Tsukasa wrote:

Bull: He's voting kanye. (which is quite a bad vote IMO)

No it isn't.
Your vote in Fart is bad. Because you don't trust Those is cop, doesn't mean you should not trust his result also. Let's say Those is scum who claimed cop, do he will fake his result (point his partner as town) or honest about someone town (point town as town)? How do you know which one?

Raging Bull wrote:

No, in the quote, he votes me.

I said I will, but not now.

Tsukasa wrote:

Bull: I think he means that "he will vote for you". Or something. IDK. But He votes kanye

Fart: There's WIFOM there as well. Either he's cop who investigated you. Or He's scum not wanting to vote his buddy.
So basically If those is actually cop then both of you are town.
If one of you flips scum then it's VERY LIKELY that the other is scum as well

No need WIFOM. I don't want to tell the scenarios, so scums do not give town WIFOM also. I think NoHitter smart enough to realize this.

fartownik wrote:

Lincolm wrote:

OK, if Lybydose, Hika, and Kanye West aren't coming until midnight my time (I send the prod by PM) (+7 GMT), I will vote Raging Bull. Just hoping that Those not get lynched because bigger wagon.

Sorry for dopost.

Also a question to Lincolm - why vote Raging Bull if you can vote Lybydose?

Sorry, can't answer it until Kanye answer my question. If he knows the reason, he can make up his reason. Same reason to my first question why I did that.

Tsukasa wrote:

Ya guys up for a shot-in-the-dark gamble lynch?

Those and Fart's lynch is dumbest idea in this day. Those claimed cop, so no. Fart is his result, so no also.

I really want to sleep now.

Lincolm wrote:

No need WIFOM. I don't want to tell the scenarios, so scums do not give town WIFOM also. I think NoHitter smart enough to realize this.

Okay, this is stupid. Sorry. No WIFOM at all. If Those is cop, scum will kill him. No matter at N3 or N4. (maybe doc do not protect him at N2 and scum killed someone different, who knows? but safe play better)

Other side, if Those do not get killed, we have free cop around, or Those is scum, I believed the first because free cop is dangerous for scum, so scum will kill cop-Those. If Those do not get killed, Those is scum.

About why I dopost, I thought scums will make us WIFOM with not kill cop-Those, but it is stupid idea.

Oh I almost forgot

If fart flips town. Then those may be confirmed as cop.

P-edit: And we don't have any way to confirm those's claim. So this is probably a good lynch.

Tsukasa wrote:

Oh I almost forgot

If fart flips town. Then those may be confirmed as cop.

P-edit: And we don't have any way to confirm those's claim. So this is probably a good lynch.

Not necessarily. All the mafia know who the town are, so they can fake claim cop all day and just point out town to look "legitimate".

Claiming to know that there's a doctor is also a very "safe" claim because even if there isn't one (in the case of the first setup), no one can disprove it. Even if there is, it causes the real cop to either claim (giving an easy NK target), or stay quiet, resulting in no counterclaim.

Someone in Those wagon should unvote. Lyby, you should unvote arrrgggg....

Sorry, I'm sleepy.

Vote : Raging Bull

Sorry, Raging Bull.

Mod: vote recount request

i'm so confused

Tell us what are you confused.

I guess he's confused of who's voted for who. dkun hasn't really posted for some time already.

@Lincolm, about your doubts... I guess I know what you mean by saying it'd cause a lot of WIFOMs (if I'm thinking correctly).

Lincolm, I didn't see your question before, but I'll answer it now.

There are a few reasons why I didn't defend BRBP:

1. I had no proof that he wasn't mafia besides just gut feeling.
2. Even if I had given a (bad) argument to defending him, it probably would have turned into a "zomg BRBP + kanye scum team" discussion because it truly is insane to defend a claimed mafia without some solid proof to go off of.
3. In my mind, an anti-town townie is almost as bad as scum. Sure, it would have been nice to lynch scum D1, but why risk lynching a possible aux rather than getting rid of a possible mafia/vanilla townie that obviously isn't going to help us?

Only 3 more hours, so what is the plan?

the last official votecount was NINE PAGES AGO

i've lost track and i always miss one or two re-votes

i wanna know before i cast my own vote

OK, Lyby and Kanye probably town. (This is why I'm not going to vote Lyby)

Unofficial Vote Count :
Those : Lybydose, Hika
Raging Bull : NoHitter, Lincolm
Fartownik : Tsukasa
Lybydose : Fartownik

Those still leading wagon. Someone should save this cop (if he is not mafia).

