Joon wrote:

hi

req moding


[Easy]
00:37:790 (2) - start notes add finish
00:46:040 (3) - add clap
00:49:040 (2) - ^
00:49:790 (3) - start notes remove clap and End notes add clap
00:50:915 (1) - remove whistle
00:52:790 (4) - start notes add finish
00:53:540 (5) - ^
00:54:290 (1) - ^
01:09:290 (1) - 2st notes add clap
01:11:540 (3) - start notes add clap [suggestion]nope;w;
01:13:040 (5) - ^ [suggestion]nope;w;
01:14:540 (1) - ^ [suggestion]
01:16:040 (3) - ^ [suggestion]
01:21:665 (2,4) - change whistle
Applied :3

[Normal]

00:18:290 (1) - change finish
00:30:290 (1) - change finish
00:35:915 (1) - end notes change finish
00:37:415 (1) - end notes add finish
00:36:665 (2) - add whistle
00:42:290 (1) - start notes add finish+whistle
00:51:852 (3) - add clap [suggestion]no D: added w insted :3
00:52:415 (5) - add clap [suggestion]
00:54:290 (1) - start notes add finish
00:58:040 (1) - start notes add clap
00:59:540 (3) - ^
01:00:290 (1) - change finish+whistle
01:01:790 (4) - start notes add finish+whistle
01:11:540 (3) - start notes add clap
01:13:040 (1) - ^
01:14:540 (2) - ^
01:16:040 (1) - ^
Applied :3

[Shigofumi]
00:11:540 (1) - add whistle
00:36:290 (1) - start notes add clap
00:50:540 (4) - change clap
00:54:290 (1) - start notes add finish
01:23:540 (1) - start notes add clap
Fixed them all :3

good luck

Thx a lot for mod

1. Why is there DarknessAngel in the tag ? I don't see them having mapped a diff at all.
2. The Taiko spread is meh. It goes from Futsuu to Oni...
3. Correct offset is 295. Remember to resnap all notes and kiai sections.

1. The comboing is weird in this difficulty. I can't grasp what exactly it follows, but it does have consistency...
2. 00:30:295 (1,2) - I don't think this rhythm is acceptable for an Easy, even with a slider. It's confusing - it even confused me when I played) and the spacing being rather low doesn't help read it. Try using a full 1/1 slider instead. Either that or delete 00:31:420 (2) - which will give the player enough time to actually sightread the approach circle of the next beat, and make the rhythm less confusing (you'll have to rework the pattern). If you decide to change it, remember to change 00:36:295 (1) - for consistency as well.
3. 00:51:295 (2,3,4) - This spacing is inconsistent. It might be readable and playable for players with a bit of experience, but it might throw new players off. Also, it looks bad and could easily be fixed.
4. 01:20:545 (1,2,3,4) - I'm not exactly sure why you break your hitsound pattern on this combo ?

1. 00:20:540 (1) - This shouldn't have a new combo, to stay consistent with 00:06:290 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2. 00:24:290 (3) - It would look cool if you could change this slider's shape a bit so that 00:25:040 (1) - blankets it :3
3. 00:35:915 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - I'm not a big fan of stacks in a Normal or Easy diff, because they're confusing... especially in this case, when you use stacks for two different rhythms so close in time.
4. 01:01:790 (4) - It would sound better if you turned this into a rhythm like 01:00:290 (1,2) -
5. 01:20:540 (1) - needs a whistle on its first beat
6. 01:25:790 (1) - This should end on 01:28:790 - like the other diffs - its current ending point doesn't actually make sense with the song

1. Whatever kind of diff this is, why give it this weird diff name instead of a proper one ?
2. 00:02:540 (1) - Delete this to stay consistent with the other diffs and their starting point.
3. 00:47:915 (1) - This is unrankable: the first and last beat of the sliders are too close together and it's impossible to tell in which direction it goes.
4. Overall, the spacing and overlaps make this diff quite confusing to play. I'd suggest to go for clearer patterns and a more regular spacing.

1. 00:37:040 (50) - This should be moved 1/4 back (on the blue tick before) to match the song.
2. Weird end. I'd suggest to just finish the map at the spinner - the end sounds weird as is.

• Looks fine as is to me.

Shiro wrote:

Niko's Futsuu

1. 00:37:040 (50) - This should be moved 1/4 back (on the blue tick before) to match the song.
2. Weird end. I'd suggest to just finish the map at the spinner - the end sounds weird as is.

i will let google to do that if you think its good

Shiro wrote:

As per your request.

Please reply to this mod saying what you didn't fix (and what you did) and why.
Also, if you have any question, feel free to ask me in-game.

General

1. Why is there DarknessAngel in the tag ? I don't see them having mapped a diff at all.
   Let's see www
2. The Taiko spread is meh. It goes from Futsuu to Oni...
   Maybe the Oni isn't that Oni that I can change it a little lower diff?(In truth 1811 just give a diff named "1811's Taiko")
3. Correct offset is 295. Remember to resnap all notes and kiai sections.

