Oh, right. But if it's not true then he will die because there's no scenario with a cop and no doctor.Raging Bull wrote:
If what those said is true he can check someone tonight and have a doctor protect him.
Scum also (fake) hunting scum which everyone who scum hunting isn't guaranteed as town . When you said logical read, it can happen someone will stop that and not lynching your read. In other side, you can take a look at the wagon why people still vote him (fuck my slot again). Discussion can be done by anything, not only by vote and wagon. It also town job to not waste lynch.Lybydose wrote:
It's not the town's job to actively defend people that are probably town (except possibly information roles), rather, they should be actively hunting people that are scum. Do you honestly believe that if I showed up and said "I don't think he's town" that everyone would just be all like "oh, well in that case I'll just unvote"? What would that even accomplish? With absolutely nothing to go on day 1, letting a bandwagon like that sit around is going to give more interesting information that just randomly voting, and I didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to end the day so early.
Errrr... Kanye and Lybydose already answered it?fartownik wrote:
Also this is quite good question. It's funny how Kanye and Lybydose didn't comment it at all, avoiding the discussion and not taking the sides.
Also yes please, explain your reason further on my side.
There is another scenario. I will not tell it because let to many WIFOMs to both alignment. By the way, post something else please. Read or whatever.Raging Bull wrote:
Well the thing is that the doctor has to protect him and the doctor cannot protect him every night. So most likely he will die in the third night. So we have to see who is most scummy and get those to scan them.
Lincolm wrote:
OK, if Lybydose, Hika, and Kanye West aren't coming until midnight my time (I send the prod by PM) (+7 GMT), I will vote Raging Bull. Just hoping that Those not get lynched because bigger wagon.
Sorry for dopost.
If I'm town then why would he want to vote me.Tsukasa wrote:
Those:
Elaborate on how you "Can't vote fart"
Also he doesn't vote you YET. He will vote you if Lyby, Hika and Kanye don't login until his midnight time. He simply prefers those to survive instead of you (this sounds mean, but I didn't mean to lol).Raging Bull wrote:
No, in the quote, he votes me. Jesus my english is horrible.
Yes well I hope the mafia wouldn't think it that thorough. Hopefully a 2/3 of them would be new players.
Well, I doubt he flips scum. If he does then I will be totally mindfucked of how genius that action was since it'd basically give a win to mafia.Tsukasa wrote:
Bull: I think he means that "he will vote for you". Or something. IDK. But He votes kanye
Fart: There's WIFOM there as well. Either he's cop who investigated you. Or He's scum not wanting to vote his buddy.
So basically If those is actually cop then both of you are town.
If one of you flips scum then it's VERY LIKELY that the other is scum as well
As you said, people would think I'm scum if those is too. Even I would think that if I was one of them. But what if I wasn't? People would vote me anyways killing another townie. That'd give a huge advance to mafia, wouldn't it.Tsukasa wrote:
Give a win to mafia? Huh?
I thought of that too. I think as long as we are able to get 1 mafia for every 3 or less townie killed, we have the voting advantage. And we do haev the doctor advantage that there might be one night there will be no NK. (If those really is a cop)Tsukasa wrote:
Well with 1 scum down and a handful of town left.
We're not in LyLo or MyLo so There's no real threat
And it decreases the suspect pool. It may be a disadvantage to lose some town but there's still an advantage.
The only bad thing is that the most townie people get NK'd by scum. But by NK we can pretty much guess who scum are
Also a question to Lincolm - why vote Raging Bull if you can vote Lybydose?Lincolm wrote:
OK, if Lybydose, Hika, and Kanye West aren't coming until midnight my time (I send the prod by PM) (+7 GMT), I will vote Raging Bull. Just hoping that Those not get lynched because bigger wagon.
Sorry for dopost.
@Tsukasa, your vote makes me even more suspicious about you. Why would you even pick me when the chance I'm town is VERY high?Lincolm wrote:
another question, Kanye West, Lybydose, and Those, why you did not defend BRBP if you thought he was town?