Lyby why you don't unvote F U

Remind me again why people are voting for raging bull?

not sure. do you have a better plan?

Kanye West wrote:

Remind me again why people are voting for raging bull?

Random vote?

Also my vote was still on Lybydose. Was, because I began to lose sucpicions on him.

Unvote
Vote: Nyquill

@Kanye : Sorry, claimed cop need to be saved. If he don't get killed at later later night, then he is confirmed scum.

@Lyby : Lynch claimed cop isn't good plan. Have better plan?

Better plan is lynch someone who you think is scum and not claimed cop. Sorry about Raging Bull, I still have him in null.

well we could always hit a lurker, like Sync or hika

I have my own doubts about hika, because she immediately jumped suspicion on those (whom I still believe to be scum), despite being a new player and being unlikely to pick up on anything like that.

Kanye says Sync is out of his meta; does he normally post more often (more than once the entire game)?

@Lyby : I should ask this. Why you don't want to unvote claimed cop?

@Fartownik : What is your case in Nyquill?

Sorry for dopost.

Well seems as though I'm the next to be lynched once Lyby or Hika unvotes those or someone else votes for me.

Sorry, but I really want to save claimed cop right now. There is a chance he said the truth. Even scummiest player can flip as PR.

Well what's your reason for voting me?

Lincolm wrote:

@Fartownik : What is your case in Nyquill?

Sorry for dopost.

IMO he's more likely a scum than Raging Bull, and I've already lost most suspicions on Lyby.

Because I don't believe his claim for even a second.

For starters, he didn't really even claim cop, he just "kind of" claimed it. That's a bit weird. Second, he didn't claim before the extension. He posted an hour and a half before dkun extended the day, which was also before we even knew if dkun WOULD extend the day. I imagine a real cop at that point would have claimed instead of leaving it up to chance that the day may not be extended. You could say the same about mafia, but remember that they have daychat - they may have been busy discussing the action.

Nothing. Saving PR. Sorry about that.

fartownik wrote:

IMO he's more likely a scum than Raging Bull, and I've already lost most suspicions on Lyby.

Well, I like the reason. I know that you think he is more likely scum in your point of view.

Oh fuck me. I can't sleep because of this. Unvote

I really don't want to lynch PR, you know that. And now why we should lynch claimed PR, really.

Lybydose wrote:

Because I don't believe his claim for even a second.

For starters, he didn't really even claim cop, he just "kind of" claimed it. That's a bit weird. Second, he didn't claim before the extension. He posted an hour and a half before dkun extended the day, which was also before we even knew if dkun WOULD extend the day. I imagine a real cop at that point would have claimed instead of leaving it up to chance that the day may not be extended. You could say the same about mafia, but remember that they have daychat - they may have been busy discussing the action.

Now you persuade to keep vote in Those. Why not earlier... God damnit.

God so much WIFOM.

Lyby post does make sense...but I still don't wanna risk losing a potential PR.

Now either Lybydose is protecting scumbuddy (Raging Bull) by persuading us to vote those (pretty succesfully it seems) or those really is scum. I still believe it'd be safer if we pick to keep those alive for the night and if he doesn't die lynch him D3. The worst thing that could happen is more WIFOM and one dead townie along with a confirmed scum.

Lincolm wrote:

Nothing. Saving PR. Sorry about that.

This is respond for Raging Bull.

Refision my answer to Fartownik : Well, I like to know the reason, not the read. I know that you think he is more likely scum in your point of view.

@Raging Bull : Why you don't vote then? Now you make me want to make a case in you.

Whatever happen at D2... Whatever... Vote : Raging Bull

Sorry, I stick with my mind. Claimed PR should not get lynched this day. Going to sleep.

@Lincolm, I wanted to check Lybydose and Kanye reaction.

Unvote
Vote: Raging Bull

As much as I don't like it, there's no other way for me to solve this situation.

fartownik wrote:

Now either Lybydose is protecting scumbuddy (Raging Bull) by persuading us to vote those (pretty succesfully it seems) or those really is scum. I still believe it'd be safer if we pick to keep those alive for the night and if he doesn't die lynch him D3. The worst thing that could happen is more WIFOM and one dead townie along with a confirmed scum.

All I did was agree with Lyby. I still feel like Lyby can be scum and fully lead us to lynch the wrong person if needed. Although if those is lynched in D3 is mafia, then I would say lyby is 100% town. Of course don't quote me on that since I'm not that good at reading.

I also agree to keep those alive for the day, which is also why I didn't vote for those. I don't mind being lynch D2 if we can have those scan someone. Of course if those really just fake claimed then I would probably say farto is also mafia.