Fix it

Easy

1. The comboing is weird in this difficulty. I can't grasp what exactly it follows, but it does have consistency...
   Well re-comboing them now :3
2. 00:30:295 (1,2) - I don't think this rhythm is acceptable for an Easy, even with a slider. It's confusing - it even confused me when I played) and the spacing being rather low doesn't help read it. Try using a full 1/1 slider instead. Either that or delete 00:31:420 (2) - which will give the player enough time to actually sightread the approach circle of the next beat, and make the rhythm less confusing (you'll have to rework the pattern). If you decide to change it, remember to change 00:36:295 (1) - for consistency as well.
   delete 00:31:420 (2) - now
3. 00:51:295 (2,3,4) - This spacing is inconsistent. It might be readable and playable for players with a bit of experience, but it might throw new players off. Also, it looks bad and could easily be fixed.
   Yep fixed it……
4. 01:20:545 (1,2,3,4) - I'm not exactly sure why you break your hitsound pattern on this combo ?
   A mistake;w;

Normal

1. 00:20:540 (1) - This shouldn't have a new combo, to stay consistent with 00:06:290 (1,2,3,4,5) -
   Fixed
2. 00:24:290 (3) - It would look cool if you could change this slider's shape a bit so that 00:25:040 (1) - blankets it :3
   Well fixed it :3
3. 00:35:915 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - I'm not a big fan of stacks in a Normal or Easy diff, because they're confusing... especially in this case, when you use stacks for two different rhythms so close in time.
   Yeah you are right fixed
4. 01:01:790 (4) - It would sound better if you turned this into a rhythm like 01:00:290 (1,2) -
5. 01:20:540 (1) - needs a whistle on its first beat
   Fixed :3
6. 01:25:790 (1) - This should end on 01:28:790 - like the other diffs - its current ending point doesn't actually make sense with the song
   foolish mistake >x<

Shigofumi

1. Whatever kind of diff this is, why give it this weird diff name instead of a proper one ?
   Well bcz the song is from the anime Shigofumi
2. 00:02:540 (1) - Delete this to stay consistent with the other diffs and their starting point.
   Actually I now add all the diff the spinnner D:
3. 00:47:915 (1) - This is unrankable: the first and last beat of the sliders are too close together and it's impossible to tell in which direction it goes.
   Fixed
4. Overall, the spacing and overlaps make this diff quite confusing to play. I'd suggest to go for clearer patterns and a more regular spacing.
   Rearranged Hopefully a better one :3

Niko's Futsuu

1. 00:37:040 (50) - This should be moved 1/4 back (on the blue tick before) to match the song.
2. Weird end. I'd suggest to just finish the map at the spinner - the end sounds weird as is.

1811's Oni

• Looks fine as is to me.

Hm... that's about it I think. Good luck on the mapset. Oh... Nice skin. =p

Frans Niko wrote:

Shiro wrote:

Niko's Futsuu

1. 00:37:040 (50) - This should be moved 1/4 back (on the blue tick before) to match the song.
2. Weird end. I'd suggest to just finish the map at the spinner - the end sounds weird as is.

i will let google to do that if you think its good

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

很科学的样子
是反话么QxQ

[Shigofumi]
00:13:045 (3,4) - 把两个滑条中间的那个点往里放一格比较好看 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/741064
实际上我蛮喜欢这种细节MOD的www
00:19:420 (2,3) - 感觉不好, 用00:13:045那样两个滑条比较好..
这样会不会算是滥用pattern诶;w;?
00:24:482 (2) - 去掉好点, 然后也不用叠起来, 单点放268:40附近就好
我觉得那里有音啊;w;不过去掉这样间距对了,先放着看看别的modder
00:34:420 (1,3) - 这里的间距不科学, 要这样ww http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/741069
这样感觉3会被cover D:然后3往后的间距也有点问题……嘛改了~
00:39:670 (4,5) - 这样看起来比较对称ww http://xiangce.baidu.com/picture/detail ... 74912baf48
怕被喷突然的间距改变:< Fixed :3
00:50:170 (3) - 这样就和心形叠起了, 不好, 我觉得要放上面 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/741079
OK :3
01:17:732 (7,8) - 先放滑条再单点比较好玩www
好阴人;w;
四方跳好评
谢谢>///<

[normal]
00:31:420 (1) - 这个往下点 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/741093
OK 改进~
00:55:795 (5) - 这里折线感觉不太好o.o http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/741094
好吧QxQ我不坚持了……全换成弯的算了

[easy]
00:36:295 (1) - 间距不科学
总有这种脑残错Q^Q

加油ww

Frostmourne wrote:

hi hi , seeing this waiting for so long and enough mods there !

