If it's not fart then It's one of the lurkers.

those (6) - Meatstick, Hika, Kanye West, fartownik, Tsukasa, Nyquill

Impending Doom? Impending Doom, ahoy!

You all gather around those with the intent of killing him. He tries to blame Sync, but to no avail. Nyquill comes up to those and just chops his head off with the captain's old scimitar. Everyone looks at him in silence.

those is now dead.

those - D3 - Pirate Leader - Head chopped off

It is now Night 3. Night will be accelerated due to the fast ending of day. Night ends in 3 hours.

Everyone is nervous. No one knows what's going on. You've taken down one of the Pirates; tensions are high on-board.

You all emerge from the deck of the boat, taking count, you notice one is missing. After thorough inspection of the ship, you find Hika stuffed in a barrel below the main deck.

Hika has been killed.

Hika - N3 - Sailor - Stuffed in a barrel

It is now D4. Day will last for 96 hours.
There are 8 of you remaining. It takes 5 to hammer. Have fun!

Okay, here we go. Since I expect I'm gonna be voted, I will write up some theories/facts. I don't expect anyone to believe me, but I will say it anyways.

If I was scum, the mafia's tactic would be WAY less effective than if I wasn't one. If I'm scum then the mafia tactic was basically set up for 2 scums to die, which is self-destroying because one scum can't win the game by himself. They could've simply sacrifice those, as he already was the main suspect, without revealing the identity of the 2nd scum, still keeping their chances to overpower townies in next days.

Next. The mafia knew Lybydose was cop. It wasn't a lucky townie-shot or a dangerous-townie shot. Why I know that? Because I started to think the same way. After Lincolm's questioning him up and Lyby's answers I began to think he's cop. That's why I put my votes off him. I just didn't think anyone else is thinking the same way, especially not anyone else from mafia itself. But I knew Lincolm knew it too, so he's the only one I can suspect at the moment.

Next. Hika's kill was not a random kill too. It was a try to kill THE SECOND cop (or doctor, but I think it was 2nd cop juding by Hika's post's tone). Basically, the mafia secures themselves in case of a 2-cop scenario. Why I know that?

Hika wrote:

I was hoping for night. Darn.

POST HERE
Also Kanye's response to this is kind of odd.

Not going to vote anyone yet, it'd only cause more and more WIFOMs. Waiting for some discussion.

Meh, I think one of the people on the whole Raging Bull wagon was definitely scum. I mean come on you all were voting him for no reason whatsoever

Kanye West wrote:

Meh, I think one of the people on the whole Raging Bull wagon was definitely scum. I mean come on you all were voting him for no reason whatsoever

I've changed my vote from Lybydose, with the reason I wrote in previous post, to Raging Bull not to lynch a possible PR. Then I didn't change it because I felt a little bit of suspicions coming from Lydydose + Raging Bull relations. It was enough to pick Raging Bull instead of Sync as there was simply no reason to vote Sync.

If Those is scum, then Fartownik is town.

Lybydose could not claim because of the setup maybe there is 2 cop. His confident perhaps from his guilty result.
(I feel bad now protecting fake-claim scum damn...)

fartownik wrote:

But I knew Lincolm knew it too, so he's the only one I can suspect at the moment.

I never thought someone role. Don't tell anyone how do you know it. I don't want to know also. About Hika, I agree a lot. If you suspect me, you should use your vote.

Kanye West wrote:

Meh, I think one of the people on the whole Raging Bull wagon was definitely scum. I mean come on you all were voting him for no reason whatsoever

If you wanted to vote Sync in that time, I would vote him also. I could not lynch claimed cop in that time. Why you don't say the same things to BRBP's lynch? It is obviously no mafia will claim mafia also. They voted because his claim, which I think it was policy lynch.

Will take a look whole player again. Now I'm paranoid with NoHitter and Tsukasa.

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?

I voted RB because of his D1 actions wherein he wanted cop to investigate BRBP then voting him after that.

I think fartownik is town. Call it WIFOM, but Ockam's Razor says that those would not make an Inno claim on a scumbuddy when he knows he's going to get outed. That's why I'm inclined to think that fartownik is town based on that.

