SingSing visage will never be good as cwm's even if he try hard
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reason why i hate playin with peenoy stacks
going to cliff and singing for 20 minutes is so good yeah
going to cliff and singing for 20 minutes is so good yeah
SingSing is overall a better player than CWM since Mouz days so I wouldn't be surprised if he can play better Visage in the future.dNextGen wrote:
SingSing visage will never be good as cwm's even if he try hard
yeah but he aint as dick as cwm though D:
i want to see Kaipad so baad,pls make it happen
i want to see Kaipad so baad,pls make it happen
Jonathan Berg @LodaBerg 16m
- Im amazed that @Delta had techical issues so we couldnt check-in. Then once we received help the flight was full.
Shole @Sholebb 12m
- @LodaBerg @Delta Are you in Amsterdam aswell? I know that Dendi, Xboct and Puppey are in Amsterdam(or were and left, not quite sure)...
Jonathan Berg @LodaBerg 11m
- @Sholebb @Delta THEY STOLE OUR SEATS
What do you think about Dendi stealing the seats? What do u think about Alliance being stuck at the airport? :/ Discuss!
UPDATE:
It seems that Na'Vi really got the seats that were for Alliance first..
Jonathan Berg @LodaBerg 11m
- The biggest question is how @Delta can GIVE away our seats on our flight, but we cannot get seats at a later flight -_-
Johnny Ly @JohnnyJreezy 10m
- @LodaBerg @Delta hating on @theAllianceGG ?
Jonathan Berg @LodaBerg 9m
- @JohnnyJreezy @Delta @theAllianceGG since they just gave our seats to na'vi its obvious there is a conspiration going on
- Im amazed that @Delta had techical issues so we couldnt check-in. Then once we received help the flight was full.
Shole @Sholebb 12m
- @LodaBerg @Delta Are you in Amsterdam aswell? I know that Dendi, Xboct and Puppey are in Amsterdam(or were and left, not quite sure)...
Jonathan Berg @LodaBerg 11m
- @Sholebb @Delta THEY STOLE OUR SEATS
What do you think about Dendi stealing the seats? What do u think about Alliance being stuck at the airport? :/ Discuss!
UPDATE:
It seems that Na'Vi really got the seats that were for Alliance first..
Jonathan Berg @LodaBerg 11m
- The biggest question is how @Delta can GIVE away our seats on our flight, but we cannot get seats at a later flight -_-
Johnny Ly @JohnnyJreezy 10m
- @LodaBerg @Delta hating on @theAllianceGG ?
Jonathan Berg @LodaBerg 9m
- @JohnnyJreezy @Delta @theAllianceGG since they just gave our seats to na'vi its obvious there is a conspiration going on
If anyone gets the Spectre loots from any of the international chests they might open, I'd love to get my hands on em and im willing to trade pretty much any other international piece of loot.
damn the new Drow set is awesome 
volvo stole my money again
volvo stole my money again
pardon the reddit post but
is this real?
is this real?
yeahPizzicato wrote:
pardon the reddit post but
is this real?
cant wait to the 1st match(Quantic vs RS),it's starting like 2 AM in here though
Should be exciting games. I'm ready to win my loots.
Team A has my favourite players...but Team B has the best of each role individually
akke and puppey
dual jungle ftw
dual jungle ftw
all star match looks lke russian trying to invade china server
When will next international 3 match start? wanna watch it! 
Ez rares, especially the last game, pure perfection from the Chinese.
wont call it perfection though,Quantic seems choked throughout the whole game
lot of unimportant mistakes and shit
Few months have past since this:
Yesterday we had this when he started listening to the Korean.
SingSing so famous, even the Korean know him. Kappa.
Yesterday we had this when he started listening to the Korean.
SingSing so famous, even the Korean know him. Kappa.
Kappa.
That kotl on game 4 was SICK.
That kotl on game 4 was SICK.
Yeah, pure perfection is giving them a bit too much credit. They played well and the games were overall good but Quantic really blew it on their own, more than once.