Raging Bull doesn't seem like a very good lynch. It's all just a result of bandwagoning on one vote in an attempt to prevent another person from getting lynched. There's no real reason here. I suggest we hit a lurker if we're not lynching those.

unvote
vote: sync

@Lybydose, now a question - why didn't you do this earlier but just now, when we decided to hit Raging Bull in the end?

Lol another last post before I go to sleep I think.


honestly I do not know why also. But it's also possible that you are taking advantage of this situation right now farto and do easy lynch on me. At this point I say if those is scum then farto is scum.

Shame that I'll be lynched. Game is fun if you participate haha. Time to sleep for sure.


Vote:Nyquill

fartownik wrote:

@Lybydose, now a question - why didn't you do this earlier but just now, when we decided to hit Raging Bull in the end?

because I wanted a those lynch. I still want a those lynch. It's obvious a those lynch is not going to happen.

Lybydose wrote:

Kanye says Sync is out of his meta; does he normally post more often (more than once the entire game)?

Sync is normally a very aggressive scum hunter, and even the one post he did make was kinda derpy

I think in a past game, Sync got lynched for lurking as scum D1 or D2 and this kind of follows the same pattern but I'm not really sure.

imo, Sync or Hika, and/or to a lesser extent Nyquill is a much better lynch than Raging Bull at this point.

vote: Sync in case I can't get back to the thread before the day ends.

Sync is strongly inactive overally in the forums right now, not only in the mafia. He should've been prodded long time ago. Also I doubt he would make such move for the second time.

Staying with Raging Bull.

Vote: Sync

Here's to saving Raging Bull; more thought process > no thought process.

Vote Tally:


People bickering left and right. Chaos ensuing on all hands of the ship. No one can agree on anything, accusations are so loose on everyone's lips.

After such a long day, you all decide on two definite suspects. They have equal support from everyone in being lynched, but alas, we have to pick the first majority vote.

At sundown, you stick out the plank on the side of the ship and blindfold Raging Bull to walk it. As he's placed on the plank, he screams "I'M REALLY JUST A SAILOR! Please, I have a wife and children, I don't want to die like this!". You all just look at him bewildered, but alas, he walks off the ship feeling betrayed by his own comrades.

Raging Bull - D2 - Sailor - Walked the plank!

It is now Night 2. Night will last for 24 hours. Please send me actions/questions/prods as you see fit.
Prodding Hika, Sync, and Nyquill

I would like to apologize for my decreased activity, I've been sick recently and it's been taking a toll on my time spent here.

After a gloomy night, you all gather around near the main mast of the ship.

You all notice that Lybydose is missing. You check his belongings and you find a gun without any ammo in it. You all believe he was the Chief Officer.

Lybydose - N2 - CO - Nowhere to be found

It is now Day 3. Day will last for 96 hours.

I hate all of you.

Vote: Those

I really hate all of you.

lynch those and watch him turn up scum
then lynch farto and watch him turn up the same
the remaining shitstain can be found through process of elimination

doctor should remain anonymous and just protect whoever they think will get NK'd, use your own judgement and do not roleclaim


this game's over

Goddamnit Lybydose why didn't you counterclaim him, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

vote those

Because Lyby didn't want to out his role.

Well apparently he still died... Oh well

Those

And obviously the doctor wasted his protect on those. (no offense doc)

Vote: those

But I'm no scum
And I really have no fucking clue who can be at the moment besides those. I give up, town lost.

Thats quite the no-brainer.

Vote: Those

if only he didn't take the damn vote off of those, he would have been lynched

BUT NOoooOOOO you guys wanted to lynch another sailor

If it's not fart then It's one of the lurkers.

those (6) - Meatstick, Hika, Kanye West, fartownik, Tsukasa, Nyquill

Impending Doom? Impending Doom, ahoy!

You all gather around those with the intent of killing him. He tries to blame Sync, but to no avail. Nyquill comes up to those and just chops his head off with the captain's old scimitar. Everyone looks at him in silence.

those is now dead.

those - D3 - Pirate Leader - Head chopped off

It is now Night 3. Night will be accelerated due to the fast ending of day. Night ends in 3 hours.

Everyone is nervous. No one knows what's going on. You've taken down one of the Pirates; tensions are high on-board.

You all emerge from the deck of the boat, taking count, you notice one is missing. After thorough inspection of the ship, you find Hika stuffed in a barrel below the main deck.

Hika has been killed.