I think those in the those wagon in Day 2 are likely town. The D3 wagon IMO is easy for scum to get in since those was doomed. Although Meatstick leading the wagon on D3 gives me a town read as well.

Kind of wary of Nyquill for hammering and ending the day so early.

Lincolm is town.
Tsukasa is town.
fartownik is town.
Kanye West is town.
Meatstick is town.

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?

I voted RB because of his D1 actions wherein he wanted cop to investigate BRBP then voting him after that.

I think fartownik is town. Call it WIFOM, but Ockam's Razor says that those would not make an Inno claim on a scumbuddy when he knows he's going to get outed. That's why I'm inclined to think that fartownik is town based on that.

I think those in the those wagon in Day 2 are likely town. The D3 wagon IMO is easy for scum to get in since those was doomed. Although Meatstick leading the wagon on D3 gives me a town read as well.

Kind of wary of Nyquill for hammering and ending the day so early.

Lincolm is town.
Tsukasa is town.
fartownik is town.
Kanye West is town.
Meatstick is town.

Explain why you think Lincolm, Tsukasa, Kanye and Meatstick are town please.

Also I wouldn't vote Nyquill yet. In the D1, those actually votes him directly, without much reasoning. I highly doubt his tactics go that deep and I think it was a first try to bandwagon a townie. I'd focus on Sync instead. those's last post in D3, he votes Sync. Votes him a couple of minutes before end of the day, why not earlier? His vote basically means nothing because RB has the same amount of votes, but reaches it first so is lynched. This might've been a risky tactic, but quite effective one. Also as Kanye said before, Sync is usually aggressive, now I doubt he doesn't post much just because of the inactivity.

About my paranoid...

Tsukasa posted this post. I thought he wanted to save Those after lynch fartownik. Probably not...
NoHitter posted this post. If someone like Lybydose chimed in first, this fake-claim totally failure. Seems coincidence just happened...

fartownik wrote:

Also I wouldn't vote Nyquill yet. In the D1, those actually votes him directly, without much reasoning. I highly doubt his tactics go that deep and I think it was a first try to bandwagon a townie. I'd focus on Sync instead. those's last post in D3, he votes Sync. Votes him a couple of minutes before end of the day, why not earlier? His vote basically means nothing because RB has the same amount of votes, but reaches it first so is lynched. This might've been a risky tactic, but quite effective one. Also as Kanye said before, Sync is usually aggressive, now I doubt he doesn't post much just because of the inactivity.

Can't tell about Nyquill. Start of the day, bus can be done, can be a start of bandwagon also, but usually vote changed. Can't tell about Sync also. That isn't risky one if he knew it almost deadline and you didn't want to move your vote. For me, that vote to avoid RB's wagon.

Lincolm wrote:

About my paranoid...

Tsukasa posted this post. I thought he wanted to save Those after lynch fartownik. Probably not...
NoHitter posted this post. If someone like Lybydose chimed in first, this fake-claim totally failure. Seems coincidence just happened...

I thought the exact same thing, so maybe there's something in it.

Vote: NoHitter

Don't ask why yet.

But I will tell you this is guy

P-edit: *gut

No one's really gonna follow if you don't explain it.

I said don't ask yet :/

I'm still working things out. Plus a strong gut feeling

Oh...

Mod: Prod on JInxyjem please

I knew someone was missing...

Tsukasa wrote:

Oh...

Mod: Prod on JInxyjem please

I knew someone was missing...

Indeed, supporting prod.

Yeah give me some time to read this, homework and other stuff

and more stuff

I'm going to underline those when I mean those, the player because ugh

I agree with farto and NH that farto is probably not scum with those. If they were, it means those tried to fake cop AND fake result, then he'll obviously get killed too if farto was voted off and flipped scum, which was a tactic that Tsukasa was considering, though it was flawed.

I don't know if mafia hit lyby because they considered him a threat and got lucky, or figured out he was cop, but either way I don't think it really matters.

Lincolm wrote:

About my paranoid...

