @ x:55 to stack all at once.
Likewise, any AoE spell can get the same job done (unless it's Mud Fuckers), e.g. Alchemist Spray or Gyrocopter (flak cannon both mediums and go straight to big camp to stack it [Not that necessary though, since you have HotD to stack ancients hopefully]) etc.
Just try to exploit every hero advantage that it can give you


PS : Best method for routinizing it - don't give a fuck about a game. Pick carry and just focus on practicing that one method. If you throw it, good job. You learned a new way to increase your GPM. If you can avoid it though, you probably should :D
rzkadi
thx for the stacking tutor dude. and also i cant see the trees that were cut in 4th image
Magicphoenix

rzkadi wrote:

thx for the stacking tutor dude. and also i cant see the trees that were cut in 4th image
Magicphoenix
Also, those who are still struggling with creep equilibirum, try to prioritize denying over last hitting.
If both are last hittable at once though, get the money of course.
Keep in mind though that, when your support is stacking and/or pulling, the equilibrium will eventually land at the enemy tower bit by bit, so don't panic and think you've gone wrong somewhere. If you have the feeling you did your best keeping the equi., it's probably alright.

+ If you're last hitting under the tower, always quickly click on the 1 creep that's being attacked and calculate for yourself if you have to hit it once before last hit or if you can just let tower hit it until you can last it.
The tower deals ~95 damage and as the average carry you should have 55-60 dmg. Meaning that if the creep's got 255 hp, you should probably hit it once to get the last hit. If the creep's got 288 hp, you should just wait for the 3 hits to come from the tower. Keep in mind that sometimes the creep regenerates by ~6 hp at times so just keep the camera on the creep a bit longer to see if he regens. This does not happen too often though, but you never know. It mightve been the 50 gold to buy you boots for your escape.

If you got Faceless Void + Quelling Blade, please slap yourself for every last hit you don't get when freefarming
dNextGen
its hard to farm with void

he is squishy as hell and stuff,i always got the hard lane whenever i play void because #Seadoto
Tetsu_old
Lawl.
dNextGen


i did this one with Naix and it work wonders

still stuck at 608 gpm though,clearly naix not the best farmer

Tetsu wrote:

Lawl.
lol TC is the only dude with a decent face
Pizzicato
i'll never be a good farmer. my peak is 528 gpm :l
Soulclenz

dNextGen wrote:

its hard to farm with void

he is squishy as hell and stuff,i always got the hard lane whenever i play void because #Seadoto
you should stop playing Void and start playing Spectre =p.

With her zoom zoom build (phase boots, drums and yasha) you can really focus on creep killing, and also not leave your team high and dry should a fight break out. Her dagger will let you effortlessly stack camps, escape/chase if heroes are coming for you, and the move speed +tree/cliff walking is great for quickly getting around the jungle and lanes.

I have been practising the living hell out of this build in solo pubs and with my team and I definitely recommend it. Although i am slightly biased since i just love spectre.
Magicphoenix
My Spectre build :
PMS
Phase
Magic Wand
Drums
Vit Booster
Radiance/diffu (+ manta)
HoT/situational luxuries

pretty strong stuff if u ask me
dNextGen

Soulclenz wrote:

you should stop playing Void and start playing Spectre =p.

With her zoom zoom build (phase boots, drums and yasha) you can really focus on creep killing, and also not leave your team high and dry should a fight break out. Her dagger will let you effortlessly stack camps, escape/chase if heroes are coming for you, and the move speed +tree/cliff walking is great for quickly getting around the jungle and lanes.

I have been practising the living hell out of this build in solo pubs and with my team and I definitely recommend it. Although i am slightly biased since i just love spectre.
http://dotabuff.com/players/83562211/records

yeah Spectre is good for Asisst hero

i might play her again when i got the Blade from the TI3 chest

Magicphoenix wrote:

My Spectre build :
PMS
Phase
Magic Wand
Drums
Vit Booster
Radiance/diffu (+ manta)
HoT/situational luxuries

pretty strong stuff if u ask me
people still buuild Radiance on Spectre ?

i thot it was outdated
Magicphoenix
The difference is that you don't go it first item anymore so you actually have midgame potential.
Radiance also has more dmg since the new patch so it's not too 'fing bad.
Also, with the Spectre buff (the illusions still stay even after Spectre tps in) it's a lot lot more effective.
Not to forget the farming ability and damage that is never bad for you.
Soulclenz
Yeah radiance works still if you can get it in time. I can't recall the last time I personally have ever built a radiance though.

