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Icyteru
Refresher orb of venom/diffusal and radiance is fucking ridiculous for spectre. Its better than refresher aghas warlock in teamfights
Pizzicato


qq LGD


na`vi vs [A] pls pls pls
Soulclenz
Exciting times ahead, can't wait until it's all on the mainstage and we have the crowd cheering along with the casters screaming.
dNextGen
matchmaking getting more horrible as hell

last 24 hours i've been getting leaver on every fucking single game i played,and sadly theyre always on my team

Magicphoenix
I personally would've kept the rosh-bait strat for playoffs because of obvious reasons x_x

+
We certainly have an International audience at least lol :D
Lighty

dNextGen wrote:

might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
but why PHASE ? PT is absolutely better than phase at mortred cuz you have blink and slow. Also mortred's AS isn't enough to get 100% crit even with blink.
Also guys don't you know does toss work if smb tp to base ?
dNextGen
just personal preference

i only build Treads on heroes like Weaver/Slark nowdays
Tshemmp

Lighty wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
but why PHASE ? PT is absolutely better than phase at mortred cuz you have blink and slow. Also mortred's AS isn't enough to get 100% crit even with blink.
Also guys don't you know does toss work if smb tp to base ?
Phase boots give you very cheap damage which is good for your ulti. Also you don't really need the AS from PT because your blink strike already boosts your AS heavily.
Magicphoenix

Lighty wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
but why PHASE ? PT is absolutely better than phase at mortred cuz you have blink and slow. Also mortred's AS isn't enough to get 100% crit even with blink.
Also guys don't you know does toss work if smb tp to base ?
You need to be slammin' not slappin' 'coz blink gives you so much attack speed already.
+ she kinda needs mobility
Pizzicato

dNextGen wrote:

matchmaking getting more horrible as hell

last 24 hours i've been getting leaver on every fucking single game i played,and sadly theyre always on my team

there are times that you need to stop grinding xD
Lighty

Magicphoenix wrote:

'coz blink gives you so much attack speed already.
+ she kinda needs mobility
Only for 4 hits :<
Magicphoenix
yeah and then you can just hit them a few times more if they aren't already dead by then.
She doesn't sit in fight and hits, she jumps to a person and chases him to death until he dies, specially in early-midgame
Hear damage output with just 1-2 crits which will probably occur during 4-5 hits is very much high enough
rzkadi
guys i wanna hear your opinion about IO skill build and item build. i do have my own build but still, i didnt get any hint to play IO decently :(
Pizzicato


won't get overcharge till i got a healing item
rzkadi
for item build? do you go full support or half carry?
Pizzicato

rzkadi wrote:

for item build? do you go full support or half carry?
soul ring -> urn -> meka -> perseverance -> bloodstone are cores. i get them no matter what

for luxury, if pure support i'd go for a force staff and drums. For a half-support and a potential side hitter, i'd go for heaven's halberd (the only decent damage item for wisp imo)

what's a wisp half-carry
dNextGen

Pizzicato wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

matchmaking getting more horrible as hell

last 24 hours i've been getting leaver on every fucking single game i played,and sadly theyre always on my team

there are times that you need to stop grinding xD
yeah dude pls play with me

i only have like 3 good pinoy friends and they're rarely on anymore

so sad
Soulclenz
In regards to phase over treads on a hero like PA, right now the name of the game for carry heroes is move speed, and more move speed. Don't forget too that phase lets you unitwalk, and if you're a smart carry you will always try to stutter step your attacks or move in front of your target to block them and mess up their retreat which buys time for allies to assist, should you need it.

Even with phase, an agi carry should be attacking plenty fast enough if you have your core items made.
rzkadi

Pizzicato wrote:

soul ring -> urn -> meka -> perseverance -> bloodstone are cores. i get them no matter what

for luxury, if pure support i'd go for a force staff and drums. For a half-support and a potential side hitter, i'd go for heaven's halberd (the only decent damage item for wisp imo)

what's a wisp half-carry
errr.. sorry i mean main carry. i've once played against a team that using IO as their main carry, so at first i thought IO was a carry heroes. his item build is like HoT, boots of travel, sangyash, radiance, helm of dominator, MKB. and he was pretty much dominating the game
Magicphoenix
My wisp build :
Courier/Wards
3x branches
2x clarity
1x tango
1x salve

-> boots
-> urn/wand
-> urn/wand (depending on the action)
-> arcanes
(-> drums)
-> mek
-> dagger/force staff
-> game is probably over by now
otherwise luxuries like Scythe of Vise/Shiva's Guard n stuff
Soulclenz

rzkadi wrote:

Pizzicato wrote:

soul ring -> urn -> meka -> perseverance -> bloodstone are cores. i get them no matter what

for luxury, if pure support i'd go for a force staff and drums. For a half-support and a potential side hitter, i'd go for heaven's halberd (the only decent damage item for wisp imo)

what's a wisp half-carry
errr.. sorry i mean main carry. i've once played against a team that using IO as their main carry, so at first i thought IO was a carry heroes. his item build is like HoT, boots of travel, sangyash, radiance, helm of dominator, MKB. and he was pretty much dominating the game
Carry IO is something you will only see a greedy pub do. If he had the gold to make the items you mention then the game was probably over for quite some time.

The best way to play Io is to have a friend, or a smart pub player pick someone like CK/Tiny/Centaur and when you hit 6, all you do is port him around the map and get easy kills. Your item build should be healing and mana regen, since when you tether to someone and use an item like arcane boots or mek, it will double over on the hero you are linked too, essentially fully healing them and fully regening their mana pool.
Pizzicato

rzkadi wrote:

errr.. sorry i mean main carry. i've once played against a team that using IO as their main carry, so at first i thought IO was a carry heroes. his item build is like HoT, boots of travel, sangyash, radiance, helm of dominator, MKB. and he was pretty much dominating the game
what

how

his base damage and strength growth per level is too low for wisp to become a carry (unless you people keep dying on his spirits early game)
never saw a full-carry wisp ever since he came out, and im talking about pinoy gaming where supports are built as carries too

someone mentioned arcane boots on wisp.

tranq boots are nerfed tho. look at the latest stats

oh and yeah, if you didn't know yet, this is crucial if you're playing wisp

If you Tether someone before you are teleported, the duration of the Tether will be refreshed to 12 seconds but the cooldown will not. This means that if you Tether someone a few seconds before using Relocate, you can re- Tether them at the location and get 2 stuns in
Soulclenz
Ahh, yeah the soul ring and tranq boots can be a potent mix on Io. Arcane boots is always nice for the team as a whole though, assuming you are giving it to more than one hero at a time.
Tshemmp
Carry Io is just like carry Magnus, just because you got a dps buff (Overcharge/Empower) you are not a carry. Better buff your "true" carry than yourself because they are scaling much better into late game than you.

Also
Why do we still have to wait 24 hours asjdfljkasdfaslghlsfk
dNextGen
Magnus carry is still better than Io though,people build Magnus mainly as carry in wc3 dota

no TI3 games today what im going to do with my life now

also that pic is awesome Tshempp where did you find it D:
Hiryuu_old
Tell me about it, I'm dyin to see it already \o/
Magicphoenix
Hiryuu_old
Soulclenz
Btw DNG, re-looking at your screenshot you took of the game of leavers (poor spectre =( ) I couldn't help but notice you have a quelling blade. Personally i get a stout shield in place of that, should pay off more in the long run, especially if your support is pulling for you.
Pizzicato
remove MUFC from that wallpaper lol
i can only go for youtube replays because my internet is so poor :[

Soulclenz wrote:

Btw DNG, re-looking at your screenshot you took of the game of leavers (poor spectre =( ) I couldn't help but notice you have a quelling blade. Personally i get a stout shield in place of that, should pay off more in the long run, especially if your support is pulling for you.
and i'd personally go for QB Stoutshield and salve

because why not
Soulclenz

Pizzicato wrote:

and i'd personally go for QB Stoutshield and salve

because why not
That works too. I hate not having tangos though =(.
bmin11
I can't let go of both stout and tangos if I'm playing a melee farmer. I'm not good enough to handle both harasses and pulls without it :(
Tetsu_old
We found him!

2:25
Soulclenz
Lmao. Oh god he is in trouble.
Hiryuu_old


0:13
dNextGen

Soulclenz wrote:

Btw DNG, re-looking at your screenshot you took of the game of leavers (poor spectre =( ) I couldn't help but notice you have a quelling blade. Personally i get a stout shield in place of that, should pay off more in the long run, especially if your support is pulling for you.
in solo q,you wont get any lasthit if you dont have QB

trust me

and they told me to lane with sniper also,lol fuck this game
Suzoku


I AM NOW BALLING OUT OF CONTROL
dNextGen


beat me fgt,i can see now why Weaver is picked a lot in TI3 lately

this spider cunt is so hard to kill
bmin11

Suzoku wrote:



I AM NOW BALLING OUT OF CONTROL
Buy refresher orb for the maximum balling out
Pizzicato
TI 3 SPOILER

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