General
- Missing video in Niko's Futsuu, you can choose whether add video for both diffs or remove video for both diff. You just have to make it consistent
- Change 0,0,"shigofumi.jpg",1,1 to 0,0,"shigofumi.jpg",0,0 in .osu (you have to open them via notepad and edit manually. It's a bug D:
Fixed them :3
- Wonder why does the Hard diff have Shigofumi as a name, I would rather change it to Hard to make it formal. Depends on you !
Well from the source of the song I think……And if no one likes it I will change it D:
- Talked about skin in IRC already, hope you fix them accordingly \:D/
Yeah thx for figuring out xD

Easy
00:19:045 (4) - Starting NC here fits the song better also you have to remove NC on 00:21:295 (1) - too.
00:49:045 (7) - NC here will make it follow the music better + not too long
Fixed the NC problem
00:53:545 (4) - This slider sounds better when the head : Clap , the tail : finish , try and see if you like it! because the head is on the point where the sound like violin !? actually sounds on obviously
I don;t know the instrument either D:But I think It was bcz a mistake converting note to slider X.x
01:00:670 (5) - Try removing this note, move 01:01:045 (5) - to 01:00:670 and add a slider on 01:01:795 ending at 01:02:170 (you have to remove a note beforehand) both sound and play much better.

SPOILER

Having them fixed……Also a nicer pattern :3
01:21:670 (2,3) - This stacking is so strongly against the play ability. I would move them to above. Something like this screenshot will help you(I hope ._.)Certainly helped :3
You also have to unstack both 01:21:670 (2,3) - to make it read much easier !

SPOILER

Stacking is not allowed in easy X.x……sorry I forget OxO

Normal
00:26:920 (4) - Nazi, move down 1 grid for better gap , the current almost touches the next slider and looks bad orz...
To be honest I like some nazi mods which will give much better result just by a little change,sounds like magic :3
00:35:920 (1) - Start this slider at 00:35:732 (5) - and extend it to 00:36:295, Be careful of your spacing as well !, also remove NC here and add at
00:36:670 instead. It will follow vocal like 00:33:295 (1,2,3,4) - better because it suddenly changed and played strange ;_;

SPOILER

Actully I just deleted some beats to cause the version you mod D: Sounds pretty sweet now :3
00:52:232 (4,5) - This sounds ok imo but I would rather hear the clap on (4) instead of (5) because it will fit with 00:51:670 (2,3) -
You have to try and see if it works for you , Do not forget to remove Clap on 00:52:420 (5) - as well
Yeah sounds sweet :3
00:53:545 (7) - clap head for better hitsounding , as I mentioned in the Easy diff
00:55:045 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - These are too hard to read for the Normal diff imo, as you saw me playing and got missed.
This is rhythm that I would make if I were you. They are much easier to read while following greatly on the vocal. But it needs to be fixed for many spacings

SPOILER

Just follow the voice right?Applied&Fixed as your suggestion :3
01:18:295 (3) - I would NC here because it starts the calm phrase. NC will fit so much better here
GO~

Shigofumi
I would lower HP by 1 tick. It might be a bit hard due to long NC in many sets so HP 6 will go along with OD better.
Fixed……But was it too low to a Hard diff?
00:26:170 (3) - I would move to x:216 y:260. The reason behind this is something like this exists in the set 00:13:045 (3,4) - . They just make this pattern looks like a slider jump. So moving this a bit far apart from 00:25:607 (2) - will help player read better also the spacing with the next slider is perfect with its spacing (~1.5 for both previous and next)
Learn it...Thx for so detailed explanation :3
00:50:920 (1) - I suggest you remove NC here and add NC at 00:51:670 (3) - instead because the spacing is changed to be a jump so you can form the star jump from this point with this NC too
Fixed it
00:55:607 (6) - Please reshape this slider a bit in this way. The current looks a bit dirty and the curve doesn't look that good imo. It's also good to see you move the slider a bit down from the above because you will make the blanket with 00:55:420 (5) - better.

SPOILER

I think so too
01:06:295 (1) - I personally don't like this spinner. It doesn't fit the music that well but on contrary, let this part blank to say calm with the music and wait to hit a note at 01:07:420 (1) - will be really great impression if you ask me Don't forget to NC at 01:07:420 (6) - if you want to remove this spinner.
And it's a too short spinner Removed it and yes,this part need calm
01:25:607 (5) - Nazi, move right 1 grid. I think it fits the spacing better
Get it :3
Sweet Hard !<3
Thx a lot to say that :3

Taikos are fine hehe

Quite a lot of work you have there in order to get a bubble (on Normal diff overall) !
Call me back for it and I will give you a bubble

Frostmourne wrote:

Taikos are fine hehe

Quite a lot of work you have there in order to get a bubble (on Normal diff overall) !
Call me back for it and I will give you a bubble

1. REALLY GOOD SONG! QuQ that's really really lovely song aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh <3
2. almost all the note's structures are good! >,< but you forget about something at muzukashii diff D: see the mods~

1. 00:34:045 (44) - k? clap sound here >w< better change d to be k ?
2. 01:09:295 (2) - K? i think it's better than k ?