My build is similar to Magic's except I opt the more risky build and go;
Phase
Wand
Drums
Yasha
Diffusal
Manta

Depending on the opposing team, I will either build an AC, Bfly, daed or MKB. I just don't see a need for high hp, but this is my personal preference.
dNextGen
lol i was a fgt i build Tread on Spectre

what about Skill build ? i max dagger 1st because its good for Kill securing

i still dont know how to farm fast without going to stay in the jungle though,so i only play carry heroes such Weaver/PA

might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
Magicphoenix
When I play PA :
Go to lane.
Farm.
Rotate lane.
Farm.
Farm Ancient stack.
Rotate lane.
Farm.
End game.

Spectre skill build :
1 Dagger
2 Desolate
3 Dagger
-> max Dagger by 7
-> max Desolate
-> max Disperson
Soulclenz

dNextGen wrote:

lol i was a fgt i build Tread on Spectre

what about Skill build ? i max dagger 1st because its good for Kill securing

i still dont know how to farm fast without going to stay in the jungle though,so i only play carry heroes such Weaver/PA

might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
My skill build on spectre is Q,W,Q,W,Q,R,Q,W,W,E,R,E,E,E and then stats and last point in R of course.

It's true, PA is deadly even without much farm but you of course are insanely easy to kill without it. I'm one of those odd players that very rarely if ever gets a bfury, on PA i just bypass it for the yasha and BKB so i have an easier time staying alive, Coupe De Grace does most of the work yes, but having more farm will just push that number higher and higher (obviously).
rzkadi
when i was playing spectre i never take desolate on early game, and i prefer more tanky build on spec because i love to rush in when the clash happen.

my skill build on spectre is Q,E,Q,E,Q,R,Q,E,E,W,R,W,W,W,stats point,R.

for my item build it's not much differ from clenz and phoenix.

-phase boots(core items)
-midas(situational)
-yasha(core items)
-blade mail(core items)
-bkb (situational)
-manta/sangyash(situational)
-diffu(situational)
-HoT(core items)
-Radiance/butterfly (depends on situation)

radiance/butterfly is a must, because this item is my main damage source of this build
for midas you can go by this if you rarely being targeted and got free farm all the way, its obviously can provide some decent gold and exp too
Soulclenz

rzkadi wrote:

when i was playing spectre i never take desolate on early game, and i prefer tanky build on spec because i love to rush in when the clash happen.

my skill build on spectre is Q,E,Q,E,Q,R,Q,E,E,W,R,W,W,W,stats point,R.

for my item build it's not much differ from clenz and phoenix.

-phase boots
-yasha
-blade mail
-bkb (if needed)
-manta/sangyash
-HoT
-Radiance/butterfly (depends on situation)
Ahhh see, that build can work, but it strains your team quite a bit. The beauty about maxing desolate out early is that if a team fight ensues, just pushing R will deal significantly more damage than if your dispersion was maxed. Desolate will also make short work of a fleeing support as well.

In order for dispersion to be fully effective, you need to be able to take quite a bit of damage, and early game level 1 illusions from Spectre's haunt will pretty much die if someone even looks at them, especially with phase boots/yasha.

with Drums before Yasha, when you're in your dagger path and phase boots are popped, you move 1 speed less than runespeed I believe.
Soulclenz
Alliance stomping orange with Ursa, holy moly.
rzkadi
all hail mufc !!!
Tetsu_old

dNextGen wrote:

might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
Yeap, she doesn't need that much farm if you compare her to other carries. In DotA (Warcraft 3) few years ago, when I could farm a few minutes without getting ganked, the first item I was buying in most cases was Butterfly if my opponents had picked heroes like Drow Ranger, Terrorblade, Anti-Mage, Void etc. There was a trick to make her evasion (3rd skill) stack with Butterfly's evasion. Not to mention that the only think you could see was her shadow if her Evasion was on max level.