When Rattle picked Bane in game 2, I couldn't help but ask myself why he was on the battlefield for almost the entirety of that match. He was a complete detriment to the outcome of that match.
In game 4, there were just too many mistakes to mention from Quantic, and their overall lineup was just a mess. But Rattle also made some pretty questionable plays as well, like diving for the harpy kill.
When Rattle picked Bane in game 2, I couldn't help but ask myself why he was on the battlefield for almost the entirety of that match. He was a complete detriment to the outcome of that match.
In game 4, there were just too many mistakes to mention from Quantic, and their overall lineup was just a mess. But Rattle also made some pretty questionable plays as well, like diving for the harpy kill.
indeed,nothing special by RS actually,it just quantic aint playin like they're used to
Fnatic vs Navi game 1 so interesting D:
get rekd Navi noop \D;/
Fnatic vs Navi game 1 so interesting D:
get rekd Navi noop \D;/
Super annoyed to see the server instability taking place right now.dNextGen wrote:
indeed,nothing special by RS actually,it just quantic aint playin like they're used to
Fnatic vs Navi game 1 so interesting D:
get rekd Navi noop \D;/
Great games across the table though, except for DK vs Dignitas, they clearly weren't prepared for that.
PS: gimme loots.
Yeah, pure perfection shouldn't be the word to describe their performance. KotL and Weaver played great in the last game. The way Weaver was split-pushing was great against the picks Quantic made, it was difficult to stop him. I remember when they even put 4 wards near tier 2 bottom tower and still couldn't stop him. Weaver also forced Quantic not to fight as 5 in the last minutes. And KotL had a big impact with his tp's.Soulclenz wrote:
Yeah, pure perfection is giving them a bit too much credit. They played well and the games were overall good but Quantic really blew it on their own, more than once.
i want to go full dick mode but i guess i wont
clearly invitation to Dignitrash is a waste,did they even put up a fight,would be better if Kaipi got invited instead Dignitas
also i got no loots mr clenz sry anyone able to watch in-game ? i cant even login to dota 2
clearly invitation to Dignitrash is a waste,did they even put up a fight,would be better if Kaipi got invited instead Dignitas
also i got no loots mr clenz sry
anyone able to watch in-game ? i cant even login to dota 2I read on gosugamers (or it was joindota? I dont remember well) that Valve wanted at least 2 North American teams, that's why they invite them.
Even though they played poorly, I still wish them well. I am not going to count anyone out of these matches, perhaps they need to meditate on their last matches.
oh ic D:Tetsu wrote:
I read on gosugamers (or it was joindota? I dont remember well) that Valve wanted at least 2 North American teams, that's why they invite them.
i hope the chinese wont take the #1 this year though
i dont care if its Navi,[A] or Liquid,please not chinese
Na'vi still with their TI2 I guess
hahaha i fucking love it when Navi lose
Navi fanboi tears best tears
edit : Era's Naix
Navi fanboi tears best tears
edit : Era's Naix
I was gonna put all my rares for Fnatic since it was 20% for them and 80% for NaVi but the bot was full and I couldn't bet even 2 hours before the game... :/
I am truly confused as to why Lifestealer is making it through the ban phases as easily as he has been, he is so clearly dominant right now. Oh well, him being picked is helping my predictions at least.
i fucking lold whenever a kid from LoL tries to shit on the game and always got their msg deleted
BTS mods <3
BTS mods <3
Just got reminded why I hate Naga so much
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I still don't get why Naix is not perma-banned, a long time ago when it was modified to what he is now (long range slow at lvl 1 tho) we were already talking about how it was overpowered as fuck, I would perma-ban it against teams I know they play strats based on that hero.
wow fuck that dev for fuck sakePizzicato wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA
naix is not op dude,clearly having free lifesteal and BKB + attack speed steroid is not op
at least he is not retarded as he was in Dota 1 though,where Rage is his ultimate and the only one Active skill he has
Truthfully, the pause did nothing to change the outcome of the fight even though I'm sure many people are thinking otherwise.
As for Naix. I don't think he should be perma banned, i just don't understand how the teams are letting him get through the ban phases when it's obvious they want to play him.
