This has no future, give up.
Wishy wrote:
This has no future, give up.
Your examples are idiotic, yet I will give you a point, you could just record your liveplay using Fraps and that's it, no real limitator there, still quite a pain to do so.Scheiby wrote:
1. It isn't fair, because some people's hardware are too slow?! Hmm.... How many people can't play in OWC because their skill is too low? Or what's about talented people who doesn't have a pc?
What I mean: At this project can more players take part of it as somewhere else. So please don't say it's not fair.
2. Judgement is subjective? Yeah... of course! It's not about points and highscore, but about performance. There some Sports in the world where rated by this. Like real dancing, diving and many more!There are sports with subjective judgement, so what, they don't just put 2 or 3 random guys who are likely to know nothing about the game to decide who's the best, which is what you are proposing here.
And there would be criteria for rating you can choose: Accuracy, creativity, difficulty of beatmap and some more!
3. I only get tired by opinions like that. I wouldn't drop the event because I want to do it. That's why I'm here! If people don't want to do it, it's okay. I'll never force someone to dance with the cursor. But I want to give this event a chance! That's all!Whenever some random user proposes some random event, the outcome is always the same: it never even starts/he or she gets tired of it and drops it/event goes so slow players stop caring about it.
That's a good point and you're right! But this is only a suggestion and not the whole concept. If I get a "Okay!" I try my best to make it legit and professional as possible to create a fair rating system.winber1 wrote:
you aren't going to get those prizes without peppy's consent, and you won't get peppy's consent without a more solid and objective criteria and standpoint
That's what cursor dancing is, choosing an alternative path other than a straight line between notes.Vesrand wrote:
Can anyone explain what cursor dancing actually is? When u have circles in 2 points: point 1 and point 2 and u need to press them in series your cursor will be moving from point 1 to point 2 in a straight line. So wtf are you talking about?
benguin wrote:
I'm guessing for this tourney, we're mostly going to be playing easy's and normal's? I mean, anything higher and there's little room for one's creative expression since the timing between notes shrinks down.
I'm telling him the truth. This tournament is poorly explained, judgement is kind of random, no real details have been given, etc. My kind of posts is what this guy should be thanking since I'm telling him in a quite straight way what he is doing wrong = what he should change to make this better. It is also a fact that almost every random event proposed by a random user ends up in failure (if it even begins...) or is abandoned.benguin wrote:
Also, wishy, please learn to give things a chance before bashing it into the ground. You're making way too many assumptions that lead to you coming up with the conclusion that such a tournament will end in failure.
Or not even claiming anything and just vanishing.kriers wrote:
generic tournament ends with said random user disappearing from his/her own thread claiming to be too tired of organizing
Yeah... that would be boring. But like I wrote: Every player can choose the map he / she want! Any difficulty is fine. You have the total controll about what you playing. In this point is no restriction.Kanye West wrote:
freestyler tournament? don't you think it would be boring to have an entire tournament on one beatmap?
To be fair, your first post was entirely negative, offered no advice to make the event work, and was unnecessarily combative. Your remaining posts have been giving advice in a condescending and pessimistic manner. Since you seem to be defending your posts rather than apologizing for unintentionally sounding like a dick and proceeding to help the OP in a lighter tone, you probably didn't realize you sounded like a dick.Wishy wrote:
I'm telling him the truth. This tournament is poorly explained, judgement is kind of random, no real details have been given, etc. My kind of posts is what this guy should be thanking since I'm telling him in a quite straight way what he is doing wrong = what he should change to make this better. It is also a fact that almost every random event proposed by a random user ends up in failure (if it even begins...) or is abandoned.
I don't give a fuck about my tone, I still hold that this guy should drop this idea because not only it will be a miracle if it even starts but if it does it will probably end up like any generic random event ends. Hope it does not but from the looks it has...Daru wrote:
To be fair, your first post was entirely negative, offered no advice to make the event work, and was unnecessarily combative. Your remaining posts have been giving advice in a condescending and pessimistic manner. Since you seem to be defending your posts rather than apologizing for unintentionally sounding like a dick and proceeding to help the OP in a lighter tone, you probably didn't realize you sounded like a dick.
You sounded like a dick.
Yeah, figured as much.Wishy wrote:
I don't give a fuck about my tone
kriers wrote:
if the thread survives our pessimism then it might stand a chance.
Relax?Scheiby wrote:
- If you want to play with mod: Only ONE mod is allowed!
aaaaaaaaaaaand we have a winner.Pancake wrote:
If this ends up being done, then I'm in.
Tanzklaue wrote:
aaaaaaaaaaaand we have a winner.
unless somebody like cookiezi joins in.
which is why there probably should be at least some map regulations. because if someone like tom cursordances on maps like freedom dive, the rest of the competition might have problems to keep up. also if all people play the same map you can compare the performances better with each other.
Sorry, I dont' think that I understand your question. ^^veniastcline wrote:
How about higher diff like Insane get more points? Well uh, this is just like a benefit for pros. ._.
And you will use pp rank to decide what is pro and what not? That means I could literally use a relatively new account, pretend I'm someone else and win this? I find the concept of making a competition that doesn't focus on the quality of the actual play highly questionable. Not even speaking about the high amount of subjectivity flowing into such a concept.Scheiby wrote:
Sorry, I dont' think that I understand your question. ^^veniastcline wrote:
How about higher diff like Insane get more points? Well uh, this is just like a benefit for pros. ._.
If it is: Higher difficulty = More points? ---> That's right! (In comparison to the player's skill!)
If it's an other question, please explain it to me. ^^
But you can be sure there is no advantage for pro's! I promise!
I don't want to explain the decide concept now, because people could prepare on this to get a better result. But there will be a fair concept that take much time for the Tournament-team...Pancake wrote:
And you will use pp rank to decide what is pro and what not? That means I could literally use a relatively new account, pretend I'm someone else and win this
The actual play will be the primary point for rating. There are no complete differences between a Top10 player and someone on rank #29.494. There are only little limits for balance.Pancake wrote:
I find the concept of making a competition that doesn't focus on the quality of the actual play highly questionable. Not even speaking about the high amount of subjectivity flowing into such a concept.
You can find the answer in my first post:Pancake wrote:
If you really want to pull it through like that I'd suggest making a voting which decides for the winner in the end.
Scheiby wrote:
- The jury pick out their favorites and the community can vote the winner.
-----------> OR: The jury pick out their favorites ---> they show their skills on a livestream and the community can vote afterwards!