Hika - N3 - Sailor - Stuffed in a barrel

It is now D4. Day will last for 96 hours.
There are 8 of you remaining. It takes 5 to hammer. Have fun!

Okay, here we go. Since I expect I'm gonna be voted, I will write up some theories/facts. I don't expect anyone to believe me, but I will say it anyways.

If I was scum, the mafia's tactic would be WAY less effective than if I wasn't one. If I'm scum then the mafia tactic was basically set up for 2 scums to die, which is self-destroying because one scum can't win the game by himself. They could've simply sacrifice those, as he already was the main suspect, without revealing the identity of the 2nd scum, still keeping their chances to overpower townies in next days.

Next. The mafia knew Lybydose was cop. It wasn't a lucky townie-shot or a dangerous-townie shot. Why I know that? Because I started to think the same way. After Lincolm's questioning him up and Lyby's answers I began to think he's cop. That's why I put my votes off him. I just didn't think anyone else is thinking the same way, especially not anyone else from mafia itself. But I knew Lincolm knew it too, so he's the only one I can suspect at the moment.

Next. Hika's kill was not a random kill too. It was a try to kill THE SECOND cop (or doctor, but I think it was 2nd cop juding by Hika's post's tone). Basically, the mafia secures themselves in case of a 2-cop scenario. Why I know that?

Hika wrote:

I was hoping for night. Darn.

POST HERE
Also Kanye's response to this is kind of odd.

Not going to vote anyone yet, it'd only cause more and more WIFOMs. Waiting for some discussion.

Meh, I think one of the people on the whole Raging Bull wagon was definitely scum. I mean come on you all were voting him for no reason whatsoever

Kanye West wrote:

Meh, I think one of the people on the whole Raging Bull wagon was definitely scum. I mean come on you all were voting him for no reason whatsoever

I've changed my vote from Lybydose, with the reason I wrote in previous post, to Raging Bull not to lynch a possible PR. Then I didn't change it because I felt a little bit of suspicions coming from Lydydose + Raging Bull relations. It was enough to pick Raging Bull instead of Sync as there was simply no reason to vote Sync.

If Those is scum, then Fartownik is town.

Lybydose could not claim because of the setup maybe there is 2 cop. His confident perhaps from his guilty result.
(I feel bad now protecting fake-claim scum damn...)

fartownik wrote:

But I knew Lincolm knew it too, so he's the only one I can suspect at the moment.

I never thought someone role. Don't tell anyone how do you know it. I don't want to know also. About Hika, I agree a lot. If you suspect me, you should use your vote.

Kanye West wrote:

Meh, I think one of the people on the whole Raging Bull wagon was definitely scum. I mean come on you all were voting him for no reason whatsoever

If you wanted to vote Sync in that time, I would vote him also. I could not lynch claimed cop in that time. Why you don't say the same things to BRBP's lynch? It is obviously no mafia will claim mafia also. They voted because his claim, which I think it was policy lynch.

Will take a look whole player again. Now I'm paranoid with NoHitter and Tsukasa.

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?

I voted RB because of his D1 actions wherein he wanted cop to investigate BRBP then voting him after that.

I think fartownik is town. Call it WIFOM, but Ockam's Razor says that those would not make an Inno claim on a scumbuddy when he knows he's going to get outed. That's why I'm inclined to think that fartownik is town based on that.

I think those in the those wagon in Day 2 are likely town. The D3 wagon IMO is easy for scum to get in since those was doomed. Although Meatstick leading the wagon on D3 gives me a town read as well.

Kind of wary of Nyquill for hammering and ending the day so early.

Lincolm is town.
Tsukasa is town.
fartownik is town.
Kanye West is town.
Meatstick is town.

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?

I voted RB because of his D1 actions wherein he wanted cop to investigate BRBP then voting him after that.

I think fartownik is town. Call it WIFOM, but Ockam's Razor says that those would not make an Inno claim on a scumbuddy when he knows he's going to get outed. That's why I'm inclined to think that fartownik is town based on that.

I think those in the those wagon in Day 2 are likely town. The D3 wagon IMO is easy for scum to get in since those was doomed. Although Meatstick leading the wagon on D3 gives me a town read as well.

Kind of wary of Nyquill for hammering and ending the day so early.

Lincolm is town.
Tsukasa is town.
fartownik is town.
Kanye West is town.
Meatstick is town.

Explain why you think Lincolm, Tsukasa, Kanye and Meatstick are town please.