As for Naix. I don't think he should be perma banned, i just don't understand how the teams are letting him get through the ban phases when it's obvious they want to play him.
pick ur avatars guys
http://artofhkm.deviantart.com/gallery/?q=ohayou
http://artofhkm.deviantart.com/gallery/?q=ohayou
That is scary o_o
venomancer looks so cute, give it a hug
kawaEE
dont mind if i do
thanks
thanks
i think that Finol dude just want some attention,maybe teams will appreciate Naix more when they got stomped by EraSoulclenz wrote:
Truthfully, the pause did nothing to change the outcome of the fight even though I'm sure many people are thinking otherwise.
As for Naix. I don't think he should be perma banned, i just don't understand how the teams are letting him get through the ban phases.
dear god that Pudge is so awefulMagicphoenix wrote:
pick ur avatars guys
http://artofhkm.deviantart.com/gallery/?q=ohayou
VP why u heff to be so noop
mr Clenz pls donate me some rares
Sure, cough me up the Spectre helm and weapon from ti3 chest and i'll hook you up =p.dNextGen wrote:
mr Clenz pls donate me some rares
I opened 2 chests today and got 2 rubick staves.
I have 4 chests in my backpack that I plan on opening before Ti3 is over. But I would like to trade for the Spectre pieces before doing so.Triskelion91 wrote:
I opened 2 chests today and got 2 rubick staves.
I'll let you know if I happen to get one of them!
Nice game from Alliance and TongFu but in the end...Hao wth were you thinking?...
I feel really bad for MUFC right now, they just aren't prepared at all for this. Someone give them at least 1 win!
4 games left, but still mufc with 0 wins and alliance with 0 loses
Orange showed as a better team against iG. Still surprising how iG isn't performing too well. I really should start following Chinese scene.
EDIT: So... I think I just saw an AM with BF, Manta, and Heart in 27 min
EDIT: So... I think I just saw an AM with BF, Manta, and Heart in 27 min
Gotta love this cute Nevermore, so awesome drawings this guy has.
Tetsu wrote:
Nice game from Alliance and TongFu but in the end...Hao wth were you thinking?...
poor mufc
MUFC saving strats for TI3
i also wonder how do you guys got 100 cs in <10 minutes
i tried as hard as i can with jungle Naix and only topped at 100 cs in 15 minute-ish
i also wonder how do you guys got 100 cs in <10 minutes
i tried as hard as i can with jungle Naix and only topped at 100 cs in 15 minute-ish
Stack the creeps in the jungle and occasionally when you see an opportunity to go to a lane incase your teammates are missing or you are about to gank, you can grab a few extra creeps there, also helps. It also varies, depending on what creeps you get. Also it doesn't hurt to ask a supporter to stack some spots for you as well.dNextGen wrote:
MUFC saving strats for TI3
i also wonder how do you guys got 100 cs in <10 minutes
i tried as hard as i can with jungle Naix and only topped at 100 cs in 15 minute-ish
gg [A]
oh right stacking,thing is i play solo q where everyone is a carryShinseinaTenshi wrote:
Stack the creeps in the jungle and occasionally when you see an opportunity to go to a lane incase your teammates are missing or you are about to gank, you can grab a few extra creeps there, also helps. It also varies, depending on what creeps you get. Also it doesn't hurt to ask a supporter to stack some spots for you as well.dNextGen wrote:
MUFC saving strats for TI3
i also wonder how do you guys got 100 cs in <10 minutes
i tried as hard as i can with jungle Naix and only topped at 100 cs in 15 minute-ish
i hope the western gonna take #1 this year,pls no chinese team
and I keep betting on MUFC, the quotes are so hilarious
you better gime dem rares instead of betting on MUFC
my brain says they wont win a single game and my heart says the same aswell
my brain says they wont win a single game and my heart says the same aswell
Since you solo queue DNG, toss that dream of high CK/high GPM games out the window. It isn't just the carry who has to do well on last hits, but true support players need to tirelessly pull and stack and not steal last hits from you for a huge portion of the early game, you will never find that in solo pub Q's im afraid =(.dNextGen wrote:
oh right stacking,thing is i play solo q where everyone is a carry
i hope the western gonna take #1 this year,pls no chinese team
for high CS it's nearly impossible in solo Q pub, but for high GPM you can still do that with gondar ganking build. it can be happened only when your enemy are noob as fuck thoSoulclenz wrote:
Since you solo queue DNG, toss that dream of high CK/high GPM games out the window. It isn't just the carry who has to do well on last hits, but true support players need to tirelessly pull and stack and not steal last hits from you for a huge portion of the early game, you will never find that in solo pub Q's im afraid =(.
