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The Mafia Restoration Project - GAME OVER (Town Win)

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Tsukasa
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Tsukasa

NoHitter wrote:

We have to unvote those.
He's essentially claiming cop.
There's a chance he's lying, but I would rather not lynch a possible PR.

Unvote

@those: So you investigated fartownik last night?

Vote: Raging Bull
This really gave me super scum vibes.
How convenient is it that NH said that he was claiming cop?
A town who doesn't know if those is a cop would seriously want some hard evidence if those was really cop.
Esp. That Those was never directly claiming cop. As far as I know... A town would go "What do you mean, those?"
But no... He wrote those of as cop without really something in it.
He was setting up those to be a fake cop and making him live.

Cut this down to the essentials

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?
I'm guessing if those wasn't lynched in about 2 hours or something... NH would have said "There could be 2 cops."
Meaning he'd want those to be innocent until the end of the day.

Add the fact that those was a newbie (No offense bro), He wouldn't probably come up with that plan.
There's some pro there coaching him on what to do.
Plus scum has daychat (dkun says so)

NoHitter wrote:

I think fartownik is town. Call it WIFOM, but Ockam's Razor says that those would not make an Inno claim on a scumbuddy when he knows he's going to get outed. That's why I'm inclined to think that fartownik is town based on that.
This WIFOM makes me think as well.

Is fart really a town? Is those setting fart to be innocent?
This actually lessens my suspicion on fart but not enough to call him town
NoHitter
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fartownik:
Your case on Kanye does kind of make sense, but the fact that Kanye was fourth on the those wagon bothers me. Usually scum don't bus their teammates until its really hopeless for them. At L-3, there was still a chance to turn the vote around, but he voted anyway.

Tsukasa wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

We have to unvote those.
He's essentially claiming cop.
There's a chance he's lying, but I would rather not lynch a possible PR.

Unvote

@those: So you investigated fartownik last night?

Vote: Raging Bull
This really gave me super scum vibes.
How convenient is it that NH said that he was claiming cop?
A town who doesn't know if those is a cop would seriously want some hard evidence if those was really cop.
Esp. That Those was never directly claiming cop. As far as I know... A town would go "What do you mean, those?"
But no... He wrote those of as cop without really something in it.
He was setting up those to be a fake cop and making him live.

Cut this down to the essentials
What do you mean? those's post saying that he "guaranteed that fartownik was town" basically made it kind of obvious that he was claiming cop.

Tsukasa wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?
I'm guessing if those wasn't lynched in about 2 hours or something... NH would have said "There could be 2 cops."
Meaning he'd want those to be innocent until the end of the day.

Add the fact that those was a newbie (No offense bro), He wouldn't probably come up with that plan.
There's some pro there coaching him on what to do.
Plus scum has daychat (dkun says so)
I really don't see the point in this statement except for scumpainting.
fartownik
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fartownik
Mod: Prod Kanye, Sync, Nyquill, Meatsick. Damn it.

It's really annoying to have such discussion when only half of the players are active in it.
Kanye West
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I gave my reasons why i didn't vote BRBP, i really thought hika was scum and i had no idea lybydose was cop. and what questions did i not answer? also how can you possibly arrive to the conclusion that someone is a cop just judging from "herp derp night pls"? 3deep5me

and I still stand by the fact that sync was a better potential lynch than raging bull. at least RB was trying to contribute, meanwhile sync wasn't doing shit and was off-meta. plus now we know that those was scum and voted sync right before day end, knowing his vote wouldn't change a RB lynch. imo if he doesn't say anything and/or get replaced, he's probably the best lynch.

also don't count out meatstick for scum. it's possible he knew those was a goner and instigated the vote to look safer.
fartownik
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fartownik

Kanye West wrote:

I gave my reasons why i didn't vote BRBP, i really thought hika was scum and i had no idea lybydose was cop. and what questions did i not answer? also how can you possibly arrive to the conclusion that someone is a cop just judging from "herp derp night pls"? 3deep5me
What bothered me was you remaining silent during BRBP wagon. Your reasons are fair, but I thought scum should've at least comment the situation while it lasted. How I judge a cop after "herp derp night pls"? If I was mafia and a townie would say something like this, while I have no suspects as PR to nightkill, I'd think Hika is a cop. Hika died so I know I'm right. Also how can you judge scum by this? I thought you were actually joking about it, not being serious.

"What questions did i not answer?"

Tsukasa wrote:

And why lyby over me?

I've been saying those - fart as well.

Why lyby in particular?
Page 16, D2.
Meatstick_old
Meatstick_old
I've said all i feel i need to say

the game's over if we lynch scum tonight and the doctor remains anonymous.