Tsukasa posted this post. I thought he wanted to save Those after lynch fartownik. Probably not...
NoHitter posted this post. If someone like Lybydose chimed in first, this fake-claim totally failure. Seems coincidence just happened...

Thanks for pointing these out, Tsukasa does seem to be a little suspicious in trying to get people to support a flawed tactic. One can argue it was too obvious to be a set-up since lyby broke it next post and was a mistake on Tsukasa's side, but WIFOM and shit idk

I don't really find anything in NH's post suspicious, just common response to a PR claimer.

Waiting on Tsukasa's "explanation", which hopefully doesn't go back to "gut"


Also where the honking hell is sync /slightlyhypocritical

those wrote:

Vote: Sync

Here's to saving Raging Bull; more thought process > no thought process.

those posted this at the end of D2. On one hand, this might prove that Sync, despite disappearing and being really off-meta, may be town.

However, those posted this 8 mins before dkun ended the day, and 18 mins before dkun's real call to end the day (24h after his previous post). If he had gone through the tally and knew that his vote won't change the RB lynch, he might have done it to make Sync look town if he got lynched himself (which he did on D3).

JInxyjem wrote:

However, those posted this 8 mins before dkun ended the day, and 18 mins before dkun's real call to end the day (24h after his previous post). If he had gone through the tally and knew that his vote won't change the RB lynch, he might have done it to make Sync look town if he got lynched himself (which he did on D3).

Already said this in my previous post. When I think about it now, we can't really know. If this situation didn't happen we'd be probably at the same point in the game, making the exact same decision about Sync so it doesn't really matter now. Unless Sync posts anything.

For now, Tsukasa seems like the main suspect, but ofc I'm waiting for NH's explanations too.

Tsukasa: Leading the wagon against those D2.
Kanye: Being in the those wagon D2.
Meatstick: Initiating the wagon on those D3.

Lincolm: I'm not one to rely on gut normally, but yeah... gut reading.

@mod: prod Sync again. He should've been replaced like 2 days ago already.

I'm gonna check all the remaining players and see their interactions with those. Back in some time.

K, back. After research I can confirm Tsukasa and Lincolm as town. Still a little unsure, but probably town too would be Sync (if Kanye is scum) and Nyquill.
Totally unsure about NoHitter and JInxyjem. Two suspects from me are now Meatstick and Kanye West.

@NoHitter, Initiating the wagon on those D3 by Meatstick has absolutely no meaning. Everyone would vote him anyways, it was an absolutely obvious vote. It even feels a bit contrary to me.

Meatstick is acting like a 'lost sheep' all the game. "Don't know what's this, don't know how this works etc." He seems too shy, but yet kinda active. Like Tsukasa would say it, "gut feeling".

Kanye West - there's a lot of arguments that can cause a vote from me on him. But there's also one that kinda negates them all, the one that NoHitter pointed out. The only explanation from me on it would be that he was simply playing until those's fakeclaim (which was planned back in the beginning of the D2). Arguments from me:

1. Quote from beginning of D2

Lybydose: "vote those"
Kanye West: "why"
Lybydose: "he didn't magically stop being scum overnight
so I voted him again"

Kanye (and the mafia) instantly suspects Lyby a cop. Mafia is looking especially for PRs, analyzing everyone under every possible angle. If he's mafia then he must've thought about it.
This was the point where mafia decided a nightkill.
2. Kanye watching BRBP bandwagoned. Not voting for him, not protecting him, basically WATCHING A MISLYNCH. Just as Lincolm said before. This was a scumslip.
3.

imo if those flips town i think lybydose will be more suspicious than farto"

, a wide thought, but an early prepare to take off cop?
After asked by Tsukasa why Lyby, he comes with a half-ass excuce: "because he pushes farto+those too much".
He doesn't answer next Tsukasa questions.
4. Also after this, the situation with Hika occurs.

Hika: "I was hoping for night. Darn.
Kanye: "why? because you're scum and want to kill another innocent townie at night? makes sense to me."
Hika: ";)"

Kanye suspects second cop. This decides the N3 nightkill.
5. Kanye is pushing Sync really much whole time. Especially suspcious at the end of D2, when almost bandwagoning him with those. Might be a WIFOM, but it's more possible than Sync being scum.