Well sure lol. I meant high GPM from farming creeps.rzkadi wrote:
for high CS it's nearly impossible in solo Q pub, but for high GPM you can still do that with gondar ganking build. it can be happened only when your enemy are noob as fuck thoSoulclenz wrote:
Since you solo queue DNG, toss that dream of high CK/high GPM games out the window. It isn't just the carry who has to do well on last hits, but true support players need to tirelessly pull and stack and not steal last hits from you for a huge portion of the early game, you will never find that in solo pub Q's im afraid =(.
if you pick alchemist and your luck is at peak, maybe you can
I was playing support SD for Yifan from AU who was playing alch in an inhouse -cm.
He hit 1200gpm peak, and ended game with 1100gpm cause he wasted last few minutes. Can confirm good support makes a lot of difference.
He hit 1200gpm peak, and ended game with 1100gpm cause he wasted last few minutes. Can confirm good support makes a lot of difference.
A good supporter always makes a very big difference
Get one of your buds to q with you together and try out a combination that could win the laning phase nicely and to be able to help the other lanes later on , that's usually the best thing to do if you want a duo top or bot. You'd at least have a person trustful to hear you out what to do etc.
When it comes to stacking, there is also the trick that, if you're good with basic micro you could double stack with the help of Helm of the Dominator item, you can control a creep, bring it to a jungle creep spawn, pull them in one spot with the creep in your control and the other spot with your hero and you've 2x stacked, that also works nicely in case you don't seem to have a nice supporter on the team or any at all for that matter. Also, as a recommendation from my own experience when you are in jungle and there isn't a supporter on the team and people are bitching about no wards constantly, if you do have the gold for it, get some wards yourself and place them in the jungle, the fact that 150 g spent on an area to see if they're coming for you, will save you a lot instead of no vision and being paranoid and you most likely will end up getting ganked and losing precious money + exp time.
Get one of your buds to q with you together and try out a combination that could win the laning phase nicely and to be able to help the other lanes later on , that's usually the best thing to do if you want a duo top or bot. You'd at least have a person trustful to hear you out what to do etc.
When it comes to stacking, there is also the trick that, if you're good with basic micro you could double stack with the help of Helm of the Dominator item, you can control a creep, bring it to a jungle creep spawn, pull them in one spot with the creep in your control and the other spot with your hero and you've 2x stacked, that also works nicely in case you don't seem to have a nice supporter on the team or any at all for that matter. Also, as a recommendation from my own experience when you are in jungle and there isn't a supporter on the team and people are bitching about no wards constantly, if you do have the gold for it, get some wards yourself and place them in the jungle, the fact that 150 g spent on an area to see if they're coming for you, will save you a lot instead of no vision and being paranoid and you most likely will end up getting ganked and losing precious money + exp time.
The best thing about stacking is the moment after minutes of work when you can finally throw on your DK ulti or Batrider Firefly and get all this delicious gold and xp.
Or if you find an enemy stacked camp.
Or if you find an enemy stacked camp.
just u ppl wait mufc will beat [A] even before the draft starts
stole 4 ancient stacks from gyro on a -cm inhouse game
really boosted my farm and wasted their time
the glory of stealing stacks. feels good.Tshemmp wrote:
Or if you find an enemy stacked camp.
stole 4 ancient stacks from gyro on a -cm inhouse game
really boosted my farm and wasted their time
Wards are counterintuitive for lane protection this meta because it gives you a false impression of being safe, when really, if the enemy is decent, they'll just smoke up.