1. 00:31:232 (74,75,76) - the stream is difficult for muzukashii diff. you can choose ddd or kkk or with 1/2 notes
2. 00:37:232 (97,98,99) - ^
3. 00:41:357 (113,114,115) - ^
4. 00:42:857 (120,121,122) - ^
5. 00:45:107 (128,129,130) - ^
6. 00:48:857 (143,144,145) - ^
7. 00:51:107 (152,153,154) - ^
8. 00:53:170 (164,165,166) - ^
9. 00:54:857 (171,172,173) - ^
10. 00:57:107 (181,182,183) - ^
11. 00:58:982 (191,192,193) - ^
12. 00:59:545 (195,196,197) - ^
13. 01:01:232 (202,203,204) - ^
14. 01:02:732 (209,210,211) - ^
15. 01:03:670 (215,216,217) - ^
16. 01:04:232 (219,220,221,222,223) - 5streams? it's better for Oni diff. i think you should change it to be 01:04:232 (219,220,221,222) - kkk d
17. 01:26:732 (292) - k? i follow the bell sound @_@ what do you think? ?
    

mingmichael wrote:

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:31:232 (74,75,76) - the stream is difficult for muzukashii diff. you can choose ddd or kkk or with 1/2 notes
2. 00:37:232 (97,98,99) - ^
3. 00:41:357 (113,114,115) - ^
4. 00:42:857 (120,121,122) - ^
5. 00:45:107 (128,129,130) - ^
6. 00:48:857 (143,144,145) - ^
7. 00:51:107 (152,153,154) - ^
8. 00:53:170 (164,165,166) - ^
9. 00:54:857 (171,172,173) - ^
10. 00:57:107 (181,182,183) - ^
11. 00:58:982 (191,192,193) - ^
12. 00:59:545 (195,196,197) - ^
13. 01:01:232 (202,203,204) - ^
14. 01:02:732 (209,210,211) - ^
15. 01:03:670 (215,216,217) - ^
16. 01:04:232 (219,220,221,222,223) - 5streams? it's better for Oni diff. i think you should change it to be 01:04:232 (219,220,221,222) - kkk d
17. 01:26:732 (292) - k? i follow the bell sound @_@ what do you think? ?
    

neonat wrote:

Shigofumi

00:02:545 (1) - how about ending at 00:05:545
nope for now D:
00:16:232 - add a note
expand note to slider instead :3
00:18:857 - ^nope D:
00:21:295 (1,2) - remove them and add a slider at 00:21:107 that ends at 00:21:482
00:24:482 (2) - shift to 00:24:670
00:47:732 - add a note
00:54:107 - ^
00:56:732 - ^yes but I can't find a way to add it without breaking the pattern D:
01:02:357 (3) - lengthen slider to end at 01:02:732
01:24:857 - add a note

Normal

00:02:545 (1) - same thing, how about ending at 00:05:545
01:08:170 (2) - slider end at 01:08:357
01:10:420 (2) - change to a repeat slider that repeats at 01:10:795

Frostmourne wrote:

Recheck

General
You should have these elements to finish the set of this song (I would rather see you add them because I think it's not complete
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Skin#Skin_Sets

spinner-background.png
spinner-circle.png
spinner-metre.png
In my Opinion……The wiki do need a update for the well known new spinner method(two spinner circles,glow effect,etc.)
Anyway deleted all the new elements and used the old method now

Missing video in 1811's Muzu (because you added a video in the Niko diff so I assume you want to let Taiko have the video)

Shigofumi
00:14:357 (1) - remove NC here , I see no reason why you added it
00:55:607 (6) - whistle on the tail doubles the sound with the slidertick and that doesn't sound good much so I suggest you remove it
01:21:670 (5) - NC?
Fix them all :3
that's all , no kudo

Frostmourne wrote:

Good luck for the first map !

Strawberry wrote:

sorry i have to pop this for the offset..

[]
　

1. offset: 287 (-8)

[]

1. 00:07:607 (3) - the spacing looks really weird and i want to ask, why set a tiny jump here? obviously it would be much better if you move it onto x.200 y.188.Idk……If it makes sense? Fixed though……
2. 00:08:170 (4) - to be consistent as above, move to x.252 y.268 and adjust the anchors for the better blanket. (and don't forget to restack the following circle (5)^
3. 00:09:107 (6) - why difference here? i mean the shape..Fixed
4. 00:10:795 (3) - make a blanket with circle (1) here? as a slow song the present pattern seems randomly and plays a bit awkward.. (such like this http://puu.sh/2SDcg.jpghmmm……Fixed
5. 00:14:357 (6) - you can make a adjustment here as well. make the arcs paralleled plz..^
6. 00:16:795 (4) - idk.. the repeats just look a bit absurd. it follows nothing. it could be much better by following the vocal or something suitable.. not the present one as i heard.
7. 00:19:420 (2) - i'd like to say "ctrl+g it" however i think you can totally del it and remake the new one copied by slider (1) with ctrl+hj fora neater composition.Fixed
8. 00:20:732 (5) - a bit loud for the such quiet intro on that tail. try 20% volume by inherited point?It does sound better……But I'm not the fan of green lines QxQ
9. 00:27:295 - ~00:29:920 - overmapped here. the rhythm are filled but sounds really messy bcz it's unreasonable for the music (nor the vocal.
10. 00:31:420 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/2SDpV.jpgK
11. 00:35:170 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - try to reset them like this? http://puu.sh/2SDwi.jpg
12. 00:55:607 (6) - make the blanket betterTried D:
13. 00:58:232 (1) - try to shape it as a blanket as above? and about this combo, i'd like to give my suggestions. http://puu.sh/2SDzQ.jpgIdk about 00:58:795 (3) - is suitable enough?
14. 01:04:232 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - plays weird. how about ctrl+g (1,3) and (2,4) on the orange combo respectively?