Also I wouldn't vote Nyquill yet. In the D1, those actually votes him directly, without much reasoning. I highly doubt his tactics go that deep and I think it was a first try to bandwagon a townie. I'd focus on Sync instead. those's last post in D3, he votes Sync. Votes him a couple of minutes before end of the day, why not earlier? His vote basically means nothing because RB has the same amount of votes, but reaches it first so is lynched. This might've been a risky tactic, but quite effective one. Also as Kanye said before, Sync is usually aggressive, now I doubt he doesn't post much just because of the inactivity.

About my paranoid...

Tsukasa posted this post. I thought he wanted to save Those after lynch fartownik. Probably not...
NoHitter posted this post. If someone like Lybydose chimed in first, this fake-claim totally failure. Seems coincidence just happened...

fartownik wrote:

Also I wouldn't vote Nyquill yet. In the D1, those actually votes him directly, without much reasoning. I highly doubt his tactics go that deep and I think it was a first try to bandwagon a townie. I'd focus on Sync instead. those's last post in D3, he votes Sync. Votes him a couple of minutes before end of the day, why not earlier? His vote basically means nothing because RB has the same amount of votes, but reaches it first so is lynched. This might've been a risky tactic, but quite effective one. Also as Kanye said before, Sync is usually aggressive, now I doubt he doesn't post much just because of the inactivity.

Can't tell about Nyquill. Start of the day, bus can be done, can be a start of bandwagon also, but usually vote changed. Can't tell about Sync also. That isn't risky one if he knew it almost deadline and you didn't want to move your vote. For me, that vote to avoid RB's wagon.

Lincolm wrote:

About my paranoid...

Tsukasa posted this post. I thought he wanted to save Those after lynch fartownik. Probably not...
NoHitter posted this post. If someone like Lybydose chimed in first, this fake-claim totally failure. Seems coincidence just happened...

I thought the exact same thing, so maybe there's something in it.

Vote: NoHitter

Don't ask why yet.

But I will tell you this is guy

P-edit: *gut

No one's really gonna follow if you don't explain it.

I said don't ask yet :/

I'm still working things out. Plus a strong gut feeling

Oh...

Mod: Prod on JInxyjem please

I knew someone was missing...

Tsukasa wrote:

Oh...

Mod: Prod on JInxyjem please

I knew someone was missing...

Indeed, supporting prod.

Yeah give me some time to read this, homework and other stuff

and more stuff

I'm going to underline those when I mean those, the player because ugh

I agree with farto and NH that farto is probably not scum with those. If they were, it means those tried to fake cop AND fake result, then he'll obviously get killed too if farto was voted off and flipped scum, which was a tactic that Tsukasa was considering, though it was flawed.

I don't know if mafia hit lyby because they considered him a threat and got lucky, or figured out he was cop, but either way I don't think it really matters.

Lincolm wrote:

About my paranoid...

Tsukasa posted this post. I thought he wanted to save Those after lynch fartownik. Probably not...
NoHitter posted this post. If someone like Lybydose chimed in first, this fake-claim totally failure. Seems coincidence just happened...

Thanks for pointing these out, Tsukasa does seem to be a little suspicious in trying to get people to support a flawed tactic. One can argue it was too obvious to be a set-up since lyby broke it next post and was a mistake on Tsukasa's side, but WIFOM and shit idk

I don't really find anything in NH's post suspicious, just common response to a PR claimer.

Waiting on Tsukasa's "explanation", which hopefully doesn't go back to "gut"


Also where the honking hell is sync /slightlyhypocritical

those wrote:

Vote: Sync

Here's to saving Raging Bull; more thought process > no thought process.

those posted this at the end of D2. On one hand, this might prove that Sync, despite disappearing and being really off-meta, may be town.

However, those posted this 8 mins before dkun ended the day, and 18 mins before dkun's real call to end the day (24h after his previous post). If he had gone through the tally and knew that his vote won't change the RB lynch, he might have done it to make Sync look town if he got lynched himself (which he did on D3).

JInxyjem wrote:

However, those posted this 8 mins before dkun ended the day, and 18 mins before dkun's real call to end the day (24h after his previous post). If he had gone through the tally and knew that his vote won't change the RB lynch, he might have done it to make Sync look town if he got lynched himself (which he did on D3).

Already said this in my previous post. When I think about it now, we can't really know. If this situation didn't happen we'd be probably at the same point in the game, making the exact same decision about Sync so it doesn't really matter now. Unless Sync posts anything.

For now, Tsukasa seems like the main suspect, but ofc I'm waiting for NH's explanations too.

Tsukasa: Leading the wagon against those D2.
Kanye: Being in the those wagon D2.
Meatstick: Initiating the wagon on those D3.