Good results for DK, didn't expect that after the results of the last 2 tournaments.
Let's hope BurNing can do something amazing at this tournament since it's his last.
P.S. BurNing your soul.
bmin11
rzkadi
alliance do it again...

srsly in this year international west teams comes out with more unique strat and pick, besides east teams still play as monotone as ever. not much change from TI2012, but more reckless imo, or maybe they was just saving strat for the main event? who knows

and also dendi's pudge never cease to amaze me, even LGD are desperate facing his pudge.
Icyteru
Refresher orb of venom/diffusal and radiance is fucking ridiculous for spectre. Its better than refresher aghas warlock in teamfights
Pizzicato


qq LGD


na`vi vs [A] pls pls pls
Soulclenz
Exciting times ahead, can't wait until it's all on the mainstage and we have the crowd cheering along with the casters screaming.
dNextGen
matchmaking getting more horrible as hell

last 24 hours i've been getting leaver on every fucking single game i played,and sadly theyre always on my team

Magicphoenix
I personally would've kept the rosh-bait strat for playoffs because of obvious reasons x_x

+
We certainly have an International audience at least lol :D
Lighty

dNextGen wrote:

might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
but why PHASE ? PT is absolutely better than phase at mortred cuz you have blink and slow. Also mortred's AS isn't enough to get 100% crit even with blink.
Also guys don't you know does toss work if smb tp to base ?
dNextGen
just personal preference

i only build Treads on heroes like Weaver/Slark nowdays
Tshemmp

Lighty wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
but why PHASE ? PT is absolutely better than phase at mortred cuz you have blink and slow. Also mortred's AS isn't enough to get 100% crit even with blink.
Also guys don't you know does toss work if smb tp to base ?
Phase boots give you very cheap damage which is good for your ulti. Also you don't really need the AS from PT because your blink strike already boosts your AS heavily.
Magicphoenix

Lighty wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
but why PHASE ? PT is absolutely better than phase at mortred cuz you have blink and slow. Also mortred's AS isn't enough to get 100% crit even with blink.
Also guys don't you know does toss work if smb tp to base ?
You need to be slammin' not slappin' 'coz blink gives you so much attack speed already.
+ she kinda needs mobility
Pizzicato

dNextGen wrote:

matchmaking getting more horrible as hell

last 24 hours i've been getting leaver on every fucking single game i played,and sadly theyre always on my team

there are times that you need to stop grinding xD
Lighty

Magicphoenix wrote:

'coz blink gives you so much attack speed already.
+ she kinda needs mobility
Only for 4 hits :<
Magicphoenix
yeah and then you can just hit them a few times more if they aren't already dead by then.
She doesn't sit in fight and hits, she jumps to a person and chases him to death until he dies, specially in early-midgame
Hear damage output with just 1-2 crits which will probably occur during 4-5 hits is very much high enough
rzkadi
guys i wanna hear your opinion about IO skill build and item build. i do have my own build but still, i didnt get any hint to play IO decently :(
Pizzicato


won't get overcharge till i got a healing item
rzkadi
for item build? do you go full support or half carry?
Pizzicato

rzkadi wrote:

for item build? do you go full support or half carry?
soul ring -> urn -> meka -> perseverance -> bloodstone are cores. i get them no matter what

for luxury, if pure support i'd go for a force staff and drums. For a half-support and a potential side hitter, i'd go for heaven's halberd (the only decent damage item for wisp imo)

what's a wisp half-carry
dNextGen

Pizzicato wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

matchmaking getting more horrible as hell

last 24 hours i've been getting leaver on every fucking single game i played,and sadly theyre always on my team

there are times that you need to stop grinding xD
yeah dude pls play with me

i only have like 3 good pinoy friends and they're rarely on anymore

so sad
Soulclenz
In regards to phase over treads on a hero like PA, right now the name of the game for carry heroes is move speed, and more move speed. Don't forget too that phase lets you unitwalk, and if you're a smart carry you will always try to stutter step your attacks or move in front of your target to block them and mess up their retreat which buys time for allies to assist, should you need it.