Still fixing……Don't recheck now

Since you told me to consider my map well and even remap some part.I will keep working.I will call you back when I think I am done

20:23 [-Google-]: Hi~
20:23 -Bakari-: hi
20:23 [-Google-]: If you are willing to,would you like to recheck my map?
20:23 [-Google-]: it's bubbled now
20:24 [-Google-]: opps 
20:24 [-Google-]: popped-bubble now :3
20:24 -Bakari-: Uh.. I can't repair your bubble and my mod will be useless for you because I've already mentioned everything that should be changed.
20:24 -Bakari-: Uh.. I can't repair your bubble and my mod will be useless for you because I've already mentioned everything that should be changed.
20:25 [-Google-]: will I know you can;t fix my bubble xD
20:25 [-Google-]: you said the Hard diff of mine seems messy
20:25 [-Google-]: so I just wonder if it is still messy now
20:26 [-Google-]: just this :D
20:26 [-Google-]: if so I want to know where is the place
20:27 -Bakari-: If your beatmap was bubbled - than this diff was rankable. But if you want me to check [Hard] again, I can do it
20:27 [-Google-]: since the BAT poped my map didn;t tell me so and told me to find some experienced modders xD
20:27 -Bakari-: I bet it was Shiro
20:27 [-Google-]: nope xD
20:28 [-Google-]: Shiro didn;t even give me bubble xD
20:28 [-Google-]: thx a lot if you can check my Hard diff :D
20:29 -Bakari-: Leave your map here, and I'll try to check it as soon as possible
20:29 [-Google-]: I wanted to find Shiro indeed but I think it;s not good to find another BAT while you map is poped
20:29 [-Google-]: sorry for my talktive X.x
20:29 *[-Google-] is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/238379 Snow* - Chain (TV Size)]
20:31 -Bakari-: By the way, did Strawberry told you to call him back?
20:32 [-Google-]: yep
20:32 [-Google-]: in in-game chat
20:32 [-Google-]: but he suggest to find some modders also
20:32 [-Google-]: *it's better
20:33 -Bakari-: Ok. You want me to check [Hard] diff only, right? 
20:33 [-Google-]: yep :3
20:34 -Bakari-: I'll try to do it when I'll finish with this one
20:34 [-Google-]: I think I can give you kd btw bcz since you modded I have remapped twice
20:34 [-Google-]: thx in advance~
20:41 -Bakari-: ok, let's see
20:41 [-Google-]: xD
20:42 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/239887 Snow* - Chain (TV Size) [Shigofumi]]
20:42 [-Google-]: ready now :3
20:44 -Bakari-: 00:13:787 (5,6) - these sliders sound quite awkward for me. Try to finish first slider at 00:14:349 - and start second at 00:14:537 - 
20:44 -Bakari-: 00:13:787 (5,6) - these sliders sound quite awkward for me. Try to finish first slider at 00:14:349 - and start second at 00:14:537 - 
20:44 [-Google-]: get it
20:46 -Bakari-: here it is! 00:28:787 (5,1) - I was talking about overlaps like this one
20:46 [-Google-]: note at the slider top?
20:48 -Bakari-: yea, try to avoid it. 
20:49 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/2Tj4J.jpg
20:49 [-Google-]: well I thought that was common X.x
20:49 -Bakari-: Common doesn't means good, it looks quite messy, imo. 
20:51 -Bakari-: 00:24:849 - place here a circle to map that minor beat. It will make your rhythm more consistent.
20:51 [-Google-]: well I think there is fewer stacks now
20:51 [-Google-]: k
20:53 [-Google-]: Can I ask for a overall imo now o.O
20:53 -Bakari-: 00:35:349 (1,2,3) - you don't use 1/8 beats often, do you? try to replace it with 1/8 slider to make dif more consistent and playable
20:53 -Bakari-: 00:35:349 (1,2,3) - you don't use 1/8 beats often, do you? try to replace it with 1/8 slider to make dif more consistent and playable
20:53 -Bakari-: Well, diff isnot bad. But it can be improved.
20:54 -Bakari-: for example, http://puu.sh/2Tjcs.jpg this pattern  (00:37:787 (4,5,6,7) - ) will stress players.
20:54 [-Google-]: I agree xP
20:54 -Bakari-: or jumps like 00:41:349 (2) - this one in calm part aren't really playable.
20:55 [-Google-]: so you think this is a totally silnce map that should deal with calm?
20:55 [-Google-]: slow song
20:55 -Bakari-: Well.. It's still a [Hard] diff and WHOAOMGZRAZY jumps isn't a good idea here
20:57 -Bakari-: try to keep distance snap of jumps under x2.5
20:57 -Bakari-: by the way, 00:53:349 (4,5,6) - replace this triplet with 1/8 slider because you did it wih previous triplet.
20:57 [-Google-]: right :3
20:58 [-Google-]: In truth the reason that I insist on choosing Shigofumi (not Hard) as a diff name is that I want to avoid hard/insane diff name quesiton
20:58 [-Google-]: In truth the reason that I insist on choosing Shigofumi (not Hard) as a diff name is that I want to avoid hard/insane diff name quesiton
20:58 -Bakari-: I think you should consider using AR8 here
20:58 -Bakari-: because..well.. because it will help you to avoid some hardly readable jumps :P
20:59 -Bakari-: 01:17:349 (4,5,6) - i guess you already know, that you should replace them with slider. 
20:59 [-Google-]: yep
20:59 -Bakari-: I'd swap new combos between 01:20:537 (4,1) - to follow vocals.
20:59 [-Google-]: all the 1/8 must stay consisence :d
20:59 [-Google-]: :P
21:00 -Bakari-: And I guess that's it for now. 
21:01 [-Google-]: need an 2 minute offline D: wait for me sorry