And my personal opinion is that fartownik is scum #2. #3 is a gut feeling between tsukasa or nyquill.
fartownik
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fartownik

Meatstick wrote:

I've said all i feel i need to say

the game's over if we lynch scum tonight and the doctor remains anonymous.

And my personal opinion is that fartownik is scum #2. #3 is a gut feeling between tsukasa or nyquill.
Okay then, explain further your point of view. No one is gonna follow you if you simply say "vote this guy", especially when people think differently.
fartownik
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fartownik
Okay, after some thinking I decide my vote. 3 severe mafia suspects right now: NoHitter, Meatstick and Kanye West. Sync is out of my suspicions from now, I'm not gonna vote someone that has posted only once in the entire game and should've been prodded back in day 2. Tsukasa and Lincolm are town. JInxyjem still counting as the potential scum, but I'm gonna focus on the alarmable suspects. Nyquill is not active enough to judge anything else than a 'more like a townie'. The day can't pass without a try to kill mafia because we won't judge anything by the nightkill either.

Vote: NoHitter
I can confirm Tsukasa's suspicions. If I'm not alone with doubts in someone then I should vote him. A discussion would be nice anyways.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
NH --> Kanye --> Sync --> Meat/Nyq
NoHitter
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NoHitter
I replied to your case against me Tsukasa.
Can you explain why you're still suspicious?
Meatstick_old
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i don't even care about this game or osu anymore, holy fucking shit promote all mats to bat?


vote: nohitter
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa

NoHitter wrote:

I replied to your case against me Tsukasa.
Can you explain why you're still suspicious?
With that weak excuse?
NoHitter
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Claim: Cop
I have no choice but to claim since I'm on the lynching block and there's only one day left.
I crumbed my results.

N1: Investigated Sakura got Town result.

NoHitter wrote:

Well let's review yesterday. My reads from yesterday made me think that Sakura was scum for that bandwagon vote on brbp with a "you're getting more suspicious now" reason.
I have to agree withTsukasa here; her being NK'd doesn't seem to make sense unless it was scum trying to kill off possible power roles.
Noting other people on the brbp bandwagon yesterday: Only three people explained their votes.
Sakura INNO

N2: I investigated those and got Mafia result. Partly the reason why I accepted those's claim was because I could verify him anyway which is what I did.
I couldn't crumb anything D2 because the day started and ended while I was asleep.

N3: Investigated Lincolm got Town result. This was why I pointed out Lincolm was town in my earlier read.

NoHitter wrote:

Lincolm: I'm not one to rely on gut normally, but yeah... gut reading.
Lincolm ino -> inno


With all of my results and reads, I think that there scum is most likely among Sync or JInxyjem. (or they could be both scum)
Who I think is scum from top to bottom:
Sync = JInxyjem
Nyquill (since those did vote him D1) = Meatstick (started d2 bw on those) = Kanye (town read, but kind of doubting due to farto's case)
fartownik
Tsukasa
Lincolm (result)

Vote: Sync
fartownik
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Unvote
Vote: Sync
I believe you only because of those "INNO" marks. Rest could've been easily made up (the marks could've been made up too, but I doubt they are). Second time in this game a bandwagoner claims cop. If he flips mafia then I fucking suck at this.
Lincolm
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Lincolm
Sorry, I need to open my old English book again. :roll:

Vote : Sync...

Yeah, coincidence sometimes happen.

By PoE, Sync and Nyquill... I hope I'm right... Other side, WIFOM for mafias for a day...
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Ah god not another cop claim...

And if people are gonna breadcrumb. At least make it obvious enough to be a breadcrumb, Instead of doing it like that.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Vote:Sync

Fine... I'll give you 1 more day.
fartownik
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fartownik
Unvote
I changed my mind. Explanation in a moment.
fartownik
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Vote: NoHitter

Too much notices bump in my mind to let this happen again.
The breadcrumb could've been set up by NoHitter from the beginning of the game. He could easily not use it whether it's convenient for him.
For the time being, we had no clues and no idea that the 2nd cop exists. We accepted the fact that we play in the 2nd scenario - with 1 cop and 1 doctor. We had no results and no advantages from having him. Why suddenly risk a potential scum go away with this for a chance of 2nd cop? If we lynch NoHitter and he turns cop, we'll just come back to the scenario we used to be in.

Also the 2nd NoHitter's breadcrumb - if it was real he'd do it properly, not halfassly. Comparing to the previous breadcrumb it's been done recklessly, it's not even a finished INNO acronym and he doesn't capitalize first letters as he used to. If he was serious about it, he'd try to get it done correctly.
fartownik
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Ah, I forgot to add. This is important. If NoHitter and those are both mafia, then the tactic of claiming cop came directly from NoHitter. I think it was meant to be done by NoHitter in the first place, but those's position got dangerous and they changed their mind.

