The way I see it, seems like "Interesting N1 vs information now" :<Tsukasa wrote:
Information that are not limited to
1) Scumz on wagon
2) Scum hammer-Town hammer difference
3) Scum-Scum Relationship
4) Town-Scum Relationship
5) Decrease in scumpool
6) The potential of actually lessening mislynch when a wagon is currently active (Meaning It's still not lynched but probably about to, unless some undeniable force acts on it)
I tend to go off OP words ( which probably isn't a good idea) but Q's throwing "what if jester/fool" is just suspicious to me.Raging Bull wrote:
@mod, is there a third party?
I guess I played too much Random Setups in EpicMafia. Got used to playing a setup that has 3rd parties.Raging Bull wrote:
I tend to go off OP words ( which probably isn't a good idea) but Q's throwing "what if jester/fool" is just suspicious to me.
reason for that is that we are atm discussing if we no lynch or if we lynch someone.CalignoBot wrote:
I'm really not liking all the sheeping of my Quaraezha points, yet no one acting on them. This looks like scum positioning.
what's alignment neutral?CalignoBot wrote:
Oh.
That's alignment-neutral.
then tsukasa should read for you as scum I suppose? since he attacked the claim directly?CalignoBot wrote:
The claim.
I don't understand what this means. All pinging meant in that post was basically committing.Tanzklaue wrote:
you talked about pinging a secret scumread, and whether pinging means attacking or defending, you mean either fart or tsukasa. I didn't utter any read about anyone else (except you, but why should you scumread yourself?)CalignoBot wrote:
The claim.
how can you use a scumtell as mafia to win the game?CalignoBot wrote:
I have experience off this site, yes. I'd link to my wiki page, but it hasn't really been updated in a couple years.
The specific tell I'm seeing here was something subtle I used to win my first game as mafia. I've noticed in other games that town really don't do this. It's a player-irrelevant tell.
I'm not going to reveal exactly what it is, though, since then it won't be effective anymore.
Can I know what it is then?pieguy1372 wrote:
k unvote vote: RB
fartownik, even if I say you're town, you're doing exactly what I remember you doing as mafia (following what everyone else says)
because if it is something that you can see scum doing, and you could tell that they are scum from that tell, then it has to be an error or a slip of some sorts I imagine.CalignoBot wrote:
I don't understand where you got error from.
and my point is that his secret tell isn't worth a damn thing if he doesn't say what it is. might just as well be made uppieguy1372 wrote:
Tanz the whole point of a secret tell is that once people know what it is they don't do it anymore making it useless
You might seem it as 'out of nowhere', but I had him in mind for some time already. It was just a random reply as you mentioned him, I would do that tomorrow anyways. I was just glad someone else had the same gut feeling as me.pieguy1372 wrote:
fartownik: I noticed it in a few points (too lazy and tired to go pointing out each one) and then you immediately came up with RB out of nowhere right after I did..
but I'm not mafia.pieguy1372 wrote:
Tanz: probably it's some trick that only mafia can do
What I read is:Tanzklaue wrote:
Vote: No Lynch
I know you will give me even more scumcred for that, but I honestly don't see anyone else who is lynchworthy at this point.
Mod: votecount and remaining time, please.
That's 3 strikes.Tanzklaue wrote:
OMG I agree with Caligno against Qua.
Nah I'll Follow Qua's NL"
And What I read isTanzklaue wrote:
Tsukasa is scum.
Vote: Tsuk-- Let's make that No LynchTanzklaue wrote:
Look at me I'm AtE'ing. I ish town
fartownik is missing an 'r'Kanye West wrote:
VOTE COUNTQuaraezha: BRBP, CalignoBot
Raging Bull: pieguy1372, fatownik
No Lynch: Quaraezha
Rantai: Tsukasa
Let me know if there's any mistakes.
I'm sorry for the inconsistencies, I just really messed up and my tries to fix that mess made it even worse.Quaraezha wrote:
Also, I'm still sticking with NL.
I see you guys bandwaggoning RB all of a sudden and I don't really understand all these "secret tells" you guys talk about. RB seemed to defend himself well too. Tsukasa also has a point about Tankz' inconsistency as well. Make up your mind.
Despite my FOS on Tankz, I still want to give everybody a chance to try out their abilities.
Tankzlue did claim that he was a Mystery Role.
Now what do you have on ME?pieguy1372 wrote:
elaborate what you have on me plz unless it's just what you said before
currently, making up a lot of BS reasons to get me lynched. and most of the time, the reason behind someone trying to defend himself so much against something like this is the original person being right. there is no way to defend against gut feeling, it's like trying to defend against an RV (which I did once as mafia btw)Raging Bull wrote:
It is exactly what I said before
1) Being hypocritical and saying I hop around when you did too where did I hop around see #2 plz
2) Voting for Calingo and then unvoting based on his experience in a forum. that vote was just to get him to explain his reasoning plz read my post
3) Still have not answered my question are you serious? the idea was that we can still use principles from D1 even if it's D2. anyway I think now NL is a bad idea so who cares
4) Admitted basically his vote on me was gut feeling only. so what, also there was another reason, read my post plz
5) Let's just assume Calingo is new. There is no proof that a new person cannot have a scum read too. did you even read my post
6) Admitting #2 so?
7 Admitting #3 so?Now what do you have on ME?pieguy1372 wrote:
elaborate what you have on me plz unless it's just what you said before
they were part of it but not the most major component, also gut feeling always plays a major part in my votes D1. last time, I didn't replace in until like D2 or so iirc and I haven't played any games here besides that in ages, also gut feeling was still a major part of my vote in D2, similar to todayTanzklaue wrote:
if I read this correctly, you even outright said that the "above reasons" which aren't gut feeling weren't the main point of your vote.
Most of the time is not all of the time. I'm willing to get myself lynched on D2 then.pieguy1372 wrote:
and most of the time, the reason behind someone trying to defend himself so much against
so you're lynching me because I'm trying to get information? okRaging Bull wrote:
Vote RB - > Calingo - > RB = not hopping around? scum logic.
Yet a simple question would suffice, but apparently voting someone who is nowhere near lynch at all = pressure. I will never ever understand that because it makes no sense.
So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.using them for two days instead of one is "later"? using your own terminology, that's "scum logic"
Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.except it is because it would make no sense in certain cases (if it was based off something explicitly Tanz did because that'd be impossible)
So now first it was a flip flop + gut feeling, then it was a gut feeling, now it's my behavior. okay.no, it was always flip flop + gut feeling, till you started acting weird, and then that got added in there
when Caligno said Tanz was "pinging some secret mafia vibes" or etc. I figured that meant meta or something that was specific to Tanz. better to ask and make sure, right?Raging Bull wrote:
(Calingo doesn't have to guess who is scum because someone looks scum to him)
What I'm trying to say is that why not use D1 scumhunting principles on D1 and then whatever happens on D2, D1 informatino can be carried over.yeah that's exactly why I eventually decided NL was a bad idea read the thread plz
Your gut feeling seems to be a defense from you as a backup in case someone challenges your reason on why you vote.hey at least it works sometimes