Lincolm: I'm not one to rely on gut normally, but yeah... gut reading.

@mod: prod Sync again. He should've been replaced like 2 days ago already.

I'm gonna check all the remaining players and see their interactions with those. Back in some time.

K, back. After research I can confirm Tsukasa and Lincolm as town. Still a little unsure, but probably town too would be Sync (if Kanye is scum) and Nyquill.
Totally unsure about NoHitter and JInxyjem. Two suspects from me are now Meatstick and Kanye West.

@NoHitter, Initiating the wagon on those D3 by Meatstick has absolutely no meaning. Everyone would vote him anyways, it was an absolutely obvious vote. It even feels a bit contrary to me.

Meatstick is acting like a 'lost sheep' all the game. "Don't know what's this, don't know how this works etc." He seems too shy, but yet kinda active. Like Tsukasa would say it, "gut feeling".

Kanye West - there's a lot of arguments that can cause a vote from me on him. But there's also one that kinda negates them all, the one that NoHitter pointed out. The only explanation from me on it would be that he was simply playing until those's fakeclaim (which was planned back in the beginning of the D2). Arguments from me:

1. Quote from beginning of D2

Lybydose: "vote those"
Kanye West: "why"
Lybydose: "he didn't magically stop being scum overnight
so I voted him again"

Kanye (and the mafia) instantly suspects Lyby a cop. Mafia is looking especially for PRs, analyzing everyone under every possible angle. If he's mafia then he must've thought about it.
This was the point where mafia decided a nightkill.
2. Kanye watching BRBP bandwagoned. Not voting for him, not protecting him, basically WATCHING A MISLYNCH. Just as Lincolm said before. This was a scumslip.
3.

imo if those flips town i think lybydose will be more suspicious than farto"

, a wide thought, but an early prepare to take off cop?
After asked by Tsukasa why Lyby, he comes with a half-ass excuce: "because he pushes farto+those too much".
He doesn't answer next Tsukasa questions.
4. Also after this, the situation with Hika occurs.

Hika: "I was hoping for night. Darn.
Kanye: "why? because you're scum and want to kill another innocent townie at night? makes sense to me."
Hika: ";)"

Kanye suspects second cop. This decides the N3 nightkill.
5. Kanye is pushing Sync really much whole time. Especially suspcious at the end of D2, when almost bandwagoning him with those. Might be a WIFOM, but it's more possible than Sync being scum.

Please, discuss. We need to vote someone.

NoHitter wrote:

We have to unvote those.
He's essentially claiming cop.
There's a chance he's lying, but I would rather not lynch a possible PR.

Unvote

@those: So you investigated fartownik last night?

Vote: Raging Bull

This really gave me super scum vibes.
How convenient is it that NH said that he was claiming cop?
A town who doesn't know if those is a cop would seriously want some hard evidence if those was really cop.
Esp. That Those was never directly claiming cop. As far as I know... A town would go "What do you mean, those?"
But no... He wrote those of as cop without really something in it.
He was setting up those to be a fake cop and making him live.

Cut this down to the essentials

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?

I'm guessing if those wasn't lynched in about 2 hours or something... NH would have said "There could be 2 cops."
Meaning he'd want those to be innocent until the end of the day.

Add the fact that those was a newbie (No offense bro), He wouldn't probably come up with that plan.
There's some pro there coaching him on what to do.
Plus scum has daychat (dkun says so)

NoHitter wrote:

I think fartownik is town. Call it WIFOM, but Ockam's Razor says that those would not make an Inno claim on a scumbuddy when he knows he's going to get outed. That's why I'm inclined to think that fartownik is town based on that.

This WIFOM makes me think as well.

Is fart really a town? Is those setting fart to be innocent?
This actually lessens my suspicion on fart but not enough to call him town

fartownik:
Your case on Kanye does kind of make sense, but the fact that Kanye was fourth on the those wagon bothers me. Usually scum don't bus their teammates until its really hopeless for them. At L-3, there was still a chance to turn the vote around, but he voted anyway.

Tsukasa wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

We have to unvote those.
He's essentially claiming cop.
There's a chance he's lying, but I would rather not lynch a possible PR.

Unvote

@those: So you investigated fartownik last night?

Vote: Raging Bull

This really gave me super scum vibes.
How convenient is it that NH said that he was claiming cop?
A town who doesn't know if those is a cop would seriously want some hard evidence if those was really cop.
Esp. That Those was never directly claiming cop. As far as I know... A town would go "What do you mean, those?"
But no... He wrote those of as cop without really something in it.
He was setting up those to be a fake cop and making him live.