1. Some rhythm mistakes/minor improvements
2. Playability of the [Hard] diff
3. Some combo improvements
4. Difficulity settings and overall opinion.

-Bakari- wrote:

IRC log

20:23 [-Google-]: Hi~
20:23 -Bakari-: hi
20:23 [-Google-]: If you are willing to,would you like to recheck my map?
20:23 [-Google-]: it's bubbled now
20:24 [-Google-]: opps 
20:24 [-Google-]: popped-bubble now :3
20:24 -Bakari-: Uh.. I can't repair your bubble and my mod will be useless for you because I've already mentioned everything that should be changed.
20:24 -Bakari-: Uh.. I can't repair your bubble and my mod will be useless for you because I've already mentioned everything that should be changed.
20:25 [-Google-]: will I know you can;t fix my bubble xD
20:25 [-Google-]: you said the Hard diff of mine seems messy
20:25 [-Google-]: so I just wonder if it is still messy now
20:26 [-Google-]: just this :D
20:26 [-Google-]: if so I want to know where is the place
20:27 -Bakari-: If your beatmap was bubbled - than this diff was rankable. But if you want me to check [Hard] again, I can do it
20:27 [-Google-]: since the BAT poped my map didn;t tell me so and told me to find some experienced modders xD
20:27 -Bakari-: I bet it was Shiro
20:27 [-Google-]: nope xD
20:28 [-Google-]: Shiro didn;t even give me bubble xD
20:28 [-Google-]: thx a lot if you can check my Hard diff :D
20:29 -Bakari-: Leave your map here, and I'll try to check it as soon as possible
20:29 [-Google-]: I wanted to find Shiro indeed but I think it;s not good to find another BAT while you map is poped
20:29 [-Google-]: sorry for my talktive X.x
20:29 *[-Google-] is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/238379 Snow* - Chain (TV Size)]
20:31 -Bakari-: By the way, did Strawberry told you to call him back?
20:32 [-Google-]: yep
20:32 [-Google-]: in in-game chat
20:32 [-Google-]: but he suggest to find some modders also
20:32 [-Google-]: *it's better
20:33 -Bakari-: Ok. You want me to check [Hard] diff only, right? 
20:33 [-Google-]: yep :3
20:34 -Bakari-: I'll try to do it when I'll finish with this one
20:34 [-Google-]: I think I can give you kd btw bcz since you modded I have remapped twice
20:34 [-Google-]: thx in advance~
20:41 -Bakari-: ok, let's see
20:41 [-Google-]: xD
20:42 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/239887 Snow* - Chain (TV Size) [Shigofumi]]
20:42 [-Google-]: ready now :3
20:44 -Bakari-: 00:13:787 (5,6) - these sliders sound quite awkward for me. Try to finish first slider at 00:14:349 - and start second at 00:14:537 - 
20:44 -Bakari-: 00:13:787 (5,6) - these sliders sound quite awkward for me. Try to finish first slider at 00:14:349 - and start second at 00:14:537 - 
20:44 [-Google-]: get it
20:46 -Bakari-: here it is! 00:28:787 (5,1) - I was talking about overlaps like this one
20:46 [-Google-]: note at the slider top?
20:48 -Bakari-: yea, try to avoid it. 
20:49 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/2Tj4J.jpg
20:49 [-Google-]: well I thought that was common X.x
20:49 -Bakari-: Common doesn't means good, it looks quite messy, imo. 
20:51 -Bakari-: 00:24:849 - place here a circle to map that minor beat. It will make your rhythm more consistent.
20:51 [-Google-]: well I think there is fewer stacks now
20:51 [-Google-]: k
20:53 [-Google-]: Can I ask for a overall imo now o.O
20:53 -Bakari-: 00:35:349 (1,2,3) - you don't use 1/8 beats often, do you? try to replace it with 1/8 slider to make dif more consistent and playable
20:53 -Bakari-: 00:35:349 (1,2,3) - you don't use 1/8 beats often, do you? try to replace it with 1/8 slider to make dif more consistent and playable
20:53 -Bakari-: Well, diff isnot bad. But it can be improved.
20:54 -Bakari-: for example, http://puu.sh/2Tjcs.jpg this pattern  (00:37:787 (4,5,6,7) - ) will stress players.
20:54 [-Google-]: I agree xP
20:54 -Bakari-: or jumps like 00:41:349 (2) - this one in calm part aren't really playable.
20:55 [-Google-]: so you think this is a totally silnce map that should deal with calm?
20:55 [-Google-]: slow song
20:55 -Bakari-: Well.. It's still a [Hard] diff and WHOAOMGZRAZY jumps isn't a good idea here
20:57 -Bakari-: try to keep distance snap of jumps under x2.5
20:57 -Bakari-: by the way, 00:53:349 (4,5,6) - replace this triplet with 1/8 slider because you did it wih previous triplet.
20:57 [-Google-]: right :3
20:58 [-Google-]: In truth the reason that I insist on choosing Shigofumi (not Hard) as a diff name is that I want to avoid hard/insane diff name quesiton
20:58 [-Google-]: In truth the reason that I insist on choosing Shigofumi (not Hard) as a diff name is that I want to avoid hard/insane diff name quesiton
20:58 -Bakari-: I think you should consider using AR8 here
20:58 -Bakari-: because..well.. because it will help you to avoid some hardly readable jumps :P
20:59 -Bakari-: 01:17:349 (4,5,6) - i guess you already know, that you should replace them with slider. 
20:59 [-Google-]: yep
20:59 -Bakari-: I'd swap new combos between 01:20:537 (4,1) - to follow vocals.
20:59 [-Google-]: all the 1/8 must stay consisence :d
20:59 [-Google-]: :P
21:00 -Bakari-: And I guess that's it for now. 
21:01 [-Google-]: need an 2 minute offline D: wait for me sorry