Also why I hate PA, cause i play 90% from the minimap.
Also why I hate PA, cause i play 90% from the minimap.
GPM always depends.
On lane you can't get high GPM (that is, 700+) unless you stack camps or get them stacked.
If you solo queue and have solo lane, get quelling blade and start stacking creeps and make sure you cut paths with QB so creeps always have free path to the camps. Instead of static farming (keeping creep equilibrium, harassing hero out of lane etc) you sometimes just have to clear the creepwave ASAP and at the same time pull in the creeps so they transition to the neutral camp right as the enemy creepwave is cleared.
This is heavily dire-dependant but it's a general idea of how it should work, for Radiant you can just stack medium camps and pull them in normally after killing enemy creepwave.
If you play an ancient-killer carry, get HotD and start stacking ancients.
Never forget TPs for proper movement. If you play a carry with high killing potential, go kill heroes whenever you see a good pickoff and don't have to invest too much time into it. Best case scenario, catch out a hero who's pushing lane so you can farm creeps right after.
Of course, if you play Mirana you should more actively look for them than Anti-Mage or Spectre, but you still have to think if you'd win more by killing or more by farming.
Sometimes (or rather, most of the times) farming is better than killing or waiting for a teamfight to break out.
Never tp into losing teamfights where you know you won't be able to win it or have a chance of dying if you have to sacrifice farm for it.
The easiest heroes to practice high GPM-ing are Gyro & Drow Ranger.
Drow with 800+ GPM is really easy to do if you get the gist of her. If I have absolute freefarm on lane, I just buy HotD before any other item and start stacking ancients, with lvl 6 you can already farm them due to ulti. She's got massive damage as well so missing creeps is more seldom than other heroes.
tl;dr
The most important thing to get that high GPM running is having a proper rotation, never tp/walk(which is even worse) somewhere where you can't farm or/and kill.
Also, don't be lazy. Try to stack neutrals whenever you can, if you have Ancient-farmer, buy HotD and stack it up.
Quelling blade also proves as very useful as you can stack multiple camps with it
PS : If you can't get your teamm8s to buy wards, buy them yourself. It's better to lose 150 gold than 300+ & farm time.
PPS : If you have russians in your team, get dagon and shadow blade. Try to steal whatever you can and gtfo jungle farm
On lane you can't get high GPM (that is, 700+) unless you stack camps or get them stacked.
If you solo queue and have solo lane, get quelling blade and start stacking creeps and make sure you cut paths with QB so creeps always have free path to the camps. Instead of static farming (keeping creep equilibrium, harassing hero out of lane etc) you sometimes just have to clear the creepwave ASAP and at the same time pull in the creeps so they transition to the neutral camp right as the enemy creepwave is cleared.
This is heavily dire-dependant but it's a general idea of how it should work, for Radiant you can just stack medium camps and pull them in normally after killing enemy creepwave.
If you play an ancient-killer carry, get HotD and start stacking ancients.
Never forget TPs for proper movement. If you play a carry with high killing potential, go kill heroes whenever you see a good pickoff and don't have to invest too much time into it. Best case scenario, catch out a hero who's pushing lane so you can farm creeps right after.
Of course, if you play Mirana you should more actively look for them than Anti-Mage or Spectre, but you still have to think if you'd win more by killing or more by farming.
Sometimes (or rather, most of the times) farming is better than killing or waiting for a teamfight to break out.
Never tp into losing teamfights where you know you won't be able to win it or have a chance of dying if you have to sacrifice farm for it.
The easiest heroes to practice high GPM-ing are Gyro & Drow Ranger.
Drow with 800+ GPM is really easy to do if you get the gist of her. If I have absolute freefarm on lane, I just buy HotD before any other item and start stacking ancients, with lvl 6 you can already farm them due to ulti. She's got massive damage as well so missing creeps is more seldom than other heroes.
tl;dr
The most important thing to get that high GPM running is having a proper rotation, never tp/walk(which is even worse) somewhere where you can't farm or/and kill.