Cut this down to the essentials

What do you mean? those's post saying that he "guaranteed that fartownik was town" basically made it kind of obvious that he was claiming cop.

Tsukasa wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?

I'm guessing if those wasn't lynched in about 2 hours or something... NH would have said "There could be 2 cops."
Meaning he'd want those to be innocent until the end of the day.

Add the fact that those was a newbie (No offense bro), He wouldn't probably come up with that plan.
There's some pro there coaching him on what to do.
Plus scum has daychat (dkun says so)

I really don't see the point in this statement except for scumpainting.

Mod: Prod Kanye, Sync, Nyquill, Meatsick. Damn it.

It's really annoying to have such discussion when only half of the players are active in it.

I gave my reasons why i didn't vote BRBP, i really thought hika was scum and i had no idea lybydose was cop. and what questions did i not answer? also how can you possibly arrive to the conclusion that someone is a cop just judging from "herp derp night pls"? 3deep5me

and I still stand by the fact that sync was a better potential lynch than raging bull. at least RB was trying to contribute, meanwhile sync wasn't doing shit and was off-meta. plus now we know that those was scum and voted sync right before day end, knowing his vote wouldn't change a RB lynch. imo if he doesn't say anything and/or get replaced, he's probably the best lynch.

also don't count out meatstick for scum. it's possible he knew those was a goner and instigated the vote to look safer.

Kanye West wrote:

I gave my reasons why i didn't vote BRBP, i really thought hika was scum and i had no idea lybydose was cop. and what questions did i not answer? also how can you possibly arrive to the conclusion that someone is a cop just judging from "herp derp night pls"? 3deep5me

What bothered me was you remaining silent during BRBP wagon. Your reasons are fair, but I thought scum should've at least comment the situation while it lasted. How I judge a cop after "herp derp night pls"? If I was mafia and a townie would say something like this, while I have no suspects as PR to nightkill, I'd think Hika is a cop. Hika died so I know I'm right. Also how can you judge scum by this? I thought you were actually joking about it, not being serious.

"What questions did i not answer?"

Tsukasa wrote:

And why lyby over me?

I've been saying those - fart as well.

Why lyby in particular?

Page 16, D2.

I've said all i feel i need to say

the game's over if we lynch scum tonight and the doctor remains anonymous.

And my personal opinion is that fartownik is scum #2. #3 is a gut feeling between tsukasa or nyquill.

Meatstick wrote:

I've said all i feel i need to say

the game's over if we lynch scum tonight and the doctor remains anonymous.

And my personal opinion is that fartownik is scum #2. #3 is a gut feeling between tsukasa or nyquill.

Okay then, explain further your point of view. No one is gonna follow you if you simply say "vote this guy", especially when people think differently.

Okay, after some thinking I decide my vote. 3 severe mafia suspects right now: NoHitter, Meatstick and Kanye West. Sync is out of my suspicions from now, I'm not gonna vote someone that has posted only once in the entire game and should've been prodded back in day 2. Tsukasa and Lincolm are town. JInxyjem still counting as the potential scum, but I'm gonna focus on the alarmable suspects. Nyquill is not active enough to judge anything else than a 'more like a townie'. The day can't pass without a try to kill mafia because we won't judge anything by the nightkill either.

Vote: NoHitter
I can confirm Tsukasa's suspicions. If I'm not alone with doubts in someone then I should vote him. A discussion would be nice anyways.

NH --> Kanye --> Sync --> Meat/Nyq

I replied to your case against me Tsukasa.
Can you explain why you're still suspicious?

i don't even care about this game or osu anymore, holy fucking shit promote all mats to bat?


vote: nohitter

NoHitter wrote:

I replied to your case against me Tsukasa.
Can you explain why you're still suspicious?

With that weak excuse?

Claim: Cop
I have no choice but to claim since I'm on the lynching block and there's only one day left.
I crumbed my results.

N1: Investigated Sakura got Town result.

NoHitter wrote:

Well let's review yesterday. My reads from yesterday made me think that Sakura was scum for that bandwagon vote on brbp with a "you're getting more suspicious now" reason.
I have to agree withTsukasa here; her being NK'd doesn't seem to make sense unless it was scum trying to kill off possible power roles.
Noting other people on the brbp bandwagon yesterday: Only three people explained their votes.

Sakura INNO

N2: I investigated those and got Mafia result. Partly the reason why I accepted those's claim was because I could verify him anyway which is what I did.
I couldn't crumb anything D2 because the day started and ended while I was asleep.