Please, discuss. We need to vote someone.

NoHitter wrote:

We have to unvote those.
He's essentially claiming cop.
There's a chance he's lying, but I would rather not lynch a possible PR.

Unvote

@those: So you investigated fartownik last night?

Vote: Raging Bull

This really gave me super scum vibes.
How convenient is it that NH said that he was claiming cop?
A town who doesn't know if those is a cop would seriously want some hard evidence if those was really cop.
Esp. That Those was never directly claiming cop. As far as I know... A town would go "What do you mean, those?"
But no... He wrote those of as cop without really something in it.
He was setting up those to be a fake cop and making him live.

Cut this down to the essentials

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?

I'm guessing if those wasn't lynched in about 2 hours or something... NH would have said "There could be 2 cops."
Meaning he'd want those to be innocent until the end of the day.

Add the fact that those was a newbie (No offense bro), He wouldn't probably come up with that plan.
There's some pro there coaching him on what to do.
Plus scum has daychat (dkun says so)

NoHitter wrote:

I think fartownik is town. Call it WIFOM, but Ockam's Razor says that those would not make an Inno claim on a scumbuddy when he knows he's going to get outed. That's why I'm inclined to think that fartownik is town based on that.

This WIFOM makes me think as well.

Is fart really a town? Is those setting fart to be innocent?
This actually lessens my suspicion on fart but not enough to call him town

fartownik:
Your case on Kanye does kind of make sense, but the fact that Kanye was fourth on the those wagon bothers me. Usually scum don't bus their teammates until its really hopeless for them. At L-3, there was still a chance to turn the vote around, but he voted anyway.

Tsukasa wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

We have to unvote those.
He's essentially claiming cop.
There's a chance he's lying, but I would rather not lynch a possible PR.

Unvote

@those: So you investigated fartownik last night?

Vote: Raging Bull

This really gave me super scum vibes.
How convenient is it that NH said that he was claiming cop?
A town who doesn't know if those is a cop would seriously want some hard evidence if those was really cop.
Esp. That Those was never directly claiming cop. As far as I know... A town would go "What do you mean, those?"
But no... He wrote those of as cop without really something in it.
He was setting up those to be a fake cop and making him live.

Cut this down to the essentials

What do you mean? those's post saying that he "guaranteed that fartownik was town" basically made it kind of obvious that he was claiming cop.

Tsukasa wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?

I'm guessing if those wasn't lynched in about 2 hours or something... NH would have said "There could be 2 cops."
Meaning he'd want those to be innocent until the end of the day.

Add the fact that those was a newbie (No offense bro), He wouldn't probably come up with that plan.
There's some pro there coaching him on what to do.
Plus scum has daychat (dkun says so)

I really don't see the point in this statement except for scumpainting.

Mod: Prod Kanye, Sync, Nyquill, Meatsick. Damn it.

It's really annoying to have such discussion when only half of the players are active in it.

I gave my reasons why i didn't vote BRBP, i really thought hika was scum and i had no idea lybydose was cop. and what questions did i not answer? also how can you possibly arrive to the conclusion that someone is a cop just judging from "herp derp night pls"? 3deep5me

and I still stand by the fact that sync was a better potential lynch than raging bull. at least RB was trying to contribute, meanwhile sync wasn't doing shit and was off-meta. plus now we know that those was scum and voted sync right before day end, knowing his vote wouldn't change a RB lynch. imo if he doesn't say anything and/or get replaced, he's probably the best lynch.

also don't count out meatstick for scum. it's possible he knew those was a goner and instigated the vote to look safer.

Kanye West wrote:

I gave my reasons why i didn't vote BRBP, i really thought hika was scum and i had no idea lybydose was cop. and what questions did i not answer? also how can you possibly arrive to the conclusion that someone is a cop just judging from "herp derp night pls"? 3deep5me

What bothered me was you remaining silent during BRBP wagon. Your reasons are fair, but I thought scum should've at least comment the situation while it lasted. How I judge a cop after "herp derp night pls"? If I was mafia and a townie would say something like this, while I have no suspects as PR to nightkill, I'd think Hika is a cop. Hika died so I know I'm right. Also how can you judge scum by this? I thought you were actually joking about it, not being serious.