Nothing really special, we've fixed a few things:

1. Some rhythm mistakes/minor improvements
2. Playability of the [Hard] diff
3. Some combo improvements
4. Difficulity settings and overall opinion.

Good luck!

• Things that keep

1. 1/8 beat notes
2. AR since two BAT have checked it out

SPOILER

1. Offset need to be decreased again so offset -5 (282) Checked by HeatKai and me.

1. 00:10:787 (3) - You forgot whistle at this slider start.
2. 00:15:240 (1) - This slider should start at 00:15:240 -. Use 1/16 beat snap divisor to place this.
3. 00:21:287 (1) - I strongly suggest that you move this circle to 00:21:193 - since you constantly follow the vocal at previous combo. Use 1/8 beat snap divisor to move this circle. And since because 1/8 note will be hard to catch, i strongly suggest you follow this step : delete 00:20:724 (5) - 00:21:287 (1) - 00:21:474 (2) - . Then add a circle at 00:20:719 -, then add a slider at 00:20:907 - and make it end at 00:21:188 -. After that, gives a repeat on the the new slider. Don't forget to adjust the position and new combo after this.
4. 00:35:157 (3) - Tbh, this is looks bad, can you move away this circle so it will not partially stacked with 00:34:594 (2) - ?
5. 00:58:787 (6) - I prefer not to stack this since it doesn't play well and can really break the flow.

1. 01:06:283 - Add circle here
2. 01:18:095 - ^

1. 00:28:412 (1) - You forgot a whistle at this slider end.

1. 00:30:287 (1) - You can add a finish here at the slider start to cover the cymbal sounds from the music.
2. 00:36:287 (1) - ^
3. 00:37:787 (2) - Remove the finish sound from this slider start. Not consistant with previous combo.
4. 00:55:412 (2) - Err, Incorrrect clap placement. This clap should be at 00:54:287 (1) - end.
5. 00:55:787 (3) - Add a clap here too to make it consistant with previous suggestion.
6. 00:58:037 (2) - Continue your clap rhythm at this slider start too.
7. 01:13:037 (5) - You also forget a clap a this slider start.