N3: Investigated Lincolm got Town result. This was why I pointed out Lincolm was town in my earlier read.

NoHitter wrote:

Lincolm: I'm not one to rely on gut normally, but yeah... gut reading.

Lincolm ino -> inno


With all of my results and reads, I think that there scum is most likely among Sync or JInxyjem. (or they could be both scum)
Who I think is scum from top to bottom:
Sync = JInxyjem
Nyquill (since those did vote him D1) = Meatstick (started d2 bw on those) = Kanye (town read, but kind of doubting due to farto's case)
fartownik
Tsukasa
Lincolm (result)

Vote: Sync

Unvote
Vote: Sync
I believe you only because of those "INNO" marks. Rest could've been easily made up (the marks could've been made up too, but I doubt they are). Second time in this game a bandwagoner claims cop. If he flips mafia then I fucking suck at this.

Sorry, I need to open my old English book again.

Vote : Sync...

Yeah, coincidence sometimes happen.

By PoE, Sync and Nyquill... I hope I'm right... Other side, WIFOM for mafias for a day...

Ah god not another cop claim...

And if people are gonna breadcrumb. At least make it obvious enough to be a breadcrumb, Instead of doing it like that.

Vote:Sync

Fine... I'll give you 1 more day.

Unvote
I changed my mind. Explanation in a moment.

Vote: NoHitter

Too much notices bump in my mind to let this happen again.
The breadcrumb could've been set up by NoHitter from the beginning of the game. He could easily not use it whether it's convenient for him.
For the time being, we had no clues and no idea that the 2nd cop exists. We accepted the fact that we play in the 2nd scenario - with 1 cop and 1 doctor. We had no results and no advantages from having him. Why suddenly risk a potential scum go away with this for a chance of 2nd cop? If we lynch NoHitter and he turns cop, we'll just come back to the scenario we used to be in.

Also the 2nd NoHitter's breadcrumb - if it was real he'd do it properly, not halfassly. Comparing to the previous breadcrumb it's been done recklessly, it's not even a finished INNO acronym and he doesn't capitalize first letters as he used to. If he was serious about it, he'd try to get it done correctly.

Ah, I forgot to add. This is important. If NoHitter and those are both mafia, then the tactic of claiming cop came directly from NoHitter. I think it was meant to be done by NoHitter in the first place, but those's position got dangerous and they changed their mind.

Sorry for triplepost.

Except I could investigate someone over the night.
You're suggesting to lynch the only other town information role.

Tsukasa wrote:

And if people are gonna breadcrumb. At least make it obvious enough to be a breadcrumb, Instead of doing it like that.

fartownik wrote:

Also the 2nd NoHitter's breadcrumb - if it was real he'd do it properly, not halfassly. Comparing to the previous breadcrumb it's been done recklessly, it's not even a finished INNO acronym and he doesn't capitalize first letters as he used to. If he was serious about it, he'd try to get it done correctly.

That's not how you breadcrumb. If you breadcrumb too obviously, you run the risk of scum catching you.

NoHitter wrote:

Except I could investigate someone over the night.
You're suggesting to lynch the only other town information role. - A POTENTIAL one. Not confirmed one.

Tsukasa wrote:

And if people are gonna breadcrumb. At least make it obvious enough to be a breadcrumb, Instead of doing it like that.

fartownik wrote:

Also the 2nd NoHitter's breadcrumb - if it was real he'd do it properly, not halfassly. Comparing to the previous breadcrumb it's been done recklessly, it's not even a finished INNO acronym and he doesn't capitalize first letters as he used to. If he was serious about it, he'd try to get it done correctly.

That's not how you breadcrumb. If you breadcrumb too obviously, you run the risk of scum catching you.

Yes, but your first breadcrumb was completely different from the second one. You can barely call the 2nd one a breadcrumb.

If you read how I normally write my sentences, you'll notice that that I worded that second crumb very oddly compared to how I normally write.

"I'm not one"

Alright damn, whatever. Let's end this.

Unvote
Vote: Sync

I wouldn't really vote Sync either becuase it's your idea, but whatever.
Also doing it because I've noticed this post:

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?
Lincolm is town.
Tsukasa is town.
fartownik is town.
Kanye West is town.
Meatstick is town.

From before the bandwagon on you starts. The way you put Lincolm in the first place makes me a little more calm.

Yah, Fartownik is absolutely town. I will extremely surprised if Fartownik is scum...

Because I don't believe in using the 1st letters of sentences.

Shouldn't the day end already or sth.

Only 4 votes. 5 Needed.