Also, don't be lazy. Try to stack neutrals whenever you can, if you have Ancient-farmer, buy HotD and stack it up.
Quelling blade also proves as very useful as you can stack multiple camps with it
PS : If you can't get your teamm8s to buy wards, buy them yourself. It's better to lose 150 gold than 300+ & farm time.
PPS : If you have russians in your team, get dagon and shadow blade. Try to steal whatever you can and gtfo jungle farm
and also you cant count on ward for your vision forever. keep rotating,ganking, and stacking is the safest way to secure your gpm and xpm
QB action
Notice the trees that were cut. You can pull them (some only with boots) @x:52, get the next camp by x:54/55 and stack both at once.
Exploit every advantage your hero has. AM can for example stack up to 3 camps (see last screenshot) by Quelling Blading the trees of both medium-creeps.
Then get bottom medium creep @ x:52, upper medium by x:53/54 and blink to big camp @ x:55 to stack all at once.
Likewise, any AoE spell can get the same job done (unless it's Mud Fuckers), e.g. Alchemist Spray or Gyrocopter (flak cannon both mediums and go straight to big camp to stack it [Not that necessary though, since you have HotD to stack ancients hopefully]) etc.
Just try to exploit every hero advantage that it can give you
PS : Best method for routinizing it - don't give a fuck about a game. Pick carry and just focus on practicing that one method. If you throw it, good job. You learned a new way to increase your GPM. If you can avoid it though, you probably should
Notice the trees that were cut. You can pull them (some only with boots) @x:52, get the next camp by x:54/55 and stack both at once.
Exploit every advantage your hero has. AM can for example stack up to 3 camps (see last screenshot) by Quelling Blading the trees of both medium-creeps.
Then get bottom medium creep @ x:52, upper medium by x:53/54 and blink to big camp @ x:55 to stack all at once.
Likewise, any AoE spell can get the same job done (unless it's Mud Fuckers), e.g. Alchemist Spray or Gyrocopter (flak cannon both mediums and go straight to big camp to stack it [Not that necessary though, since you have HotD to stack ancients hopefully]) etc.
Just try to exploit every hero advantage that it can give you
PS : Best method for routinizing it - don't give a fuck about a game. Pick carry and just focus on practicing that one method. If you throw it, good job. You learned a new way to increase your GPM. If you can avoid it though, you probably should
thx for the stacking tutor dude. and also i cant see the trees that were cut in 4th image
rzkadi wrote:
thx for the stacking tutor dude. and also i cant see the trees that were cut in 4th image
Also, those who are still struggling with creep equilibirum, try to prioritize denying over last hitting.
If both are last hittable at once though, get the money of course.
Keep in mind though that, when your support is stacking and/or pulling, the equilibrium will eventually land at the enemy tower bit by bit, so don't panic and think you've gone wrong somewhere. If you have the feeling you did your best keeping the equi., it's probably alright.
+ If you're last hitting under the tower, always quickly click on the 1 creep that's being attacked and calculate for yourself if you have to hit it once before last hit or if you can just let tower hit it until you can last it.
The tower deals ~95 damage and as the average carry you should have 55-60 dmg. Meaning that if the creep's got 255 hp, you should probably hit it once to get the last hit. If the creep's got 288 hp, you should just wait for the 3 hits to come from the tower. Keep in mind that sometimes the creep regenerates by ~6 hp at times so just keep the camera on the creep a bit longer to see if he regens. This does not happen too often though, but you never know. It mightve been the 50 gold to buy you boots for your escape.
If you got Faceless Void + Quelling Blade, please slap yourself for every last hit you don't get when freefarming
If both are last hittable at once though, get the money of course.
Keep in mind though that, when your support is stacking and/or pulling, the equilibrium will eventually land at the enemy tower bit by bit, so don't panic and think you've gone wrong somewhere. If you have the feeling you did your best keeping the equi., it's probably alright.
+ If you're last hitting under the tower, always quickly click on the 1 creep that's being attacked and calculate for yourself if you have to hit it once before last hit or if you can just let tower hit it until you can last it.