No it isn't.Tsukasa wrote:
Bull: He's voting kanye. (which is quite a bad vote IMO)
I said I will, but not now.Raging Bull wrote:
No, in the quote, he votes me.
No need WIFOM. I don't want to tell the scenarios, so scums do not give town WIFOM also. I think NoHitter smart enough to realize this.Tsukasa wrote:
Bull: I think he means that "he will vote for you". Or something. IDK. But He votes kanye
Fart: There's WIFOM there as well. Either he's cop who investigated you. Or He's scum not wanting to vote his buddy.
So basically If those is actually cop then both of you are town.
If one of you flips scum then it's VERY LIKELY that the other is scum as well
Sorry, can't answer it until Kanye answer my question. If he knows the reason, he can make up his reason. Same reason to my first question why I did that.fartownik wrote:
Also a question to Lincolm - why vote Raging Bull if you can vote Lybydose?Lincolm wrote:
OK, if Lybydose, Hika, and Kanye West aren't coming until midnight my time (I send the prod by PM) (+7 GMT), I will vote Raging Bull. Just hoping that Those not get lynched because bigger wagon.
Sorry for dopost.
Those and Fart's lynch is dumbest idea in this day. Those claimed cop, so no. Fart is his result, so no also.Tsukasa wrote:
Ya guys up for a shot-in-the-dark gamble lynch?
Okay, this is stupid. Sorry. No WIFOM at all. If Those is cop, scum will kill him. No matter at N3 or N4. (maybe doc do not protect him at N2 and scum killed someone different, who knows? but safe play better)Lincolm wrote:
No need WIFOM. I don't want to tell the scenarios, so scums do not give town WIFOM also. I think NoHitter smart enough to realize this.
Not necessarily. All the mafia know who the town are, so they can fake claim cop all day and just point out town to look "legitimate".Tsukasa wrote:
Oh I almost forgot
If fart flips town. Then those may be confirmed as cop.
P-edit: And we don't have any way to confirm those's claim. So this is probably a good lynch.
Random vote?Kanye West wrote:
Remind me again why people are voting for raging bull?
IMO he's more likely a scum than Raging Bull, and I've already lost most suspicions on Lyby.Lincolm wrote:
@Fartownik : What is your case in Nyquill?
Sorry for dopost.
Well, I like the reason. I know that you think he is more likely scum in your point of view.fartownik wrote:
IMO he's more likely a scum than Raging Bull, and I've already lost most suspicions on Lyby.
Now you persuade to keep vote in Those. Why not earlier... God damnit.Lybydose wrote:
Because I don't believe his claim for even a second.
For starters, he didn't really even claim cop, he just "kind of" claimed it. That's a bit weird. Second, he didn't claim before the extension. He posted an hour and a half before dkun extended the day, which was also before we even knew if dkun WOULD extend the day. I imagine a real cop at that point would have claimed instead of leaving it up to chance that the day may not be extended. You could say the same about mafia, but remember that they have daychat - they may have been busy discussing the action.
This is respond for Raging Bull.Lincolm wrote:
Nothing. Saving PR. Sorry about that.
All I did was agree with Lyby. I still feel like Lyby can be scum and fully lead us to lynch the wrong person if needed. Although if those is lynched in D3 is mafia, then I would say lyby is 100% town. Of course don't quote me on that since I'm not that good at reading.fartownik wrote:
Now either Lybydose is protecting scumbuddy (Raging Bull) by persuading us to vote those (pretty succesfully it seems) or those really is scum. I still believe it'd be safer if we pick to keep those alive for the night and if he doesn't die lynch him D3. The worst thing that could happen is more WIFOM and one dead townie along with a confirmed scum.
because I wanted a those lynch. I still want a those lynch. It's obvious a those lynch is not going to happen.fartownik wrote:
@Lybydose, now a question - why didn't you do this earlier but just now, when we decided to hit Raging Bull in the end?