Sorry for triplepost.
NoHitter
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Except I could investigate someone over the night.
You're suggesting to lynch the only other town information role.

Tsukasa wrote:

And if people are gonna breadcrumb. At least make it obvious enough to be a breadcrumb, Instead of doing it like that.

fartownik wrote:

Also the 2nd NoHitter's breadcrumb - if it was real he'd do it properly, not halfassly. Comparing to the previous breadcrumb it's been done recklessly, it's not even a finished INNO acronym and he doesn't capitalize first letters as he used to. If he was serious about it, he'd try to get it done correctly.
That's not how you breadcrumb. If you breadcrumb too obviously, you run the risk of scum catching you.
fartownik
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NoHitter wrote:

Except I could investigate someone over the night.
You're suggesting to lynch the only other town information role. - A POTENTIAL one. Not confirmed one.

Tsukasa wrote:

And if people are gonna breadcrumb. At least make it obvious enough to be a breadcrumb, Instead of doing it like that.

fartownik wrote:

Also the 2nd NoHitter's breadcrumb - if it was real he'd do it properly, not halfassly. Comparing to the previous breadcrumb it's been done recklessly, it's not even a finished INNO acronym and he doesn't capitalize first letters as he used to. If he was serious about it, he'd try to get it done correctly.
That's not how you breadcrumb. If you breadcrumb too obviously, you run the risk of scum catching you.
Yes, but your first breadcrumb was completely different from the second one. You can barely call the 2nd one a breadcrumb.
NoHitter
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If you read how I normally write my sentences, you'll notice that that I worded that second crumb very oddly compared to how I normally write.

"I'm not one"
fartownik
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fartownik
Alright damn, whatever. Let's end this.

Unvote
Vote: Sync

I wouldn't really vote Sync either becuase it's your idea, but whatever.
Also doing it because I've noticed this post:

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?
Lincolm is town.
Tsukasa is town.
fartownik is town.
Kanye West is town.
Meatstick is town.
From before the bandwagon on you starts. The way you put Lincolm in the first place makes me a little more calm.
Lincolm
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Lincolm
Yah, Fartownik is absolutely town. I will extremely surprised if Fartownik is scum...
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Because I don't believe in using the 1st letters of sentences.
fartownik
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fartownik
Shouldn't the day end already or sth.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Only 4 votes. 5 Needed.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Well.. Considering I counted that correctly
fartownik
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fartownik

Tsukasa wrote:

Well.. Considering I counted that correctly
But the deadline was meant to be 96 hours (4 days) which already passed. The most voted person should've been lynched and the day should've ended.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Well while no one is going to hammer today...

Let's talk about who's most likely to get NK'd

If NH is really a cop then He's the most likely NK.
But now that I have introduced this, Doc would probably protect NH.
But now that doc would protect NH, Scum would probably choose another, correct?

Now there's a whole set of WIFOM.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
NH: If you are REALLY a cop, Investigate one of the following: Nyquill, Kanye, Jinx
fartownik
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fartownik
The WIFOM was there already without your post. Also I agree with above, check one of those 3. Also if NH isn't cop then again, mafia has a huge fucking advantage as he can simply lie and we vote another townie. But well, you decided already.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Yeah it was BUT saying it would make the WIFOM way more clear for scum. (But it may be bad for our doc though)

As for NH's results... I'll see what he says tomorrow

@MOD: Is the cop a role cop or just an alignment cop?
dkun
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alignment cop

also day end, sorry for the delay, been busy with irl issues
i'll post after class (about 3h after this post)
fartownik
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:(
Lincolm
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Lincolm
@MOD : DKun need to be prodded. :(
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Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Well... I think our mod dkun forgot about this game... :(
dkun
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I didn't forget about it. Okay, I did. I'm sorry. I'm going through some irl issues. (My girlfriend broke up with me, for starters)

It's been a long shipride for all of you. Accusations have been thrown; many innocents have been slain. Everyone is curious to what will the end be. Some have been oddly quiet, seeing as this might be the end, others are trying to survive.

After this long day (my apologies on this matter again!), majority has decided to lynch Sync. He's been a quiet one all game, and decided to just walk the plank himself. Sad story, eh?

It is now night. Sync is now dead.

Sync - D4 - Nurse - Hopped overboard

Everyone that has asked to be prodded has been prodded. Night will end in 24 hours.
dkun
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It comes down to this. It's been a long night.

Everyone comes out to the deck to find NoHitter missing. You all search the ship high and low, but to no avail. He's nowhere to be found.

NoHitter - N4 - Chief Officer - ???

It is now D5. Day will end in 96 hours. (Don't forget, town is currently MYLO)
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