The tower deals ~95 damage and as the average carry you should have 55-60 dmg. Meaning that if the creep's got 255 hp, you should probably hit it once to get the last hit. If the creep's got 288 hp, you should just wait for the 3 hits to come from the tower. Keep in mind that sometimes the creep regenerates by ~6 hp at times so just keep the camera on the creep a bit longer to see if he regens. This does not happen too often though, but you never know. It mightve been the 50 gold to buy you boots for your escape.
If you got Faceless Void + Quelling Blade, please slap yourself for every last hit you don't get when freefarming
its hard to farm with void
he is squishy as hell and stuff,i always got the hard lane whenever i play void because #Seadoto
he is squishy as hell and stuff,i always got the hard lane whenever i play void because #Seadoto
i did this one with Naix and it work wonders
still stuck at 608 gpm though,clearly naix not the best farmer
lol TC is the only dude with a decent faceTetsu wrote:
Lawl.
i'll never be a good farmer. my peak is 528 gpm :l
you should stop playing Void and start playing Spectre =p.dNextGen wrote:
its hard to farm with void
he is squishy as hell and stuff,i always got the hard lane whenever i play void because #Seadoto
With her zoom zoom build (phase boots, drums and yasha) you can really focus on creep killing, and also not leave your team high and dry should a fight break out. Her dagger will let you effortlessly stack camps, escape/chase if heroes are coming for you, and the move speed +tree/cliff walking is great for quickly getting around the jungle and lanes.
I have been practising the living hell out of this build in solo pubs and with my team and I definitely recommend it. Although i am slightly biased since i just love spectre.
My Spectre build :
PMS
Phase
Magic Wand
Drums
Vit Booster
Radiance/diffu (+ manta)
HoT/situational luxuries
pretty strong stuff if u ask me
PMS
Phase
Magic Wand
Drums
Vit Booster
Radiance/diffu (+ manta)
HoT/situational luxuries
pretty strong stuff if u ask me
http://dotabuff.com/players/83562211/recordsSoulclenz wrote:
you should stop playing Void and start playing Spectre =p.
With her zoom zoom build (phase boots, drums and yasha) you can really focus on creep killing, and also not leave your team high and dry should a fight break out. Her dagger will let you effortlessly stack camps, escape/chase if heroes are coming for you, and the move speed +tree/cliff walking is great for quickly getting around the jungle and lanes.
I have been practising the living hell out of this build in solo pubs and with my team and I definitely recommend it. Although i am slightly biased since i just love spectre.
yeah Spectre is good for Asisst hero
i might play her again when i got the Blade from the TI3 chest
people still buuild Radiance on Spectre ?Magicphoenix wrote:
My Spectre build :
PMS
Phase
Magic Wand
Drums
Vit Booster
Radiance/diffu (+ manta)
HoT/situational luxuries
pretty strong stuff if u ask me
i thot it was outdated
The difference is that you don't go it first item anymore so you actually have midgame potential.
Radiance also has more dmg since the new patch so it's not too 'fing bad.
Also, with the Spectre buff (the illusions still stay even after Spectre tps in) it's a lot lot more effective.
Not to forget the farming ability and damage that is never bad for you.
Radiance also has more dmg since the new patch so it's not too 'fing bad.
Also, with the Spectre buff (the illusions still stay even after Spectre tps in) it's a lot lot more effective.
Not to forget the farming ability and damage that is never bad for you.
Yeah radiance works still if you can get it in time. I can't recall the last time I personally have ever built a radiance though.
My build is similar to Magic's except I opt the more risky build and go;
Phase
Wand
Drums
Yasha
Diffusal
Manta
Depending on the opposing team, I will either build an AC, Bfly, daed or MKB. I just don't see a need for high hp, but this is my personal preference.