Miya wrote:

Edit : The timing really messed up. Need someone to check it first.
My timing :

SPOILER

General

1. Offset need to be decreased again so offset -5 (282) Checked by HeatKai and me.

Hard

1. 00:10:787 (3) - You forgot whistle at this slider start.Fixed
2. 00:15:240 (1) - This slider should start at 00:15:240 -. Use 1/16 beat snap divisor to place this.
3. 00:21:287 (1) - I strongly suggest that you move this circle to 00:21:193 - since you constantly follow the vocal at previous combo. Use 1/8 beat snap divisor to move this circle. And since because 1/8 note will be hard to catch, i strongly suggest you follow this step : delete 00:20:724 (5) - 00:21:287 (1) - 00:21:474 (2) - . Then add a circle at 00:20:719 -, then add a slider at 00:20:907 - and make it end at 00:21:188 -. After that, gives a repeat on the the new slider. Don't forget to adjust the position and new combo after this.
4. 00:35:157 (3) - Tbh, this is looks bad, can you move away this circle so it will not partially stacked with 00:34:594 (2) - ?Fixed
5. 00:58:787 (6) - I prefer not to stack this since it doesn't play well and can really break the flow.Fixed……I think

Muzu credit to HeatKai

1. 01:06:283 - Add circle here
2. 01:18:095 - ^

Normal

1. 00:28:412 (1) - You forgot a whistle at this slider end.
   Fixed

Easy

1. 00:30:287 (1) - You can add a finish here at the slider start to cover the cymbal sounds from the music.
2. 00:36:287 (1) - ^
3. 00:37:787 (2) - Remove the finish sound from this slider start. Not consistant with previous combo.
4. 00:55:412 (2) - Err, Incorrrect clap placement. This clap should be at 00:54:287 (1) - end.
5. 00:55:787 (3) - Add a clap here too to make it consistant with previous suggestion.
6. 00:58:037 (2) - Continue your clap rhythm at this slider start too.
7. 01:13:037 (5) - You also forget a clap a this slider start.
   Fixed all

Don't forget to call me back once you've done changing it

Niva wrote:

HeatKai/Miya asked me to check the timing and here's what I got from my BPM analyzer:



More or less what I got is from 00:30:287 (offset 30287) the BPM is fixed in 80, then 01:07:458 (offset 67458) the BPM went down to 78 and then it resets to 80 in 01:09:295 (offset 69295)...

The opening's timing (where the drums haven't come in) is quite hard to time orz, I'll see what I can get with it :3 discussed with Miya and the mapper in-game, Miya will post it perhaps xD

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EDIT : Here's a changelog, still not confident with this though (except the 78BPM I mentioned above: )

SPOILER

14:11 [-Google-]: thx for looking through ><
14:11 Niva: oh hi Google
14:11 Niva: I'm still really confused with the beginning ._.
14:11 [-Google-]: hi…… 
14:11 Niva: try this btw http://puu.sh/2Wsh5.png
14:11 Niva: but 00:15:332 (1) - add new timing section to reset metronome
14:12 Niva: this isn't correct yet I'm sure but this is better already orz...
14:12 [-Google-]: I was confused with it too……but I thought I have overcome it D:
14:12 Niva: ah :D
14:13 [-Google-]: too bad DDD: I used to think of it will be ranked soon QxQ
14:13 Niva: timing orz...
14:16 [-Google-]: andway thx sooo much to figure it out xD
14:18 Niva: okay, no problem~
14:30 Niva: the vocals
14:30 Niva: and the instrument
14:30 Niva: on the opening
14:30 Niva: doesn't land synchronically orz
14:31 [-Google-]: Orz
14:31 [-Google-]: yep
14:31 Niva: yep...
14:31 [-Google-]: hmmm…… I thought know it 
14:31 [-Google-]: since I found that difficult to follow the vocal 
14:31 [-Google-]: at the  beginning
14:32 Niva: err for example this 00:15:255 (1) - 
14:32 Niva: the offset shifts here when no instrument
14:32 Niva: then it backs to normal offset when there's vocal 00:16:025 (2) - 
14:33 [-Google-]: shift when no vocal?
14:33 Niva: ah, yes, shift when no vocal
14:33 Niva: sorry2 :D
14:34 [-Google-]: well

SPOILER

1. make sure all diffs having the same un-inherited sections.

1. 01:09:277 (1,2) - broken timing?
2. 01:19:412 (2,3,1) - higher the spacing? around 1.6 would be a good choice.
3. 01:12:474 (3) - starting since blue-tick here is kind of breaking a proper rhythm you kept during 01:09:287 (1) by the ticks. consider use note at 01:12:662 only.
4. 01:22:412 (3) - cancel the drum?
5. 00:33:851 (4) - slider over heavy beat is always bad for my taste.
6. 00:34:601 (2) - ^ mostly the same.
7. 00:52:226 (8,9) - put them on a straight form? or curve more.
8. multiple unsnapped notes.

1. 01:26:162 (282,283,284,285,286) - timing is quite dodgy here.

1. 00:53:919 (22) - remove?
2. 01:01:044 (34) - move to 01:00:856
3. 01:01:419 - add don
4. 01:14:912 (12) - remove

1. 00:17:572 (3) - slider's end should snap to 00:18:294. you should manually change the slider's length to 93.88816700955164 in osu file with notepad.

1. 00:07:046 (1) - missing new combo, I think that's on purpose right?
2. 01:16:037 (2) - might be confusing