Even with phase, an agi carry should be attacking plenty fast enough if you have your core items made.
rzkadi

Pizzicato wrote:

soul ring -> urn -> meka -> perseverance -> bloodstone are cores. i get them no matter what

for luxury, if pure support i'd go for a force staff and drums. For a half-support and a potential side hitter, i'd go for heaven's halberd (the only decent damage item for wisp imo)

what's a wisp half-carry
errr.. sorry i mean main carry. i've once played against a team that using IO as their main carry, so at first i thought IO was a carry heroes. his item build is like HoT, boots of travel, sangyash, radiance, helm of dominator, MKB. and he was pretty much dominating the game
Magicphoenix
My wisp build :
Courier/Wards
3x branches
2x clarity
1x tango
1x salve

-> boots
-> urn/wand
-> urn/wand (depending on the action)
-> arcanes
(-> drums)
-> mek
-> dagger/force staff
-> game is probably over by now
otherwise luxuries like Scythe of Vise/Shiva's Guard n stuff
Soulclenz

rzkadi wrote:

Pizzicato wrote:

soul ring -> urn -> meka -> perseverance -> bloodstone are cores. i get them no matter what

for luxury, if pure support i'd go for a force staff and drums. For a half-support and a potential side hitter, i'd go for heaven's halberd (the only decent damage item for wisp imo)

what's a wisp half-carry
errr.. sorry i mean main carry. i've once played against a team that using IO as their main carry, so at first i thought IO was a carry heroes. his item build is like HoT, boots of travel, sangyash, radiance, helm of dominator, MKB. and he was pretty much dominating the game
Carry IO is something you will only see a greedy pub do. If he had the gold to make the items you mention then the game was probably over for quite some time.

The best way to play Io is to have a friend, or a smart pub player pick someone like CK/Tiny/Centaur and when you hit 6, all you do is port him around the map and get easy kills. Your item build should be healing and mana regen, since when you tether to someone and use an item like arcane boots or mek, it will double over on the hero you are linked too, essentially fully healing them and fully regening their mana pool.
Pizzicato

rzkadi wrote:

errr.. sorry i mean main carry. i've once played against a team that using IO as their main carry, so at first i thought IO was a carry heroes. his item build is like HoT, boots of travel, sangyash, radiance, helm of dominator, MKB. and he was pretty much dominating the game
what

how

his base damage and strength growth per level is too low for wisp to become a carry (unless you people keep dying on his spirits early game)
never saw a full-carry wisp ever since he came out, and im talking about pinoy gaming where supports are built as carries too

someone mentioned arcane boots on wisp.

tranq boots are nerfed tho. look at the latest stats

oh and yeah, if you didn't know yet, this is crucial if you're playing wisp

If you Tether someone before you are teleported, the duration of the Tether will be refreshed to 12 seconds but the cooldown will not. This means that if you Tether someone a few seconds before using Relocate, you can re- Tether them at the location and get 2 stuns in
Soulclenz
Ahh, yeah the soul ring and tranq boots can be a potent mix on Io. Arcane boots is always nice for the team as a whole though, assuming you are giving it to more than one hero at a time.
Tshemmp
Carry Io is just like carry Magnus, just because you got a dps buff (Overcharge/Empower) you are not a carry. Better buff your "true" carry than yourself because they are scaling much better into late game than you.

Also
Why do we still have to wait 24 hours asjdfljkasdfaslghlsfk
dNextGen
Magnus carry is still better than Io though,people build Magnus mainly as carry in wc3 dota

no TI3 games today what im going to do with my life now

also that pic is awesome Tshempp where did you find it D:
Hiryuu_old
Tell me about it, I'm dyin to see it already \o/
Magicphoenix
Hiryuu_old
Soulclenz
Btw DNG, re-looking at your screenshot you took of the game of leavers (poor spectre =( ) I couldn't help but notice you have a quelling blade. Personally i get a stout shield in place of that, should pay off more in the long run, especially if your support is pulling for you.
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