"What questions did i not answer?"

Tsukasa wrote:

And why lyby over me?

I've been saying those - fart as well.

Why lyby in particular?

Page 16, D2.

I've said all i feel i need to say

the game's over if we lynch scum tonight and the doctor remains anonymous.

And my personal opinion is that fartownik is scum #2. #3 is a gut feeling between tsukasa or nyquill.

Meatstick wrote:

I've said all i feel i need to say

the game's over if we lynch scum tonight and the doctor remains anonymous.

And my personal opinion is that fartownik is scum #2. #3 is a gut feeling between tsukasa or nyquill.

Okay then, explain further your point of view. No one is gonna follow you if you simply say "vote this guy", especially when people think differently.

Okay, after some thinking I decide my vote. 3 severe mafia suspects right now: NoHitter, Meatstick and Kanye West. Sync is out of my suspicions from now, I'm not gonna vote someone that has posted only once in the entire game and should've been prodded back in day 2. Tsukasa and Lincolm are town. JInxyjem still counting as the potential scum, but I'm gonna focus on the alarmable suspects. Nyquill is not active enough to judge anything else than a 'more like a townie'. The day can't pass without a try to kill mafia because we won't judge anything by the nightkill either.

Vote: NoHitter
I can confirm Tsukasa's suspicions. If I'm not alone with doubts in someone then I should vote him. A discussion would be nice anyways.

NH --> Kanye --> Sync --> Meat/Nyq

I replied to your case against me Tsukasa.
Can you explain why you're still suspicious?

i don't even care about this game or osu anymore, holy fucking shit promote all mats to bat?


vote: nohitter

NoHitter wrote:

I replied to your case against me Tsukasa.
Can you explain why you're still suspicious?

With that weak excuse?

Claim: Cop
I have no choice but to claim since I'm on the lynching block and there's only one day left.
I crumbed my results.

N1: Investigated Sakura got Town result.

NoHitter wrote:

Well let's review yesterday. My reads from yesterday made me think that Sakura was scum for that bandwagon vote on brbp with a "you're getting more suspicious now" reason.
I have to agree withTsukasa here; her being NK'd doesn't seem to make sense unless it was scum trying to kill off possible power roles.
Noting other people on the brbp bandwagon yesterday: Only three people explained their votes.

Sakura INNO

N2: I investigated those and got Mafia result. Partly the reason why I accepted those's claim was because I could verify him anyway which is what I did.
I couldn't crumb anything D2 because the day started and ended while I was asleep.

N3: Investigated Lincolm got Town result. This was why I pointed out Lincolm was town in my earlier read.

NoHitter wrote:

Lincolm: I'm not one to rely on gut normally, but yeah... gut reading.

Lincolm ino -> inno


With all of my results and reads, I think that there scum is most likely among Sync or JInxyjem. (or they could be both scum)
Who I think is scum from top to bottom:
Sync = JInxyjem
Nyquill (since those did vote him D1) = Meatstick (started d2 bw on those) = Kanye (town read, but kind of doubting due to farto's case)
fartownik
Tsukasa
Lincolm (result)

Vote: Sync

Unvote
Vote: Sync
I believe you only because of those "INNO" marks. Rest could've been easily made up (the marks could've been made up too, but I doubt they are). Second time in this game a bandwagoner claims cop. If he flips mafia then I fucking suck at this.

Sorry, I need to open my old English book again.

Vote : Sync...

Yeah, coincidence sometimes happen.

By PoE, Sync and Nyquill... I hope I'm right... Other side, WIFOM for mafias for a day...

Ah god not another cop claim...

And if people are gonna breadcrumb. At least make it obvious enough to be a breadcrumb, Instead of doing it like that.

Vote:Sync

Fine... I'll give you 1 more day.