My build is similar to Magic's except I opt the more risky build and go;
Phase
Wand
Drums
Yasha
Diffusal
Manta
Depending on the opposing team, I will either build an AC, Bfly, daed or MKB. I just don't see a need for high hp, but this is my personal preference.
lol i was a fgt i build Tread on Spectre
what about Skill build ? i max dagger 1st because its good for Kill securing
i still dont know how to farm fast without going to stay in the jungle though,so i only play carry heroes such Weaver/PA
might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
what about Skill build ? i max dagger 1st because its good for Kill securing
i still dont know how to farm fast without going to stay in the jungle though,so i only play carry heroes such Weaver/PA
might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
When I play PA :
Go to lane.
Farm.
Rotate lane.
Farm.
Farm Ancient stack.
Rotate lane.
Farm.
End game.
Spectre skill build :
1 Dagger
2 Desolate
3 Dagger
-> max Dagger by 7
-> max Desolate
-> max Disperson
Go to lane.
Farm.
Rotate lane.
Farm.
Farm Ancient stack.
Rotate lane.
Farm.
End game.
Spectre skill build :
1 Dagger
2 Desolate
3 Dagger
-> max Dagger by 7
-> max Desolate
-> max Disperson
My skill build on spectre is Q,W,Q,W,Q,R,Q,W,W,E,R,E,E,E and then stats and last point in R of course.dNextGen wrote:
lol i was a fgt i build Tread on Spectre
what about Skill build ? i max dagger 1st because its good for Kill securing
i still dont know how to farm fast without going to stay in the jungle though,so i only play carry heroes such Weaver/PA
might be weird but PA aint that farm dependant in my opinion,Phase and Battlefury alone is enough to finish the game fast
It's true, PA is deadly even without much farm but you of course are insanely easy to kill without it. I'm one of those odd players that very rarely if ever gets a bfury, on PA i just bypass it for the yasha and BKB so i have an easier time staying alive, Coupe De Grace does most of the work yes, but having more farm will just push that number higher and higher (obviously).
when i was playing spectre i never take desolate on early game, and i prefer more tanky build on spec because i love to rush in when the clash happen.
my skill build on spectre is Q,E,Q,E,Q,R,Q,E,E,W,R,W,W,W,stats point,R.
for my item build it's not much differ from clenz and phoenix.
-phase boots(core items)
-midas(situational)
-yasha(core items)
-blade mail(core items)
-bkb (situational)
-manta/sangyash(situational)
-diffu(situational)
-HoT(core items)
-Radiance/butterfly (depends on situation)
radiance/butterfly is a must, because this item is my main damage source of this build
for midas you can go by this if you rarely being targeted and got free farm all the way, its obviously can provide some decent gold and exp too
my skill build on spectre is Q,E,Q,E,Q,R,Q,E,E,W,R,W,W,W,stats point,R.
for my item build it's not much differ from clenz and phoenix.
-phase boots(core items)
-midas(situational)
-yasha(core items)
-blade mail(core items)
-bkb (situational)
-manta/sangyash(situational)
-diffu(situational)
-HoT(core items)
-Radiance/butterfly (depends on situation)
radiance/butterfly is a must, because this item is my main damage source of this build
for midas you can go by this if you rarely being targeted and got free farm all the way, its obviously can provide some decent gold and exp too
Ahhh see, that build can work, but it strains your team quite a bit. The beauty about maxing desolate out early is that if a team fight ensues, just pushing R will deal significantly more damage than if your dispersion was maxed. Desolate will also make short work of a fleeing support as well.rzkadi wrote:
when i was playing spectre i never take desolate on early game, and i prefer tanky build on spec because i love to rush in when the clash happen.
my skill build on spectre is Q,E,Q,E,Q,R,Q,E,E,W,R,W,W,W,stats point,R.
for my item build it's not much differ from clenz and phoenix.
-phase boots
-yasha
-blade mail
-bkb (if needed)
-manta/sangyash
-HoT
-Radiance/butterfly (depends on situation)
In order for dispersion to be fully effective, you need to be able to take quite a bit of damage, and early game level 1 illusions from Spectre's haunt will pretty much die if someone even looks at them, especially with phase boots/yasha.
with Drums before Yasha, when you're in your dagger path and phase boots are popped, you move 1 speed less than runespeed I believe.