Sync is normally a very aggressive scum hunter, and even the one post he did make was kinda derpyLybydose wrote:
Kanye says Sync is out of his meta; does he normally post more often (more than once the entire game)?
POST HEREHika wrote:
I was hoping for night. Darn.
I've changed my vote from Lybydose, with the reason I wrote in previous post, to Raging Bull not to lynch a possible PR. Then I didn't change it because I felt a little bit of suspicions coming from Lydydose + Raging Bull relations. It was enough to pick Raging Bull instead of Sync as there was simply no reason to vote Sync.Kanye West wrote:
Meh, I think one of the people on the whole Raging Bull wagon was definitely scum. I mean come on you all were voting him for no reason whatsoever
I never thought someone role. Don't tell anyone how do you know it. I don't want to know also. About Hika, I agree a lot. If you suspect me, you should use your vote.fartownik wrote:
But I knew Lincolm knew it too, so he's the only one I can suspect at the moment.
If you wanted to vote Sync in that time, I would vote him also. I could not lynch claimed cop in that time. Why you don't say the same things to BRBP's lynch? It is obviously no mafia will claim mafia also. They voted because his claim, which I think it was policy lynch.Kanye West wrote:
Meh, I think one of the people on the whole Raging Bull wagon was definitely scum. I mean come on you all were voting him for no reason whatsoever
Explain why you think Lincolm, Tsukasa, Kanye and Meatstick are town please.NoHitter wrote:
What the hell guys? I go to sleep at 4am, wake up at 9am to find out a day passed?
I voted RB because of his D1 actions wherein he wanted cop to investigate BRBP then voting him after that.
I think fartownik is town. Call it WIFOM, but Ockam's Razor says that those would not make an Inno claim on a scumbuddy when he knows he's going to get outed. That's why I'm inclined to think that fartownik is town based on that.
I think those in the those wagon in Day 2 are likely town. The D3 wagon IMO is easy for scum to get in since those was doomed. Although Meatstick leading the wagon on D3 gives me a town read as well.
Kind of wary of Nyquill for hammering and ending the day so early.
Lincolm is town.
Tsukasa is town.
fartownik is town.
Kanye West is town.
Meatstick is town.
Can't tell about Nyquill. Start of the day, bus can be done, can be a start of bandwagon also, but usually vote changed. Can't tell about Sync also. That isn't risky one if he knew it almost deadline and you didn't want to move your vote. For me, that vote to avoid RB's wagon.fartownik wrote:
Also I wouldn't vote Nyquill yet. In the D1, those actually votes him directly, without much reasoning. I highly doubt his tactics go that deep and I think it was a first try to bandwagon a townie. I'd focus on Sync instead. those's last post in D3, he votes Sync. Votes him a couple of minutes before end of the day, why not earlier? His vote basically means nothing because RB has the same amount of votes, but reaches it first so is lynched. This might've been a risky tactic, but quite effective one. Also as Kanye said before, Sync is usually aggressive, now I doubt he doesn't post much just because of the inactivity.
I thought the exact same thing, so maybe there's something in it.Lincolm wrote:
About my paranoid...
Tsukasa posted this post. I thought he wanted to save Those after lynch fartownik. Probably not...
NoHitter posted this post. If someone like Lybydose chimed in first, this fake-claim totally failure. Seems coincidence just happened...
Indeed, supporting prod.Tsukasa wrote:
Oh...
Mod: Prod on JInxyjem please
I knew someone was missing...
Thanks for pointing these out, Tsukasa does seem to be a little suspicious in trying to get people to support a flawed tactic. One can argue it was too obvious to be a set-up since lyby broke it next post and was a mistake on Tsukasa's side, but WIFOM and shit idkLincolm wrote:
About my paranoid...
Tsukasa posted this post. I thought he wanted to save Those after lynch fartownik. Probably not...
NoHitter posted this post. If someone like Lybydose chimed in first, this fake-claim totally failure. Seems coincidence just happened...